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7141  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: January 02, 2017, 04:07:37 AM
I hope people who know its true worth will not even try to invest in gold instead of bitcoins.

Do you think that the institutional investors, who chose gold over bitcoin are complete idiots? At least those investors, who purchased Bitcoins for $1,200 per coin in 2014 would disagree with you.
yeah , you are right . I found a bad fact for gold which is the price of gold at the lower level of three year . So we can say it is much harder to make money from gold . But in bitcoin fluctuations in high peaks making a big profits for us.

Yeah even those gold investors will know that bitcoin is true, still I think they will divest themselves into bitcoin. In fact, they will even trust gold rather than gold because they already in the industry for so long. And the same thing in us who are using bitcoin, even though we know that gold is a good investment but we are earning in bitcoin so we will just simply choose bitcoin.
in current situation i think bitcoin, as bitcoin has now crossed psychological barrier of 1000 USD level therefore still can boost  so i think still investing in bitcoin will be a good decision.
No doubt about it, bitcoin is the best investment for an ordinary living people now. The minimum amount needed as investment is very affordable, yet it can offer us great returns as we do not control how much the price will grow. Like last year, the price of bitcoin has gone up more than 100% which I believe already a great profit when one has invested a decent amount of money.
7142  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum Amount To Start Trading? on: January 02, 2017, 03:54:22 AM
For me, I think it is wiser for a newbie to trading to start slowly with 0.01BTC and learn from his mistakes and understand the market, both the fundamental and technical analysis and also the most important thing human psychology to rise and fall in price. The more you are willing to risk will determine the profit you are likely to gain
If it's possible to lower that amount then it's the best way to do it, you trade to learn when you are a newbie so it's just right to put up a minimum amount that you can use to practice your way in trading as well. In time, you can add that gradually because along the way you can learn and finding a new method will always happen and you can be very eager to try it. Everything must be a learning experience and make yourself grow in trading.
7143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: January 02, 2017, 03:43:07 AM
Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.
It is depending on your investment, if you are investing a large amont then surely the risk is high and if you are going to invest a small amount then there is low risk, but the fact is that risk is always involve not only in gambling but in all types of trading also.
yes but it also depend on your experience if you have good experience of gambling then you can minimize the risk in gambling as there are some games where you can use your experience to get succeeded.

However, making money in gambling is not easy as we think. It involves skills and experience to succeed, you can tell that by yourself if you have a future with gambling because you are the one that is playing and you can always track your record, but be honest with yourself as that is the biggest mistake most gamblers are making.
7144  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: January 02, 2017, 03:09:50 AM
governments simply aren't interested in incorporating bitcoin. they can't deal with the fact that it is something they can't control. paper money will stay at least for another 10-20 years.
Now, the government has not ignored the bitcoin propagation speed, but they cannot control bitcoin, so began the development of digital money, maybe money will be replaced in the future, not bitcoin, will also be other digital currency.

It is a probability but it has a high percentage that it will occur if bitcoin will not be accepted by masses before the launch of fiat currency. The movement of fiat currency turning digital using blockchain technology is a big threat to bitcoin economy, this may change the world of virtual currency. This movement is a counter to decentralization to hold the masses and never leave a centralized currency both online and offline.
The government can make their own at ease as they can simply copy the system of bitcoin but one thing they cannot copy is the decentralization. In the future, we may be using digital currency in the future but not everyone can adopt. Bitcoin enthusiast will still remain be loyal with bitcoin as long as they can continue to benefit using it.
7145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin hits $1,000 again on: January 02, 2017, 01:36:32 AM
That's a great achievement for bitcoin to happen at the start of this year, for sure it will continue to rise, nobody has expected but because we keep believing, here is the price now that we love to see. I am pretty sure we are going to surpass the all time high this year with speed of price increase to continue. I hope, when it started to fall it will not hit to the lower level again, I am already happy if we can be stable starting this year. lol
7146  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: January 02, 2017, 01:05:18 AM
Without fiat dollar there would be no bitcoin.Most miners and any merchant that using bitcoin convert to fiat anyway.Also most trading and liquidity to market is against fiat dollar etc.This is true.
of course, because the current bitcoin also relies on fiat currency like dollars, unless bitcoin could stand on its own has a market in the real world and accepted throughout the country, it can stand on its own bitcoin
Which I believe it will not happen, bitcoin is decentralized and no government behind this. We can only stand if we have someone who will manage us which would regulate everything to control the order, regardless of how successful bitcoin is, still we cannot deny the fact that we still rely on fiat.
7147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 02, 2017, 12:52:47 AM
You always should have your safety or limit to the amount you will gamble. Bet what you can afford to lose, so you wouldn't be emotional when it happens. You can risk in a smart way by betting on the right places. (For example for sportsbooks) To bet on the team or player that would have a sure win. So eventually, you will always have the advantage. You just have to be patient and don't be frustrated. Goodluck to people who gambles!
Im agree with you if you want to dont lose more money just budget your gambling money and dont be greedy.In my opinion the best and smart way to do is invite more friends and make them as your referrals.More referrals more earnings.They have many more gambling site have a referral program like bitdice.me
Greed is one of the things that can most disrupt the financial life of the individual. It is important to know the right time to take profit, and you have to be aware that new opportunities can always arise, just be patient and wait for the right moment. Many people end up suffering the loss, and only decide to make the right decisions after that. The important thing is to try to make the best decisions from the beginning.
What we need in gambling is to have the right discipline, chasing bets is a sight of being irresponsible brought to us by our frustration during cold streak, controlling such feeling is very important to last in the game. We have determine our chances already and we know it does not favor on us, so we must learn how to control ourselves in gambling.
7148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: January 01, 2017, 01:04:27 PM
It's just funny for me. I do not like gambling but sometimes I paly gambling for relax and geting out of the stress.
Gambling is really not good for anybody. it will make you poor and exhausted.


