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721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 19, 2023, 06:45:43 PM
I don't know how many people here who've seen or rather listened to the new Eminem Juice World song, but it reminds me of gambling and gambling responsibly.  Juice World famously and sadly died of drug OD a few years ago now, and Em famously had a drug issue for years.  So it's a song of responsibility (rare in the Hip Hop genre).  It sort of reminds me of this...if you can do it responsibly then great, if not..you shouldnt be gambling at all.
722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does match fixing concern you often? on: December 19, 2023, 06:39:43 PM
It really doesn't , because it's so few and far between that we actually ever hear of matches being fixed.  Now don't get me wrong, I damn well know that they do..but they don't as often as I think people think they do. 

Has anyone seen all the parody commercial the NFL (US football) has been putting out, mainly before the season, where they are all mocking the fact that so many say the league is "scripted".  It's pretty funny, pointing out the absurdity.
723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 19, 2023, 06:36:59 PM
Well here we are, it's offically playoff time no matter what league you're in.  How in the fck did time fly by this fast?  I appreciate ya'll in this league..everyone's cool, does a good job with setting lineups and what not..glad to be apart of it.  So cheers to that (lots of fighting/bad actors etc in other leagues I'm in).  I may not have made the playoffs but I got closer than I did last year lol. 

Ended up making the playoffs in 4 of my 6 leagues.  Play Hhampuz in the semi-final in our other btalk league.  Dropped like 145pts and had a monster of a game..10pts less and I'd be looking out.  So US vs Sweden this week..but I think he will prevail, he's just due.

Best of luck to those whom made the playoffs..will be watching closely.  Cheers ya'll.
724  Economy / Economics / Re: My view of wealth and assets specially now on: December 18, 2023, 06:33:46 PM
It depends entirely on where you live in the world.  Real Estate is often a fantastic investment, and owing debt is not necessarily bad at all.  I believe your view is a bit flawed here.

I mean you mention btc, gold, no real estate. Well what about traditional investment?  No one should be buying gold, silver, bitcoin etc if they don't have a proper retirement portfolio such and IRA of 401k.  Investing in the stock market is to to be investing in actual real world physical companies.  Far too many people start buying bitcoin before having any sort of traditional investments ..DONT DO THAT.
725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You will burn on: December 18, 2023, 06:26:52 PM
Yeah working in finance you should see the type of stuff I hear and get asked, people tend to be clueless with any finance stuff.. not understanding basic principles.  I often get clients asking about bitcoin, and always they tell me they've got say 50 percent bitcoin, and the other 50.  I try telling them they have zero ZERO chance of becoming something. 

Twitter is filled with bots that will say "buy this coin, it's upside is way higher because its only 50 cents.. these companies never explain the other siide of the equation.  I agree though, this is a great topic btw..more people need to come here to learn this concept.
726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Type of gambling and Intelligence on: December 18, 2023, 06:20:19 PM
Does the type of game you play at a casino or sports you bet on show an individual's level of intelligence or how smart a person is?
Blackjack, Poker, slots, roulette, baccarat, sports betting, horse racing, betting on sociopolitical events, keno, etc.




Anyone who gambles on animals as a sport are not only not intelligent, their inconsiderate asshole who seemingly fine on watching a beautiful horse whos all hocked up run a race, risking injury that OFTEN ends in death. It's sick and cruel and show a major lack of intelligence in my mind.  Sorry as an animal advocate I can't not speak out


As for the other stuff..heck yes it make a big difference Intelligence is needed in games like Poker, Roulette and especially blackjack.  My father was the most intelligent person I'd ever known.  He loved to gamble, but he was very smart about it.  I can't tell you how many blackjack books he read.  He would hate playing with one of my uncles because he was a terrible plyer and would mess up the game.  He's certainly not as smart as my father way.  It matter.
727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: December 18, 2023, 06:14:51 PM
Yeah I hear ya, that's pretty frustrating, but man..if 10 bucks is too much to come out of pocket with that other 10 still being owed to you..does it really makes sense to continue to gamble?  As a financial advisor I see stuff like this and I start to think what might have been a better idea.  If 10 bucks is a lot, you shouldn't be gambling.  Be careful, stay within your means...but againi..that sucks your friend did that to you.
728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 18, 2023, 06:10:38 PM
If this is really Tee Higgins' mother, no one should mention anything bad about her son in social media heheeheheh.



@ChiBitCTy. Were the Bears +3.5?

On the Eagles vs. the Seahawks, might this be the opportunity to bet on the Eagles with only -3 against the spread? This might be -7 or more if they did not play consecutively against the 49ers and the Cowboys which arguably are contenders for NFC championship.

Man I hate how berried this thread always gets.  Crazy that that's just how busy this sub is

Anways, I saw the bears around -2.5, but it could of been 3.5 closer to the game.  Either way they lost in lovely Bears style fashion lol.

