I don't find that convincing  because of the name, not like 10 years ago when you hear names like red devils, the blues, gunners that use to scared other teams. They have built much more confident within their name and self and that's why you see minor club beats old teams in a league. Like for instance Inter made it out of the group stage but Barcelona that are know revival of Real Madrid didn't and they even won Laliga that same season, you see how non-linear football is sometimes.

I respect how great Bellingham is to Real Madrid recently, he has become a great asset in Spain but we don't know rival teams that they will meet in knockout stage, quarter final and semi finals. Not to forget that some players are bound to injury. Above all, I will love to see Bellingham win this season Champions League, it will bring a trend to search for more English player just the way Haaland change Manchester City winning mentality last season and now.

You should actually believe him when he said he gambling for fun. As weird as it may sound, we have people that really do that because they have a means(work) that bring all the money they need, there are some gamblers that don't do anything, money comes from their parent business and inheritance and they gamble to catch all the fun they need. If they win, they celebrate and if they lose, they walk out, so there are people out there that gamble all days and night without there money and they are living fine, it doesn't affect them because money for other things are there.

I think the rational behind people about gambling and money is dependent of how expose people are to money. If you have less than what you need, that's when you see gambling as a place to make money. During the world cup, I see someone break TV screen because France lost to Argentina, not because he bet. The amount doesn't worth 1/4 of the amount of the TV and yet he broke the TV, he let's his emotions overcrowded him because he wanted to have fun but didn't went as he expected. That's how fun some players do with betting.

Do you mean Chelsea that is currently manage by Pochettino or there is another one you think that can hold any team hostage if they should play in Stanford bridge? What are form are you also insinuating? How do you define a team that is sitting below top 10? Is that how we rate teams now or you are just been sarcastic about Chelsea. There is not even a "If Chelsea do this and that to Arsenal" because the chance are low.

I will bet my last super on Arsenal with a straight win and at worst predictions, will give them win or draw for Arsenal. You can't look at Chelsea form and think they are going to win Arsenal, they have a slim chance of doing that, maybe I'm not seeing the confidence that you are seeing.


Casemiro has been a good best man in defensive player since his days back in Real Madrid but I think he is trying so hard to keep Manchester United in good place at the expense of his career. He has booked 2 red card in just a year and he never had that kind of bad game in Real Madrid.
Is Manchester United problem really players or Erik and players are loosing it, the available players are been called out for immorality and Erik Ten Hag is beefing with the remain good guys he is supposed to leverage to win the Premier League. If they are going to need more players, Erik is going to need a replacement as well.

What about  gamblers with gambling budget of $100 looking for jackpot they can use to turn around their life. I'm not sure how effective th therapist are to their patients but I will pas. Not like they are going to give money to remove gambling from the eye of the gambler. The majority of them play to make money, how how is therapist going to change mindset of a man that needs money badly.

Maybe gambler that is totally lost it will do, those kind of players need help because having someone completely lost is like trying to revive a mad person to sane person. It is hard job thing to do and I can recommend them for that if they really work and not for some ordinary gambler that is looking two double his last card just to secure food and what he want on the table.

We can't deny how he has also made some money back then on some UFC matches. It could be stake doing there thing or it could be real game but I think that Drake is big enough to bet this kind of amount. My only fear is that if he continues this way, he will definitely go broke in 2-3 years time.

What if that match was rigged not to favor Logan, because for him to publicly display that, it will cause lots of havoc and maybe more people wanting Drake to lose instead of winning that match.

Drake is very popular I must say, I nearly place a bet with his predictions before that match because I was like if drake can bet this type of money with so much confidence, what is stopping you from reciprocating what he did, I wanted to bet that game badly but something stopped me which I'm glad I did, this is the influence of public icon.

Will it be that easy for Chelsea to beat a team that has not loss to any team that effortlessly? They didn't lose to 8 good teams they have met in tbe last 2 months, it's Chelsea that manage to win two minor relegated teams will crush Arsenal, no! I don't think they have the tenacity to bring Arsenal to loss, they don't have that agility to do that yet, meyne just after Arsenal they can do more winning streak bit they are going to succumb Arsenal.

We can say that the league is still early but we are skipping some things. For Chelsea to meat up with Arsenal current standing, they need 4 win in a row to do that and I don't think Arsenal are that daft to stay there if Chelsea can pull that kind of game. Arsenal is ahead of them in all ways.


