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721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BC.Game 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: February 09, 2024, 10:45:05 AM
Salah didn't train yesterday, so Saturday's game comes too early for him. Son should play though - just not sure whether he'll start or come off the bench.
I kinda expect him to start and then to be subbed off after 70 min or so in case Tottenham have a good result at that point.

Thank God he's back, I can't stand people collecting points on Richarlison.
722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 07, 2024, 07:22:38 PM
You guys really stay up past midnight to submit BSFL answers? Damn, did not see this coming Grin

I like the hard discussions, I'm sure Trofo does as well. Whenever money is involved the tempers might rise a bit, give us your worst, we can take it.
Just be sure that all we do is for the benefit and longevity of BSFL and that we also sometimes miscalculate, make a mistake or simply fuck up. We don't hide behind it, openly admit it, try to explain our reasoning and make improvements for the future.

Again cryptofrka,  I don't see how I'm the 2nd most beneficiary of free points.  Most people in division 2 got 6 free points,  like 3 -4 persons if I'm not being wrong. I don't know how you counted Kanapka match as free point to me  when I literally won that due 6-3,. Matter of fact,  that game put me on goals disadvantage because 3 goals was deducted from me because Kanapka disqualification.

Everybody got points from Kanapka. The other free points are:

Trofo 9 (vs Saint-loup, Igebotz and bullrun2024bro)
chi20 6 (vs famososMuertos and bullrun2024bro)
bullrun2024bro 3 (vs famososMuertos)
ulven 3 (vs dbshck)
ralle14 3 (vs Ulven)
Strongkored 3 (vs dbshck)

So - we cannot change what happened with Kanapka's points. Some people got points after a loss, some after a draw. But if we remove Kanapka, you are the one that profited the most after Trofo from free points.
723  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 07, 2024, 09:59:18 AM
Problem kod untraceable assets je što predstavljaju trn u oku svim regulatorima. Vjerujem da je Binance upravo zato i odlučio delistati XMR da im regulator ne bi mogao prigovoriti da trguju s untraceable kriptovalutama. Taj "trn u oku" me uvijek odbijao da uložim u XMR ili neku sličnu "anonimnu" kriptovalutu jer ne znam kakve su mogućnosti zabrane od strane regulatora. Jasno mi je da ne mogu "zatvoriti" Monero ali možda mogu nekako zabraniti korištenje i držanje. Nisam se nikad previše pozabavio istraživanjem kako Monero radi te što se može, a što ne s njim pa zato i nisam siguran kakve su mogućnosti njegove zabrane. Evo jedno konkretno pitanje... Zašto svi autori crypto-lockera traže otkupninu u BTC, a ne u XMR? BTC je traceable, a XMR nije. Sumnjam da ljudi koji rade crypto-lockere to ne znaju.

Kažem, to je samo hunch na kojeg ću baciti dio love koju daj bože donese ovaj bull run.
Nekada se činilo ludo misliti da BTC može vrijediti 100k$, iako ja oduvijek stojim iza one svoje 'milijun dolara ili ništa' teze po kojoj mi kripto napokon rješava život.

Monero vidim na nekakvom sličnom trajectoryju, ne bi me čudilo da za 5 godina bude na 15k$. Imaju jak dev community, dobar tokenomics i prošli su test of time i biti će prvi izbor svima koji žele privatnost.
724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 07, 2024, 09:50:27 AM
...

You really did investigate this thoroughly Grin

As casperBGD said, this question was really unlucky as well but we allowed it because there were still 2 available outcomes, not just one like in this case.

So I don't really get this. Maybe, I would now recommend to rule out any possible questions that settle within 5 hours of deadline. If truely we care about people with timezone difference, this is the most fair.

Not really applicable - it is quite hard to put questions on Sunday for Tuesday. If we were to have another 5h buffer, we wouldn't be able to have a lot of questions (example Tuesday's Champions League).

The solution is simple - in the future we will just explain in advance in which situations the questions are void and in which they will be graded.

I understand a lot of you are upset, but you are kinda looking at it from a skewed perspective. A lot of people used VAR anyway, so the 'point advantage' you see when you look at the spreadsheet now would probably not be there anyway.

Bottom line - stuff like this only makes us better, so we'll find a way for things to work and be even more transparent without ruining the experience. Trust in the process Grin
725  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 06, 2024, 10:49:51 PM
Djelomično imam teoriju po kojoj će Monero kad-tad pratiti Bitcoinov rast cijene i doseći njegov trenutni market cap.
Što se više bude diralo u kriptovalute koje je moguće pratiti, to mislim da bi se mogao dogoditi taj switch na untraceable assete.

