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7181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: make no mistake... this is a revolution on: March 30, 2013, 08:48:56 PM
I accidentally prematurely posted while still editing.

Well, I might still make changes to OP.


You prematurely elucidated?

hopefully.
7182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: make no mistake... this is a revolution on: March 30, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
Comrade Lenin?  Shocked How are you???


fuck that, I'm a capitalist.
7183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: make no mistake... this is a revolution on: March 30, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
I accidentally prematurely posted while still editing.

Well, I might still make changes to OP.
7184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / make no mistake... this is a revolution on: March 30, 2013, 08:38:15 PM
make no mistake... this is a revolution

This is what I want to tell the power-elite and their puppets, the bankers and politicians:


YOU FUCKED UP,
THANK YOU.
WE'LL TAKE IT FROM HERE!

We are taking things in our own hands now: we are introducing a new kind of money. A free market money. We welcome all other sorts of money to enter the competition, the free market for moneys.
  
Ah, Bitcoin: It really is the peoples money. As Gregory Mannarino says: you have to be your own central bank. And that's what Bitcoin does: it enables us, the poeple, to be our own central banks, to take control of the medium of exchange and store of value we use in our lives. This doesn't mean we control the money supply in any direct way in the case of Bitcoin... it just means it's outside anyones reach to control it... a sound money.

Us bitcoiners, we are not fighting the establishment. We live by the rules as far as we can and are not aggressive. We just happen to use our own money, thanks.

Consider Bitcoin: Bitcoin is not about accumulating wealth, it's about freedom: freedom of economic interaction and freedom of speech (those are interdependant: you can't have one without the other).

Consider the economy: The economy consists of the people participating in it, not some corporate monopolists. So the performance of the economy should be measured in the happyness and well-being of the people, not some aggregate value called GDP.

Consider our current monetary system: The central banks of this world are executing a "race to the bottom" between their FIAT-Currencies in order to keep GDP up (among other things), causing severe distortions in the otherwise functioning economy. Misallocations of capital continually produce bubbles and false price signals. Saving (setting aside money for later) is made impossible, hence money is not withheld from immediate spending (not because of the immediate need for products/services, but because of artificial inlfation). Manipulatd interest rates send false signals to the economy to do the wrong thing. The economy is sick... sick with a bad kind of money.

Consider how far this fiat-money-regime has gotten us already: there are puppets of the power-elite installed in parliaments in Europe. A blatant disregard of democratic values. These "technocrats" are not elected by the people of the respective countries, yet there they are shaping policy, legislature and the regulatory environment in general. Manipulating the rules that govern the police and the military. They put these puppets there to execute their will. They just do it with no legitimation whatsoever for us to swallow. They don't care about us. They don't represent us. Hell, they don't even respect us. They don't care.

But I care. I represent myself and respect myself and care about myself. And I think most of you care about yourselves and represent and respect yourselves. If speaking to a broader audience I could probably say: Some of you just don't know what to do at this point. Some of you might not quite understand the Internet and Bitcoin as what they are: a tool to be used by the people to take back control. And I'm not talking about the internet of Facebook and Google, those have become surveillance tools. I'm talking about the internet that nurtures creativity and cultural development. I'm talking about the internet that enables you to find like-minded people distributed around the globe. I'm talking about the internet that allows anyone to publish without fear. I'm talking about the internet that allows people to have communication in private and the internet that allows us to share what we want to share. I'm talking about the internet that allows everyone to give money to anyone else... in private, with no oversight, regulation or accountability. I think this is a basic human right: the right to engage in voluntary [economic, social, sexual, intellectual or whatever kind of] interaction with other poeple on a self-chosen basis that is not governed by anyone but the participants themselves.

Consider what the regime will do next: Surveillance of every aspect of your life is prevalent. The war propaganda machinery has been started. At the end of most fiat currency regimes, there is a war. It's used (among other things) to cover up the scam and keep it going one more time.

I don't want there to be a fucking 3rd world war... and I don't think most of you do, either.

I think there's a way to avoid it: if we transition to using types of money that are not controlled by the power-elite quickly enough, they simply wont be able to finance a war.

State controlled capitalism is called fascism. What do we call capital-controlled statism? Well whatever it is: it's sucking the motherfucking life out of us and if continued will end badly.
  
The era of the Nationstate is ending... The era of the corporatocracy is ending,... actually the era of aristocracy or whatever the structure of the current power-elite is, is ending.

This is the era of the people. We are now in the unique situation to be able to take back and defend our basic human rights, for example the right to privacy both of individuals and of groups they might form. The Internet and cryptography empower us to do this.
The right to privacy, both in being and communication, is a privilege I am not willing to give up and one that I want everybody to have.
Cryptography and the net give us the power to exercise this right... we just need to actually do it.

I don't want to be a serf,.. a slave, told by some institutionalized asshole how to act and think. I don't think you do, either. I don't want to be controlled by mass-channeled propaganda. And I don't think you do, either. I don't want to be constantly monitored in all my moves and analyzed in all my emotional state and thoughts. I don't want to be controlled, I want to be free. And I think you want to be free, too.

