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7321  Other / Archival / Re: Diff thread Aug 8 to Aug 22nd picks are closed. Good luck! on: August 20, 2015, 09:02:11 PM
With the new S7 coming this one may be negative but the next one will be huge!

We don't know if the S7 will be soon or not.  Bitmain did announce the chip which I agree is big.  What I cant figure out is why a company that normally is quiet on development spoke out with it before S7 was released. 

As suchmoon pointed out, they did that with the S3. They announced the chip, then the S3 two weeks later.

History could repeat itself...

One question that is related is how did iTop beat Bitmain to posting it to forums?  Did they release specs in China first and iTop took it to this board right away?

Was odd to see third party post it before bitmain.
7322  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] OPEN SPOTS Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: August 20, 2015, 08:59:28 PM
Macro PM sent to you a minute ago.

Please reply once you get time.  

Thanks.

Always wondered why people post "sent you a PM". Why would you need to post that?

Probably because has missed PMs and only noticed it, immediately, after i mentioned it here. So its probably the same for him.

It is a way of hopefully nicely getting a PM through.  I sent a few and did not hear back I know he is busy so I understad, and am not worried.  

But figured I would post as that chances are will get a PM back as I know he checks thread and will see it.  

And no post in this thread count which is nice as that is not counted as a post, so no issues there.
7323  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 08:55:54 PM
I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).

I would agree it will be pretty close.  They never had the avalon/sp gear adjustment on over/under clock effecting efficiency in big chunks.

I do think it could be overclocked though and get even more hash.  I personally did not do it as I don't want to break my 90 day warranty.

down the road you can try a 10 volt freq 200 underclock.

I will help you get to 10 volts to do it.

Thank you!  Down the road I do plan on playing with it more.  But with paper/email it really seems bitmain is getting harder on warranty.  So I'm going to ride out the warranty in default specs.

The one thing I am surprised just going over my notes is that they did not sell a 1 module unit.   Each module is 100 percent the same.  The only difference is one of the three had the controller put on it.  So they easily could have don't like a S5+ one module, or three module with no additional cost other then more controller boards.
7324  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN launches 4th generation Bitcoin mining ASIC: BM1385 on: August 20, 2015, 08:36:08 PM
So I guess people in Europe or other places with high KWH prices will be able to jump back into mining I guess.



I don't know if this is true a lot will upgrade to new efficient gear eventually.  So you would still compete with others with same disadvantage of high electricity prices.

What will happen is old gear gets sold to miners in cheaper electricity areas.  So most stay's on network.    I would be surprised if even a new chip allows high electrical places to ROI.  But I hope I'm wrong on that.
7325  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Dragon miner running really slow !will pay in btc for teamviever help! on: August 20, 2015, 08:16:34 PM
I Can try take it apart and swap the cables tomorrow and check all connections.

Then i could search for the original image and put on instead.

I would not swap all the cables yet.  I would just make sure snug at this point.   

But yes searching for image and trying others is a good  idea.  Make sure to look for 5 blade images if possible (they are hard to find at this point)
7326  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Dragon miner running really slow !will pay in btc for teamviever help! on: August 20, 2015, 07:49:41 PM
so i changed the subnet mask to 255 instead of 254, still the same. wont even show up on slush pool Huh

this is the model i got



still only shows 2 blades and i tried unplug them all and put them back together.

2 blades has constant red light

3 blades flashes red light

before i put on the new image i had that locked image from lketc, and it had all 5 blades running, but had to reinstall because i couldnt edit anything, and now it wont work

or maybe i just fucked it up and got my self a nice piece of scrap metal Undecided

Are you able to ask previous owner about it?  We really don't know a lot of it's history with it being 5 blade it has been ran some time.   

I would ask previous owner what problems he had.  If he says none ask where it was ran at if a cheap data center or home or doubtful if just sold a good data center.

If you have a PSU tester you might check it.  I know they were nothing special and a lot broke after time.


Also do you have SD card with old image or happen to back it up before flashing new image?
7327  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 07:43:00 PM
I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).