Yes gambling is only good until we do it for fun or relaxation. I have been gambling a lot but like others only for fun and sometimes I win also obviously which makes me feel good. You cannot eliminate the winning factor.
Gambling must be done for fun, it's a game but will not be fun once we see for profit. As a gambler, it is already expected that we have up and downs towards our journey in gambling and always the hardest part to accept is the defeat. To be able to stay in the game, we must master our way to accept whatever the outcome and make measures to minimize our loses while still having fun.
7149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: January 01, 2017, 12:44:28 PM
legendary performance to Harden tonight! 53 points 16 rebounds and 17 assists! nobody has managed to do this in the history of nba
That was a payback for his haters due to his poor performance in the past season, the curse is over and Harden is back again in his MVP caliber play. I just hope they figured out how to beat the Warriors now as in the past it's always a lopsided game when the two faces, warriors winning in the end.

If they can continue the impressive performance as a team, I have a feeling they can top the west by the end of the regular season.
7150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: January 01, 2017, 12:38:11 PM
Considering that the market has a ton of shit coins its best to stay away from them and just only way I see any profit making business is by investing in gambling sites bankroll.

Many ICOs are scam and people should be careful before investing in them blindly after reading their tempting offers and giveaways. However many coins are again legit and worth buying only to sell at increased prices and/or mine them and sell them (so you dont pay any money except mining fees).

Investing in casino bankroll is worth it and better for long term and not short term.
What is safe will only offer you a small income, the bigger the risk you take when it succeed the better the return you will get. True, investing in online gambling sites guarantees profit, however it's not that big as we expected because to be able to get a decent return we also need to put up a bigger investment which I think majority of us cannot afford to do it.
7151  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: December 31, 2016, 02:14:02 AM
Its hard to tell if it would have been popular but for one well known fact  it does NOT have buyer or seller protection which makes it unpopular for users who treasure their financial protection as users would want to feel protected when using it
The protection in transacting online can be done thru asking the service of the trusted escrow in the business, everything is possible with bitcoin and the limit is only upon us. Further, there are many services online that has been operating for so long already without any problem with bitcoin as a source of payment, a few to mention is purse.io.
7152  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Willing Ka Ba Magbayad ng Buwis? on: December 31, 2016, 01:57:13 AM
Paying taxes is not a voluntary thing to me, the law is enforce to require us to pay taxes and failure to comply with it will make us liable for tax evasion. I believe if you can hide something that is your privilege not to pay taxes like what is with the scenario here in bitcoin world, we earn but the government does not oblige us to pay taxes since bitcoin is not regulated in our country yet.
7153  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: December 31, 2016, 01:45:02 AM
Paypal is better when you invest online or you buy something and than you find that the item is not worthfull to buy and want refund or may be some one try to scam you than you can charge back to protect your funds and rights but when you talk about fast/anonymous/low cost transaction than Bitcoin is better.
may be it so but i personally have no experience in paypal, according so some ops paypal is not a universal form and its service is not available everywhere. therefore to me i think bitcoin is the best option as compare to paypal.
Yes agree with you PayPal service is not available everywhere, but it is stable today bitcoin is unstable because  today price is 900$ but no one knows how much it will be tomorrow so for shopping PayPal is good then bitcoin
Paypal is purely a payment processor while bitcoin can be both a currency and investment as well, when it comes to security based on the compliance of the law, Paypal is better but we are all risk takers here, we want to have full freedom and that resulted us to patronizing bitcoin which has a decentralized system.
7154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The future looks fantastic, kids love Bitcoin on: December 31, 2016, 01:33:30 AM
Kids are accepting new things much faster then adults. Knowledge about Bitcoin is good but they are not so experienced and rstional as adults so they have to be warned about danger too. Kids and teenagers are getting new infomations very quick and often parents can't control them anymore and they could get stuck on bad places like dark markets and similar.
I agree. Kids love to learn new things in this world so that they can easily adapt to changes. Bitcoin is a new technology which is very interesting and useful. Many people are attracted by Bitcoin so there are not any reason for kids to hate it. Looking forward to seeing the future when your kids grow up, it will be very very awesome
It's good to teach kids at a young age so when they grow up they have more interest with bitcoin, as of this time, bitcoin is still at the young age and we can surely see more growth or success in the future. Getting your kids involve to your passion, would help as when he matures, he can share ideas and the sayings can be applied that two heads are better than one.
7155  Economy / Services / Re: BITSANE Signature and Avatar Campaign(FULL) on: December 30, 2016, 11:03:40 PM
Hi i just seen the spreadsheet and i notice many members are left from the last week and i would like to join and get full members spot

