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7101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: June 20, 2017, 08:29:51 AM
I hope that in 2018 Exscudo will develop into a very serious project with a quality exchange where many traders will be present. At the beginning of trading EON will be sold at a cheap price - and I will definitely buy coins ... In 2018 they will have a good price.

You can not find better deal than it was during ICO because investors got x6.71 time more than they were supposed to be because of unsold tokens. When there is something with huge potential don't stay to think and take action. EON will be still cheap at whatever price is will be trading once it goes live in next months.
The ICO price which was stated would not be the real price when this tokens will be live in the market, don't expect it's possible but it's still the investors who will control the price and as an investors they will not allow to sell it lower and not getting any profit.
7102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: June 19, 2017, 11:40:26 PM
wow that's the big NO when gambling never to stake the money that should be for your family needs, better to just put some btc and allow yourself to enjoy not to ruin your life, just think of it like a good way of investment aiming to earn small amount from your activity.

That is right and people should only play for fun so that they could avoid unexpected thing. I choose both because I need to gamble because Im addicted however Im sure that I dont waste my money because I put alot of money in investment that means Im just using my profit from investment as my bankroll to play
Hopefully but we cannot control every gamblers decision and despite knowing how risky gambling is, majority of the gamblers are still going for the profit. You can't blame them, excitement is getting better if they can make profit at the same time, but the opposite of that is hard to accept, when you lose big that is the time that you regret and you wish you could turn things back which is very impossible, so if we are willing to take the risk we should be willing to accept the outcome, regardless.
7103  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: June 19, 2017, 11:31:12 PM
From two years ago, now you can see the profit of having btc as now its rate nearly $2800.
it is because from that time the market of bitcoin is going very well and it is going to used widely for the merchants that is the thing which is making it favorable currency and it is growing because of that
Expect that in time the price will definitely go up, it's what we are waiting and we will be satisfied with that happening to benefit from our investment.
Bitcoin as a popular currency will invite the attention of business minded to operate using bitcoin in their system, as you have observed there's plenty of business who uses the blockchain especially in the altcoins market and bitcoin is one of the leading currency to exchange tokens or coins.
7104  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: June 19, 2017, 01:20:13 PM
Is it possible to earn 1000 or atleast 100 bitcoins with trading Altcoins.If I buy some bitcoin at cheaper rate today and it's price goes up in future?Which alt you think has potential to make me 1000 btc
It is still possible but you will need very long time to reach it. Keep gain your capital and skill, even 50 btc is easy.

Well a long time and a big capital. Trading can make you rich if you have more than a decent capital for it and 1000btc can also be achievable if your capital is more than 10btc. Gat would be a very big gamble but i think to get 1000btc you would have to be already rich to have that kind of capital
but i think good planning and strategy, experience and trading skill are also important for making a big amount of money, your investment can only be useful if you have good planing and strategy in trading.
Planning is the first thing that should be done but the most important thing is the implementing, your good plan is useless if you do not have the ability to implement it effectively. Any amount is achievable if you have a concrete plan to do it, of course not all your plans will perfectly work that's why you adjust and that would give you a long term success in trading until you get your ultimate goal.
7105  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What were your experiences with Bitcoin when you first started? on: June 19, 2017, 01:01:52 PM
I've some problem when i first started with bitcoin. I read about bitcoin in some forum and ask the people there about bitcoin, then i decided to invest some money. I encountered deposit problem and have to wait 2 days for the support to solve my problem.
At first we encounter a lot of problems but that was already expected, no one is perfect and most of us does not easily learn. What matters is we
learn from our mistakes and we continue our journey to enjoy our life with bitcoin, I learned a lot because I made a lot of mistakes and if did not regret the things that happened to me in the past because it made me realize that I need to take risk and it's part of growing up as a person.
7106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin heading to $4,000 on: June 19, 2017, 05:21:15 AM
We should learned by now that long terms saving is working, but while waiting we must do some work too like trading and investing to be able to add some in our savings.

The first part and second part of your post are diametrically opposite to each other. If you want to hold your coins, then just put your BTC in cold storage and forget about them for the next 2-3 years. But if you want to do investing or trading, then it increases the risk of losing your hard earned coins. But I would advice you to follow your own decisions rather than listening to the advice of others. If you want to hold, then hold. Else, invest in some trust worthy asset.
Good advise, we have to decide on our own since we know exactly what our capabilities are, if we choose to trade actively then make sure we are knowledgeable enough and we have the time to actively monitor the market. This is not a easy job because monitoring the market regularly is very stressful, emotions are ups and down but we have to be able to manage it in order to stay longer and get our aim successfully.
7107  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: June 19, 2017, 04:55:52 AM
In  trading, skills and knowledge are not the only things important. We must be aware too of our risk tolerance and discipline when we are into it.
it is too much important to know about the market, you need to have good planning for going for trade. i think if you do not have good planing the you will become confused and can lose money you need to study the market do analysis and according to your analysis you should take the step and through this way you can protect yourself from lost and can really make money in trading.

