The original post at: https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4102.msg39143#msg39143PEERAPPS NOW OPEN SOURCEhttps://github.com/Peerapps/PeerappsNote it's still in Alpha, and requires v0.5 of PPCoin Core (which has no released binaries, so you must build it yourself). Development is ongoing, with focuses being on: - Changing Peermessage to have two message types. One will have a low level of anonymity of receiver, which means not every client will have to download it, and be super cheap. The second will be more expensive, and have complete anonymity of receiver, and require all participating clients to download it to check if they can decrypt it. - Work has begun on a light client that will not require Peercoin Core to be running alongside it. Its primary target is mobile devices. These clients will not be connected to the Peercoin network, but will connect to super nodes that will dish back parsed data from the blockchain upon request. The data will be signed, so the light clients won't have to trust the super nodes with anything other than censorship. - Another application on the Peerapps framework.
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Original post at: https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4086.msg39105#msg39105Sunny King My view on the issue at the moment: 1) There is no way to prevent ppl from stuffing data to the blockchain if they insist. This is somewhat due to script system (one might argue that even without the script system data can still be encoded in address or send amount). The only real discouragement of data on blockchain is the transaction fee. I am talking about general principles here, I have nothing against peerapps using the feature on peercoin. The idea is so long as fee is paid, it's considered okay. And users of this feature is actually being graceful to the network by not encoding data in obfuscated ways. 2) From bitcoin/peercoin core point of view, these probably can be pruned immediately from unspent set. Note pruning does not remove it from blocks. It's still on the blockchain and can be retrieved from blockchain at any moment albeit with higher access cost. 3) I would be very cautious modifying the bitcoin script system, due to the issue that maintaining such modification can be expensive long term. So one needs strong argument why its benefit is so great. 4) The proposed system of declaring different expiration to the network isn't quite consistent with my view that transaction fee is the only guard on data flood. It kinda suggests that fee alone is not enough, that additionally the network still expects you to be 'nice' and let nodes prune you more quickly.
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点点币v0.5.0版将支持op_return小数据交易功能。届时,Peerapps的点点信和点点博客也将同时发布。对此,点点币社区有人员提出,由于每个op_return交易会增加80字节的空间,将来某个时候也许需要对区块进行修剪。对此问题,加密货币名家Sunny King先生发表了如下看法: 我目前对这个问题的看法: 1) 如果人们坚持要用数据塞满区块链, 世上不存在办法能阻止人们这样做。这主要是由于脚本系统(有人可能会争辩说,即使没有脚本系统数据仍然可以编码在地址或发送量中)。唯一真正能阻止把数据存放在区块链上的是交易费。在这里,我说的是一般原则。我并不反对Peerapps在点点币网络上使用op_return功能。我的想法是,只要支付费用,就被认为是可行的。而op_return功能的用户实际上对网络是得体的,因为不对数据编码,要是编码就会引起混淆。 2) 从比特币/点点币核心看,这些大概可以从未花费集合中立即修剪掉。注意,修剪不能把它从区块中删掉。它仍然在区块链上,并且在任何时候可以从区块链检索出来,尽管要较高的访问成本。 3) 我对修改比特币脚本系统持非常谨慎的态度,由于这样的问题即维护这种修改可能是昂贵的长期性的。因此,人们需要有强有力的论据,为什么修改的好处是如此巨大。 4) 声明不同的过期期限以便修剪这种所建议的制度不是与我的观点十分一致,我的观点是交易费用是防止数据洪涝的唯一卫士。这个所建议的制度有点暗示着,仅靠费用是不够的,还额外地网络仍然希望你是'优雅的',让节点更快地修剪你。 原文: https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4086.msg39105#msg39105作者:Sunny King 附上sigmike的回帖如下:
我认为这里最重要的是这一点: "2) 从比特币/点点币核心看,这些大概可以从未花费集合中立即修剪掉。注意,修剪不能把它从区块中删掉。它仍然在区块链上,并且在任何时候可以从区块链检索出来,尽管要较高的访问成本。" 首先,修剪并不意味着我们缩小区块链。一些节点必须永久保留可修剪的数据,不管是否有特殊的标志。这是必需的,以便新节点能验证区块链。如果区块链丢失任何东西,你就无法验证它。 当我们谈论可修剪的数据,我们的意思是,一个客户在用它们来验证一个区块后可以从自己的区块链拷贝上把这些数据删除。他不需要这些数据来验证未来的区块。但自此之后,他不再是一个完整的完全节点了,因为他不能提供完整的区块链给其它节点。 其次,任何不使用这些可修剪的数据和不保存完整区块链的人,都可以在接收到可修剪数据之后把它删除。因此,一个标志是没有必要的:可修剪数据已经意味着只要你愿意你可以随时删除它。 这个标志可做为一个暗示,暗示节点应该保留它多长时间。但这一决定更多的是他们要当完全节点的意愿多大的问题,而无关发出者或数据本身。 原文: https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4086.msg39228#msg39228作者:sigmike 译者:happypeer
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Teehe融资期只剩4天 – 成功对皮尔股(Peershares)至关重要
