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7121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: September 14, 2016, 11:23:23 PM
It's interesting how Christians are the only group of people who object to the age of the Earth...

No they are not.  Muslims are similar "fundamentalists" and believe the same crock of shit.

I have to date not met a single Muslim fundamentalist who believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old.

Why? Won't they let you date married Muslim fundamentalists?    Grin

I have dated many fundies in the past. Fundie girls are the best, especially the Christian ones, hahahaha.
Oh, man.  Those preachers' daughters...
7122  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Edward Snowden makes "moral" case for presidential pardon on: September 14, 2016, 11:22:17 PM
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Although US presidents have granted some surprising pardons when leaving office, the chances of Obama doing so seem remote, even though before he entered the White House he was a constitutional lawyer who often made the case for privacy and had warned about the dangers of mass surveillance. Obama's former attorney general Eric Holder, however, gave an unexpected boost to the campaign for a pardon in May when he said Snowden had performed a public service. >>



Obama when he leaves office will be pardoning the largest mess of crooked politicians the world has ever seen.

He doesn't have time to blink an eye at someone that deserves an honest pardon.
7123  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 14, 2016, 11:18:34 PM
Hillary has PARKINSON's DISEASE.

I'm neither DemoCrip nor ReBloodlican, so I'm not being "political" when I say this.  Do a search on Google, or even better, YouTube.

Let's say you are right.  Then Sickery is suffering from a progressive degenerative disease which induces hallucinations and delusions.

That's both pretty sad and disqualifying.
7124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanctions to make hell on earth for +70 million people!!! on: September 14, 2016, 05:43:25 PM
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Sanctioning a country to a point where the lives of +70 million people is literally a hell on earth for them while military forces and governments measuring their dicks in a contest...

Iran is the world's leading sponser of Terrorism.  That means it's routine for them to pay the families of suicide bombers, for one thing.

Their people suffer because the world powers sanction their country for the evil things they do.

Their people suffer because of the evil things their country does.

Pretty simple.
7125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hillary Clinton faints at 9/11 Memorial. Is sick with "Pneumonia" on: September 14, 2016, 05:40:57 PM
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Maybe she did profit from the incident but I doubt she is that stupid  Cheesy

Might just be wrong about that.
7126  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who replaces Hillary? on: September 14, 2016, 02:18:16 AM
Trying to think who, ...
Jeb Bush?
7127  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 14, 2016, 12:15:45 AM
I'll see your nutz and raise you a Parkinson's Disease diagnosis from Dr. Drew Pinsky. The Globalist B*tch is really sick.

Word has it that his diagnosis of Shillery got his show cancelled & no one except the Alternative media will even touch it.

Some pretty credible analyses here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzNe4fh4L_0#t=15.765553


FYI, I was telling people that Hillery looked like she had serious medical problems four or five years ago.

I do not know of a similar situation in American history like this, going into the last two months of an election with a candidate with a serious medical problem set. 

But the globalists backing her just want the power and control, it is of zero importance to them where their puppet is Hillery or someone else they pick to replace her.  Either now or after the election.

7128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mexico flooding America with illegal African monkeys on: September 14, 2016, 12:03:56 AM
Nothing a wall wouldn't fix. Just build a x2 bigger wall and all solved.

Yeah, because that totally worked when they did the Berlin Wall, the Great Wall of China, etc etc.

We should just build a huge fence around Donald Trump

Actually the Berlin wall and the great wall worked pretty well...
Yes, Berlin wall worked well, separated two sides of city an families, relatives, friends for ~30 years... Or this is only sarcasm by you?

He is not being sarcastic, he is serious. Every right wing troll here is.

Well, "worked" in terms of it's intended function.

Does not mean I liked it.

And as for "right wing," just a reminder.  "Neo-Nazi" is neo left wing. Ya know, that National Socialist Party of Germany?

lol...

