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721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 04, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
I wonder why Iconomi team haven't invested in this project if they truly believe that they can create profit and pay it as dividends?
Maybe it's because they are not sure themselves about the success of their project?
My point, this thing is a high risk investment and it'll work well as expected and promised and hoped or it just fails.
I think people firstly entered in this project thinking that they'll sit back and the team will deliver them dividends just like that in the movies(or in crypto lol), they never knew that Iconomi team wants to depend on people using their service and the assets price going up in order to earn profit and then paying the share holders their dividends.

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I wonder why Iconomi team haven't invested in this project if they truly believe that they can create profit and pay it as dividends?
Which project? Don't tell me you mean Iconomi investing in Iconomi, that will put you strait to the top of the podium.

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they never knew that Iconomi team wants to depend on people using their service
They would be only the dumbasses that haven't bothered to read the FAQ. I will bet 1 to 10 that you are one of them.
722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 04, 2016, 08:44:18 PM
There are only a few times in your life when you are 99% sure of a price jump. I have learned by this point to jump at those opportunities. Right now, ICONOMI is that opportunity. I am all in. All my chips are on the table. It is only listed on TWO exchanges and it hasn't even started working yet. There is no way in hell this thing is going to be under a 50 million dollar market cap for long.

Is there any way to see the top 20 biggest ICONOMI wallets?

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI#balances

The first one is Iconomi address, the second one is Kraken

Edit: you are not the only one with all chips on the table
Smiley
723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 04, 2016, 07:19:15 PM
Bitfinex will add probably after all the dividends crap.

And then when Polo sees that Bitfinex has added, then maybe they will especially if they see Bitfinex raking in a lot of fees.

I think this is a 15 y/o logic. At best
724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DECENT Announcement - Decentralizing Content Distribution on: December 04, 2016, 06:33:54 PM
interesting project... watching closely!
I missed the ICO, when will I be able to invest some ?

I think it will take some time until it hits any exchange. Sometime around March 2017?
725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 04, 2016, 12:01:47 PM
If I have 1000 ICN
how much I can get a dividends?

so you bought something you have absolutely no clue about. wish you the best of luck, you'll need it

I agree it is really stupid to buy something that you don't understand, or didn't even take the time to read about.
In that case, though, I think it is OK. As long as one has enough strength to wait 18+ months, Iconomi will bring a very, very nice returns.

I did the same in the last 3 hours of the ICO. Iīve bought 14500 ICN without fully understanding the project, just because I heared the word "dividends". It wasnīt even in my mind that those tokens will be much more worthy than the ICO price was.

Afterwards I was really happy I did, and Iīve bought many many more on Kraken

You're lucky enough to have some 14K of it. I'm still planing to buy some but i would have to cash out some btc later.
I need to confirm though as to when and how much dividends they get.

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I need to confirm though as to when and how much dividends they get.

And what would you mean by that?
726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 04, 2016, 10:01:29 AM
If I have 1000 ICN
how much I can get a dividends?

so you bought something you have absolutely no clue about. wish you the best of luck, you'll need it

I agree it is really stupid to buy something that you don't understand, or didn't even take the time to read about.
In that case, though, I think it is OK. As long as one has enough strength to wait 18+ months, Iconomi will bring a very, very nice returns.
727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 04, 2016, 09:57:37 AM

It's still growing, some serious accumulation going on.

Not sure how much designates a true ICN whale but some big holdings in the top 20.

We don't know how much "whales" we have overall, since 70% of all ICN are still onsite.
I'd say that any amount above 200K can be considered as a whale, and anything above 80K a big fish.
728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 03, 2016, 08:44:24 PM
Just got paid yesterday & I'm trying to buy a good chunk of ICN on Kraken.
How many confirmations does Kraken require for BTC deposits before making it available ?

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729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 02, 2016, 08:05:45 PM

We are going behind the moon. Some passengers will land on the moon, while other will continue to more distant planets in our solar system  Smiley
And on more serious note, this is nice little research you did with those addresses. It proves the general support this project has from the majority of (real) investors.
Cry babies and little "day traders" are inevitable.
I am really impressed how the token had managed to gain value in the last 2 months, despite bitcoin rally and before we even met the first milestone.