So what to do?

Here are some rules I wish I would live by:
  • keep educating people about bitcoin and what it really is, freedom of speech, freedom of economic interaction.
  • try to live a prosperous life. seriously: look after yourself, then look after others.
  • don't work for or support more than necessary the government, police, military or monopolist corporation.
  • actively select the sources of your information, talk to people, connect to their hearts.
  • be open to everyone but critical of any information you receive
  • keep the internet alive and as free as possible for as many people as possible
  • use Bitcoin as much as possible
  • offer goods and services for bitcoin
  • help others to understand and accept Bitcoin
  • encourage others (and yourself) to trade, perform services and/or make contracts among individuals
  • don't evangelize Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not a religion, just the currently best solution to a problem. Emphasize on currency competition and freedom of the people.
  • sell your bitcoins to anyone who wants to buy, but don't forget to re-stock
  • don't follow a leader, think for yourself
  • think... and feel... and be....
  • we are one world, all connected,... act accordingly and responsibly.
  • be not afraid, the greatest fear we have is fear itself.

All these cryptographic functions do not ensure your personal well-being per se.
All this digital gold does not make everyone equally wealthy,..
But what this cryptographic type of money does is to enable a functioning economy that serves the people who constitute it.
Those other problems will have to be fought in a differnt arena, not that of money.
  
I truly believe Bitcoin and the Internet empower us to ensure our freedom, well-being and prosperity of both the human culture/society and also of each of the individuals constituting it.

We just need to act accordingly...

  
We need to be the change we want to see!
7185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 30, 2013, 03:32:01 PM
Does anyone else enjoy the eerie quiet?

7186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Unexpected interest in Bitcoin from random people. on: March 30, 2013, 11:42:33 AM
Was at a birthday part 2 weeks back at a friends. Met some very old friends. 2 years back I was there, too. Noone was interested in bitcoin back then (although I kept blabbering on about it).

This time the interest was much higher. And they came asking me.

Other friend who I've been basically pestering to put some money in bitcoin since 2011 (he never did) now wants to buy on the next crash (lol) and is asking me all the questions. He admitted he didn't believe me when I said "this will be big".
7187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 30, 2013, 11:37:49 AM

I don't know. Best ask in bitfinex thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119745
 
7188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 30, 2013, 07:53:14 AM
Poor bears...



poor irrational bears:

7189  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL SC Pre-Order Information on: March 29, 2013, 11:38:55 PM
my order number changed from 7040 to 7171

this happen to anyone else?

where do you check your order #?
7190  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] LocalBitcoins.com - a location-based bitcoin to cash marketplace on: March 29, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
Because the escrow fixes the price. If price rises until I meet the person, I make a bad deal (I cannot restock because I can't be sure the customer will show up). If price falls, customer might just not show up, which is also undesirable.

If I could use a formula (like in the ad) for the price, I would use the escrow.


Ah, there is that. Lately I've just been making clear that the exchange rate is locked for better or worse from the time of contact, and then buying coins at that price on Coinbase.

So if the price drops and the customer is a no-show you've made a pretty bad move.
7191  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] LocalBitcoins.com - a location-based bitcoin to cash marketplace on: March 29, 2013, 10:38:35 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately none of the trading partners I've dealt with so far have been on OTC.  It's mostly newbies just trying to figure out how to simply get some bitcoins and avoid some of the fees and hassle of BitInstant.

I understand that LocalBitcoins needs a way to earn revenue, so I can see why they would require a payment (such as the escrow fee) to participate in their rating system.  It would be nice though if I could pay a small fee for a membership that allows me to provide feedback when I don't use escrow.
The same for me: I did many good trades on localbitcoins and I still have 0 feedback  Undecided  Im not on otc.
There should be a better rating system.

If you're fine with paying a fee, why not just use the escrow?

Because the escrow fixes the price. If price rises until I meet the person, I make a bad deal (I cannot restock because I can't be sure the customer will show up). If price falls, customer might just not show up, which is also undesirable.

If I could use a formula (like in the ad) for the price, I would use the escrow.
7192  Local / Presse / Re: Presseberichte / Bedeutsame Erwähnungen on: March 29, 2013, 09:19:04 PM

Marktkapitalisierung: Bitcoin knackt Milliarden-Grenze

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Marktkapitalisierung-Bitcoin-knackt-Milliarden-Grenze-1832819.html


... verstörende Kommentare

(Jahre alte Argumente gegen Bitcoin, nicht genug für alle Menschen usw. blablabla - sie lernen es nicht. Bis das Voba Bankkonto >100k eingefroren wird oder die EZB druckt wie blöd. LOL mich weg.)

