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7161  Economy / Lending / Re: Want 0.2 BTC Loan with Collateral and Escrow on: December 31, 2018, 08:58:06 AM
but what if the person changes password i am allowing this also
Yes of course you will allow that because your intention is to use those as something to get some "free cash". After you are done taking the loan you will visit the support sections of the sites and claim your accounts to have been hacked, give them your email address and they will rest you the password because you requested so. At the end of the day you reclaimed your "collateral" and got some "free cash". Hooray! Isnt that a nice way to scam people?

Princess, We have been on internet for a long time , we know how you little kids act.  Grin
7162  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which is better option for trading Bitcoin or stocks ? on: December 31, 2018, 08:52:32 AM
Do both. Find profitable trade depending on the market. I'm talking about the technical aspect as it's better to make money when the market is having good volume, enough to move the price.
A person who has a background of the stock market trading would may or may not like the way cryptos are traded. While stocks run for a few hours everyday cryptocurrencies run for 24x7 and its more difficult to keep track of. People who are going to margin trade on platforms like bitmex have to keep countermeasures in case there are heavy swings in price while they are asleep.

Then again a basic understanding of stocks can give you an edge in the crypto market. The concepts of FUD and psychological panic situations are similar there as well. However manipulation is somewhat less there.
7163  Economy / Economics / Re: welcome bulls , Bye bears on: December 31, 2018, 08:48:22 AM
Cheers for those holders who have high patience for them to continue to hold their bitcoins. The market is now recovering even the progress is slow. There is a high possibility that it is now the start of bull run.
There will always been hodlers who can hold since the first days of bitcoin and fend of trolls and no-coiners who try to dissuade them or bring down their morals. That is why the hodler community is strong and built on hardship and nerves of steel. We can see the gradual green moves which are bringing the bitcoin price up and its a good time for the people who bought at the low to sell some and have a sign of relief.

Let us hope that the new year brings in more green to the market and an uptrend with the upcoming ETF if any of them get accepted and then we can all be ready for the next phase of bear or bullrun.
7164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: On what kind of gambling you got maximum reward from betting? on: December 31, 2018, 08:41:59 AM
It really depends on what type of gambling but we are not going to see new games everyday so we need to follow the strategies to find where we have better odds of winning and more money,Do you have any experience in getting more rewards that is what I have asked for.
Fact is even if there is a new game for a site, it will have house edge and the casino is obviosuly going to try to make money from that new game, because that is what they built it for. So it will be at the end the same as any other EV- game.

Only this is that people get bored of old games and are always going to be attracted to a new game, while the delusion that they will ace that game. We all know that the casino is the one who will ace the game, still people will play. Some games appeal to some specific people while others are going to find it boring. Its a personal choice and not always about profit in my opinion.
7165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can we make Crypto go viral? on: December 31, 2018, 08:37:15 AM
Bitcoin has expanded and become a currency that is always debated because it cannot be controlled and values fluctuate so that bitcoin is always unstable.
Debated because of the so called connection of being a source of offshoring money. The US government is afraid bitcoin would take over the traditional fiat banking systems and thus they are willing to do anything to stop it from becoming popular. Unstable price is due to the demand and supply. It is not directly related to the "promotion".

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By re-promoting bitcoin, it will again be a great debate in various sectors.
Promoting it in the proper manner of how federal banks can be cleaned off their sheets with a bitcoin based economy would actually be good for the crypto space.
7166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is less stable than some ALTs ! on: December 30, 2018, 08:12:41 AM
I think that altcoins are a big force and in the future Bitcoin will have less and less influence on the market.
Said like a proper shitcoin maximalist. I wonder which coins you are bagholding and how much of the koolaid you have been drinking so that they could brainwash you to this extent. Roll Eyes

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I believe that in the future altcoins will be able to develop regardless of the situation with Bitcoin.
"Forks" of some system does not go far. Bitcoin has in several times proven its worth and its properties of censorship resistance, universality  and immutability. It will always be above the altcoins no matter what happens in future.