That is very true - if we don't have a trading plan, then we will get confused and probably ended up more losing trade than winning trades. The best thing is to have a plan of trades first and then execute it as what the plan is so you will really know what the outcome of your trade would be.
That's a complete gambling, you rely on your luck and not on your skills because you do not have those.
Success will happen and can be achieve but it cannot be achieve overnight, it will take a lot of time depending on our skills and ability to learn, we should be fully aware of what we are doing, this is risky so it is just right to be always knowledgeable in order to succeed.
7108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 18, 2017, 12:45:10 PM
It depends on the trust of each and also how to treat the gambling. Gambling is wrong for people who believe in their religion and their religion says gambling is wrong. No matter how they think about it, gambling is still wrong for them. And for people who from the very start embraced a belief that legalized gambling, it all depends on how they treat gambling.

Everyone has their own religion and each one of those religion teach you not to gamble so in conclusion it is wrong. Yet some people will still keep on playing despite of it. We are responsible for our own action and some day we are going to be judged by it so just keep on doing it if you think that you are fine with it

What I mean is that, if your religion and your country forbid you to gamble, you're wrong if you gamble, no matter how you think it, you're wrong. But if your religion and your country legalize gambling, then the wrong or true gambling is depending on how you treat it.
Basically it should be based on a persons belief and if it is declared illegal in your country then you have to choice but not to violate, otherwise you will have to suffer. Talking of religion, I guess that is a long story, even religion has its own belief so let's just focus on a law since in a certain country we only follow one law.
7109  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: June 17, 2017, 05:37:48 AM
The future of paper money can be so challenging in the future despite of the developing world of currency that's implementing a digital type of sustainable income. I think that it will still be the same type of paper money to be used in the future, but production of paper money will become lesser compared of our current consumption of paper money. Because of that situation happening of masisve adoption of digital currency paper money will not be used always due to fast payment transactions through blockchain networks doing the entire process into fast and comfortable implementations.
Paper money are already secured that it will still be valuable in the future, the government create it for the convenience of everyone and why would they will eliminate that in the circulation. People may adopt with online currency but they cannot live without paper money because most of the activities in life are not done online.
7110  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: June 17, 2017, 05:18:16 AM
There are so many scammers all over the internet. We can't even sure if the site that we will invest is legit or not. I prefer to all of you to just invest your btc and save it in your storage or wallet.
It's a challenge, because that is existing therefore we have to be very careful with investing. As investors you take risk but you make a study if such investment is worth taking risk. My advise if you cannot still decide what investment you will venture, why not buy bitcoins and just hold.
Wait for like 10 years, I'm sure you will get more than any amount you expected, bitcoin is good for long term.
7111  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: June 17, 2017, 01:52:43 AM

I want to generate a constant monthly gain. Is it possible to do this by bitcoin trading? So, can I just do this by dealing with BTC trading?
Are there any people among us who can make a living by trading in BTC?
Trading is more on long term investment so the term passive in trading is not accurate, So I think trading is unpredictable job it is more like part time it should not be the primary source of income because you can lose your money in trading, however you can multiply it also so I think trading should not be thought as a job more as an investment.
Trading is not for long term because if you tell that it is for long term then it is not trading and it is considered investing because if you trade then you almost do this on daily basis you just buy low and sell high or do scalping like in the forex that you speculate the price and make profits from it. Long term is only good for investment and in trading it is risky because you might buy at wrong price.
I guess you can still trade long term, you can do it on a daily basis if you are can really manage your time and the more you trade you will learn a lot which will eventually lead you to a more successful journey. I began trading few years back and it was not easy, I loss in the start but never gave up and I can say now that I have improve and I made profits already.
7112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: June 17, 2017, 01:29:58 AM
hi guys . what is the per eon price for btc ? or usd ?
0.0002/6.71 ~ 2980 sat

you completly did not understand, the 6.7 is only 50% of the xoin, another held for development,
Our doubts with the real price will likely be solve when it will be listed in exchanges, I am also interested with this because I invested a little amount and I trust the devs that they will make this EON valuable in the future. Hold at least 6 months to 12 months, I guess the real value will come.
7113  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What kind of worst decisions do you take when trading? on: June 16, 2017, 07:34:08 AM
I always regret selling my btc because they always rise after me selling.  Angry
That's funny, it's like you are always making the same mistake again, what do you get in selling? is it profit right?
No problem in selling if you need to cash out but if you want bitcoin as your long term investment, you should be willing to hold longer as it is where
you get the best ROI in the long run.
7114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: June 16, 2017, 05:59:27 AM
Lebron James could go away (still) from Cleveland! He could go to Los Angeles (Lakers or Clippers).
He knows that remaining in Cleveland can hardly beat Golden State, instead going into a new team can create a team that can try to beat Golden State.