Im Kopf vieler komentatoren geht unterbewusst in etwa folgendes vor: Da gibt's 2 Typen, den Denker und den Beweisführer. Was der Denker denkt wird der Beweisführer beweisen. Der Denker denkt: "Ich hab keine Bitcoins, also ist das ein Scheiss und wird scheitern" und der Beweisführer findet alle möglichen Beweise und Argumentationen dafür, daß Bitcoin ein Scheiß ist und nix werden kann. Somit fühlt sich der Mensch wohl... bis der Beweisführer halt irgendwann mal so arge Probleme mit dem Beweisen bekommt (weil die Fakten immer erdrückender werden), daß dem Menschen ganz übel wird und er dann doch Bitcoins kauft Wink
7193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 29, 2013, 08:38:26 PM
Gox is an absolute disgrace when you think about the amount of money they must be making, are they all too busy swimming in a pool full of money or what?

While I wholeheartedly agree with you, yesterday was a DDOS, so it's not impossible that today is as well.

Might also be the case that some people suffer from being marked ddos source by prolexic.
7194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 29, 2013, 06:03:35 PM
Much of the new ask volume is due to large walls between 150-600.


Hmm, a bear could just add 1000 coins for sale at 1,000,000,000 to manipulate that chart.

But lol at the large walls, some one must expect this to really pop.

Didn't I just read some claim that on Gox you can put 1000 walls 1000$ each as long as you have $1000 on Gox? And if you withdraw your $1000 your walls wouldn't even disappear? I mean yes I was also bullish for these charts but with them not having anything to do with the actual money available how would I even be able to tell how much money I will get when I sell my dollars when all this is fake? So who's providing false info? The wall posters or those who claim the falls may be fake?

I think some users have tested it and found it not to be the case.  Plus, if you could, we'd see a LOT more than just 10mil in bids.  People would be manipulating the frak out this.

I've tested it. Invalid orders (those without enough funding) don't show in the public order book. Incidentally managing the order states when users balance changes (by trade or deposit/withdraw) is the cause for the engine lag.
7195  Economy / Goods / Re: 1OZ SILVER MAPLE LEAF / CHECK BEST PRICE IN OP on: March 29, 2013, 01:57:35 PM
One way would be to have the sender sign a message with the private key of the origin address.

How many % can do this? I cannot  Cheesy

I was more like thinking: "take a random number 1-999 and PM it to me before you pay. Add that number of satoshi to your transaction to prove you sent it".



I believe the "correct" way to do this is to generate a new public address for the transaction (though presumably you could reuse old ones). Though if your method is working, why mess with success?

His method saves one loop in the ordering process and therefore speeds it up considerably. He doesn't need to be online and answering people with an address when they order. I quite like the system and I might actually use it for my casascius sales at some point.
7196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How governments could affect the bitcoin economy on: March 29, 2013, 01:54:08 PM
They could set up a paper system to trade BTC's - like they have for trading commodities, they control pricing with this system - this is why Gold and Sliver have not move vs BTC
 

Why would people trade the paperBTC at all when transaction cost of BTC itself is so low and it can be traded already? The only reason the paper games work with metals is the fact that you can't just send metal through a wire.
7197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How governments could affect the bitcoin economy on: March 29, 2013, 01:52:58 PM
What motivates my conjecture is the need for economies to be buffered against wild inflationary or deflationary swings, which are good for no one. Right now, the government does it by deficit spending or adjusting money supply.

A purely unbuffered economy is subject to great swings due to people's anticipation. This is a fundamental fact about human behavior that has nothing to do with bitcoin in either a positive or negative sense. It's just a fact of economic life regardless of what the currency of medium of exchange is.

Since governments can't simply create bitcoin out of thin air, there would be a desire for some form of buffering or shock absorption against wild speculative swings.

Where is this coming from? What evidence is there that "unbuffered" economy will experience wild swings (in moneys buying power I assume). I'm of the impression that it's the money printing that is causing wild booms and bust cycles, and misallocation of capital.
7198  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 29, 2013, 01:45:32 PM
Of course we're going down.  Look at the tasty depth on the bid side.  Tons of USD available to buy -- ~$1.5m above $80.

at least you got your currency pair the correct way around Wink

I'm selling some USD.
7199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How governments could affect the bitcoin economy on: March 29, 2013, 01:02:16 PM
It's often said that governments can't touch bitcoin, which is true with respect to ownership, but they could still affect it economically acquiring or releasing large amounts from/to its citizens. Think of it like gold reserves. If gold were still used as currency, the government could affect how much was in circulation by throttling its spending to the public.

Governments could acquire large reserves of bitcoin by taxation (yes, people will still pay their taxes) and throttle how much goes back into the economy thru spending, or maybe even giving it away to people when they want more in circulation. The important thing to me about this is that they can't just print more. They have to acquire it the way everyone else does, by buying and selling.

You mean by taxation (some call it theft)?

I'd still not like this very much, but as you see: at least they can't print it. So I'm all for that. Forces them to be prudent in spending and will shrink government. A good thing.
7200  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitfetch - Anonymous Remote Torrent Downloading on: March 29, 2013, 12:07:22 PM
Dammit Bitcoin, where are you going?

Cost per GB has been reduced to 0.003 BTC.

ha, awesome... about 20 minutes before I submitted a job.

Thanks for a great great service, btw. It's pretty much perfect.
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