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721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 12:23:29 PM

Anyone got link to how to do this with vpn? Forum is flooded and i can't find it.

In the guide you just set up the masternode computer/configuration on the vpn.

Leave the client/cold wallet on your computer.

722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 03:09:31 AM
Nobody cares about pumps anymore,  people want a coin and technology they can use that will not be defeated by nefarious gov's.

723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 03:05:32 AM
You have to understand that this coin had an amazing launch and captured mindshare quickly, so we are on EVERYONE's radar by now.  Twitter personalities, traders, people into other coins, everywhere.  After scam after scam over the past year, everybody is disillusioned and skeptical.  That's normal.  There is a constant fight for capital in alts, that is the game, that is why we see people come into this thread or popular threads spamming random coins and other products or services.  In the early lifecycle its easy for people with large exposure in other coins to buy up large volumes and dump to try to destroy a competitor.  We just have to weather it and let the tech and ecosystem speak for itself.

We don't need to be going into other coin threads and trolling them or stirring things up.  We don't need that kind of marketing, we already have captured everybody's attention.  They will come here, probably forever, thats just the nature of the game.  Float above it.  Trade smart.  Know how to de-risk your position.  Put your money to work for you.  The volatility is normal.  It will probably continue for some time.  Use it to your advantage.  Look at what a few of our supporters have been doing while all the crazy shit is going on around them - they put their heads together and built a viable business with their adrenaline node service.  Block out the distractions and that is the kind of stuff that is going to pay off in the long run.

In the larger scheme of things in this crazy world, remember we are all on the same side and fighting the same battle.  This shouldn't become a cesspool of coin vs coin bullshit.  There's a line between good natured ribbing, and over the top trolling.  Let's try to stay on the good side of that line please and keep our eyes on the prize.

+1   Grin
724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 03:03:26 AM
Funny how people don't understand even "negative press"  /  discussion can bring spotlight and popularity

 Grin

Thank you trolls & fudders!

725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 01:55:26 AM

Same people said who would use Bitcoin and drive a Harley with no helmet? but I did...and so do many others!


That is pretty talented..  I mean how do you ride a bike and use your phone/wallet to send bitcoins at the same time,  plus with no helmet!  

Amazing!



he should get one of these...http://www.skully.com/#smartest-helmet

Those do look very useful!   Nice !!
726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 01:52:06 AM

Same people said who would use Bitcoin and drive a Harley with no helmet? but I did...and so do many others!


That is pretty talented..  I mean how do you ride a bike and use your phone/wallet to send bitcoins at the same time,  plus with no helmet!  

Amazing!

727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 11, 2015, 01:34:06 AM
This is strictly a speculation coin.  Nobody is going to adopt and use a coin with a skull as the logo.

Yeah, I don't think we would ever use pieces of paper with dead presidents' faces on them either.

That is sarcasm... for people who have a hard time understanding sarcasm Smiley

728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 08:19:37 PM
What is everyone complaining about?  

I bought in at 40k ...  still over 100% profit.

I don't see what the big deal is.  

729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 05:31:15 AM

* minus nem funds = coins held in multisignature accounts by up to 8 people on the nem team for the purpose of nem development(not for team members pockets)



Yeaaaaahhhh  Riiiiiiight ....     Roll Eyes

730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 05:19:27 AM

damn.. you guys have got ... [blah blah whatever]



Then go back to your crappy nem
731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 05:04:14 AM

so effectively a premine* pump and dump?

* - mined extremely fast in first few days is as good as a premine.
If you actually look at the wallets..  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crave/#!rich  you'll see the top wallets are actually the exchange.
Don't listen to fud.


732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 03:35:00 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities.  

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules?   Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals.  For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country?  Fuck no.  Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country?  Yes.

It isn't the coin that is "letting people do things".   It is what people choose to do with it.
Just like guns don't shoot people,  people shoot people.  
So your argument more or less stating that a coin could somehow be a bad thing or behind "illicit activities", doesn't really hold truth.

I wasn't making such an argument.  Very simply put, based upon a few comments by the dev early in this thread, I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin.  If a dev comes out and says, "I'm making this coin so people can break X, Y, and Z laws in Germany" and I lived in Germany, I wouldn't support the coin.  I might want to support the coin based upon my morals, but I choose to fight to improve the world from within the legal constraints of the system.  More power to you that want to fight from outside the system, but that's not the direction I take.

You're missing my point,  a coin does not have intent.  To quote your exact words: "I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin"
The only intention is what YOU decide to do with it.   Hence why it's motto is LIBERTY.

If a dev came out and said, "I have created this coin so that people can launder money to X group" then there is intent.  If that activity was illegal in my country or that activity was against my morals, I would not support the coin even if MY intent was to use the coin to buy Skittles for starving children in Africa.

So your country punishes you based solely on Developers intentions?  
That must suck where you live.  










733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 03:20:50 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities.  

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules?   Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals.  For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country?  Fuck no.  Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country?  Yes.

It isn't the coin that is "letting people do things".   It is what people choose to do with it.
Just like guns don't shoot people,  people shoot people.  
So your argument more or less stating that a coin could somehow be a bad thing or behind "illicit activities", doesn't really hold truth.

I wasn't making such an argument.  Very simply put, based upon a few comments by the dev early in this thread, I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin.  If a dev comes out and says, "I'm making this coin so people can break X, Y, and Z laws in Germany" and I lived in Germany, I wouldn't support the coin.  I might want to support the coin based upon my morals, but I choose to fight to improve the world from within the legal constraints of the system.  More power to you that want to fight from outside the system, but that's not the direction I take.

You're missing my point,  a coin does not have intent.  To quote your exact words: "I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin"
The only intention is what YOU decide to do with it.   Hence why it's motto is LIBERTY.


734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 03:08:28 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities. 

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules?   Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals.  For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country?  Fuck no.  Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country?  Yes.

It isn't the coin that is "letting people do things".   It is what people choose to do with it.
Just like guns don't shoot people,  people shoot people.  
So your argument more or less stating that a coin could somehow be a bad thing or behind "illicit activities", doesn't really hold truth.



735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 03:00:29 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities. 

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules?   Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..



736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:27:57 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 01:01:52 AM

No.  first decentrAlized market in NXT.

I think he meant it's the first one after all those other first ones  Grin
738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 11:22:36 PM
Windows is the real bitch/pain in the ass to compile on.

How do you guys use that shitty os ... if its just for gaming,  go out out and buy a console!

People who got used to windows can manage it just fine and might even feel the same way about linux as you do about windows. I've ran into 4 different errors trying to setup a masternode which took half an hour of googling and trying solutions. I'm not saying one is better than the other, it's just a matter of preference.
And I'd rather not give up PC gaming just be able to buy a glorified media center with old hardware, expensive games and an inferior input device that doesn't even work for a few genres.

I guess...  whatever toots your whistle  Undecided  
There are things I'm not impressed with about linux,  no OS is perfect.   -BUT- I enjoy opensource.

Edit..  also to me,  graphics look pretty damn good on consoles these days..  
I don't need my computer turned into some big box with 10 fans and/or water coolers just to run games lol.

739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 10:29:13 PM
Windows is the real bitch/pain in the ass to compile on.

How do you guys use that shitty os ... if its just for gaming,  go out out and buy a console!



740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 10:23:23 PM

First big  (blah blah)

Who said it doesn't compile under linux?  It compiles and runs just fine for me.  

In fact even the masternode guide on http://www.cravecoin.info is written for linux/debian.

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