Lebron will never go to west team. He knows that there too many strong player there and teams in west didn't need much a star player like Lebron. LBJ has a pride and I think he will stick to Cavs. Kevin love might trade to other players. Cavs need to get a good center to replace tristan thompson. He is the only weakness of cavs.
I disagree with you, TT is one of the best center and he shows up well in playoffs because he loves competition, Love should be traded in other team, he is good in shooting and rebounding but not really good in defense, I did not even see him make some hassle plays against his opponent, he is definitely own by Draymond.
7115  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin heading to $4,000 on: June 16, 2017, 05:22:08 AM
That idea of bitcoin heading to $4000 is not yet ready to happen nowadays because of many speculations that is threatening more investors on the blockchain rumors. But despite of what had been happening is I am not afraid of those negative thoughts, and I still hope bitcoin will show up high soon. Challenges normally happens as well as the fluctuations on price trend of bitcoin, because we cannot control every peoples thinking to be not affected with other's opinions.
It could happen any time. There is not that many people that invest in Bitcoin so there is a large chance that the price could get pumped up to that price. There is not that many people placing money in buy orders compared to past price rises if you haven’t noticed already.


Let us be optimistic, now bitcoin price is down. Bu after this, when the market recovers, yeah $4,000 dollar is reachable. now, is the best time to buy, its an opportunity in disguise.
I think most people who believe in bitcoin agree with your point. I will be happy if bitcoin hits $4k soon.
Everyone will be happy for sure because that is a good progress, just recently the price drop and it really drop like there was a dump that is happening. Good thing now the price started to back up a big, I hope this will be the start in seeing a new all time high. I know it's too ambitious but bitcoin is a big market, we can have any price we wanted to.
7116  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You only lose if... on: June 14, 2017, 02:46:50 PM
I think we only lose if we do not have any knowledge about trading and we buy everything based on our emotions, we have no strategy and we do not have trust in ourselves. Nowadays, a lot of people engage in trading but they do not know too much about it, they only hear their friends talk about profit from trading and they feel trading is simple, just buy low price and sell at high price. However, the truth has proved all, trading is not simple and they lose a lot of money
Definitely you will, education is the basic tool to succeed in trading and even if you are educated you still need to improve your knowledge as the market is moving and new development are happening. Trading might be easy for the eyes of some people but in reality it is very risky because you need to put your money in order to start trading, and there is no certainty that you can win automatically.
7117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: June 14, 2017, 02:11:15 PM
Conggratulations EXSCUDO Developers, investors and supporters
Cannot waiting EXSCUDO distributions and listed on exchanger
thank you
Exscudo made their timeline and I think we have to wait for the schedule, this thread is dedicated for all investors and bounty hunters so we should maintain a good discussion and let's stop posting repetitive questions that has been answered already for the benefit of all.
7118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: June 14, 2017, 07:56:21 AM
As what I've predicted Warriors will win this series because of the fire power they have including their bench players are really contributing compared to the bench of Cavs. It's a good series for GSW. I won also a lot of money because of you guys. Congrats GSW!!!
The warriors are the heavy favorites even if you look at any betting site, actually I was not able to bet on the series because I feel like the odds for the warriors to win is not exciting. I just won a little amount betting with my friends who have no idea about online betting, they will not hesitate to accept your bet because they have their favorite team that's playing.
7119  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: June 14, 2017, 05:33:17 AM
If the price is stable then it is not bitcoin anymore, you cannot control the price volatility because the supply is limited and there are whales who manipulate the price on their favor. Well, that is the reality and we cannot change that, instead let's study how the market moves so we can benefit from it.
7120  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: June 14, 2017, 05:21:33 AM
i do both trading and holding, also lending on poloniex for the risk averse.. way better than lending to random people here  Grin

both were good it will just depend on how we will ork and manage it.
You will loss your money if you not have knowledge or skill in trade, although you hold or trading. But I think in recently, hold crypto is good way for earning, because we are in the first wave or third wave in Elliot wave of Cryptocurrencies
You need to be knowledgeable in everything that you do whatever it is. As for me trading is my favorite because I can make income even in a daily basis especially when I am lucky as well, yet it is also gambling but the difference is there is no house edge and you are gambling with traders itself.
It is interesting if you love to trade as the longer you do it, you can master how to be more consistent.
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