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7101  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin price back to 9.5k$+ ? on: December 01, 2017, 12:05:39 PM
Im wondering why bitcoin price suddenly get back to 9.5k$? i was really feeling bad of it because why it need to dip when i need to withdraw some of my bitcoin Sad i dont have that much bitcoin , i only have worth 400$ bitcoin then when i woke up today ( i didnt check it for the last few days) what the! i almost lost 50$+ , i know that not much but for me its totally a big lost Sad now i withdraw some of my bitcoin and lost my 50$ , if youre going to ask me why i need to withdraw it because it will get high soon ( i know Sad  )  but i really need the money now Sad its was really like a very bad coincidence for me Sad .

~Im not  updated to bitcoin news for a the last few days thats why i think i didnt see that it was coming Sad.

We see some corrections in the last 24 hours or so and I think it has consolidated and moved towards the $10K again. Now, is the perfect time for you to withdraw you funds, or just wait till it officially it $10K again. LOL. $50, its nothing in crypto's, I think it did good for you because I feel that you are going to panic seeing the price going down in the last 24 hours.

I now think it might be a bad timing for me, but look at it this way, you are not the only one who have miss getting a big opportunity to earn. Maybe most of us also lost when we withdraw. Its part of the game. And remember the mantra "you should invest what you are willing to lose". I think you invest too much of your money here. You should also check at least once a day regarding the current price so that you can make a quick decision to sell.
7102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CRYPTO DOOMS DAY? on: November 30, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Someone is manipulating the market,few days back BTC bullrun i think investors put their money on that day
Yesterday BTC/USD + ALT/USD exchanges pumps,clear they converted the BTC to USD

Today all the coins are bleeding only 4/200 has price increase

is this the end of the crypto?


We have seen countless time that bitcoin and altcoin market bleeds. So I just this what you are seeing today is not a exception. I believed that there is a manipulation, not just today but in the past and it will still occur in the future. I see most of the top altcoins have already lost more than 20%, while bitcoin around 15%. So that's serious manipulations.

But not all of them though are thru manipulations, maybe half of it are cause by the panic investors as well. Someone made large sell orders, others saw it the wall, then they follow suit and then the fear of others making them sell as well. But again, bitcoin have shown that it can recover, think of what's happening right now in a bright side. Buy more bitcoin and altcoins because they are down right now.
7103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Dumping!! on: November 30, 2017, 02:50:06 PM
Why bitcoin price decreasing, now the price is $9,346.22 !! what is the causes of this dump ? Also all of alt coin dumped.

I even see it below $8K but it look likes its again recovering from the dump.  More than 15% so this is some sort of correction that we are seeing. But make no mistake about it, I'm sure that others will jump and buy bitcoins back with this kind of price because we don't want to missed the opportunity to accumulate more and hold on it.

I'm sure that the $10-$11K is too much a mental barrier for most traders not to cash out. Time to make some profits today and time to get back bitcoin at cheap price. I think at the end of the day, we are going to test $10K again and see how will it hold tomorrow. As always, its better to hold bitcoin now rather than just dumping it. Corrections are bound to happened anyways, its up to you how to react on this kind of situation.
7104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I have 12 Bitcoin. What should I do??? on: November 30, 2017, 02:18:03 PM
If I were you, I will just hold on it. Now is not the best time to dump some of your bitcoin. If you have plans to dump a couple, you should have done it when bitcoin tops $11K, now the price is dropping very fast at $9K. So you have no choice but to continue and hold and just watch your profit grow as it touches above $10K. If you have plans though to dump it, at least dump at above $10K.

And when you dump a few, you can invest to altcoins such as ETH. I can also speak for ETH because that's the only altcoin I have, I have dump most of may shitcoins and take home the profit.

It's not the time to sell bitcoins. The price goes down. May be reached 8600 soon. No need to worry. This is how the crypto-currency market develops. After correction, there will definitely be a takeoff

That's what I'm trying to explained. There has been a dumping, so continue to hold. And we all know what will happen next after this dumping. Bitcoin will again go up and even higher as its previous highs.
7105  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I stop Buying BTC? on: November 30, 2017, 11:14:56 AM
I think that BTC has a very high price now so for me it's ugly to buy now bitcoin. You should buy when its price has dropped and you have to stock Bitcoin in your wallet. Because it does not last will increase its price or even more double than its current price or its price will fall sharply because we all can not predict the selling price of bitcoin,

It dropped again to $9600-$9700 levels, looks like a good buying opportunity. It's ugly if you have bought it when the price is at the top around $11,000 but for me at this price, its already a discounted and everyone should get it. This is a healthy correction so that those who want to enter now can get it.

