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7141  Economy / Economics / Re: What is a good amount of BTC to Buy? on: May 12, 2018, 05:56:30 PM
If we can get a cheaper price than $ 6000 is certainly better, but if you look at the fact that happened in some time now it seems difficult to get the price of $ 6000, I'm sure May mei price soon reaches the range $ 10k- $ 13k, so buy with current price is a good price.
2X Bitcoin touch at 6k usd, well i have some opinion like you for now maybe the price will not going at mai. If you looking chart history maybe can be same happen similiar like 2017 waiting June - September to get some bullish movement.
7142  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Satoshi is dead,If not where is he now on: May 12, 2018, 05:45:01 PM
Is Satoshi is dead,If not where is he now and what is he doing right now..Bitcoin price is down sharply. Can he do something?
In my opinion, Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive. For me, he was still doing something to help bitcoin remain on its ground or be stable. Satoshi can always affect the price of bitcoin becaus of the amount that he has but he has never done it. He was working on the background to make the lives of other better. He deserve credit or a an award for his greatest invention, bitcoin.
Of course Satoshi still alive, well he anonymous user so i think he enjoys the vacation every day because every year's bitcoins always making a new high price. Well maybe at future will he show up to public, we don't know that only time & god know the true
7143  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MARKET NOW on: May 12, 2018, 05:41:49 PM
The market is slowly recovering up to now. Some alts are experiencing nice bull runs up to now. This would be the best moment of all coins. Once it fully recovers, nice pump to all.
Yeah we know the market try to recover but this MT GOX Its making the backup more slowly, Regarding news we have some bad news some korea fud + 8000 BTC selling from addres MT GOX this dumper never stop i think will have 10-15 Round dump by MT GOX
7144  Economy / Economics / Re: Any ideas of what we lack in crypto world? on: May 11, 2018, 07:15:14 PM
Keeping it simple is the most required aspect in my opinion. There are huge people out there who are getting confused about Bitcoin and on the top of that, they create misconception in their mind about Bitcoin.

Sadly, 6 out of 10 people hear about Bitcoin through the scam projects and it not only creates a bad impression among them but also somewhere it restricts them in learning more about it and that is dangerous. I can understand rejection after understanding anything but in this case, they are not even keeping themselves open to understanding the whole thing and they are relying on what government and media are telling them.

Damn you are right, at my country on Indonesia monthly they thinking bitcoin it's just like a gambling game or like Ponzi scheme. They don't know what future we can bring into a real life with blockchain technology. My Bank Sentral (BI) It's telling too Bitcoin a dangerous investment too.
7145  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: May 11, 2018, 07:12:18 PM
People see crypto as a legal currency that's why they want to pay taxes on it, I don't know why govt. is not thinking about it.
Govt. should regulate crypto and if somebody gain some capital from crypto currency then he/she will be liable to pay taxes as fiat currency.

Well, taxes it's not always about Cryptocurrency. Government doing some tax its for like public service purpose and other think to manage the country as well. Imagined if country without Tax. I think that country will be bad at the future
7146  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin as savings, emergency needs possible? on: May 11, 2018, 07:08:13 PM
That is what I am doing as well, I am saving for future and fund for emergency purposes, so that I can have something to get in times of need, and it is something that we all should need to have. Make this thing a habit, save for future and for emergency since we don't know when we need money the most.

Good decision, well mostly iam its not working right now, all my saving in cryptocurrency iam just cash out some money went i need that example like Bills electric and other think. Still believed Cryptocurrency its a good investment for long-term
7147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LYM] Lympo - Monetizing sports and health data via blockchain on: May 10, 2018, 06:05:25 PM
now LYMPO.IO has been successful, and all LYMPO.IO members are cheerful and smiling, all the hard work has paid off, here I am waiting for an interesting program in this project, hopefully all the hopes and loads have been lost, thanks LYMPO. IO for the benefits given
If you intereting about Lympo and other program try look APP Lympo at Q3, Lympo have some Challange too for you healthy lifestyle like gym and other think. Try see Boxmining & Tony G they making some challange for 100k Lympo. and you can be part like them get some reward 50k lympo.
7148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Expect price to go up or price down? on: May 10, 2018, 06:00:26 PM
depending on where you are. and surely everyone has different expectations. if you are a person who wants to buy bitcoin, then you would expect the price to go down, why? because, of course you want to buy it when the price is low. different from you who want to sell or who is holding bitcoin. surely you would expect bitcoin price to go up, because you want to get a big profit from the price you have bought before.
Simple if you want to buying/selling just dont some research news & try predicted with technical analysis but rightnow seem like Bitcoin phase sideaway iam not see about Bad news more than a month so i thinks with a few month maybe at agustus/september can break 12k-15k and going to next level if the trend continue.
7149  Economy / Economics / Re: Why people dump their Bitcoins ? on: May 10, 2018, 05:54:35 PM
The reason they throw it away may be because of panic and fear the bitcoin price disappears into panic then sells everything .. but it's their right to throw it away even though it's actually a wrong move and usually it happens with new people who are not too far away to know the benefits of bitcoin or know the market situation .. if they want to ask or can find info about bitcoin movement I think they will think again to sell it .. and if the reason is sold to buy other coins to trade or just sell little by necessity or need money, it does not matter .. because having bitcoin is everyone's hope and should be put to good use to grow or become more profitable ..
Yeah we know some people its panic, but its because the market condition. if you can using some indicator for predicted the price market well i think you will try to sell and buying again at dip phase / panic phase