Nemam XMR, nisam ga nikad imao, ali privlači me ideja da počnem graditi dugoročnu (5+ godina HODL) poziciju.
726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 06, 2024, 10:44:57 PM
Though, I think that we had similar case when of tennis players or Ronnie O'Sullivan pulled out from tournament before deadline and question wasn't voided. Offcourse, I may be wrong.
Anyway, not blaming Cro2, there is just so many aspect to consider when they make questions.

Yes, that was the one!

And I was on the wrong side of it because I didn't see and apparently someone even posted the news on this thread, but it was not voided. I don't even remember whether or not I lost the round or not because of the question or not, I really don't care about that. I really just want a one house, one accord stuff as usual here, not having people pointing one finger out with 4 circling back and all that, it's a great job folks are doing here and if we start having people throwing double standards accusations, we won't be here for longer than we have been.

Nope fellas, that was Q7 of Season 3's Round 5 and was voided. You can check it in the spreadsheet.

This makes the most sense to me then, of course I'd agree that it doesn't happen often.

However, I understand how hell a of tough job CRO2 is doing, and I don't undermine that, but possibly if we can eliminate this kind of scenarios all together would be better going forward ? Scenarios where the first game doesn't get started or have half of it settled before the deadline, because I'm there are a lot of cases when the first question is a H2H question and then there is about 1-2 question settled of a possible 4 or 5, it still put us in a situation of having a few with an unfair advantage especially if they can make the most of it and their time zones still permit them to submit just in time before the deadline.

Yeah, we usually really try to do that. With some sports and/or events it is unfortunately impossible - so we took a risk to include Asian games.
The odds of Korea going through to the final were like 1.30 or something like that, and this time it went against us.

The time for the match was already set when the questions came, so this scenario should have been known by everyone who did the job of checking the match.

This was a chance Cro2 took even though they knew this could happen, but with only 2 rounds left, all the questions are very important that we can't have questions that become void (although there is always a chance of that) but this question should have remained.

I first took South Korea to score 4 goals or more, then I changed it to 3 goals or less then finally I changed it to NO and sent in my answer😂

Yep, it is shitty that this happened so late in the season where every point counts. We voided such questions before, so there was only 1 road to take.
We'll put it in the rules for next season and try to make bulletproof questions - but then again sometimes it just isn't possible.
727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 06, 2024, 07:38:10 PM
Before or after the questions were posted, everyone who read the questions would know that South Korea had two games, and one was definitely bound to end before the deadline, which means there was already a possibility of answer coming before then, we can't be voiding questions because a question doesn't fit into a time zone when the deadline already itself would surely have some people on the rope, and Tennis after football is our second most sport here and the time zones are never static, I remember missing a question where my candidate had even pulled out of a tournament before the deadline, and was replaced and the questions was never voided, I would never say that was preempted, there are just some scenarios with grey areas not just black or white and we'll always have them in an as much these are circumstances beyond our control.

In my candid opinion, I don't think this question should be voided because of time zones and the nature of a question of we've had American and South American questions and from my time zone none of have been earlier than 1 in the AM, I threw in my answers early with a Yes, because I felt that was the best, and my cls63 my opponent answer came in according to spreadsheet around when the match is almost 85+ mins, and answered Yes, I don't know if he also used a VAR card, but if he didn't, that means what we are trying to prevent is not going to be possible because there are some answers here that most of us don't even bother to look up, to be honest what with question is almost a scenario we've had always in some Tennis, Handball or Waterpolo questions where vast majority of us needed to wait for a possible scenario before submitting, I would ask if South Korea had won the game today 4-0, would the question had been voided if everyone with a no answer decides to call VAR because all South Korea would need left is to win the finals by any means necessary which would have a more probable than not answer ?

I'm pretty much fine with void call to be very honest, as it is a generally fair decision, but it also kinda eliminate the needs for VAR all together because this was one of the scenarios that brought about it's implementation to begin with.


It isn't voided that much because of the timezones, it is voided because there is already a correct answer available before the deadline.
If South Korea won 4-0, it would not have been voided. Then we would see who would use VAR, because if they won 4-0 there would still be 2 options available - to win with 4+ or not at all.

Whenever the question isn't fully settled, we're leaning towards rating it. But when there already is only 1 answer, it means more sense to void it.

Bottom line - sometimes we will have to make decisions that some people will not agree with. It really does not happen that often though.
728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BC.Game 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: February 06, 2024, 07:25:33 PM
I finally wildcarded and my team looks so much better. I know I fired the gun a bit too soon and that I might be paying for it when it matters the most, but I just couldn't keep it up with the team that I had.