Depends on how fast De Bruyne and Rodri comes back, don't expect Manchester City to let's go of that standing easily. Last season, they did the same thing when Arsenal was ahead of everyone, I also had the same thought in mind that Arsenal are going to finish the first place but you know that each teams have weakness. The moment other teams knows your weak point, loss is imminent. I hope that doesn't repeat itself this time.

I'm interested at the bolded.
I used to think whenever I tried to used this kind of strategy to get my loss, there is this forces of gambling that is against me, I lose more the more I try to even on my deposits. Sometimes, I think blame myself for trying to recover losses because they don't work, the only time they work is when I least expect it that's when they actually work and I would be like, no way! 
Gambling is stressful too, there is a time to jump off the train when you see that it's about to enter a wrong lane, you will only bite more the remaining balance the more you try to win more.

I selected about 8 basketball matches 2 days ago, they were short all selected options where the lowest lower line any punter would think of, I reviewed the stake and the selected options and they were the least option I can select, 7 of 8 did exactly as I predicted but the last one ruined everything, never had hopes on it but I never expected it to end that badly. I lost the bet and I haven't try anything since that Friday, I wanted to make back the loss but I ignored the thought  and rest because it's help the brain relax. Will try again next time.

I'm feeling nostalgic with your story, it is bringing back some memory of some hardship I ones had back in the days. It's not easy to be a man but again, we must do everything legitimately to survive. From my days of gambling, I have had an adaptation of gambling to be a place where you will lose more money than what you are going to win, this is nothing but the truth. The percentage of people that win more money than what the actually lose are less than 1 percent in gambling.

With this orientation in mind, I don't make mistake of placing more than what will bite me. My work is hard and time consuming on weekdays, so I don't joke with the pay but you know that all work no play will make one a dullard, I must hang out and of them is catching fun with sports and football and basketball will come into play and as a result, betting will ensue. I must bet but there is tiny I will use that will be nothing, that if compare with things, it will not be enough to get me a proper meal.

I know it's hard to take loss and process it when it doesn't favour you but you must accept it and move on but if you must make it quick and easy to forget, don't ever and ever play with the money you cannot afford to lose. It's not a must to gamble your money, if you don't have it quit gambling quietly and enjoy the rest of your life with other activities that will impact your life.

Even if they should come to the forum, before they get the right information, they would have lost all the things that they are assumed to be hidden have gotten to the wrong place. More than half of the population that know or use crypto today all used centralized exchanges because they learn from all the YouTubers and influencers that are always ready to give referral link to get bonuses. This are the wrong orientation new people that comes to the crypto get and the reason why hackers get more victims.

If new people that are joining crypto for the first time right refuse to use centralized exchanges, we can say that the future of crypto is in safe hands but the majority are here for the altcoins that can give that quick gain which are all situated on centralized exchanges, the data collection is not stopping anytime soon I guess.

When I said an ideal and perfect situation, you should know that I was referring to economic on paper, that is what I was trying to describe to OP, the theory to understand. If you are in a science class and you want to understand the behavior of a Gas, it's best study in an ideal situation because that's the best form you can understand it like when they neglect some properties like pressure, temperature and others.

If at all the theoretical aspect of economy does work, I don't think we will ever be in this mess, everything is going to move like how it was been written but again, life is not a perfect system because we are human that are bound to error and mistakes, there are some conditions that are just beyond us that can't be control even if you yield the power to change everything in a day, it will never be perfect.

Another thing is inflation is here to stay, when you give a solution to anything, in the process you create a problem and one that economist create when they define money system is inflation. As long the central banks(FED) print money out of nothing, inflation will always be there.

Basically in a perfect system and ideal situation, there is difference between demand and supply, inflation and deflation and purchasing power.

To increase the purchasing power of a currency, you must make sure inflation is reduced to nearly minimum and how do you do that, you make sure that the dollar in circulation is not in excess, the supply should be slightly lower than demand, that's how you make the economy better. On the other hand, what the central banks do is the opposite of what the economy says. They inject and pump the dollar into the economy, as a result increase inflation which later reduce the purchasing power of their currencies.