Your panic = my profit
7150  Economy / Economics / Re: Panic selling can contribute to bitcoin price going down? on: May 10, 2018, 05:51:56 PM
Panic sellers are the reason why the price of the bitcoin is continuing to dump. Panic sellers have weak hands because they do not know when is the right time to sell their coins. It is better if we have a lot of knowledge for us to not panic even the cryptocurrency market fall.
Well some people only just follow the trend market, Example like daily trade they will sell and saving some USD if the market already confirmed down with some technical analysis, this its not about panic seller. its about the market we just follow the trend market
7151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN][PoSToken]First PoS Smart Contract Token[Lending Platform Available] on: May 10, 2018, 05:47:49 PM
There is a swap going on as I think the lending platform expires next month and same with the main site.

I found a discord for getting an airdrop of a new project with a swap for PoSToken holders here https://discord.gg/4BG2PBP
Yeah some community with a new developer want to making some new project then focuses swap into postoken holder because the developer already out of the project maybe, just hope got a good news
7152  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Waspada skema HYIP/Ponzi "Gainmax"! on: May 09, 2018, 08:20:25 PM
para pemain gain max mana ini klarifikasinya...?
 dan liat di postingan ini ada yg koment bitconnect,klo menurut saya sih,harus paham projectnya dan alasan harga naik karena apa harus masuk akal.meskipun bitconnect banyak yg kalah juga di akhir,tp sebenarnya juga banyak yg menang juga.yg penting paham rulenya aja

Maksudnya gimana menang & kalah ? Bitconect dibuat dan dijalankan oleh Anonymous Developer tidak ada yang tau dalang dibalik itu, iyah saya tau maksud anda ini, gapapa bermain ponzi scheme asal tau resikonya. Thread ini hanya menghibau untuk berhati - hati dengan investasi semacem itu. Kita tidak tau kapan Ponzi nya untuk berakhir sapa tau baru invest 3 hari sudah menghilang.

Kalau sudah ada investasi yang aman, kenapa harus investasi yang lebih berisiko.
7153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN][PoSToken]First PoS Smart Contract Token[Lending Platform Available] on: May 09, 2018, 08:15:24 PM

What about the future of eBTC, Like a body organ left by the head, can not walk as normal / normal headless. Such is what will happen to eBTC for the future. I think it will be difficult for eBTC to go up before dev back again.

Just thinking maybe they can hiring some other developer, long time ago i see eBTC making some partnership, some community eBTC have strong faith at eBTC project. Well just lets see about that project on the future maybe have some good news
7154  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Waspada skema HYIP/Ponzi "Gainmax"! on: May 08, 2018, 06:45:28 PM
Wah, saya baru tau kalau "Gainmax" itu bohong, sempat tergiur waktu itu ada temen ngajak invest kesitu, tapi saya tolak,
Saya pikir seperti MLM2 gitu, rupanya lebih parah lagi,
Semoga teman saya tidak dibohongi lagi ini, saya perlu sampaikan ke dia.

Terima kasih infonya
MLM & Ponzi bukanlah hal bagus untuk bisnis yang diikutin sebisa mungkin di hindarin saja apabila ditawarkan seperti itu. Kalo mau investasi cari yang benar benar memiliki sebuah jaminan bahwa Investasi yang kamu lakukan aman contohnya suatu semacem Produk.

Belum ada seminggu lalu saya melihat mobil yang lumayan mewah bagi saya melintas di depan saya. Tapi ketika saya lihat di kaca belakang mobil tersebut ada tulisan "Gainmax". Apakah memang benar benar Gainmax sudah tersebar di Indonesia? Karena di wilayah saya itu bisa di bilang masih perkampungan tetapi banyak pensiunan. Apakah saya memang harus menyebarkan berita tentang Gainmax ini ke orang sekitar wilayah saya.

Kalo hal ini sudah biasa, contohnya seperti Bitcoinect sampai ada kantor di daerah saya cengkareng buktinya tumbang juga. Dan saya temui di facebook sampai ada yang photo dengan logo bitcoinect. hal itu hanya untuk mengiurkan bagi member baru saja untuk masuk dalam referal mereka sehingga leader dapat keuntungan.

wah, ini sangat fatal kalau keluarga dekat bisa terjaring..
tentunya seperti yang disampaikan pak BitRentX selain mencederai nama Bitcoin di kalangan masyarakat.
nama baik kita juga dicedrai oleh kabar yang sperti ini, apalagi Gainmax sampai positif membodong semua investasi yang join.
maka malapetakanya menjadi dua kalilipat.
tentu sangat layak untuk ditindak lanjut, dan saling memberi penjelasan ke pada orang orang sekeliling.. tentang hal yang berbau hyim/Pinzi seerti ini.
supaya, jangan sempat rakyat setempat tercemari dengan perusakan nama baik bitcoin ini.
thanks juga buat pak BitRentX udah berbagi infonya.