They were men of God, to be specific, Christians. Even wore Iron Crosses to show off their hardcore Christiandom. #BurningJewsForJesus
The bending of christianity to support Nazi goals has been well studied and is far enough in the past to be a matter of history. 

Anyway, you are only shifting and moving the goals.  You asserted "right wing," I probably corrected you.  One would think anyone who was "Neo-Nazi" would be "left wing" as they follow and support the National Socialist (eg NAZI) agenda.

Unless you intend to assert that "men of God" implies "right wing."  I do not think that has any validity, but some others may.
7129  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 13, 2016, 11:53:06 PM
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Anyone is going to need 8 years to really save what's left of the nation and turn things around.  That would put Trump at 80 years old. 

Let's take his 80 over hitlery's 65.

She's 68 now.  He's 70.  In 8 years she'll be 76 & he'll be 78.

Whatever.

They're both nutz.

Okay.  Let's take his whatever against her nutz.
7130  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stunning Videos of Evolution in Action on: September 13, 2016, 11:53:44 AM
So? What is evolution. When scientists get around to understanding any of the mechanism of why this works the way it does, they will find that it is built-in operations, that are not random happenings, but are operations that are encoded into the DNA one way or another.

The real point is, are things happening by random chance? Or are they happening by cause and effect programming.

"Evolution" is a word. It can mean anything somebody defines it to mean. Cause and effect is like a string of dominoes, each domino being reacted upon in such a way that it reacts on another. This is all you find going on in a petri dish, or a large petri-like dish... complex strings of domino-like actions and reactions.

Regarding the petri-like dish... you don't find sustained petri dishes in nature. People can build all kinds of things. In this case, they built what they call mutation in action, also known as what they call evolution. You don't find such as this sustained in nature.

Is this all the further science has come since Darwin? At this rate, it will be a million years before they find the cause and effect machinery in nature, if they ever do.

Cool

It's a poor article, as if the writer for the Atlantic did not truly understand science.

It can be assumed that the scientists did account for other factors, and did test DNA sequences before and after, and that they are therefore showing "evolution in action."

These guys are well aware of issues such as epigenesis. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics
7131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Arizona recreational cannabis legalization: Insys therapeutics vs the People on: September 13, 2016, 11:40:25 AM
Insys Therapeutics is making fentanyl, which is a derivate from heroin... They wouldn't tolerate another plant to eat their market shares...


Sorry, I read your header wrong.

"Arizona recreational cannibals..."
7132  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hillary Clinton faints at 9/11 Memorial. Is sick with "Pneumonia" on: September 13, 2016, 11:39:04 AM
Let's assume for a moment that she is at death's door and has known for a long time, er, would you put you put yourself up for the most stressful job on Earth and spend months of grinding beforehand to try and get it?

And to think of how liberals all criticized Reagan for being too old.

Now they'd surround death-bed Hillary with a warm basket of feelings.
7133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: September 13, 2016, 11:36:56 AM
There will always be a conspiracy theory surrounding this. For one, Osama was a CIA NCO who went rogue, who else has he contacted from inside? There will always be a loose end somewhere..

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Unfortunately for this type of theory, the number and variety of "Groups that the US has helped with training or funds" is virtually "all."  Therefore, to pick one out and indicate that we helped them when Afghanistan's war was with the Soviets is rather ridiculous.

But you are correct to indicate that he "went rogue," instead of applying conspiracy theory to the actual events.



How's it like working for Iran these days?

Im not working for Iran.
The guy speaks Greek. I don't know if he works for Iran or not, but it's not very probable for a random Greek. He wrote
"Φανταζομαι θα χρειαζεται και συσκευη ποδομετρου. Παντως θα ειχε νοημα αν εβαζαν ενα ποσοστο πληθωρισμου 5-10%/ετος ή αρνητικο επιτοκιο 5-10%/ετος και ο κοσμος να μιναρει αυτο το ποσοστο αλλιως μαλλον ειναι πυραμιδα."



Anyone who propagates the propaganda of Iran is working for Iran.  Sure, some of them don't even know that's what they are doing.