Meme on the other hand are just different concept entirely, they make people believe that making a coin deflationary through burning in smart contract will reduce the supply and will increase the demand which will consequently increase the price but that's all lies and lies. It doesn't work, what more can expect from people that have 40% of the total circulation to a single entity, it will never work that way because it seems we are only deceiving each other every day with shitcoins concepts of pump and dumps.

Here is the thing.
Family is a group of people father, mother and children, in some cases extended families all leave together and this is first started by two people. Now, my problem is not about how they start the family but the question is, do you have what it takes to start a family? Why marry in the first place when yiu are not financially buoyant and capable, don't dare bring a child in this world to come and suffocate them with the hardship of this economy. If you must be ready to start a family, the two must be financially stable to start and if you must born, do it on the budget you have at hand, don't litter everywhere with offsprings and come and blame the government for your own choice, that been said.

However, on average about hardship we are all facing, it is indisputable to say that things are right, inflation is worst right now, they are about to announce the new CPI in some minutes as I'm writing this( in 6 minutes) but we even we complain all days, we can't wait for government solution, you are the solution and you need to fix the main thing.

The solution to this finances is to increase your income, double where your income comes from and if you must do extra job to live upto a good standard of living, that is what you must do.

Holding doesn't equate long term, I can hold a piece of bitcoin in my wallet because I want to use it for daily spending, like send from my wallet to another person when I purchase a product, I can keep the rest for spending the remaining days I want and not necessary for long term.


Trading and holding has a minimum amount you can buy depending on the exchange, most likely allow you buy as low as $10 and above.
Trading in this case depends on where you are doing it, if you are doing it on centralized exchanges, it's not as complicated like when you are securing your own wallet where you have access to your private keys and seed phrase, and not advice able to hold your coins on any exchange.


Your first point is valid but need a little salt, just because you hold bitcoin doesn't mean you should not do research, find out other things that are happening around the ecosystem at your free time, these are fundamentals things that contribute to the growth of bitcoin.

Tip 2 is wrong. Cost of transactions on bitcoin depends on your wallet address, the number of inputs and ouput and the how busy the network is in that particular time.

Timing is important in your third tip, what you call long term is subjective also. If you have bought bitcoin last year around January, you will be sitted on a unrealised loss and what is the assurance that it will go to that place next year or upper year, it could go there and then fall due to fear, doubt and uncertainty but buying now in a low market will definitely give you some goody profits by next or 2.

You are just a forum user like me, I don't know your color neither you know mine but we exist here through forum account system, that's the only way Satoshi has communicated with everyone here. He/she could be alive since he last seen here chilling and enjoying his holidays or he could be somewhere under 6 feet. However, no matter his status, bitcoin legacy will continue with our without him because if he as to be alive to day, even him can't take back control of bitcoin because it's fully decentralized, run by loyal communist and belong to the communist.


If you don't understand how open source work, then there is no need to find out, the best you can do to keep his legacy is to buy and hold it, make some transactions to see how pair to pair the electronic digital currency of bitcoin, that's the only way you can feel the impact of the founder. You can also run your own node to improve bitcoin decentralization.

Another you need to know is that, if Satoshi wee to be alive today, he don't can't change anything except he suggested which must come through a proposal, that's why we have many BIP as Bitcoin improvement proposal, toy can write to bitcoin community where you think they can improve and once it's been reviewed and accepted, a day will be scheduled for the soft fork so that all the miners and the nodes will get the latest update on the bitcoin network, that's bitcoin works, no some random place you can wake up to.change anything.

You don't need any of these minor percentages on your assets because inflation will consume all of it when the time comes. Your actual capital appreciation comes from the growth of the value of your assets, not some rate of return by giving or loaning your assets, which may not end well. When I see people giving away their assets to any platform for the sake of a simple return, I get paranoid. Better keep it in a safe wallet.

Forget about any platforms that offer annual or any rate of return because if you don't run, by the time they go bankrupt, you will be the one that will be running after them. I mean it is not too hard to buy BTC or any coin of your choice and hold them, most of these returns are just decoys to get liquidity and trap people not selling their assets by using time to hold them, it doesn't work and will not work because bitcoin doesn't have a bank. The banks used your deposited money for loans to companies, have you asked what this platform used your assets for, definitely to other companies which don't end well, you can do research on celsius bankruptcy.