Name: Natalim
Rank: Full.member
Post count:472
Signature: Yes
Bitcoin add: 1PBJv1sFaRKX3hfexVE2J3Pn5VVtDFz6HY

Let me know if i'm accepted or not. Thanks

Dude, I noticed you copied my name. lol (maybe that's the reason why you are denied)
7156  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: December 30, 2016, 04:01:49 AM
Sometimes, I just regret whenever I am about to invest but I forget to do and then the price gets high. It is like ughh, but, then again it is not too late at all. There are always chance that we can make profit thru trading. Patience is always the key here and focus in at the same time. Make trading as one of your habit.
The key to success in trading is to always pay attention to the market movement, but despite of that we cannot avoid sometimes we miss the opportunity. Our journey should still continue as the price of bitcoin does not only stop there, currently it's moving up so see that as an opportunity to ride with the success.
7157  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: December 30, 2016, 03:48:08 AM
I keep believing that I would be rich with bitcoins. I sacrifice my usual things what I'm doing before. So I'm really willing to concentrate working using BTC. I have my goals here and I know I can achieve it through my hardworks. I will not waste this big opportunity. To be honest, at first I find it hard but as day passes I learned it.
Going full time on bitcoin is somehow risky because we cant still be assure on what would happen on bitcoin on next years to come but we dont still lose hope because we could able to tell the bitcoins full potential and we are already seeing it as the days goes by.I do have also a wish to get rich on bitcoin but im not expecting too much on it.
But who lives in this world without taking risks and you will never be rich if you are not taking risk, I think it's more depends on your passion, if you love what you are doing then it will certainly give good results to you. Going full time with bitcoin is a good choice but relying only in bitcoin is a bad move, always have an alternative source of income.
7158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is GAMBLING? on: December 30, 2016, 03:28:19 AM
A hobby, an entertainment, a game of chance is what we call "gambling" when you try to take a chance or a lucky guess flipping a coin 50-50.
But some times it's not about playing games or having fun but when you are not certain about the outcome of a deal or trade or where only one can speculate about the future if you decide to act only to see what happens it is the same gambling definition.
Well, I guess we have to play it for fun all the time, it's the only way we can enjoy gambling longer, it's a game of chance and there our chances are uncertain so we have to accept whatever the outcome, may it favor us or not. The problem with some people is that they think gambling is a source of income where in fact it's not, it's purely a source of entertainment.
7159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: December 30, 2016, 03:05:08 AM
just find another method to increase your btc stash.
The safest and most effective method so far is just to hold your bitcoins, in such way you will not be scam investing in a certain business and it will be relaxing on your part as you will not have to manage your investment from time to time. You just sit pretty and wait for the price to grow as you expected then sell for a profit, very simple, right?
7160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 30, 2016, 02:51:54 AM
I prefer to control myself getting out of gambling instead of asking a help from other people. Not all people are just like what you think, that needs an advice of people around you, some of them chose to be alone. They have still their own decisions even they receive advices from others.

I agree, each people have their own way of quitting from gambling. Some people needs some advice to help themselves to quit. Some can quit by only themselves. It depends on what type of person we are. Some feels comfortable if they adviced by their friends. And some can deal alone with it.
And another type of person may need professional help like the one a psychologist can offer so they can quit gambling for good and unfortunately there will be people unable to quit the habit.
It's impossible, we can all solve the problem with addiction as every problem has a solution. The time matters as it depends on the gravity of the problem and the willingness of a person who wanted to be changed, when it's more serious, it needs full cooperation and more time to solve the problem.
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