I would agree it will be pretty close.  They never had the avalon/sp gear adjustment on over/under clock effecting efficiency in big chunks.

I do think it could be overclocked though and get even more hash.  I personally did not do it as I don't want to break my 90 day warranty.
7328  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 07:31:41 PM
Nice to see you got one so quick and providing details on units. What is the current power drain on unit on full load working and chugging away at the blockchain. 3436W  reading on the spec is insane for me to run a unit running fully each day would brake about £10 per day to run it, so I doubt would be cost effective for me running one. Whats your current work out on it in terms of energy from socket etc and use? Have you looked into the power use of it yet?

I can tell it's pulling 15 amps worth of electricity from my PDU which put's it around spec area.   My standard kill-a-watt does not have the same plug as I used on the 240.   So cant use it.

I'm hoping in next couple of day's I can try to get PDU's networking to work and hopefully it tells a little more details.  But again it was second hand through ebay and I'm not sure the network plug works on it the PDU from initial test.

I have around 11k watts running in new mining area after this.  And a tad in old area.    But this miner will use every bit of the power the say on specs.  Bitmain say you need 16 amp to run miner and I would agree with this.  You could do it from two 110's but I went with 240 volt 30 amp which I am very happy with currently.   Needless to say I think my electricity company loves me.

wow at 11k of energy being used and indeed no doubt your energy company is loving you no doubt about that. Hat to see your energy bills at the end of the year what put into it. Just hope you got a good rate off them and are succeeding in paying energy and making some coin at the end of the day too. Would love to have more equipment but stopped mining since the days of S1 and gave up. Maybe if the new miners such as the S5+ come down in price and BTC price go up ill be in with a chance at owning one. Till that happens am sticking to trading or buying coins and maybe look into cloud mining in the future. Loving the work put into what your doing sure does give everyone an insight as to what look like and whats what with them Smiley

Thank you for the kind words.  I enjoy tinkering with electronics and computers.  And really enjoy documenting and playing with miners.

Even with one miner down currently I'm hitting around 13.4K total between two areas.  Eventually I will part with some of them and sell a few miners, but I have not reached that point yet.   I am lucky that I live on a true farm (like crop and cattle) and power company is use to seeing jumps.   

Went out and checked it is a mild day around 80 F.   The S5+ is still doing a much better job getting rid of heat then the regular S5.  So I'm calling it a sucess on dealing with heat compared to regular S5 since it has ran for around 20 hours at this point.  As far as noise my mining area is very noisy so not a issue for me.  But it is loud enough you would not want to put it in an area you want quiet.
7329  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 07:16:53 PM
Nice to see you got one so quick and providing details on units. What is the current power drain on unit on full load working and chugging away at the blockchain. 3436W  reading on the spec is insane for me to run a unit running fully each day would brake about £10 per day to run it, so I doubt would be cost effective for me running one. Whats your current work out on it in terms of energy from socket etc and use? Have you looked into the power use of it yet?

I can tell it's pulling 15 amps worth of electricity from my PDU which put's it around spec area.   My standard kill-a-watt does not have the same plug as I used on the 240.   So cant use it.

I'm hoping in next couple of day's I can try to get PDU's networking to work and hopefully it tells a little more details.  But again it was second hand through ebay and I'm not sure the network plug works on it the PDU from initial test.

I have around 11k watts running in new mining area after this.  And a tad in old area.    But this miner will use every bit of the power the say on specs.  Bitmain say's you need 16 amp to run miner and I would agree with this.  You could do it from two 110's but I went with 240 volt 30 amp which I am very happy with currently.   Needless to say I think my electricity company loves me.
7330  Other / Meta / Re: BurgerKill using your alt for feedback on: August 20, 2015, 07:04:20 PM
Just speculation but Pips might belong to him too. He has left feedback for both atherlete and burgerkill.
pips is a sold/bought account (refer to pips' trust feedback page), entirely possible. cant really point fingers without solid evidence though.

Athertle belonged to me, yes, but Pips is not my alt. I can assure you that (although my word here is useless).

