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7081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: June 28, 2016, 11:52:47 PM
Hey guys i want to know what is your aim while gambling do you take it as way to get fun and excitement? Or your aiming to get more money and have a living for this thing?


Once of I had aim of becoming rich lol  Grin  but in a meantime I stopped dreaming about it, now it's all bit of fun and entertainment and excitement, it's just a hobby basically.

Lol thats what i aiming for but suddenly its impossible to reach in gambling Grin but really i just take gambling just for fun only just to get adrenaline rush and fun excitement when im get bored and doing nothing at home,
7082  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 28, 2016, 11:44:38 PM
The owners of https://hashocean.com are working on the website
Last update of database: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:49:55 GMT

Refund-hashocean.com is a scam (they are after your login details) Wait a day or two and see what happens.

I think they're gone!
Pretty sure that that is the only thing that they would do to do this
They also claim someone hacked their web address. That's fine, ut they have two of them!

They are totally gone  obviously there no coming back from them theyre video presenting,fb and twitter is gone thats why theirs no really hope for their comeback and that site listed is purely fraud dont log in your info their maybe its keylogger(who knows) or scam attemp and riding the scene so that they can scam again the victim of hashocean.
7083  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: XAPO Hot Wallet Service did turn into SCAM! BE AWARE ! on: June 28, 2016, 11:30:31 PM
Oh wait , why don't I feel sorry for people relying on third party to store their bitcoins ? Because they are not smart enough to not use desktop wallets where you and only you are in charge of your bitcoins. I hope lesson is learned and you never try online web wallets again. They can run anyday with your money. Start being smarter , learn a lot in the alternative clients section of this forum and you will see the advantages of desktop wallets.

Actually people using 3rd party wallet instead dekstop wallet is to make them easy to access
If you need your money asap but you are not in your dekstop how can you get in touch with them, so 3rd party wallet is the answer

But you could also drop the wallet qt on your phone like under android its vefry easy? So why should somebody use the third escrow in this case. It to be more fanacial in the BTC buisness and they can handle simply react from one day to another like they want. In this case im not gone use xapo again. I want my BTC bacK!

All you need to do now is contact their support send raining tickets so they can actually seen your problem and thats the reason why i dont really trust any web wallet for storing my. BTC because anytime they can close out our account if they find something malicious transaction happened and try to use blockchain its more safer than any wallet existing in web wallet industry.
7084  Economy / Services / Re: 2$ for easy job!!!(Hiring People) on: June 28, 2016, 10:22:39 PM
This thread is dead why bumping it while as we can see the date of last post is on march thats why i dont see any reason why to ask that this offer is available when its clearly a temporary task  and its done, its better to let this thread die and dont bump this one so those important thread will not be burried down.
7085  Economy / Gambling discussion / What is your aim in gambling???? on: June 28, 2016, 10:19:09 PM
Hey guys i want to know what is your aim while gambling do you take it as way to get fun and excitement? Or your aiming to get more money and have a living for this thing?

7086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: June 28, 2016, 10:15:58 PM
NO, gambling is than wasted time in my opinion, you do not have a real reason to gamble in my opinion.
I would only gamble for the profit you can make with gambling and if you are rich the fun is gone of that

You cannot really tell thats gonna happen since i know many rich people are still indulge in gambling and theyre losing big money for that program and yet they end up gambliNg for more its because theyre still rich and money is not problem for them since they dont have probblem in terms of money thats why they gamble for more and losing for more.
7087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: June 28, 2016, 10:09:22 PM
maybe you can stop after too much lost at the day or even without counting of what you have already lost . but i think you cannot force yourself to stop especially if you really addicted to it .

yes it is clear, after a person loses a lot of money they would stop. but if the situation when you win, it's a little difficult enough for you to know when to stop, because if you are greedy, you will end up with a loss.

I think even if were losing were still keep gambling as experience i end up gamble for more just to chase and catch my lose money and its end up ill lose more money in that situation, but if we really discipline our selves and set some wallet limitation,time limitation and self determination possibly we can control to stop anytime we want.
7088  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: June 28, 2016, 10:04:27 PM
Gambling should be considered the last option but you could choose to invest it in gambling websites which have giveaways running currently like luckybit and primedice while the rest can be just used for trading. That way, you can get to use your coins instead of merely holding them.
Yes but I think the way it is very risky and very difficult, and many people who can not understand the way. Perhaps most people know by collecting and holding bitcoin has included short-term investments.
I think investing now a days is made so easy that even a 10 year old kid who knows what he is doing can invest. Basically yeah you are right at one point that we the investors must understand that there is a edge and we are supposed to win not that we will always win.