Puppets on a string.
7134  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mexico flooding America with illegal African monkeys on: September 12, 2016, 11:38:27 PM
Nothing a wall wouldn't fix. Just build a x2 bigger wall and all solved.

Yeah, because that totally worked when they did the Berlin Wall, the Great Wall of China, etc etc.

We should just build a huge fence around Donald Trump

Actually the Berlin wall and the great wall worked pretty well...
Yes, Berlin wall worked well, separated two sides of city an families, relatives, friends for ~30 years... Or this is only sarcasm by you?

He is not being sarcastic, he is serious. Every right wing troll here is.

Well, "worked" in terms of it's intended function.

Does not mean I liked it.

And as for "right wing," just a reminder.  "Neo-Nazi" is neo left wing. Ya know, that National Socialist Party of Germany?

lol...
7135  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 12, 2016, 11:36:27 PM
...
Anyone is going to need 8 years to really save what's left of the nation and turn things around.  That would put Trump at 80 years old. 

Let's take his 80 over hitlery's 65.
7136  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hillary Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia on: September 12, 2016, 09:39:51 PM
iam very sad is hear about hilary clinton pneumonia
i think is hilary can not run election us president
donald trump can win

Most likely, Clinton will be replaced by another candidate with similar views, it won't be an automatic victory for Trump that's for sure.

Aww....

I so want to see her flailing on stage with The Trump at least once.
7137  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mexico flooding America with illegal African monkeys on: September 12, 2016, 09:35:30 PM
Nothing a wall wouldn't fix. Just build a x2 bigger wall and all solved.

Yeah, because that totally worked when they did the Berlin Wall, the Great Wall of China, etc etc.

We should just build a huge fence around Donald Trump

Actually the Berlin wall and the great wall worked pretty well...
7138  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: September 12, 2016, 12:46:22 PM
iam still trust to choose hilary clinton

