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7221  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic situation declining and famous celebs not paying workers on: July 19, 2020, 11:27:09 AM
What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ?  What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.

If they can learn for a new thing, especially learning about bitcoin and they have skills, yes, they can start their own brands, offering their services to people, and receive payments in bitcoin. But we know that only a few people are willing to learn about something new, and many of them depend on offline jobs. So that will difficult for them to start their own brands or business.

It is not happening in the entertainment industry, but it's happening in other industries. Many companies, big or small companies, can't pay their workers. It's the effect of Covid-19 that is happening in many industries. It will be different from the companies that are getting funds from the state because they get some allocation of the funds used to pay the employees. The private companies will have this problem, and if they don't have strong funds or have a lot of money, those companies will not survive, and the companies will bankrupt.
7222  Economy / Speculation / Re: There are positive signs in the movement of bitcoin prices on: July 19, 2020, 06:23:57 AM
Many people expect to see bitcoin price can pas $10k in a short time, but if we see the bitcoin movements, it seems, the price is at stable conditions because the price is not going down below $9k or increase up to $9,500. The price itself is still searching a good time to increase, and perhaps, we will have a chance to buy more bitcoin if the price is down below $9,100 because the price now is at $9,150.
Most people here will buy only if there are seeing confirmed signal for directions of prices to be profitable to them. I mean not all the people here are preferring to be buying at every dips as they may buy only for short term benefits (we cannot blame that because they must be active traders rather than being core bitcoiners). Moreover, OP is speculating based bitcoin to be trading stronger above $9300 levels but right now bitcoin is trading below $9200 hence this speculation is basically not in effect any more.

Let me back to the trend of bitcoins, the only good thing what I am observing right now across bitcoin market is, it got power to hold above $9000 levels. But, I wonder how world economic crisis is still able to influence the prices of bitcoin; does it mean bitcoin market is still depending on individual investors who regularly but bitcoins from their day job?

If people only buy from the confirmed signal, I think they can be late to get the lower price because when they try to buy, the price starts to increase. If they can analyze more to find the dips, I think they can try to buy at a lower price by placing at many order position prices, even though buying at the lower price is difficult. At least, they will have more chances to get a lower price.

I think the same as you, but we don't know if bitcoin will survive at that price level or not because, until now, the market is still up and down many times, and the chance to get down will still be wide open. But I am not hoping that the price will go down for more, and I hope the price will increase in the next week.  The world crisis will not directly influence the prices of bitcoin, but it could have an impact on bitcoin price, so we need to wait for more and hope that no world crisis happens.
7223  Economy / Speculation / Re: There are positive signs in the movement of bitcoin prices on: July 19, 2020, 04:56:23 AM
I don't see anything like that, positive signs? We all that positive and optimistic for the incoming but unfortunately, we are heading for nothing but still at a low market support level. Halving effect is nothing to see at this time and anyway, we can't expect it also to take effect in this situation.
What we asking for now is to keep the market stronger and given a chance to break that $10k wall, not to be more speculative to go further beyond.
The situation is really bothering so much and people aren't much confident to invest crypto but have to secure their health first.
If you look closely you will see that bitcoin just stay its price to $9000 in the past few months that the price of bitcoin does not goes down to $8000 since bitcoin halving have occured. So in a short time, bitcoin could pass the $10,000 or before the end of the year of 2020. All we need to do is to have a little patience and maintain our long term investment.

Many people expect to see bitcoin price can pas $10k in a short time, but if we see the bitcoin movements, it seems, the price is at stable conditions because the price is not going down below $9k or increase up to $9,500. The price itself is still searching a good time to increase, and perhaps, we will have a chance to buy more bitcoin if the price is down below $9,100 because the price now is at $9,150.

Yes, we need to have more patience to wait for the price can break every high price. And no matter if that will happen in the next month or the end of this year, we can be ready for that coming, so we can sell bitcoin at a high price.
7224  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Keeping it's limitaion Between 9--10K on: July 19, 2020, 03:49:37 AM


Here my current chart for Bitcoin.
I am expecting happen what it did last few months, the triangle breakout.
It is a bullish continuation pattern. For me, this will take time and expect for more neutral price action of Bitcoin.
Breaking on this another triangle would be a huge effect on bitcoin for me, let's be patient.