But i think investing is more safer than gambling because you are not playing with your faith and a high chance for us to get profit due to house edge rather than if we play we might adjust some things and use different strats just to win in gambling and thats pretty nervious if you are the player wanting to win and end up losing.
7089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: June 28, 2016, 09:59:08 PM
And that's why gambling websites and real life casinos make so much money. If it was easy to give up gambling, no one would lose so much money.
yeah if you give up easily surely you will not lose too much money in gambling. if you're too ambitious to be rich from gambling
maybe you'll get lose a lot of money and big losers? better either give up or not to give up ? do you think ?
We all know friend its better to give up rather than keep gambling, but how to do that because once addicted trust me it becomes like a nightmare, you cannot live without it and you at the same time know you can not win from it.

Yeah because you can make your life shetty and messy addicted gamblers may do anything bad just to have money to gamble and mostlw of them have big debts anywhere thats why its worse since they really hook so much and they need an help to their love ones so it can be stop although its hard but all things are possible if we have perseverance to stop well we can do it With the help of supporting sorroundings.
7090  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: June 28, 2016, 02:55:57 PM
Price of the bitcoin is still high but if it will be around $400 it's still okay, price nowdays is around  $600 and  people talking about bitcoin's death, cmon...
I think reasonable if bitcoin down. because many users who sell their bitcoin? or the great players who deliberately make bitcoin prices down. because they've got a big profit?
Yeah the others sell their bitcoin that's why it's going down but  not means dead. It will backing up again but if you are for long term investor , you don't need to worry about volatility.just wait what will happen in near future.

Bitcoin going back up 580 was perfect time to buy back in now back upto 640 Cheesy
I was able to buy at $560 yesterday and I hope my decision was right in waiting for it to go below $600 before buying again. I think the crucial price support that was held is $550. Anything can happen so we must prepare ourselves for sudden pullbacks and surges. This is bitcoin, after all.
Yeah it was a good decisions of you to buy at $560 because I do not believe that the Bitcoin is going to get any lower the that.
I also do not believe that the Bitcoin is dead because I am still making money but people always ant to hate.
At my opinion it will go lower easily, i don't know why but i feel that bitcoin is gonna majorly drop after halving, it's something like a calm before the storm.

Theirs a big chance that price fall down might be happen if halving is done because the mindset of all people at that time is sell and only people will buy thats why price well go downwards well be happen hope not much down because we can be affected and our earnings will be lowered by this sad event if halving well be done.
7091  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Someone received a email from Hashocean about refund? on: June 28, 2016, 02:48:20 PM
Anyone else received this email hashocean today?

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Hello, unfortunately these days our website hashocean.com, was hacked. Hackers took our domain and we have no control over anything. For our stupidity, we do not have the backup of the database.

We will do the refund for you, but as we have not saved history, we will refund you your mining purchase under the following conditions.

"Take the following actions properly, we have more than 700,000 users, and if we are looking for 1 by 1, would take years."

To receive your purchases refund please visit: http://hashocean-refunds.com

I will risk 0.5, maybe i can get a refund of my 30 btc purchase.

lol do not try to risk another money for the refund maybe it is just an another scheme , and if that's for real i think they are giving your refund but just a little bit of your exact amount of money that you have invested .

Those mail are totally fake thats clearly scam attemp and i dont see any good signs that hashocean will comeback to pay their investors and if theyre really will then why they deleted all proofs about hashocean? And why theyre making false announcement that theyre been attack?  Well that really tells that theirs no turning baCk for them the escape plan for them has been cast thats why move on now guys we have no chance to see our depo their.
7092  Economy / Services / Re: Faucet website and Google Adsence on: June 28, 2016, 02:41:30 PM


Hello Everyone.

I have created a free website in www.wix.com which is somewhat related with bitcoin, so now i want to make my website as a faucet website, apart from that want to link with google adsence.


It that possible. MY website is not a gambling website, there is a small amount of information about bitcoin.


Please advice.

Does WIX even allow you to upload scripts? Last I checked (which was awhile ago, admittedly) they did not.

I think not also or i miss something in wix? But really if your planning to make faucet just make it more appealing because wix can be a big minus for people who wants to try fuacet because they will find it scam since your using free domain, thats why you need to make it more appealing to people so we can see better result for your plan if you really want to make a faucet sites.
7093  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: June 28, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
For me Price of Bitcoin is matter of course. If the price is stable or rising people  get more confident in Bitcoin and start using it it more, so more and more people get involved. If the price is falling, people get scared. So now Bitcoin is growing and it became more and more interesting for users. I even heard that it's gonna appear ATM that accepting Bitcoin and works with it like with any other currency.
That's how most of whales fool you. If you see price is dropping, you guys get panic and start selling and by that decision you're making the whales happy because they are buying your coins in low price and once they bought most of the coins in its low price, they will now start pumping the coin again and will sell again with high price. That's how they get profit with you.