iam not trust why u do? Grin

Damn!  We need better paid sock puppets!   Ones that can at least spell and get the grammer right.  All these sock puppets are fucking Democrats, why don't they unionize and demand a living wage?
7139  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: September 12, 2016, 12:44:16 PM
“What I learned: Sept 11th 2001 - Sept 11th 2016”
As dictated into text in 10 min, by Peter Joseph
On September 11th 2001, I woke up a bit late for work. Living in Brooklyn, I hopped the train to midtown to humor my job as an artistic director for a team of corporate media video editors. Blasting some flavor of polymetric Nordic death metal in my headphones, a morning ritual to assist my burgeoning caffeine habit, I bounced along my subway transfers, never noticing why the train kept starting and stopping more than usual. By the time I reached midtown, it was about 9:15 and rather than run to my job, now 15 min late, I decided, as usual, food was more of a priority. So, I popped into my fav bagel shop and noticed something was off. Finally removing my headphones, I inquired as to the strange mass behavior I was feeling. My buddy behind the counter, someone I had seen almost everyday for 2 years, looked at me and said coldly “You have had your headphone on. Two planes. Each crashed into the twin towers.”
Walking back outside, the temperament of things changed dramatically as my perception opened. The vast rush hour masses had a tension I will never forget. Something that can only be felt not described. Entering the office was equally as strange. My co-worker and friend Scott (who coincidentally ended up being the “man on the street” for Culture In Decline over a decade later) was in rare form. He said to me “Dude! They just hit the pentagon! There is no other symbolic strike that could ever show such an act of war!” This was true. His father also worked at the Pentagon so there was a deeper meaning to that observation. Luckily his father wasn’t harmed.
Being dismissed from work early, Scott and another co-worker and I went to his apartment. By that time, the city was almost a ghost town. After phone calls with family, we all sat back and watched the news as the vast majority did. And my memory of that experience alone was surreal. While I admit the stress of the circumstance brought out the whisky, the nature of the news that day was overwhelming. I think we watched those planes enter those towers 500 times in a few hours. Over and Over. The news was just a loop, in effect. It was like a kind of cult or religious programming - endless repetition of images to be associated. Explosions, collapsing towers, bin Laden, Islam, various “terrorist” b-roll highlighting the Middle East; peppered with the incredible suffering and heart break of the families and victims of the event. To me - and to the nation at large - these images would never be separated again. It was an emotionally induced trauma; a sociological effect comparable to mass PTSD.
As the years went by, my basic sense of religious contempt was only inflamed. I was perfectly happy to believe that a set of extremists, praising their invisible man in the sky, conjured up a plan to harm the “evil empire”. I really didn’t give it a 2nd thought until about 5 years later when I saw footage of World Trade Center 7. Since I had never heard of WTC7 until 2006, it baffled the intuition that a nearly 50 story building, located a city block away from the twin towers, could quite suddenly collapse into its own footprint at free fall speed. Having always enjoyed physics and math in school, nothing about this was right, especially the corroborating testimony of people who were inside WTC7 who experienced pre-weakening explosions first hand. Even the official NIST report never explained how the collapse occurred, despite its closed black-box model that magically made it all work in a computer. And from that moment, the flood gates opened with not a few discrepancies regarding the Official Story - but hundreds.
But! I’m not here to explore the vast evidence that links 9/11 to internal corruption and collusion within the United States Government. Yes, we could talk about the weeks of extreme high temperatures coming from under collapsed WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7 that could be seen via thermal imagery from satellite — temperatures that were simply impossible on their own, corroborated by the numerous fire department eye witnesses that describe pools of liquid or molten steel in the basements. Yes, we could talk about the multi-corroborated testimony from various workers in the sub-basements of WTC1 and WTC2 who experienced mass explosions there — moments before the planes even hit the top of the towers; the same explosions that blew out the windows of the building lobbies on the first floor. Yes, we could talk about NORAD and the FAA and the numerous war games going on the same day, some of which involved planes being flown into buildings, causing apparent confusion as fighter jets were scrambled in the complete wrong direction. A failure of commercial interception that has never happened in US history.
Yes, we could talk about how most of the hijackers had been under FBA surveillance for years, with two of them actually living with an FBI informant. Yes, we could talk about the 100+ warnings sent from all over the world that an attack on US soil, possibly the WTC, was looming while the Bush admin looked the other way. The words “it will be spectacular” was used months before by the CIA. Yes, we could talk about how it took over a year and with perpetual pressure from the victims' families to have any investigation at all - resulting in perhaps one of the most underfunded inquiries to date; only to produce the 911 Commission (Omission) Report where, today, the heads admit their efforts were stifled at every turn and the report is heavily whitewashed. And Yes - we could also talk about how the events of 9/11 have set course for criminal Western military invasions and imperialism with systemic chain reactions that continue to throw a net of hegemonic oppression, death and destruction over the planet - including the creation of what has now become real, true terrorism in the form of IS and so on.
Yes — We could talk about alot of things.
But I’m not. Wink