From your image, it might happen in the next month or 2 months later. If the price still on the sideways like we see today, it will need more time to see for bitcoin to break the higher rate. We can also see another downtrend this month or next month because the sideways have two chances: to go down or up, and I guess that the price may be down for once again before the price increases. But I hope that the price is down, and only increase and break $10k. If that happens, we might see a bullish market in the next 2 months later.
7225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 19, 2020, 02:45:10 AM
Looking at the graph of the cases in Nevada, there is really a need for the local government to make a strategy and way to lessen the number of cases. And that is make a crucial decision to close the establishments for the meantime and prevent hard headed tourists and gamblers from entering the main cities without a valid reason. I know many countries are relaxing their soft lockdowns but it depends on the situation or it is case to case basis for each country or area and it is not always the same comparing areas. Las Vegas is a different case altogether. They better decide what is more important, the economy or the health of their constituents.
Some countries are still in lockdown and the so called government has nothing to do with it. Some had lost control over their movements with knowing what the future holds for them. Most of local gambling platforms have a shop operated by agents where bettors, gamblers go for placing a bet. This will really affect the case of Las Vegas as US records a good number of cases and covid 19 wouldn't come to end soon, Soviet would advice gamblers residing in Las Vegas to stay out of casino hall until this pandemic is over. 

Now, some countries are trying to reopen the lockdown, and apply the new normal which can give the chance for the casino to reopen their business too. Las Vegas as a place for many local casinos already reopen their place and invite the gambler to come to their casino and play the games. I am sure the local government can work together with the casino to use some rules for the gambler if they want to play gambling in the casino. In this pandemic, it is important to protect people in the casino, and I am sure that the casino itself will limit the number of gamblers who can enter the room.
7226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will There Comes A Time That All Online Gambling Sites Are CryptoCurrency Based? on: July 19, 2020, 01:34:52 AM
I am not sure that all online gambling sites will be cryptocurrency based, because the popularity of cryptocurrency still cannot defeat fiat.
There are even many people who are anti-crypto, don't want to use cryptocurrency. And we cannot force these people to use crypto. So
I think there will always be fiat based online gambling sites, if in the future crypto-based online gambling sites will be more numerous
versus fiat based is still possible.
Those fiat based casino might add features sooner to attract some crypto users, but it will take time depending on how they can manage the change they will about to do. There are some crypto based casino now that allows debit or credit card that allows to deposit fiat money like in sportsbet now. Sooner or later fiat based gambling sites may accept cryptocurrency too due to the demand it can benefit them.

If the fiat-based casino is aware of the presence of cryptocurrency, the owner will find out what cryptocurrency is before they add the crypto on the payment processor. Perhaps, if the owner can know what the crypto function, the owner will soon add new features, and they will notice to their members that they have a new payment processor. As long as the sound of cryptocurrency can spread in many places, soon, the fiat-based casino will use crypto too. If that happens, we will see the cryptocurrency explode, and there will be an increase in the gambling industry.
7227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CORONAVIRUS IMPACT ON SPORTS GAMBLING on: July 19, 2020, 12:29:32 AM
~snip~

The problem is for those vulnerable age group that will be infected by the virus. Anyway, they know the risk involved, so I guess organizations involved will have contingencies in place and ready to address the situation to contain the infection, if in case it will happen. Slowly, we are seeing more sports events coming live again.

If they are not ready, they won't reopen the event. I think the sports event organizer already collaborate with the local government and local medical to support the events. And if necessary, they will ask help from the local medical to stand by at the stadium to help check people who are involved, and I am sure that they will do that. We don't want to see another victim after the events to prevent by checking and scanning people, especially for every player who will play.
7228  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tron's Justin Sun Offers $1 Million Bounty For Twitter Hackers on: July 18, 2020, 02:05:52 PM
If I were in his shoes, I would rather spend $1 million for charity purposes during this pandemic. In that way, I would respect him even more despite meeting him a few times in person last year in Hongkong and Taiwan.

More people will respect his decision if he donates his money for charity purposes, especially we are still in the Covid-19. He will get more appreciation from the public, and he can also introduce about bitcoin because many people will know and search about him. When people see that he is one of many people behind the crypto world, people will gain enthusiasm to search for more info, and who knows, he can be a trendsetter in the crypto world. We don't know what his reason to do that because I think it is hard to reveal the hackers.
7229  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Stop loss after buying coin on: July 18, 2020, 10:00:43 AM
Yes, of course, you can. You can apply to stop-loss after buying a coin, but I wonder why you should do that if you already analyze the coin before you purchased. Usually, stop loss is apply when the market is going down, and you want to prevent the losses because of the price is going down below than the price you bought. If you are afraid the downtrend, you can use stop loss to prevent from the down of the price, but you might set it after analyzing more, so you can know if the market is really getting down or not.
7230  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best Ethereum-based gambling sites? on: July 18, 2020, 08:57:33 AM
~snip~

gambling site that uses etherium and other cryptos are i think different from the gambling site that is all out built within etherium blockchain  . eth based gambling site could offer different functions and features that cant be seen on an eth supported gambling site  . for the people that loves and suppport eth that much he/she will prefer full featured eth casino site but he can choose different kind of this site depending on his preference because not all sites are good but there are bad sites too