People of the bitcoin forum need to start studying the bitcoin whitepaper more often than listening to fabricated lies of altcoin "devs".
7167  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to survive on: December 30, 2018, 08:04:55 AM
Whether it is a bear market or a bull market, it should be profitable. We should continuously improve our investment strategy in our investment. Of course, investing in a bear market is relatively more difficult, so we should be more cautious and don't invest too much at once. Smiley
I seriously doubt how much you know about the market, trading and how long you have been in cryptocurrencies. Or maybe you are just posting nonsense to get your post count quota done for that day.

Bullish markets are good for those who are bagholding coins for a long time and are impatient to cash it out and dump them all. Thats how they are going; buying at low and selling at high. That would not be the time to buy though.

Bearish markets are good for buying and stockpiling coins which you hope are going to make bullruns in future. Its like prep phase before the selling.
7168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does hard work in gambling count? on: December 30, 2018, 08:01:45 AM
Gambling is something which you make money on the spot or lose 100 percent of your money .
There are many games which has a "Surrender" method or "Investment" like in BlackJack. However thats not the most popular game out there. In the context of dice rolls though this is correct. Again for sports betting you could try to arbitrage your bets and make a profit by the spread of the bets on different bookies.

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Many of games does not require any strategy and are purely luck based games. Some of the cards games do require strategy and experience which will help you to win the match .
Skills may be there but luck will always be there to make you lose. Wink

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Instead of hard work one should be doing smart work and decide which is better game which will give better chance of winning.
I believe the people who are going to gamble are far from "smart".
7169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Perspective about HODL. on: December 30, 2018, 07:58:40 AM
I don't know if HODL is right or wrong, but now I have no choice, what else can I do besides HODL?
This helplessness is going to make people do the wrong stuff. I know it feels bad but those who have bought at the wrong time have nothing to do but to hold and gradually grow impatient. Its important to maintain patience here because this is time when the market is testing its traders. Weak hands will be weeded out while strong hands will be winning.

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When the cryptocurrency in the hands suffered a big drop, selling them is meaningless to me. All I can only continue with HODL.
You can also lock up your assets and leave them for a year or so. It will help you manage the panic with holding and also not waste your time checking the price every few days.

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This is the situation for most of us now. We cannot change the weakness of the market, but we should maintain the necessary patience.
That is the key at the bear market.
7170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can ETF Decision make a negative impact? on: December 29, 2018, 09:46:11 AM
not only for ETF, but all big instance can also make the negative or positive impact for bitcoin if they tell about something new about bitcoin it will very affect the bitcoin condition. fake news and real news always affect the bitcoin
The market is affected by news but the weight-age of that news is also important. Some news will manage to move the market by a greater extent  than other news. Its what the effect of psychological impact the news has on people's minds for those who are into the market. Its better to let the ETF be as it is. If it gets accepted well and good, if it does not well nothing to worry.

nope, it would rather boost up investing.
Better get up with knowing the news on the market before commenting my friend. Previous ETF denials affected the market badly as per popular demand. To what extent they were influenced by those specific news is still a matter of debate.
7171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the most trustable and famous gambling website? on: December 29, 2018, 09:41:43 AM
In choosing the right online gambling site we must need to know what are the background, feedbacks and advabtages of that site. We must know a specific site is legit and very good in terms of earning.
Background is alright but feedbacks will be biased by users and competetitos. There is no way to verify a certain feedback against a site for its legitimacy. A person who lost money by gambling may just leave a bad feedback but does that mean that the site is a scam? Again a fake pumping review can also be posted. In my opinion reviews are often abused and biased unless you try the site yourself.

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There are no most trustable and there are many famous gambling site. You just need to choose the right one that can give you such good and huge profit.
No gambling site is going to provide you with a huge profit by doing some charity. Its called the risk vs reward scheme my friend. If you are unlucky you will lose your money in the game.