Cant fckn wait for OFM. Combine OFM with good PR, legal coverage and add to it the latest political developments in USA, UK, Italy, and all that fiat that is looking for new investment channels...
Moon will be just the first stop of our journey.

Clarification:
When I say "Cant fckn wait for OFM.." I don't mean to apply any pressure on the team as for due dates or release date. I prefer to wait another few months and get a fully baked platform, than an early half-baked product. I am sure the team is on the same page.
730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 02, 2016, 12:08:48 PM
Siacoin is also a candidate. The platform itself is nice, but the coin hase huge inflation because supply isnīt limited

It doesn't have huge inflation. Up to block #270,000 each block reward is 300K. After that it will be reduced by 10 to 30K SC per block. This makes around 3.4% inflation in 5 years, and 2.9% in 10 years.
IN return to that, SIA gets a robust and secured network and is able to focus on the long term growth of its business and ecosystem.

SIA is a very solid project with clear vision that is still bellow the radar. The team is professional and well funded.
If you look at StorJ, they have released only 10% of their total coins so far.
731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 02, 2016, 07:36:17 AM
Another day of intelligent discussion from the savvy investors on bitcointalk dot org...

Those Wall Street guys have nothing on you lot!

 Roll Eyes

1000 pages is no victory when most of it is trash talk!

wtf you're talking about? who said it is a victory??
please, enlighten us with your experience sr. newbie.

There are a number of posts within the thread that are making a big deal about this thread approaching 1000 posts. Please take the time to read, before you ask silly questions.

It is fallacious to dismiss my input simply because I am a new registrant, especially as you only have 70 posts yourself, Mr. "Muhcoins".

Give me two or three weeks to reach 70 posts, and I'm sure I'll be just as much of an expert as you  Grin

This is the sort of stupid shit I'm referring to.
The way I see it, it's very simple: if you want meaningful discussion with the community and with Iconomi team, post on Reddit.
If you just want to kill some time ,or few trolls this is the place
732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 01, 2016, 10:04:04 PM
Another day of intelligent discussion from the savvy investors on bitcointalk dot org...

Those Wall Street guys have nothing on you lot!

 Roll Eyes

1000 pages is no victory when most of it is trash talk!

We are just waiting for platform access, nothing better to do. Until then you won't see much of a content here.
After that it will be much, much more BS and some real discussion..
733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 01, 2016, 07:40:17 PM

How much can you fckn dwell on that one?
NO POLO FOR NOW, suck it up! You got allured into a long term project, and not another pump and dump.

Edit: And Jaka already wrote here that the next AMA will be postponed few days because co-founders are on a business trip. But why reading useful posts when we can cry about polo.

on  a side note: this thread doubled my ignore list... it's a record setter for now LOL.

aren't they just visiting china or something? think I read something on twitter too

yepp, Ethereum Hong-Kong meetup:
https://www.meetup.com/Ethereum-Hong-Kong/events/235821406/
734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 01, 2016, 07:27:34 PM
How long is the lockup period for Devs & advisors 15% share?
I read somewhere that it's 3 or 6 months after distribution but I'm not sure...
That could explain their lack of motivation to list ICN on Polo right now.


About the other nonsense you said - care to explain how the devs can prevent polo from listing the token?
Or if they would want to sale right after the lock period ends, why wouldn't they want the price to be higher?
I know! Their plan is to allow polo to list it the same day they can sell their share, right?

Polo could simply be waiting on ICONOMI devs to supply further technical or legal documentation.
ICONOMI Devs may be delaying requested docs on purpose until the lockup period on their share approaches
So they don't miss out on that 1st week pop on Polo.
You can't be serious!
plz tell me you are joking, bored, or just trolling.

Not sure if he's trolling or not, but it's a good question to ask Devs... if they only tell us when is the next AMA one day  Roll Eyes

How many times you can ask them the same silly questions? You will get the same answer: "We are under NDA, all ICN listing will be communicated by the exchange itself"

How much can you fckn dwell on that one?
NO POLO FOR NOW, suck it up! You got allured into a long term project, and not another pump and dump.