It could more than double your investment, as long as you can HODL on it and not sell short term. And even if we see some sharp decline, you don't have to worry and panic and sell your stash right now. Bitcoin now is for long term, if you want short term investment, its better if you would try altcoins.
7106  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy Entry on: November 30, 2017, 05:57:25 AM
$10,000 is here to stay. if you weren't sure before, you should be sure now that price took a dive and recovered fast. there is a lot of actions going on these days and also manipulation is at its all time high. but the market also has grown too big which you can no longer expect big drops too often. you can place some low bid orders in $9xxx range but don't expect them to be filled anytime soon. there is no more drop in near future. specially with NASDAQ announcing their support for bitcoin now!

It was a fast recovery indeed and the price is above $10000 levels still. Though is a minor correction, a lot of investors and trader are just waiting in the wing, and immediately jump while the price is at a "discount". I also tend to believed that $10000 will be somewhat a stable price for quite a time.

Manipulations of who's who from behind are always present but I believed that if institutional investments like NASDAQ and CME goes on-board it can be minimized. If you are willing to go with your hard earned cash at $10000 to get bitcoin then make more decisions now because its a perfect opportunity and don't wait for dips to happened. As what @pooya87 said, $10,000 is here to stay.
7107  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: November 30, 2017, 04:25:02 AM
This may happen. Note that the crypto is fluctuating it may rise and fall. Especially now the price of bitcoins is rising In unexplained reasons. So be careful and ready for the big crash that says we are quick to deal with it. So be watchful and if you are satisfied with raising the value of your bitcoins you will sell it immediately.
Big crash might happen but I don't think it will happen soon with the price that we are seeing now, maybe in the future when there is a big bad news that will create panic and will loss the trust of investors, for now the only thing we can witness is the normal price dump which will eventually be followed by an increase.

This big crash will not happen too soon because Bitcoin has become a store of value and its exposure is bigger than ever. As you said, a normal price dump it is possible and i am waiting for it.

I believe in this too, it was too early to crashed, bitcoin can still handle the demand since many developments can be done with it, it might crash but not on this point where everyone were thrilled and newbies were curious to have it, maybe about 20 years after,when almost everyone and every store uses it.

We all know that a crash is driven by panic. We haven't seen any news related that will cause a massive selling orders to crash the market. So far bitcoin shows it is sometime stable at above $10000. Maybe the correct term is price correction. It corrected itself if I'm not mistaken but quickly recovered above $10000 right now. I guess bitcoin has full confidence and trust of big investors and maybe banks or financial institutions are also entering the market.

So with that said, I don't think that there is a unanticipated drop in price, no one in his right frame of mind would think to remove his/her money in the ecosystem because the price keeps going up. The appropriate question is are you going to panic as well if there is a small dip in the market in the coming days?
7108  Economy / Speculation / Re: $11k? Too fast or just hyped? on: November 30, 2017, 03:48:56 AM
In my opinion that these 11k were artificially made, for some purpose. After correction, bitcoin will drop about 7-8 thousand but it is not exactly. Just a small analysis based on graph

I agree, there is a lot going on that we probably don't know about. I wouldn't be surprised if there is another run up on BCH soon either to try and get all the miners to switch back. Who knows.
Everyone usually say bitcoin will drop but it's hard happen now. Bitcoin's upward trend is considered unstoppable by experts. Everyone is waiting for the Bitcoin price at the end of the year.

I might be one of those who didn't see bitcoin rise to $11,000. Maybe its too fast that it quickly drop to $10,000 today and now its trading above $10,620 as per coinmarketcap. There's still a lot we don't know and don't understand what's keeping this uptrend, price manipulation? Maybe. Who knows?

So for me, although its a fast climb to $11,000, price above $10,000 is sustainable, with few minor corrections along the way but sustainable. And with CME coming on-board next month (if rumors is true) then bitcoin could shoot up once again to $11,000 and stay there.

I still have though the attack coming from Bitcoin Cash at the back of my mind. They will still try to grab some of that cash flowing to bitcoin ecosystem, but I don't think they will succeed long term.

Just continue to HODL, its the best and logical choice for now.
7109  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the price of bitcoin increase forever? on: November 30, 2017, 02:17:57 AM
Short term, bitcoin can't go in this parabolic curve, and at ever increasing speed. And with this kind of moves we really don't know where it would stop and where is the final top. Because we can't really expect that this parabolic curve can go on and be sustainable.