Instead, I am going to use this 15th anniversary of 9/11 to talk about the most important thing I learned from the event and that is the power of social psychology. To whatever degree you disagree with the Official US Conspiracy Theory, you will find that the discussion is long closed and the stamp of religious sanctity has made the event untouchable. It is now a codified religious myth and there are severe consequences to those who dare express an alternative position. “Heretic” is perhaps the best term for it.
It is an unfortunate evolutionary fact that human beings are prone to seeking acceptance into their community or group rather than suffer the isolation and ostracism that comes with taking an unpopular position. This is compounded by the need to uphold a reputation, something also related to gaining income in this society. People will justify all sorts of things to maintain an image to secure income, even if it means suppressing their beliefs. I can’t tell you how many friends who were outspoken in demanding a real, independent investigation of 9/11 lost their jobs and were alienated from friends and family. Some were sent into massive depressions with dark results.
The herd mentality has a powerful effect in terms of what is called “social identity theory”. Social identity theory points out that we are ultimately defined by the people around us, particularly the groups we identify with. In this, deviation from the group consensus is destabilizing. In the 1950s, a study asking a group of people to make simple decisions about visual images, such as which line on a screen was the longest of a set. However, all but one test subject was in on the study. These other participants were fakes, planted to purposely agree on the wrong answer and encourage the test subject to go along with their group decision about the correct match. The controlled study proved a strong effect of peer pressure, with over 75 percent of the participants in the total of 12 repeated tests conforming at least once. This is in contrast to the control group (no pressure to conform) where less than 1 percent conformed. This propensity to favor group loyalty, bypassing critical, independent thought is widespread and it works on the personal level or the mass social level.
Neurobiologist Vasily Klucharev writes that “the deviation of individual opinion from the group behavior (opinions) is interpreted by the nervous system as behavioral error or ’reward prediction error’, which starts the process of behavior change, based on the dopaminergic mechanism of reinforcement learning.” In other words, our very brains are somewhat trapped between rational thinking and impulsive counter reactions that seek to prefer in-group conclusions. We experience pain otherwise. These lower brain reactions can make us vulnerable to numerous thoughtless behaviors triggered by brain chemistry, and in addition make us susceptible to external manipulation. Our emotions can literally “change our mind” when the pressure is high enough, given the power of the subconscious mind.
The point being, since 9/11 the power of this gravitation toward group identity/inclusion has been made strongly apparent. Today, I’m hard pressed to find any average person willing to have a rational conversation on the countless problems with the US governments story of 9/11. The emotional dissonance is simply to hard for them, especially since the barometer of the zeitgeist - the mainstream media - has condemned any such discussion with vast pejoratives, derision and mockery. This is no different in phenomenology than the group gravitations in presidential elections, as we see the masses fall victim to today. The undertone of wanting to be on the “winning” side of such a contest, quickly pulls people in due to these same propensities for social inclusion.
So, as much as we like to think humanity has critical freewill to make proper decisions if properly informed, the truth is we have a sociological group inclusion problem. And this problem fights logic, reason and critical thought. I wish I had a simple answer to resolve it, particularly with respect to the dire need for a social revolution. But until a kind of grand galvanization is created - one focused and consistent in its targets and methods, we cannot expect much change given this looming sociological imposition. The tipping point can only occur through critical mass; A mass large enough to attract enough people to override this fatal evolutionary flaw. I am convinced that this basic irrational propensity, compounded by our social system, is exactly what stops what should be a natural, progressive move into improved social affairs by humanity.
That is the most important thing I learned from 9/11 and it has changed the way I engage the world as an activist. That said, I will conclude by making one other observation.
While the problem of the “bandwagon” is bad enough, 9/11 fundamentally promotes “in-group” and “out-group” bigotry. This annual ritual we have to remind ourselves of how "we" were “attacked” does nothing but inflame the irrational. People say to me “don’t you feel for the families of 9/11?” I say yes- but no more than the 1 poor child who dies every 5 seconds from poverty and inequality. And this annual event isn’t about the families or victims anyway. It is about American exceptionalism.
My sympathy is not driven by this illusion of group identity we have fostered in the US or the Western world in general. There are no exceptions. It is a miserably immature reality that just because the event was molded by malice and was executed in a spectacularly criminal, Hollywood film-like way, that the citizens of the United States now blindly recite their religious catch phrase of “we will never forget”. The very phrase is draped in vindictive-ness and elitism.
And this applies to all nations or groups that hold up their “personal atrocities” as some reminder of their plight or current exceptionalism.
On that level, I want nothing more than to forget.

What absolute stupid shit rambling.

But then, 911 Truthers are boring.
7140  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hillary Clinton faints at 9/11 Memorial. Is sick with "Pneumonia" on: September 12, 2016, 12:39:35 PM
yes, she is sick with ''pneumonia'' and this is not unusual. Hillary Clinton is a human being . ...

You sure?
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