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7041  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is not supported in some countries? on: January 30, 2017, 11:14:34 AM
Recently in my Country (Nigeria) Our Federal Govt made a move to stop the use of bitcoin by us, The citizens. This move was inspired by the fact that a lot of Ponzi schemes Owners and operators have found Bitcoin features such Easy and fast money transfer as an ideal tool to steal money. Bitcoin is feature-rich and very much ideal for every country's economy but It can also aid fraudsters. I believe That's another reason why Most countries decides against allowing the usage of  bitcoin.

I wasn't aware of Nigeria having actually banned Bitcoin usage? As far as I have been hearing and reading, they published notes that are solely meant as warning to make people aware of the high risk that crypto currencies and connected projects carry with them. The warning came after MMM has stated that it would accept payments in form of Bitcoin. It's just an informative measure that is solely meant as making people aware of ponzis operating in Nigeria, where OneCoin is also one of. I can't find anything pointing towards the Nigerian government having banned the use of Bitcoin.
7042  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Stolen Bitfinex Coins on the Move on: January 30, 2017, 10:45:10 AM
It is more about losing the traceability of the stolen coins (if we assume that they were really stolen). It doesn't matter into how many wallets you divide the coins, they can still be traced back to a wallet to which the coins allegedly had been moved by the hackers right after the hack. A simple program can easily do that, thus these coins will still remain tainted and can be frozen by any exchange or mixer that listens to or believes what Bitfinex is saying, i.e. that the coins from a certain wallet are theirs

Basically that. It really surprises me that there are still people not being able to understand that whatever you do with your coins, that everything can be traced quite easily. Another point of simple ignorace is the fact that they think these coins can be mixed, or be sent to an exchange where after that you convert these stolen coins into whatever altcoins. I can't think of any serious service or exchange that hasn't been notified about the addresses the stolen coins have been sitting in. It doesn't cost services and exchanges any effort to have a small bit of software constantly keeping an eye on these addresses, and pull the trigger as soon as they get a deposit from coins sitting in these wallets, or at some point have been sitting there.
7043  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More than 50,000 unconfirmed transactions on: January 30, 2017, 10:16:04 AM
Here we go again. Another transaction that was made over 3 hours ago and still no confirmations made. If this takes days then this is a first for me. I might tell Kwukduck I am sorry and that all hell will break loose in the forum soon.

It's funny how people like you keep complaining since the problem is obviously you not having included an appropriate fee according to the situation and byte weight of your transaction. Even with the recent spam attack I never had to wait very long to get my transactions confirmed. In 75% of the cases it got included in the next block, and if that didn't happen, then it got included in the block after that. Just adapt to the situation and don't be stingy when it comes to including proper fees. It will only work against you as it will make you wait and wait.
7044  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another Crash ? on: January 30, 2017, 10:02:20 AM
The price will fluctuate some anyway and if there is any big stock market drop, that will also have an affect. Trump will probably affect the price some but we don't really know how much or in which direction.

At this point the stock market has no proven connection to the Bitcoin market. Institutional traders will rather pull out of stocks and just sit back and look how the market is doing, than to dive into Bitcoin with the result that the Bitcoin price goes up. If they plan to temporarily stall their money elsewhere, then there are other options with a whole lot less risk these traders can go to. So far the current price has been subject solely to Chinese traders that were enjoying their no fee platform. Interesting is how the price will behave in the coming months now it will turn out to be a costly practice to pump and dump the price.
7045  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Domain] Litecoins.me on: January 30, 2017, 09:50:49 AM
Bump.
7046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is everything so silent these days around here? on: January 29, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
It's a combination of the sanctions put in place by the PBOC and the Chinese new year. Don't forget that western exchanges mostly follow what Chinese exchanges are doing. So if the markets in China aren't moving, western exchanges won't move either. I think it's safe to say that the current stability is quite a nice happening after all the volatility that we have been experiencing lately. I am sure that the volatility addicts are bored to death right now. Cheesy

Everyone's afraid it's turning out to be another 2014. I.E., btc price goes up a bit or seems to be steady, then it drop 20+, rinse and repeat. You should be afraid, very afraid. There's a strong potential it will lose 80% of its value; there's a weak potential it will go to 1200 this year. I guess, no risk, no reward.