Memang benar hal ini bisa berdampak dengan citra Cryptocurrency, Ponzi Scheme yang mengatasnamakan Cryptocurrency bisa membuat citra Cryptocurrency menjadi buruk. Contohnya kan bitcoinect yang bisa dijadikan suatu berita bahwa Cryptocurrency sangat berbahaya.

duh ini neh lagi hype, di tkp ku juga rame bahkan investnya gak main main ampe puluhan juta
aneh yah ponzhi gini berkembang pesat di Indonesia padahal udah banyak kali money game kayak gini gagal dan merugikan banyak orang
jadi ingat era MMM juga soalnya temen main gitu juga  Grin
Sudah jadi hal biasa itu mah gan :v terkadang seseorang lebih mementingkan keuntangan ketimbang kerugian finansial jadi tidak memikirkan dampak yang akan terjadi.
7155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN][PoSToken]First PoS Smart Contract Token[Lending Platform Available] on: May 08, 2018, 06:39:41 PM
Just FYI new devs also left the ebtc project. That's why it is at like 10 cents atm.

Really developer of eBTC leaving again from Project ? Shame on him well atleast the developer its just leave. Old dev leave the project and dump his token more worst on that problem. Hoping can rise again for eBTC
7156  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 05, 2018, 08:06:02 PM

Mungkin harga nya berkisar $370 gan, mengingat kedepan nya akan ada hari besar seperti natal dan tahun baru. Untuk $400 agak nya sulit ditembus gan untuk situasi tahun ini.

Harga apa ini kalo boleh tau ? Bitcoin 370$ ? Anda hidup ditahun berapa sekarang gan kalo boleh tau, Saat ini Bitcoin berada pada 9500$ ++ dan hampir breakout ke 10.000$. Saran saya tolong untuk research terlebih dahulu sebelum melakukan posting sehingga setiap penguna forum tidak miss informasi.
7157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOU]Lend the network - Airdrop - MasterNodes - Cold staking- Instant loans on: May 05, 2018, 07:59:03 PM
I bought some postoken tokens in October last year. It was a terrible experience. POS developers are still alive, but he doesn't answer our questions and does not explain why the POS has been falling. I'd like to know how to exchange my postoken for DOU. I hope this exchange can help me recover some losses.
The reason postoken down its because the community its voting to make a lending program. they dont know the effect with a few month from Lending and its a bad choice. thats why iam out before lending started really dont like about lending & ponzi
7158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN][PoSToken]First PoS Smart Contract Token[Lending Platform Available] on: May 05, 2018, 07:56:46 PM
We have to revive this project, I think, and we do not wait for the development team to do so. It is best to seize the opportunities. I found that we can introduce them to a new exchange site by voting only
By comment $POS
ON
https://twitter.com/OKEx_/status/992351475287261185?s=20

The Current Holdings of the dev make it impossible to revive this project.. no dev will continue working on this project with that amount of holdings so the only options for postoken holders is to support the current community take over (DOU Project)
We do not need to continue to pay attention to this project. After all, everyone does not have much POSToken, and basically the development has also given up, so we should pay attention to new projects. This coin is a waste of time.

For airdrop participants its easy to move on for this project. but for investors that believe in the new technology on ETH Blockchain staking its a big deal for them, that's why they need to work together to help the takeover team to atleast have hope on their investment.
Anyone should understand that investment is risky. There is nothing wrong with trying to save the project. But for so long, this project is basically hopeless, so there is no need to continue wasting time.

Yeah we know that investment on cryptocurrency its a risky, but atleast we can try to save the project with some guy have blockchain experiement and the power of community same happen like eBTC.
7159  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tips Mencari ICO yang tepat on: May 04, 2018, 03:37:47 PM

Karena manager bounty juga merupakan salah satu faktor yang memungkinkan ICO tersebut bisa sukses atau tidak. Karena Bounty manager adalaj orang yang membuat rule agar promosi dari ICO tersebut mendapatkan viewer yang tinggi sehingga memungkinkan datangnya investor semakin tinggi. Dalam ICO, eksistensi manager bounty tidak bisa diremehkan, begitu pula dalam hal mencari bounty.  Shocked

Bounty Manager gak dijadikan sebagai patokan, contoh TOKENOMY Bounty Manager tidak terlalu terkenal , Bounty alokasi gk begitu besar bahkan sangat kecil tapi buktinya bisa sukses. Semua tergantung Projectnya sendiri, Marketing bisa dilakukan dengan banyak hal tidak cuman bounty saja.
7160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Help with investment choice. on: May 03, 2018, 05:09:41 PM
Try look at ADA, TRON, KCS ( Maybe ) or you can buy at ETN they have some news right now Buy around 300-350 Sat for ETN its a good choice. If ETN Got bullish movement can be 3-5x investment with a few weak or month
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