I think it is almost the same for me because I don't think much about the complexity of the difference between those sites. When I gamble, I only think about the convenience of staying and playing at the gambling site, whether it's a gambling site based on ethereum or based on crypto. But I already said about the advantage and the disadvantage from each gambling site, and a gambler will select the gambling site based on what he feels. And perhaps, you choose the gambling website because of the other things that I don't know so that you can say like that. That is not a problem for me Grin
7231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how big? on: July 18, 2020, 06:42:00 AM
well of course when more and more people stay silent at home then more people will try to do activities at home and try to find information to get money so that they will search like a casino and other gambling venues to be the right choice to multiply money with easy.

easy money huh ? its easy to think that you can earn and double your capital but that is if when you havent started playing it but by the time your playing the game your expectations and experience suddenly becomes different  . i cant say gambling is easy money but the involvement for online gambling now that we are staying at home most of the time did grew alot   . its not about people engage in gambling for easy money but they are also bored and wants to have fun   .

Ordinary people who don't know much about making money online will think it is easy money. But after they try one, two, three method, they will find that is difficult to do, and I guess they will stop what they do, and leave it as soon as they think that does not work for them. They will think that "aah, it is not for me. I cannot get the money."

But if they come to the gambling website, that can make them excited to play the games because they think that while they play the games, they can make money, but does not always happen as they think.

Right now, staying at home gives easiness to the gambler to continue to play gambling. With so many options for the gambling website and the payment method, they will have much time to play the games. That leads many new people who try to play gambling games because they think that they can make money through gambling games.
7232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best Ethereum-based gambling sites? on: July 18, 2020, 05:40:26 AM
I think almost all gambling site which built around the Ethereum blockchain or using Ethereum technology will have the same function. I cannot say which site will be better or best compare to the other site because each site will have the advantage and disadvantage, and I guess that is related to our feeling to stay on that gambling website. If we don't feel right to play on one site, we can try the other website until we can find the right website, so we can play comfortably because we already found what we want.
7233  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CORONAVIRUS IMPACT ON SPORTS GAMBLING on: July 18, 2020, 04:40:41 AM
Really excited too about the upcoming season too, I just hope no false negative for the players and staff, I mean a positive person labelled as a negative. It will be a problem inside the bubble cause it will make the season be cancelled once again.

I think the infected players and staff will get help from the doctor, and I am sure that they will get better again. We hope that there is no problem with sports games, even if there are infected players and staff. As long as the other staff still use the procedures and protocols from the government, I am sure they can minimize the chance to get infected so that the sports event can continue. If the situations getting worst, the sports events need to stop for a while to be checked and make sure that everything is fine.
7234  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: First Mover: With Trading Volumes Slumping, Are There Too Many Crypto Exchanges? on: July 17, 2020, 09:28:16 AM
Their is also a possibility that bitcoin will drop to 8000$ based on my T.A bitcoin volatility are very low the reason is too many economic are down due to the pandemic happen we dont know when will be this pandemic end.

But it didn't go below $9k as predicted by some TA because as the OP has said, volume is low and there are no break out or anything. So the price is relatively stable now, it could be good though to buy and go long. I don't think that pandemic has a direct correlation, most of the countries have open up, it's just that the investors are just waiting for a bullish signal before buying again.

The market now becomes stable, although the price is still up to $9,300 and down below $9,200. That is not going too far than the other people's predictions, and I think even if the price is like that, we can still make a profit by using the moment to buy low and sell high. But I am sure it will be temporary, and after bitcoin find the right time to increase, the price will start to grow. And at that time, hopefully, the price can start the rally and break $10k to the high price.
7235  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Keeping it's limitaion Between 9--10K on: July 17, 2020, 06:06:51 AM
~snip~

signs ? the trend line or the chart that we saw here is already their sign to predict if what can happen next on the price of btc but still ,  anything can happen anytime of the day  .

thats what we believe for us normal users that dont depend or dont know how to use signals and charts .  the pattern of the price for btc is only back and forth but we shouldnt be confident on it as this can only be a trap .