Still trying to convince rookies into believing your theory? From your last 6 posts, 4 posts are about how you think it's looking like 2014 again.
7047  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Really The Future Of Money? on: January 29, 2017, 12:55:05 PM
but the government is still frightened to admit the existence of bitcoin. bitcoin today still not freely circulating in many countries.

What exactly do you mean by that? Bitcoin as it is, aside from governments putting whatever ridiculous sanctions in place, can be used everywhere at any time. In some cases financial institutions and other related businesses aren't allowed to work with Bitcoin in whatever form, but that doesn't affect you as regular Bitcoin user. It's only that you need to be more creative when it comes to acquiring Bitcoins if you live in a country where businesses aren't allowed to deal with Bitcoin and crypto in general. You can either offer services here on this forum, participate in signature campaigns, look for people selling Bitcoin face to face, etc. No matter what sanctions businesses in certain countries are subject to, there are enough ways to collect yourself some coins.
7048  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-01-25]Bitcoin trading in yuan drops as new transaction fees by exchanges on: January 29, 2017, 12:40:46 PM
Ok, well, who has seen this become reality? Bit-X has more 24H volume than BTCC, OKCoin and Huobi! It still amazes me how their volumes dropped from millions every day to just a few thousand right now. It's just unreal how low these exchanges have been sinking with their volumes. It was a big hoax it seems....

http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list

At this point the markets are fairly calm, so I am more interested in finding out how their volumes will be when the market gets active again. If these Chinese exchanges are still lagging behind, then it's obvious that we have been fooled even harder than we could imagine with their fake volumes. Poloniex is having a fairly calm day, and that exchange generated +15,000BTC in volumes last 24 hours. But let's not get too hard on them as the Chinese new year might play an important role as well. But one thing is sure, I like current stability a lot. I wouldn't mind seeing this stability last for a few more weeks.
7049  Economy / Economics / Re: What Will it Take For BTC to Reach $1000? on: January 29, 2017, 12:18:36 PM
I do not think you're going to go for 1,000$  right now, and there's a downward bend. In this direction, when too many people fall down, they will start buying again.

There may be a decline in February. But I do not think you're going to go down the level right now. If the level is as low as $ 1000, it's hard to predict, but at the end of the year it could go up to the right.



Downward bend? I am sure you are doing exactly what a lot other people are doing, and that's looking at small time frame charts. Open up up a 6 month chart, where you start looking at the price in August 2016, and draw a line to the levels where we are are sitting at right now. You'll see that we are going up in a nice and steady manner. Just don't put any value in looking at the short term peaks and dumps that you see. They will give you a wrong view of how the market has been performing.
7050  Economy / Economics / Re: What Will it Take For BTC to Reach $1000? on: January 28, 2017, 04:48:07 PM
I doubt it will reach this high. It will be just too much.
Hahah. Now we see such predictions were wrong, because bitcoin reached $1000 and I think nothing special happened which could help it do so (like it was the previous time as people say). It just means more people became aware of bitcoin and more people started believing in it. What will it take for btc to reach $2k is a question now.

At this point the question should be - What will it take to finally settle above the $1000 level, where after that the focus can be pointed at reaching $2000 somewhere in the coming years. Perhaps that the actions put to work by the PBOC could make the price go up in a much more sustainable manner, now creating massive pumps and dumps will turn out to be a costly move. Instead of blindly pumping and dumping done by whales, every move needs to be calculated precisely at this pint. If they make a wrong move, it may cost them significant amounts of money/coins. That's why I don't understand that some people see the actions put to work by the PBOC as a bad thing. It's the best thing that happened to Bitcoin in years.
7051  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-01-29] Bitfinex’s Hacked Bitcoins Are on the Move; 5% Recovery Bounty Off on: January 28, 2017, 04:21:59 PM
I think they are just trying to poke some interest back into their exchange. There is no point in really following those coins as they'll just be laundered in some way and never be traced back to whoever does cash it out. Unless the culprits surrender the coins, I don't think there is any point in following it anymore.