There's a lot for me riding on tonights game.  If AJ Brown scores 10 or more points I'm in the playoffs in the other btalk league, where our pot sits around $2,200 or so.  Scored 145pts this week too, my team went over, and despite losing Burrow and Chubb, my team is rock solid.  So yeah, trust me when I say Brown wont have 10pts because of me lol.  Just watch.

I think the main thing here is Jalen Hurts may or may not play. He pays I'm smashing that bet.  Talkin smack to his mom, def not cool.
729  Economy / Collectibles / Re: My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Halving Sets!! on: December 18, 2023, 06:59:03 AM
OGNasty a page or two ago is right.

It would save everyone here a lot of time and troubles if they kept this thought in the back of their heads.

Took me a good mn to understand this lol. You act as if you being right is common ..doubtful. messin, but this is a Yogg thread and will stay on that topic.  Hopefully people will get back to the topic of doing something with the collected funds. This just really rubs me wrong way.
730  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You must have a source on: December 17, 2023, 06:47:57 PM
Honestly I’m not sure that I really see any sort of pattern like you mention in your thread. I see a lot of people regardless of income , ups and downs of the spot price etc. moving in and out etc, Typically people whom are struggling a lot with the decision to sell all the time are not the people who should be likely be buying bitcoin at all.
731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How discipline are you in managing your bankroll? on: December 17, 2023, 06:42:04 PM
Well being financially responsible when it comes to gambling is something that goes hand in hand with my work (finance), so it keeps me in check gambling wise ..but I can’t lie I’ve recently been playing a little roulette, and that actually kinda scares me as I really just don’t trust it being legit but two , can’t make it a habit. Besides that, I’m all good in this area.
732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 17, 2023, 06:36:30 PM
Couldn’t really find much that I liked betting on today.  I believe the falcons were -2.5 versus the Panthers. Snag a little action  We will see how that one turns out.

This Bears Browns game, what a snoozfest.  Best of luck everyone who’s still in contention this week !  Mf Tonyan drops a TD as Im typing. What a throw too ugh, alright I need a smoke break
733  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INFO} Be aware of https://privnote.co/ on: December 17, 2023, 09:12:20 AM
Proof that google doesn’t give a fuck about anything but money. They are hands down the most advanced software company on the planet, and they aren’t able to quickly research ad companies before allowing them to advertise on their site. They already allowed this once, and not too long after (post having received countless complaints from people that this ad site they were promoting was actually a scammer pretending to be a legit company).  You guys think google might have software capabilities to ping past scams quickly even if they somehow unknowingly (which yeah right) allowed them back on.  I can’t even post a btalk link or write the letters “btalk” on YouTube without them deleting it within minutes. They allow for bot scammers to have fake convos all the f over the place, no problem.  Have google TV and want to share your password ? Impossible thanks to their industry best  GPS tracking software rendering it impossible.. Sickens me that they’ll never receive any sort of fine or punishment for these corrupt and illegal practices.
734  Economy / Collectibles / Re: My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Halving Sets!! on: December 17, 2023, 08:55:42 AM
Could you imagine if like Yogg was on his deathbed or something and needed an operation to pay for it all and the only way to save his own life was to steal all this money from everyone and to never look back? Idk, I know he had health issues. The only thing I can think is that nobody could be this heartless to everyone if they didn't desperately need it. If they didn't and they just stole then they're just an asshole but part of me thinks that there is so much more to this story. I just wish Yogg has the balls the send the last message. Whether it be that he screwed everyone or was desperate I just wish we knew. The truth remains to be seen.

Hey kept the private keys while he should have destroyed them, end of story!

Indeed.  There is enough evidence now I feel to say that this was his plan from the beginning.  Between the closing of his company, tracing the stolen funds to an exchange, him not coming to face the music, keeping all the private keys from the beginning...  

This is an example of it being harder to convince someone they've been scammed, then to scam someone.  Yogg was a scammer and he scammed.  He received plenty of help from his "friends" who are now busy thinking of ways to capitalize on the incident to sell more products to the scammed customers.  All I can say is to be careful and don't be the guy who thinks there's more to this story.  You'll be disappointed.  Yogg was a scammer and he scammed.  If you fell for it or considered him a part of your friend group, you were bamboozled and should take a long hard look at that friend group, because if there was any more to this story, it would be that Yogg didn't do this by himself.  

"There is enough evidence now I feel to say that this was his plan from the beginning".  I disagree and would argue just the opposite.  If he wanted to do this from the beginning he would have done things a lot differently.  He also would have had a much better system set up for sweeping funds.  He was doing this slowly over the course of hours, and as far as we know just for the halving sets.  He's a Mr Robot type, he would have had a much better system lined up to be able to easily sweep keys quickly, and not just one set of cards, but all of his cards.  As far as we know so far, only the halving sets have been swept.  Sure he didn't fund a lot of other cards, but that's different.  

Either way, he's a scammer and it all sickens me.  The betrayal I feel right now is one I don't think I've ever felt.   