I don't know why I despise ETFs, but I think it's because they are anti-decentralization because why trade ETF funds when you can get a hold of the original asset? Returning to the topic at hand, Bitcoin and digital gold have nothing in common in terms of price, total circulation, blockchain and security, privacy, pseudonymity, and decentralisation; does gold have something similar? Is there something similar to Bitcoin in the digital goal? I don't think there is any comparison that makes gold any way better than bitcoin and that market cap is nothing.

If Bitcoin was to be accepted as a digital assets, signed pass by all the top countries, do you think gold total market cap is going to be more than Bitcoin. It took gold years and years to reach this value but I bet you that it will only take 5 years max for bitcoin to pass that price in a matter of time, that's how valuable bitcoin is to gold, hope you understand now.

A tractor is too far distant, there is no area in the agricultural industry that does not require oil, both in post-farming and pre-farming operations. You need transportation to move anything in order to farm and sell, you need planters to help you sow the seeds, you need harvesters to harvest your crops, you need implements and machines to process these produce and products, and keep in mind that agriculture is more than just farming crops, vegetables, and plants; it also includes animal production and husbandry, which requires power to their house, the water system and grinders.

Whatever natural resources nature bestows upon you, if you optimise them and make them marketable and in demand, people will come for you; it is all about strategy, but because fossil oil is abundant, some governments have become too lazy to hunt for alternative sources of revenue for their country. Some countries lack both, they lack agriculture due to desert, infertile land, and dry land with no natural resources, but they are blessed with animals, they may have one of the most demanding animals in the world, which may be in abundance in their region, they can still earn a lot of money from it.

This making feel like déjà vu!

There was this time I ranked up to a full member and there was a vacancy on Blackjack signature(suspended), I applied and luckily I was the lucky champ that was picked, I did just a week with the campaign and after I was paid, they suspended it immediately(don't know why till date). We were paid for that month and the amount I received was $37 in BTC, I couldn't believe there was really a service that required your time on the forum that would pay you in BTC but it's worth it for those who are staying here all night and day to talk things about bitcoin and the rest.

I know some developers that do remote jobs and since they receive their first payment in BTC, they prefer to be paid in BTC all the time because of taxes. The taxes take almost if not more than 40% of what you earn before payment reach your destination bank but using BTC, the tax is small compare to using fiat through wire transfers and other payment methods. I know few who also do gigs of graphics designed and receive BTC payment and they prefer it than the usual fiat. BTC payment rocks.

This is touching and emotional, but I want to say a few things, not to discourage you but to make you understand the bump ahead of you and the reality of trying to achieve anything through Bitcoin. I'm not sure how many bitcoin you can afford but in order to fulfil that dream of buying a house with bitcoin, you need to have more money to invest in bitcoin and I don't think there is any job you can do online that can give you such budget to be able to buy bitcoin in reasonable amounts, you really need to have money to make money from bitcoin.

Another thing I would like you to understand is that Bitcoin is not a place where you can make quick money, you can be lucky to make 4x of your investment as some people did in the last bull run but what is the assurance that it is going to happen again, I'm not saying it will not give you return neither am I saying you should keep your hopes high, you need to understand the two and brainstorm it. I hope you also have the mind to hold when the market is bumpy, holding bitcoin can be mentally challenging especially if you are new to it but trust me, there is light at the end of the tunnel, so stick around.

Don't forget to keep your wallet safe, don't keep your coins any centralized exchanges, they are not safe and not ethical thing to do as a holder od bitcoin

This thread reminds me of one guy that pisses me off one time, and to date, he doesn't dare ask me for money anymore. So this guy was hungry and asked me if I had some food packed at home and I told him I didn't have any at home but because he told me he was famished and tired, I gave him 2,000 naira  which was equivalent to $4 then because the dollar was trading as low as 500 naira then, could you believe I later found out that he used the money to bet instead of buying food to eat. He told me on his own how he used the money and I told him I was pissed about how he used the money to bet because he even lost everything, and didn't win anything.

I have come to a conclusion that when someone beg me for money and use the money to bet, they are just eager to make quick money and usually addicted, and the fun part of it is that they don't make anything from gambling. There was this guy that came to me sometime ago, said he was about to win some millions but a match made him lose his game, he think giving a try will give him the winnings, I socially decline him of the money, I dislike people who gamble to extreme to make money out of it; gambling isn't a do or die thing.