I have a good plan for the next 4-5 GW's, the only thing left to see for me is whether Salah returns on time for GW25. Won't make a difference if he does though, I think all the league will have him.
729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 06, 2024, 07:04:38 PM
I don't know why this should be voided,  if we didn't void answer for option when I player is on bench and later didn't play the match or even when a player wasn't even in the lineup and not on sub aswell,  like the case of last question when Jesus wasn't even played and its was counted,  why void this one . What then is the advantage and lucks we are talking about.  This question should never be voided for any reason since it was played .

It is different. When a player does not play, we sometimes purposely make it like that so it's risky to pick, or to give advantage for those that investigate. These games are settled after submission deadline.
We wanted to give advantage to Asia games question as well to those that wait for the result of the first game, considering that Korea was a big favorite we hoped they would win. Considering that we have the correct result to the question before deadline, it's best to void it and we have done so in the past.

Why even have the question? It is something that we try to balance, it's the final this weekend and we risked with it a bit because we wanted to cover the final game.

I have to say though, didn't we have questions in the past where big seeds didn't even make it past deadline, and people who put them in anyway still had their picks marked? Not complaining at all, of course, I 100% support it being fair to those who're even asleep now to see the result.

I don't recall accepting a question that was fully settled before the deadline.
It's a shitty thing to balance to be honest, in tennis it can happen that 1 out of 5 for example already gets kicked out. We would let that one be counted.

P.S. Say no to Cro2 free points!

I object to this! I haven't gotten any so far and I really need them!

___________________________

To be honest, we're the last ones that want to see it. It's funny that Trofo's got most of them (Chi20 is the 2nd one, so not really sure why he's the one complaining the most) - but we said that we won't be notifying anymore.
You can all still tag or notify, considering that bullrun2020bro (who actually changed his name to bullrun2024bro which I just see now so maybe he even didn't get the tag) was bottom of the league, there was always the risk that he wouldn't submit.

We would like to ask all of you to keep it fair until the end, this is a specific H2H competition in which a failed submission leads to unfair advantage.

There are 4 Division 2 players with 2 points penalties (Saint-loup, famososMuertos, bullrun2024bro, dbshck), we really hope they will all submit in the last round.
Failure to do so won't kick them out to Division 3, but fully out from BSFL.
730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BC.Game 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: February 06, 2024, 09:44:38 AM
Yeah, it's gonna be tricky to pick 3 City assets going forward.
I'm actually considering going with KDB, Foden and Alvarez - it looks likely they will all be starting.

Foden is still selected by only 27% of players, so he might be a good differentiator. Haaland is at 63% already.
731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 05, 2024, 10:55:22 PM
P.S. Playoff question has Girona instead of Granada Wink

Damn you, hairsplitters! And nobody was there to see we're missing penalties in the last round!
It says Girona only for the cards, it is clearly a typo - we meant Granada of course.

That question was also labelled as "require answer" to submit form, even though it was explicitly stated that it is solely for Div3. I had to enter a random answers to submit the form. Not a big deal anyway. Just saying Cryptofka should stop sleeping on duty.

More safe like this, if it is required they cannot skip it by accident. I just put N/A, whatever you put there is ok - we won't be rating it anyway.
732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 05, 2024, 10:03:42 AM
soory, I was entre My answer, can you delted My answer if there are problem for us

No problem, you can always play for fun or for a sidebet with someone from the community.

This year the break for some of the Division 3 players is a bit too long, yeah - but there was no other way to do it considering that there are 4 less rounds there than in Divisions 1&2.
733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 04, 2024, 11:04:17 PM
You made a minor error on question #9 between me and @dbshck, mine should be marked with red colour while his should be green but instead both of us were marked with yellow but the point calculation is correct though with both currently at 3 points

Fixed! Not sure what happened there considering that the score was correct.

Pro Bowl ended, NFC (Eli Manning's team) won 64-59. They actually lost the flag football game by a big margin, but were better in most of the events throughout the week.

I calculated everything tonight so that the freebets get settled tomorrow, @jeremypwr hopefully I'm not too late for that.

The freebet winners are:
Division 1 - vd309 (40$ freebet)
Division 2 - Trofo (30$ freebet)

Division 3 has no freebet winners during the playoffs.

Trofo will update the Division tables tomorrow. Not much changes at the bottom of Division 1 - out of the 5 bottom teams 3 lost and 2 drew (darxiaomi and myself).
734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 04, 2024, 09:22:24 PM
We're waiting for the Pro Bowl game to finish, so the results will be known and league tables updated tomorrow throughout the day.
That also means that this round's Division 1&2 freebets won't be credited this Monday but probably in 1 week's time.

2 more rounds to go! Do you feel the pressure?

Questions for the Round 14 are here!