Maybe thats manipulating strategy of those big holders to create small panic so they can buy to more lowered amount and earn more profit again, and thats the reason we should join to their flow theirs halving coming and can be a good sign for bitcoin price to go more up so we should not be panic for now just hold to see better result in near future.
7094  Economy / Economics / Re: Are electric cars bad for the oil industry? on: June 28, 2016, 02:30:56 PM
i think in the long term it will be a problem for the oil industry , because when electric cars will be more utilised from population , the selling of oil will be reduced and it will be bad for the oil industry and the price of oil will be reduced more and more .


Thats really awfull and can kill the oil industries economy surely many foreign people will lose their job knowing many of their workers are overseas person, and also it can affect in global trade economy because they can also earn money buy trading oil in the market.

One of my cousin and her team from Pakistan has launched an electric car there, i dont think so it will effect oil industry because mainly people cant afford electric car what i think!

It cannot really effect if there are only few of them using it for now but what about if all people will shift to use e-cars? It can be a boredom for them that cam lead to closedown their beloved oil company.
7095  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: June 28, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
I would do it if I have earned a lot of money from the bitcoin. if not, then I would do both the job at a time. I sure can regulate both conditions.

As of now it is hard to find a job that pays bitcoin which is consistent or will pay the amount that you are looking for. So having the two would always be better than losing one.
Having a two job is always better than one but it has also disadvantage because you cannot give your full focus on two things and sometimes it will not end to the best result and time will pass that you cannot master your passion.

Thats why we need time management for this to get better result,but really if we do it nicely without pressuring ourselves i can say we can get better result for this since where not wasting our time herenfor nothing, its all precious since we earn money in here as sideline thats why its really better to stay on job what we have now because it can bring us to eternity.
7096  Economy / Economics / Re: What if all those Fund houses dump all their Bitcoins? on: June 28, 2016, 02:12:52 PM
What is causing this price crash? Has the chinese dumped their coins?
We cannot determined yet because there is really no news that is something bad happen within the community, we don't know who is playing with the price, but one thing is certain, the price will increase nearing the halving this july.
I agree with you. Many hold bitcoin for now because of halving. I hope that it will rise again as expected in July.

Theirs no doubt that many people are still holding for now and still waiting for halving and i think the really big question there is what will happen to price of bitcoin if the hashocean owner sell all their coins? Possibilities it can make the bitcoin price down since they got a lot volume of btc in their pocket now, so thats why we need to be attaintive to monitor so we cannot be left behind on dumping stage of bitcoins price.
7097  Economy / Economics / Re: Now that prices are dropping, should I still hold my coins? on: June 28, 2016, 02:08:58 PM
Dont loose hope,just hold it  cause bitcoin is worth waiting for.
Bitcoin will not go below 600 $ next month ,cause it will surely goes up.

Nothing wrong in holding for next few days as halving is not too far now, and it would be bad decision to sell it now after holding it since long  time, halving will show us some best price of  bitcoin.

Although it create little panic selling last week it cannot really effect the price rise and look what have just happen today price is slowly retaining back his rythm to reach to its peak halving is nearly to come and that time we can really determine on what price of bitcoin will it stop, and i can say its still party time for us staker thats why its better to hold for  now to earn more in the future.
7098  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: June 28, 2016, 01:45:44 PM
Set goals for the amount you want to win or the amount you have to play with. If you double your money or whatever the goal is, stop right there. If you bust out with your buy-in, that is a good time to stop and play another day. If you chase your immediate losses, you could be a world of trouble real quick.

This is why it is a good idea to use a wallet and fill it up and only gamble using it. That way you control your spend. I can't see any other way to control the betting/gambling.

You can control it if you have really put some limitation when gambling, limit the money and dont exceed to your afford to lose budget by that we can really see good result and not to be hook up or been addicted to gambling in that way.
7099  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: To add insult to injury to all hashocean users... on: June 28, 2016, 01:25:09 PM
someone just uses situation for scam those naive people and they believe its real refund lol how stupid they are

They cannot fool the investors anymore and i dont think people will follow on what is saying in the note because its clearly scam theyre making no sense site and try to fool people again and thats very sad cause still many people are trying anything just to get money even if their doing it in bad way.
7100  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean disapeared and scammed 700,000 users ? ! on: June 28, 2016, 01:20:20 PM

Only required 100 petitions out of thousand of users ?

I doubt that owner of HashOcean will be caught, There have been many cloud mining in the past and none of the owners has been caught Tongue
FBI has more important thing to do than chasing Ponzi scheme Wink

I dont think the petition will be helpfull to chase hashocean owners and i dont remember ever since that their are hyip owners are been busted by fbi surely the hyip owners are using vpns or any location changer so they cannot be trace if someone trace them thats why all we need to do is move on now hashocean chapter is closed and thats hyip life.
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