Edit: And Jaka already wrote here that the next AMA will be postponed few days because co-founders are on a business trip. But why reading useful posts when we can cry about polo.
735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 01, 2016, 07:02:40 PM
How long is the lockup period for Devs & advisors 15% share?
I read somewhere that it's 3 or 6 months after distribution but I'm not sure...
That could explain their lack of motivation to list ICN on Polo right now.


About the other nonsense you said - care to explain how the devs can prevent polo from listing the token?
Or if they would want to sale right after the lock period ends, why wouldn't they want the price to be higher?
I know! Their plan is to allow polo to list it the same day they can sell their share, right?

Polo could simply be waiting on ICONOMI devs to supply further technical or legal documentation.
ICONOMI Devs may be delaying requested docs on purpose until the lockup period on their share approaches
So they don't miss out on that 1st week pop on Polo.
You can't be serious!
plz tell me you are joking, bored, or just trolling.
736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 01, 2016, 06:41:49 PM
How long is the lockup period for Devs & advisors 15% share?
I read somewhere that it's 3 or 6 months after distribution but I'm not sure...
That could explain their lack of motivation to list ICN on Polo right now.



your logic makes absolutely no sense. ICN added to Polo would only help increasing the value prior to FUND and INDEX launch in my opinion.

They probably don't want to miss out on that first week pop on Poloniex.

but why, ICN rises and falls in value according to the underlying products...

good luck explaining that to the big "day traders". They are used to trade with shitcoins with little to no value.
Once OFM will be up and we will have solid user-base, with or without polo we are going up.
I actually prefer ICN not to be on polo now, before the product is ready.
737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 01, 2016, 06:34:25 PM
How long is the lockup period for Devs & advisors 15% share?
I read somewhere that it's 3 or 6 months after distribution but I'm not sure...
That could explain their lack of motivation to list ICN on Polo right now.


It's not 15% for devs. 15% was reserved for all non-ICO participants, including bounties, advisory, team and future team. The dev part is 8%, as far as I remember. And it is locked for 6 months.

About the other nonsense you said - care to explain how the devs can prevent polo from listing the token?
Or if they would want to sale right after the lock period ends, why wouldn't they want the price to be higher?
I know! Their plan is to allow polo to list it the same day they can sell their share, right?

Looks like you are not the sharpest pencil in the box.
738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 01, 2016, 03:35:56 PM
I see that people are still fighting because of Poloniex and other exchange not listing ICNs yet . NDA or whatever the name is , is still active as mentioned by Jani last time so we should expect seeing it on new exchange soon. I understand that Liqui.io isn't trusted enough and Kraken isn't good when It comes to UI or UX etc... but you guys should be patient.
Cry babies can't be patient, they need fast profit on their allowance money. That's how real day traders make more free lunchbox money.
739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 01, 2016, 01:58:06 PM
Yes I've also read somewhere that performance funds will be launched this mid december to which the tweet says dec16.   Grin

So the Funds will launch within the next 30 days.

Have you prepared yourself for the Moonride Wink? I have the ICN amount i wanted and just waiting for lift off

I thought the performance launch will be mid December, all I want is ICONOMI getting on a bigger and better exchange soon

WE all want it on huge exchange like Polo because its where we can see volume and this can help the team as well making its value to the moon.
It seems there is no intention to trade the site better for ICN, it is in the undo once with all the responses everyone to raise the popularity and price of ICN at trading site that is better for the future ..

Looks like a move to the price not will push up before the work of ICN team.

Which I find the correct move. No need for an artificial pump before the product is ready. If you want pump and dump, go day trade zerocrash
740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 01, 2016, 06:30:21 AM
ICN index will go down along the time with the actual portfolio. Bitcoin and ethereum should represent >51% of the fund . Altcoins in the index should be less. Lets see ico investments on performance fund and wait next year for sharing profit.

You are more than welcome to create your own fund and set the rules according to what you think is best.
ICNX has a different outlook. If you are interesting, read the answer  here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5df4ow/icnx_question/
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