The deadline is February 6th, 18:00 GMT.
This week is all about football, with Superbowl addition of course.

Division 3 playoffs look like this:

MAAManda - goodpunt
shogun47 - Jinetics1111

Once again, I'm tagging just the ones that have something to play for.

Code:
casperBGD
Harkorede
mv1986
vd309
cls63
jayce
leea-1334
slackovic
LTU_btc
mitchr4
jeremypwr
buwaytress
Slissy
darxiaomi
slaman29
cryptofrka
notblox1
chi20
Trofo
Saint-loup
Igebotz
hakan2217
vivekdkhyani
ulven
arallmuus
dbshck
strongkored
ralle14
Renato297
bullrun2020bro
Kanapka
famososMuertos
entebah
PedroCunhaYori
ILuckyGuyI
LFC_Bitcoin
Jinetics1111
goodpunt
shogun47
MAAManda]
casperBGD
Harkorede
mv1986
vd309
cls63
jayce
leea-1334
slackovic
LTU_btc
mitchr4
jeremypwr
buwaytress
Slissy
darxiaomi
slaman29
cryptofrka
notblox1
chi20
Trofo
Saint-loup
Igebotz
hakan2217
vivekdkhyani
ulven
arallmuus
dbshck
strongkored
ralle14
Renato297
bullrun2020bro
Kanapka
famososMuertos
Jinetics1111
goodpunt
shogun47
MAAManda
735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BC.Game 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: February 04, 2024, 09:19:39 PM
I just checked and the only confirmed teams with a Double GW for GW25 is Man City and Brentford. Liverpool and Chelsea do have a blank week after that though.

The Liverpool-Luton game has been rescheduled to February 21st, which would put it in GW25.

Will be tough to navigate GW25 and GW26 without losing a lot of important chips - but it does seem like a GW in which you go all in for points.
736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BC.Game 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: February 04, 2024, 08:01:19 PM
No reason not to start KDB, and even if he doesn't start - he's playing for sure.
I have him and Alvarez, I still feel that Haaland will start from the bench. A lot of players have him as captain, so I hope he plays a mediocre 30 mins and gets you all 2 points Grin

I captained Watkins, so a bad Haaland performance would make me catch up a bit.
737  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 04, 2024, 07:54:34 PM
This disqualification means only 3 relegation slots left in Division 2 and no relegation playoff right.?

Means 3 slots left, 2 direct and 1 into playoffs. Kanapka is taking the 16th position - everything else just continues like he finished last.

_________________________

All but the Pro Bowl question has been rated, you can check your results - some winners are already known.
We were extremely fortunate because we forgot to include penalties for the Division 3 playoffs - but neither game needed them. They will be included in the next round - I can't believe that nobody noticed it.

Even before the last question is rated, the winners of the Playoffs quarterfinals are known. The current results are:

entebah - MAAManda   1-3
ILuckyGuyI - goodpunt   2-5
LFC_Bitcoin - shogun47   3-5
PedroCunhaYori - Jinetics1111   3-6

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darxiaomi - I have a feeling that I'm winning the Pro Bowl - which will leave us with a draw for the round. You still have a chance to win it though.
One of my worst rounds and I'm deservedly in a tricky situation now.

We will post the questions in an hour or so, we need to triplecheck everything so mistakes like these don't happen once more.
738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 03, 2024, 10:47:48 PM
Damn you Bayern. Leverkusen led twice in the "most goals scored" side-race but Munchen got the final say. Well done Slissy, you really have the advantage now. Just need Liverpool to smash tomorrow and I won't care about this round's results.

Yup, this cost me as well - I'm one of the rare ones that picked 'equal' so that Sane late goal cost me the lead.
6 questions over, I'm still to collect a single point. Darxiaomi took his first one with that Bayern pick today and I'm in deep shit.

USA coach is in the NHL All-star final, so that one's now 50-50 as well. I need a break there..
739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 03, 2024, 08:33:51 PM
We'll have a Superbowl question as well of course, so investigate it properly fellas.

Thanks to SB and jeremypwr for this fantastic promo, whoever plays wins so no reason to skip this even if you have no clue about NFL.
740  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🏈 Super Bowl 58: Prop Party 🏈 [30 mBTC in prizes + Europe Trip] on: February 03, 2024, 08:32:29 PM
1. Yes
2. Under
3. Over
4. Yes
5. Heads
6. No
7. Rush
8. SF
9. KC
10. Sack
11. SF
12. Yes
13. Yes
14. No
15. No
16. Yes
17. Over
18. No
19. 3
20. No
21. SF
22. SF
23. KC
24. SF
25. Purple

Tiebreaker: 31 points
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