Damage is already done, so in that regard, there is nothing that they can do to brush up their public image. I am quite skeptic in this situation, but I am 100% supporting any initiative that may lead to people being compensated with coins, and not some worthless token-equity that people can't really do anything with. If these coins end up being "returned" to Bitfinex, then they must be used to compensate users that were subject to a 30% haircut on their balances, as that's the only justifiable action...
7052  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: January 28, 2017, 04:08:40 PM
bitcoin is better than the PayPal. Many user of PayPal complain and its hard to verify account PayPal. Bitcoin is  good transaction the fee is low and it easy to verify account you need email and phone number to verify it. The transaction fee of PayPal is high. So thumps up for the bitcoin ! 😇

I assume you're making use of an online wallet service that is asking these bits of information from you? If you just stick to PC clients such as Bitcoin Core, then there is nothing required from you information wise. If you're a business selling stuff for PayPal, then the fees are indeed steep. But the main benefit is the great level of acceptance that PayPal is enjoying. Especially when you consider that if you buy stuff with PayPal, that it's only the selling party that ends up paying the fee, and not the buyer. Plus the buyer enjoys their much loved buyer protection. If you look at it from that perspective, then there is no real point for these people to ditch PayPal any time soon.
7053  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me a secret: any way to earn 0.1 BTC per week? on: January 28, 2017, 03:44:19 PM
yes no doubt that these are the good ways of making bitcoin but i think one of the most important way of making bitcoin that you miss to mention here is trading alt coin. in all the above mentioned ways one can earn a limited amount of bitcoin, while bitcoin give you chance to make more than 0.1  bitcoin per day therefore i will always recommend you trading for making money.

Altcoin trading is more like gambling since there is no way for the average person to know what will happen, since the majority of the altcoins are only created to feed the operators (e.g. empty projects). If you look closely at people that are trading altcoins, or investing in altcoins, then it's clear they just hope for a pump to happen. In some cases repetitive patterns can book you easy profits, but that happens only once in awhile. You can't solely depend on these repetitive patterns unless you only trade when they show up. But that will make you an occasional trader. It's easy to speak for people, while in reality making profits whilst trading isn't so easy at all.
7054  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: January 28, 2017, 11:53:31 AM
Actually, in some EU countries, banks have decided to add Bitcoin as a property to sell and buy.

I am from Europe myself, and I can't recall hving seen any article or bank publishing that sort of news. Can you link me to an article, or name up these banks in question? Because I find it highly unlikely at this point.

I believe banks will try to centralize Bitcoin. However, they can never do this job since Bitcoin is anonymous. Bitcoin will continue to develop and the number of Bitcoin users keep increasing thanks to banks

Banks have no interest in centralizing Bitcoin since they aren't interested in Bitcoin at all. Only point of importance that they see in Bitcoin is the blockchain as technology. That's why they have been putting millions in developing their own version of the blockchain. If they at some point manage to develop a blockchain where they remain the central authority, and include all kinds of other features they see value in, then it will not be a problem at all to have some sort of digital token connected to fiat running at the same time. It gives people all the benefits that people have with Bitcoin right now, but then with the bank being the central authority.
7055  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: January 28, 2017, 11:04:12 AM
Yes bitcoin would overcome paypal as both are different form of money. Bitcoin is cryptocurrency but PayPal is just a payment gateway and to set up a working paypal account is really a boring work for noobs but bitcoin is such a simple which doesn't require any personal information and high transfer fees of paypal will discourage poor fellows like me.

You forget one simple and very important thing. For the average joe the volatility is probably one of the most important reasons to avoid Bitcoin. If you look at it from their mindset, then I can't really blame them. If you deposit $1000 into your PayPal account, then the next weeks/months you are guaranteed that you can buy things for the same amount of money. But with Bitcoin it's either it has gone up in value, or down. In case of the latter option, these people will obviously get less from their money since the value of their coins has dropped below the $1000 value they bought at. In order to buy the same, they have to add money. It's an inconvenience for these people. That's why in most cases people take PayPal's fees for granted as it offers them maximum security.
7056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does bitcoin price speculation make sense on: January 28, 2017, 10:27:28 AM
Speculation is not very healthy for bitcoin,
but it should be there, it creates nervous people, it creates bad decisions. Finance feels alive with speculation.