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For me, when I choose the best gambling site I set on my mind that I need to make huge profit and choose the legit and best site.
You guys need to stop shilling that specific casino. Its making you all look like a nutjob bot spammer group.
7172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bullrun will always come , Newbies do your research well on: December 29, 2018, 09:36:41 AM
Experts are not light in the darkness because they are spreading false,known analyzed information for guys who like to listen  them on TV.

First experts are called experts by the people because they give some valuable information. But people should not take them as financial advisors but take their words with a bit of salt. Remember that they are financially backed to support projects and promote projects even if they say they are not. It does not cost them to lie in front of people, obviously. So one should be cautious while listening to them because the actual market making is known to them but they wont reveal all the info.

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Long term investing is profitable because markets work in cycle that grows exponentially.
Long term is always the safer bet. In short term you can ride a pump and exit to make some quick cash as well.
7173  Economy / Economics / Re: Who are benefited with cryptocurrency? on: December 29, 2018, 09:31:53 AM
Many people are saying that traders, whales have benefited with cryptocurrencies, obviously, they have. But if you see the whole world has generally benefitted and will be benefiting more in the upcoming future.
You could become a whale too if you have the appropriate funds at hand and you know how to grow it. Its not just the whales but also the people who are close to them. They are also from the whales about certain market movements and are thus above to take opposite measures to makes money.

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People with cross country need for the transaction, organizations with a high amount of money requiring a secured transaction, all these people will be benefitting from cryptocurrencies.
That is if both the countries have no problem with the local law enforcement on crypto. You dont want to transact with countrymen where bitcoin has been declared illegal would you? But I am sure some people will find way to pull the wool over their eyes.

very one get benefit from this market.even unskill people could earn money from cryptocurrency market.we could work in bounty campaign that provide much money to us.
Unskilled people will only gather a shitton of shittokens. The so called bounty whackjobs are a bunch of farmers from low income countries who dont care about the projects and make it look like a pumped up hyped project for nothing. They are the scum of this forum.
7174  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can I still get wealthy through Bitcoin? on: December 28, 2018, 09:32:03 AM
Entering the market in this time is the same as the early investors who have got a high profit in the previous year. We have to invest as much money as possible for a brighter future. It is sure that a time will also come on us which the early investors saw.
Be careful at what price you are entering my friend. You dont want to accidentally buy at the tip of the small pump and then watch it dump after you buy only to send you into panic mode minutes after you have bought a chunk. This can be avoided by watching the market charts and setting your own buying levels. Watch how low the market is dropping and then set buy orders accordingly.

of course you can be rich in bitcoin. besides that bitcoin can't make you rich, but by using it, you certainly can do that. but it's easy or not, depending on how you manage and use the bitcoin.
Using bitcoin wont make your rich. If by using you mean spending then "using" it will make your overall holding lower thus making you poorer. Grin

7175  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is less stable than some ALTs ! on: December 28, 2018, 09:26:40 AM
I have no concern about bitcoin, even though the condition of bitcoin is not stable but bitcoin is more likely to survive and have a better chance of growth in value.
Bitcoin has survived this long it only shows the faith that people have in it and its power to survive in dire situations. Users trying to fork bitcoin into shitcoins never really did good in the economy and those who have tried to copy the concept into making another bitcoin failed to do so. All these should spark hope in the minds of the common people who are eager to know about it or are bag-holding tons of bitcoin for future moon.