But long term, bitcoin price will increase because their is really a demand. We never know that bitcoin could top $10000 this year, do we? And I think the demand will increase overtime. And this increase in demand will push the price of bitcoin to new heights. The demand could come from different places, financial institutions, IT and non IT companies, maybe a few country that will adopt bitcoin and even casual investors like us. So as long as their is a demand, bitcoin price will go up in the future.
7110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Hits $10,000 on: November 29, 2017, 01:30:15 PM
Bitcoin surpasses the extreme high record of crossing $10000

Yeah, it was predictible Smiley I'm sure the next target for BTC will be 15 k $ in 2018. So all looks rather good for bitcoin investors  Smiley

What do you mean its predictable? You able to predict that this year bitcoin will surpassed $10K?

Obviously, the next target is above $10K now. It really show's that this is just the beginning. Its another journey for all of its since the 5 figures has been broken already. What drove this madness is just unbelievable. I'm all with you that we want this bull run to continue up to December and touch $15K.

I really thought that to push the price above $10K, another country should join the bandwagon. But so far its the other way around, China turns it back and Russia as well. Maybe analyst and speculators are correct that financial institutions are adopting bitcoin as well that's why their we are having this sort of craziness, panic buying right now.
7111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs Bitcoin Cash on: November 28, 2017, 04:08:04 PM
For me, bitcoin is really a electronic tool accustomed to transact online. Speculate the price is fluctuating so many people use bitcoin being an investment.

It is what Satoshi designed bitcoin. To be a P2P electronic system. However, it is not the case today. Because of the high fees and slow confirmation time. This is what Bitcoin Cash proponent pitch though. They claim they have faster confirmation with big blocks. As for bitcoin being investment, its true. Now bitcoin is becoming as a investment and not P2P anymore specially with the price increasing and touching $10000 it will have a hard time being a micro-payment scheme.

But still people have trusted so much in bitcoin that Bitcoin Cash cannot simply overtook the market from us. It has a good price but it will not come close what bitcoin has already reach. Its simply being pump by few individuals and the rest will be victims when they suddenly dump their coins to take profits.
7112  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Education for trading crypto currencies on: November 28, 2017, 01:18:56 PM
Hello

I know there are thousands of books regarding tradings, in the past when i wanted to learn stock trading I joined a bootcamp and I learnt a little bit about Technican Analysis, supports, resistances and some indicatores like EMA, SMA, and so on.

1.  Does the same TA for stocks apply for crypto trading?

No. Crypto trading is very different from stocks. Even stock investors/traders/brokers already confirmed that bitcoin trading is a different ball game. No amount of TA can "predict" where the price is heading. No one even predicted from the beginning of the year that we are going to hit $9000++. The most I saw is $5000.

2.  Can you recommend me a few best books for TA crypto trading, the bootcamp I took was 5 years ago, so I have forgotten a lot of what I learnt.

Sorry mate, I don't know any books for TA crypto, And as far as I know, there's still none because as I have said TA is not applicable to bitcoin market. I might be wrong though.

3.   Can you recommend me some websites related to crypto currency trading? I would like to follow other people signals and analyze them.

https://coinmarketcap.com/ is a good way to start. Just go around the website and see if for yourself. As for other signals, I have no idea because I don't follow anyone. I make my own decisions.

4. Is there an exchange with demo accounts to try first?
Thank you

I think there is, but again, I can't help you with that because I started my crypto trading from scratch. No demo accounts for me, I just put my hands on the cookie jar and see it for myself. Goodluck though. Hope you because a successful trader.
7113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin dip during the Holidays? on: November 27, 2017, 04:34:58 PM
It’s been on my mind a bit, do you think that we will see a dip during the holidays from people cashing out? With Bitcoin nearing 10,000$ I am just curious as to whether it’s got a chance to hold it’s value or if it’s a given that people will start cashing out soon.

Good question. I've been thinking of cashing out some of my bitcoin nearing Christmas season to enjoy and buy gifts for my love ones and probably go out on a family vacation. But I'm still undecided and I have to see where the price could go, if it goes above $10000, I might sell some, but if it didn't get to 5 digits then I will just hodl.

I still other sources though, if I decided to push with our family vacation plans, but at the back of my mind, it wouldn't hurt if I take some profit from holding it for almost a year now.

Let's see, how everything goes though. But I remember last year, there was no cashing out if I'm not mistaken. But its a different situation now, bitcoin has been knocking at $10000, another mental barrier for most traders to overcome.
7114  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: November 27, 2017, 02:20:31 PM
what is sure is that while BTC take steps to those difficulties will keep on being an important instrument, I believe it's too soon to state whatever else to the legitimacy or perpetual quality of this, however from what people groups see at the season of composing this, is in spite of the good and bad times it has had still appears to be extremely solid, and is exceptionally inaccessible from what the title says, we should hold up longer to have a clearer definition.
Bitcoin is the currency which is ruling the world economy at the moment and on the verge of becoming legal throughout the world in the coming years. I am pretty sure that bitcoin is going to cross 20k dollars in the next year. Bitcoin is becoming the focus of attention of so many rich people including billionaires etc. and there are many evidences that these people are investing into bitcoin quite much.