Without speculation, basically every market on the planet would become so boring, that investors will simply refrain from investing money there, refrain from investing money into infrastructure around whatever market, etc. Volatility attracts money, and indeed creates nervous people making bad decisions that lead to others making profit. Money always moves to stronger hands. Look at Bitcoin, without speculation, do you really think the price would have gone up this high? No chance. It's not for nothing that Bitcoin is being seen as a speculative investment tool for the most part. Infrastructure as in huge mining farms, exchanges, services, etc. It all drives on the price that may or may not boom at some point.
7057  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Stolen Bitfinex Coins on the Move on: January 28, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
It's really scary to know like a third of the coins were stolen but at least BIFINEX is not closing down and will compensate everyone so customers have not lost out.

Compensating people in form of worthless tokens that people can exchange to a certain amount of equity in the main company is not really a worthy compensation if you ask me. People simply want their cold hard coins back. This "comensation" is just set up to keep people their mouths shut for a good while.

It's funny though that they are offering a bounty even to the hacker lol. He should be rewarded for hacking? I am not so sure, but if he returned the dough that would be something.

It's indeed funny, but at the same time quite a desperate call as well. Especially if you consider that there might not have been a hack at all. But in case these coins are really stolen due to a hack, then a bounty could be a last resort option. If you don't try, you won't gain anything. But there is more to it than simply a reward. I am sure that they try to contact the "hacker(s)" in the hope that they make a mistake where they potentially can be traced one way or another. Nothing will be done without a reason. Thieves won't be rewarded just like that. Wink
7058  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How is trading *not* gambling? on: January 28, 2017, 09:26:48 AM
funny thing is that strategy does not work all the time, this mean that there is a certain % of loss which is not insignificant

trading is gambling simply because of this not insignificant % of loss, when someone say that you can be 55% + ev in the long term he is actually saying that he is gambling, no real difference

because there is also no guaranteed that the 55% as an example will stay there forever

Guaranteed profits don't exist, so yes, you can't expect to make a certain amount of profits every year. You'll make what you make, where at the end of the year you'll see how much profit you actually gained. Point is that if you know what you do, that you can create a profit buffer with the right trades that you make. This buffer will be sufficient enough to catch up occasional losses by trades gone wrong since you can't predict the market. I am of course referring to trading Bitcoin and not altcoins. Altcoins fit in a totally different category, which I personally believe is in fact very close to gambling.
7059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price climbing fast again on: January 27, 2017, 02:58:02 PM
it is possible that now because of Chinese market with fee, prices become even more stable. they can no longer make as many trades and their positions become more careful instead of being fast and loose with the orders because of zero fees. and also because of the lower volume from there people will panic less Smiley

Flash trading was the number 1 reason people were using these Chinese exchanges, and now all of the major exchanges have enabled fees for their trading platforms, where these flash traders are now put off-side. I quite often have seen how in a matter of seconds several +10,000BTC orders were dumped into a more than equal amount of CNY to catch up the dump and scoop up a slight profit percentage. If you look at profits of 0.1% per time, then it doesn't seem like much, but if you do that plenty of times every day, then do the math; 0.1% of 1BTC = 0.001BTC in profits and do that x a few thousand BTC (for the purpose of this example let's take 3000BTC) 3000 x 0.001BTC = 3BTC just from buying and selling into their own orders. It's a simple but more than effective/profitable manner of flash traders where they exploit the weakness of other traders their bots that aren't programmed well enough.
7060  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: January 27, 2017, 10:56:09 AM
1. The users who using it bitcoin has more users than paypal.

Wrong. PayPal as we speak has nearly 200,000,000 active registered users.

2. The transaction fee - Bitcoin has no fee when you sending money not like paypal every transact you need to pay fee.

Bitcoin can be sent without a fee, but that's not recommended since you'll either have to wait days before it gets confirmed, or it doesn't get confirmed at all. And when it comes to low value transactions without any fees, they have 0.01% chance of getting confirmed. In order to get your transaction confirmed within 2-3 blocks, at least 0.0002BTC in fees is required.

Other thing is that PayPal doesn't charge you with fees when it comes to sending money from your account balance or connected bank account. Fees apply when you're making use of credit/debit card. And of course fees must be paid by the receiving part when selling stuff.

3. You can easily buy goods using bitcoins.

Yup.

4. Fast transaction.

Yup, but as said before, confirmations are important here too.

5. You can earn it for free with hard working and skills.

If you work hard for it, how is then earning for free? You deliver something and get paid for it. Not what I consider to be free. Roll Eyes
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