And don't you know that investing only in bitcoin is not a competent management of the investment portfolio and every self - respecting investor always divides his Deposit into bitcoin and 50% of savings in altcoins. Cool
You are not aware of the truth mate. The amount of altcoin diversification that you want is obviously your own personal decision but to keep your portfolio worth your time and money better to keep alts at the least possible amount.
7176  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HODL IS THE BEST OPTION FOR ME NOW on: December 28, 2018, 09:22:38 AM
I think so. for now it seems very suitable to buy back and HODL until the new year seems to be bright
Watch out how much you are actually buying back because the market seems to be facing resistance at the level above 4k and support at the 3.8k level. I would rather buy if I have to at lower levels than 3.8k because if the bottom drops its going to be crashing back to 1.5k as per popular news but I believe its a bit of an exxageration. A better low would be 2k for now.

Lets hope the new year Summer shows some green movement and if not that at least in increasing trend in price would not be bad for the traders in general. I am sure many people are getting bored with hodling for long.
7177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: On what kind of gambling you got maximum reward from betting? on: December 28, 2018, 09:16:43 AM
I got not maximum from single bet but seeing the ROI i am having big profit from sports betting, as in sports betting you can control your bet and even cash out before the result is their. So this all options gives me profit let it be small but when i calculated in long term my profit is all time high against my betting loss in dice, casino gambling.
Sports betting does give the chances of combining your bets into a set of parleys which have the good thing of giving you a big multiplier on the total wagered amount but also has the downside of being a big loss in case some of the bets are predicted wrong. Its a risk vs reward scheme like in any other luck based games.

You dont get that chance in dice though because its one huge multiplier at one bet and it has a very low chance of hitting by itself. Here again the EV+ system of sports betting has the upper hand.
7178  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make money with bitcoin price dropping? on: December 27, 2018, 08:47:10 AM
as far as I know, they only take advantage of the increase that occurred after the dump occurred. well, indeed it is a difficult and risky thing, but I also did it and made a profit at first, before getting a loss.
You can do short sell in the bear market and buy back when the price drops even lower. This is coming with a large amount of risk as well so better be prepared for sudden bounce backs when you will in a bad position with nothing at hand to sell in order to cover your loss. Again the wiser thing to do in case you are in not in a hurry and have fresh cash at hand is to buy at the drop and then hold it for a better price to sell.

Not every dump is preceded by a pump. Thats the general notion but exceptions are there. Sudden dump without any pump will bounce back hard.
7179  Economy / Economics / Re: Will BTC beaten in the future? on: December 27, 2018, 08:38:19 AM
Crypto currency seems to cold down these days
You are projecting unknown variables into something that does not need that variable. Being "Hot" does not mean its worth it every time. Being "Cold" does not necessarily mean its worthless.

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and many people have lost faith in the past few months...
When did the opinion of some shitcoin bagholders start to make an impact on ther entire crypto economy? Roll Eyes

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People find most token are fake indeed, what they have was just a whitepaper.

I think most of them will die in the next year.
Ok so you are referring to shittokens. Well for those I am neutral because there are divided opinions. Your call.

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But what about Bitcoin?
What about it? There is literally nothing to discuss because the price of a certain asset denotes the demand supply imbalance. Nothing more nothing less.

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As the first and the most influential one, Bitcoin is still weak with numerous restrictions.
Like what exactly?

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Maybe it will fall into the ground due to the political factors, or beaten by other token which is better.
Bitcoin has been made in such a way that it is censorship-resistant. I think thats what you were referring.

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Huh Only time will tells.
It already has dictated the demise of fiat. Grin
7180  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Perspective about HODL. on: December 27, 2018, 08:32:11 AM
Its wise to HODL only coins and token you are sure will survive for years and mean business in what they do ,with good roadmap and serious team behind the project then nothing can go wrong so do some serious research before you decide to HODL.
Thinking that nothing can go wrong is the wrong step in investing your money. You have to take into account possible risks associated with any asset as well. Not that it matter for bitcoin though because we all know that its going to go up in future even if some idiots in this forum claim it not to because they suffer from delusions of grandeur.

But this risk assessment must be done for new ICOs that people wish to put their money in. You never know which team is going to divest their funds and run away leaving you hanging. HODL is definitely not for them.
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