Ooof.  randomly came across this post of mine which needs correction. OGNasty a page or two ago is right. I’ve told a few people but at this point I know there’s no hope for Yogg making any good so.. I messaged him via the forum and just told him how shocked I was. I was struggling to come to terms with the the potential truth which is in fact he’s just a scamming pos.  I told him to reach out so we could chat. Few hours later and I see a call to my phone from France.  Long story short I ruled out serious mental health issue/breakdown.  He admitted to me that he had built in a “kill switch “ (keep the keys) form day fucking one. I tried several times to get him to send at least what he had made, funded or not..so that people he screwed over could have something. He had absolutely no interest in that. None. Not to mention what hurt most was that he had rot only ruined a friendship but I never got as much as a single sorry. Then a few days later he sweeps more cards (I messaged him on discord to a now defunct account, and begged him not to do it. Told me he was hungry and needed food) which meant he lied to me on the phone about not having any more keys left.  He also told me he hated cryptocurrency stuff, coding etc and has all along.  So yeah, he played us alll, for years. I’m not quite sure even why he called me at all.
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Anyways..been meaning to share this. Also hoping this drives the “community” to stop dickiing around and come up w/a plan on how to disperse the funds from the charity auction. Personally I’d be pissed off if I was say Kilalara (who’s not said a peep about this) who was not affected by this at all, but out the kindness of his heart donated a valuable collectible… a good while ago now. It was meant to help those whom really needed it, and it’s yet to happen. Suing him is an option that is not even remotely wise. I don’t want anything back to be clear, but if everyone can’t come up with a consensus on what to do ..btc should be sent back to all the donators.  At this point is gotten utterly ridiculous.  Set a date, no consensus, donators refund. 
735  Other / Meta / Re: Second chances on: December 17, 2023, 07:09:01 AM
It was a big worry that if the forum started to allow banned members to request and possibly receive an un-ban, that it would then set banned members in to a frenzy and overwhelm the Mods. Theymos, after Hilarious’s thread to discuss changing the rules (which was in large part was in favor for doing so) changed the rules and it didn’t become an overwhelming issue like some thought it would.  Most banned members simply move on or create ban evading new accounts. Didn’t think this would be a ton different, but this thread goes to show the Mods here aren’t evil and non-caring and whatever else people will say towards them when irrationally upset.

Appreciate you and this thread Cyrus!! Hopefully it’ll help a few members whom made dumb mistakes get a second chance.
736  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTB] - $Cashapp - Bread Magazine Issue 1 - https://breadzine.com/ on: December 17, 2023, 06:18:44 AM
All of those locations in Chicago are oddly within just a few mns of my old homestead. Kinda odd how they didn’t really spread them out very well. Would have been great for me though lol.

If anyone gets a spare I’ll happily trade ya something of equal or greater value. Ive still got a few of those Fortune mags Crypto vs Wallstreet, which was a fun little hunt that took me days.
737  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [SEEKING][ChiBitCTy???] Anyone have contact with ChiBitCTy?! on: December 14, 2023, 11:08:57 AM
I know this turd. My bad, been meaning to check my inbox for a couple days now…

This explains the call I got from FedEx today. I tried calling them back after they left a VM but it’s next to impossible to reach a live person. I tried tricking the system many times but was unsuccessful. Will inbox you in a couple mns. Again, my bad..been meaning to check/get back to those who’ve inboxed me lately.
738  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you still use Banks ? on: December 13, 2023, 04:12:55 PM
Not having a bank account is insane, for most people throughout the world.  Now as a financial advisor, and someone who knows the inner workings of banks very well, I can also say for the most part I absolutely don't trust them.  Now for smaller "mom and pop" type banks, or credit unions, that's a different story.  However the big behemoth types banks such as JP Morgan, Wells Fargo, Bank of America etc, I agree they are most certainly corrupt, and not worth using.  However to totally rid of banks is mostly nonsensical in most part of the earth.  How are you going to get paid by work?  How are you going to make payments to most outlets (most do not accept cryptocurrency)  Where are you going to store your traditional fiat money?  Etc etc..
739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is wiser? on: December 13, 2023, 04:09:21 PM
At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.

This question can not be properly answered unless we know the full financial situation of each person you mentioned here.  There should be an option number 4 that states they don't buy anything, and put the money to better "proper" use.  Perhaps these people have a bit of debt that needs paid off, perhaps they are behind on saving in their traditional investments, such as their 401k plans etc.  Otherwise if I had to choose, I would go with the 3rd option.
740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 13, 2023, 04:06:32 PM
For me it depends on what I'm betting on and how much I'm betting.  Let's say I'm getting ready to watch a Thursday night NFL game and it's sort of a boring game, I may place a bet simply to make the match that much more enjoyable to watch.  If I didn't have any "skin in the game", it would be much less of interest to me.  On the other hand I'll place bets on games that I really want to watch that I sometimes will turn off because the stress is just too much for me.  I try not to fall in to this category, but it happens.
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