I don't call that sign as the trend line or the chart in the market because we need more than that trend line or the chart to analyze and find more signs. We need to find more signs from the history trading, the order queue, and even we need to find the other sign from the other indicator, and not just from the trend line or the chart.

The pattern of bitcoin prices will always be up and down, but the difficult thing for us is to buy low and sell high. Not all people can get that sign because sometimes, we feel that we can buy at a low price, but then the price will go down for more in the next thirty minutes. If we only analyze from the trend line and the chart, we will not get more signs if the price will go down or not.
7236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CORONAVIRUS IMPACT ON SPORTS GAMBLING on: July 17, 2020, 04:03:30 AM
~snip~
Until now I have not seen the news about being infected with the virus after the sporting event has finished so all is well as long as it must comply with existing protocols and I am sure the government has tested the feasibility of the sport being opened so that no one is infected in Covid-19.
Sport is important in the government economic industry so it paves the way for any sport to be reopened.

I think that a sporting event has already succeeded, and they continue with the next match. We hope that there is no infected person involved in that event so that the event can run as a schedule. The staff and all people in the event still need to be careful because the pandemic not ended now. Besides that, the new normal seems can be a new way for the virus to infect people because if people stay at the crowd without wear a mask and use social distance, that can lead to a new case. The government will need to be aware of the second wave if people do not care about their health.
7237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How secured is crypto card? on: July 16, 2020, 02:51:22 PM
Even if the crypto card is secure, I don't want to use it because I cannot find the local store that accepts crypto. I think the function will be like the credit/debit card, but we can transact using the crypto. But I don't know for sure since I never have the crypto card or I don't try to use it. I prefer to scan the barcode if I want to buy something in a local store, but of course, that store needs to accept the crypto so I can use the crypto to pay the product that I want. Perhaps, that time will come to us to start using the crypto card in a local store in our city.
7238  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the twitter scam crash the price on: July 16, 2020, 12:43:18 PM
its only a scam and the accounts of bill and elon havent really hacked ? why would they be panicked  .

if ever they got hacked , hackers wont transact small but they will send all the money from thier account and this will cause a crash on the price but that is if they hack cryptos  . hacking for different purpose not related to crypto wont affect us here . legit hacking wont lead me to sell my assets but itl make me more interested on them .

If that really happens, they should be panicked. It's like if that is happening to one of your accounts, whether it's your social account or the other account. You will be panic, and you want to recover as soon as possible. That is a normal thing that every people might do if they know their account gets hacked. Besides that, if that is their real account, they need to explain to the public that they cannot use their old account and create a new account.

Back to the topic.

The responsibility is to come to the media. If the media don't blow up the news and can calm down the public, people will not panic selling because they can see that it's because of the bug from the website so that the hacker can take over the account.

I wonder who is the hacker because that person should have a high-skill to penetrate to the account.
7239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin Looking Bullish now? on: July 16, 2020, 07:14:46 AM
Since a few days ago, bitcoin is not moving anywhere. The price tends to become stable this month, but we might see something in the next month as we see the bitcoin still too volatile, and it is hard to predict where bitcoin price will go. The price is up and down without notice, and that makes us careful to decide. If we doubt where bitcoin price will move, perhaps, we can stop trading for a while, but we can watch and analyze the price and the trend, so we can get more sign to decide. I think the price will not move too far for the rest of this month because if the price is down or up, the movements are not drastically, but the move will be step by step.
7240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CORONAVIRUS IMPACT ON SPORTS GAMBLING on: July 16, 2020, 06:27:31 AM
~snip~

of course because who wouldnt want to protect thier country from the threat of the virus  ? it will only make them look bad if they do unwanted things  but imo they already look bad when they continue sports events in the middle of the crisis  . for me events like this arent that important but there are more important than this like foccusing on the ways to help reduced the spread instead of helping the virus spread more  . that also shows that governments of some countries have thier own policy of thieir own or for themselves only   .

Perhaps, they continue that sports event because they need an income for their country, so they allow the sports event to do that with the term and conditions. I am sure that the government already thinks about the spread of the virus in that sports event, and they will try so hard to protect all people who are involved in those sports events. We can only hope that sports events will not have a problem with the spread of the virus, and people can back to their homes with safety.
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