I still get a good laugh when I saw threads like this. Bitcoin will not die and its moving to a new direction now. It will touches $10K very soon and it only proves that bitcoin will not die but will continue to grow even more. It a good ride this year for bitcoin but I'm sure that its gonna be better as the year's goes by.

Bitcoin is breaking all-time-high and I'm sure that it 2018, the price could go somewhere along the $20,000 mark. Companies, financial institutions and other sectors can't really deny the impact of bitcoin that's why they are joining the bandwagon as well specially in 2018. If we are ecstatic seeing the price goes to $9000 to $10000, I don't know what will be our reaction when it touches $20000 or above in 2018.
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7117  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: @ 2 Newbie Questions on: November 26, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
I'm new to mining, but have 20+ years in IT. Just started research on building a miner.
Just getting started on the learning curve, but spent years as an enterprise sys admin, so I'm sure I'll figure it out, but I have a couple of questions bouncing around in my head that i haven't found any info on.


1. As the number of coins generated increases the complexity/calculation load increases. I assume different currencies are at different complexity levels due to their age and the number of coins generated, so hardware that might be mediocre for BitCoin might be more than adequate for another coin, so I 'm looking for on the complexity/calculation load for various coins.

Does any one have an information source with this info?

Maybe this website could help you in a way:

https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/btc?HashingPower=4730&HashingUnit=GH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=1293&CostPerkWh=0.12

Each coin has its own separate tab for:

1. Hashing Power
2. Power consumption (w)
3. Cost per KW/h ($)

Though its only covers more on the top cryptocurrency, but I'm sure you can ask around their forum. And I assuming that there are a lot of experts in every coins.


2. I'm looking for, but haven't found anything yet on competing for transactions. Comparing pools (which ones are best for different coins) and what factors besides raw crypto power influence getting more transactions?


Thanks for any help.



Goodluck though. Also this forum might help you as well. Just wait till knowledgeable members chime in.
7118  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: JP Buntinx on: November 26, 2017, 02:37:03 AM
Am I the only person that thinks JP Buntinx is bot and not a real person? I searched and didn’t see any commentary on this forum. I’m pretty sure JP Buntinx is not a real  journalist. Thoughts?

My take on him. He is not a bot but probably a pseudonym for someone. Usually authors take some other name to hide their real identify. If I remember correct, I read about him writing an article about some scammer. Here is the link:

http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/07/04/gainbitcoin-ponzi-scheme-operator-amit-bhardwaj-takes-ads-hindus-front-page/

"JP is working hard to bring more credibility to the Bitcoin and blockchain news industry. Outside of being Europe Editor at Newsbtc, JP is also an active writer for the website, and does not shy away from letting his opinion be heard."

Maybe he is a member of the forum but used other name as well.

7119  Economy / Economics / Re: DON'T DO PANIC SELLING !!! on: November 25, 2017, 09:35:33 PM
I never panic if bitcoin is decreasing. I remain patient to wait for bitcoin to rise. The key is patience, because if bitcoin falls slightly there will be a big increase. that's my opinion.

That's a good mindset to begin with. Panic selling will bring more harm to you in the long run. So its much better to really just hold don't panic and stay calm. The market is really very unstable and a slight new will tip the price to the other side but it doesn't mean that it will continue to go down or the price will crash. Sometimes a correction needed so that get to the next level. Those that panic and push the sell button right away might regret their decision later.

Because investing in cryptocurrency requires a lot of patience and being calm, especially when we invest in popular coins. I agree with you
Yep!
Cryptomarkets are insane, you need to know before invest.

Specially in the last couple of weeks. Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum and Bitcoin have very wild swings. And all of them are hitting ATH. Understand how the market works and invest on the right time and you will be ok and can make profits.
7120  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Staying on track with BTC prices on: November 25, 2017, 07:44:02 PM
Do you guys check prices of crypto's daily? I'm finding it so stressful to predict and watch prices shoot up and down.

If you are a day trader, it makes sense to check the price everyday because that is your basis of you making the decision to buy and sell it in a matter of minutes. It might be stressful at the beginning, but day trader is already used to it and this is how they make profit. Get in the market make profit and get out quickly or re-invest it again on other coin.

But if you are just a casual trader and long term bag holder, you don't have to check the price daily. Personally, I just check it when I have the time. I have other things IRL to do besides posting and reading the forum. But I see that most newbies really are somewhat addicted to checking the price, but I don't know if this is a good thing to do at the beginning of your bitcoin journey.
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