Teehe体育博彩和赌场的融资期即将结束。目前,您只有5天时间研究 招股说明书,商业计划和 常见问题解答。此外,在Nu论坛还有一个广泛关注的 问答线程。 Teehe将通过创建纽比特的第一个真实用途而不是投机炒作来支持Nu。它还将把利润用PPC分配给股东以支持点点币。这将标志着皮尔股模板的第二个主要用途,并通过一个 工具的制作,让你轻松地创建自己的皮尔股上的DAO/DAC,从而打开将来更多用途之路。我相信,这个项目的成功融资是至关重要的,以帮助扩大皮尔股。这意味着,在这最后几天里,全靠你的帮助推广。如果我们失败了,这对皮尔股的打击是多大?请你每天抽出一点点时间,帮助宣传。 我个人觉得这对纽比特,点点币和皮尔股都是一个重大推动。他们的计划是经过深思熟虑的,他们以非常透明和专业的方式走近这整个事情。我看到的一切都让我相信它最终可能是一个巨大的成功。加上这样的事实,你有值得信赖的我们社区的Teehe幕后的人如Peerchemist。 需要募集的最低金额为$90,000,在3月25日的最近一次报告的金额为$44,149美元。目前未知其总金额是多少。希望这最后的倒计时会制造一些紧迫性。在过去两个星期,我已经在论坛上,在点点币的脸书上和推特帐户上尽我所能推广Teehe。我看到Nu在推特上也做了同样的事。 我希望在这里其他人也将在这最后几天以同样的方式和对你相信的可能感兴趣的人传播Teehe。如果我们没有从社区得到一些额外的推广上的帮助,那么有可能我们不会达到筹款目标,这一切都将完全是一场空。让我们来防止这种情况的发生,达到应得的成功! 原贴: https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4038.0原贴作者:Sentinelrv 译者:happypeer
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Completion of second week: We are proud to announce that contributed funds stand at $44,149. Crypto portfolio: 19,792 PPC 17,501 NBT and 73 BTC The 10% bonus will only be applied to investors who participate before the $60,000 milestone is reached. We are glad to see funds doubling every week, Teehe is growing stronger as more people recognize our project. Regards, Teehe management https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=3999.45第二周已经结束: 我们很骄傲地宣布,到位资金已达$44,149。 加密货币组合: 19,792 PPC 17,501 NBT 和 73 BTC 在$60,000里程碑到达之前参与的投资者才能获得其投资额10%的红利。 我们很高兴地看到每周资金翻倍。随着更多人认识我们的项目,Teehe正成长得更强大。 致敬, Teehe管理部
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Completion of the first week of the IPO: Contributed funds stand at 11,042.30 PPC, 1500 NBT, and 62.99 BTC Amount contributed at time of contribution $22,518 At current market prices approximately $22,150 https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=3999.msg38469#msg38469IPO第一周已经结束: 实缴资金 11,042.30 PPC, 1500 NBT, 62.99 BTC 缴款确认时的金额 $22,518 按当前市场价的金额 $22,150
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Beside investors, we are looking for developers (python, node.js), web designers, sysadmins, forum admin.
除投资者外,我们还寻找开发人员(python, node.js),网页设计师,系统管理员,论坛管理员。
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Beside investors, we are looking for developers (python, node.js), web designers, sysadmins, forum admin.
除投资者外,我们还寻找开发人员(python, node.js),网页设计师,系统管理员,论坛管理员。
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I nominate Sunny King from Peercoin and Primecoin community. - Sunny King is the first person who implemented PoS in Peercoin;
- Sunny King is the father of Primecoin which has scientific meaning in search of prime numbers;
- Sunny King always focuses on innovative technology and I believe that Sunny King will bring many new technologies to Cryptocurrency in the future.
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I always pay attention to what Sunny King is working on for Peercoin.
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Peercoin will be a real Crypto 2.0. The other coins' so-called Crypto 2.0 is really ridiculous.
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This is great website. Have Peerunity wallet, QT wallet and paper wallet.
Due to the android wallet will be release in few days, you also can put a link on website.
Don't forget Sunny King's Web Wallet which SK is testing.
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I agree with you that Bitcoin is also an altcoin under the meaning of new technology in the cryptocurrency.
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I hope Ethereum is not a scam. But if Ethereum is a scam, there are too many fools in this world.
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I do know that, but that doesn't mean everything works out fine. It isn't even sure if the idea will be implemented into peercoin.
Of course, you can imagine whatever you want. But that's not true. So you know 100% that it will work. And you know for a fact that it will be first implemented in peercoin? I believe it will work. Sunny King: When it's ready, we plan to support both peercoin and primecoin sidechains. Sunny King: My current undertaking on sidechains, might even be tried on primecoin first, due to it's different properties. Although this shouldn't be taken as a promise. So I am not sure it will be first implemented in peercoin or in primecoin.
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I do know that, but that doesn't mean everything works out fine. It isn't even sure if the idea will be implemented into peercoin.
Of course, you can imagine whatever you want. But that's not true.
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