Just checked Pips' feedback and that is a sent feedback to someone else, not a feedback he received.
that's exactly why hilariousandco had a suspicion pips is your alt; in the hypothetical case pips is indeed your alt, you would be using it as a sock puppet to boost the trust of this and the athertle accounts.

Yes, I already see your reasoning and it's sound; but as hilariousandco mentioned, this is all speculation.

--- Edit ---

I'd like to say sorry again in the matter of this. I will not do this in the future.

Are you sorry that you did it?  Or sorry you got caught?

I am really surprised doing this did not ruin your feedback with trying to manipulate it.  Maybe people are hitting negative less or something.  But surprising.
7331  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] OPEN SPOTS Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: August 20, 2015, 06:55:57 PM
Macro PM sent to you a minute ago.

Please reply once you get time. 

Thanks.
7332  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 06:30:46 PM
I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.
7333  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I'v been scammed... on: August 20, 2015, 06:27:23 PM
Hi every one,

I've just been scammed and they stole me an important (for me) sum of BTC on my localbitcoin account.
I think I have the IP who enter to my email and to my localbitcoin account: 84.53.203.38

The fund are gone on the following address: 1EVj1tv55KVpgHK3BwGxeNuyuqL4uqm3xY

I now I'm a fool for leaving an important sum of BTC in a hot wallet but I very disappointed.
I dont konw how they hacked me. Was not phishing and they got my email account passaword and my localbitcoin password to...

Anyone can help me to to do anything?

Thanks everyone

bro, i'm dont still using bitcoin because i'm got hacked two times, because it's so easy to hack an wallet also blockchain you watch an wallet address then you crack the private key then you'll be able to send bitcoins so easy...i'm recommended you to be not using btc because isn't an protected use paypal , skrill , pm or real money in your hands.

Oh right, bro you do realise it is more secure and protected than any of them you mention lol A fool and his money will always be parted even if they have at their disposal the best tools to protect their money. They don't use them. I have a cheap clean installed ledger wallet that I can use on your funky malware ridden computers and not a penny will ever be stolen. I have a few different paper wallets that was created offline, But, I see what you mean that isn't safe at all Wink Quick leave bitcoin, or learn to secure them and your system.

It is not easy to "hack" a bitcoin wallet " also blockchain you watch an wallet address then you crack the private key then" is kinda not even in realm of what happens.  I'm guessing you are thinking of like a CSI tv show clicking one button and a bunch of text scrolls ..... then cracked private key!

It could not be further from the truth.  The chances of getting a private key from brute force is so so very very tiny.  It just does not happen.   What happens is you get a virus/malware and then you are hacked.  It is the virus/malware and improper security settings on wallets that allow taking those coins.

Get a proper cold wallet, or hardware, or at least use 2 factor.  Hacking should not happen if done right on wallet security.
7334  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 06:00:23 PM
Have you done any efficiency testing at different frequencies?

I have not.  It seems to be Bitmain is getting more strict on their warranty.   I decided I will wait the 90 day's most likely until I do.

Or if next gen comes out and I need to underclock.   
7335  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] OPEN SPOTS Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: August 20, 2015, 05:18:22 PM
Hey Marco,

Just to let you know I'm a Sr. Member now. I don't know if the bot detect it or if you have to change something for my next posts.

I've changed my signature to the Sr. Member one :-)

I'm not sure exactly when you're supposed to change. Maybe after payout but before making more posts?


Bot detects it automatically.  Make sure to have proper sig for senior members.    After your payment for this current period the bot detects it and your next payment cycle should show the change.
7336  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Dragon miner running really slow !will pay in btc for teamviever help! on: August 20, 2015, 05:15:48 PM
Well its a 5 blade 1 TH so kinda wierd it only shows 2 blades.. First time i turned it on it showed 4 blades.
But i really Got zero skills in putty setup so cant do anything there unless the guide is really specific

Ill try change the subnet when i get home from Work

Ill post the result after Smiley

Let us know what happens.

I would check to make sure all blades are plugged in snugly.  2 blades showing leads to possible other problems.   And are you sure it's 5 blade?   If so this has had a long life 5 blade 1T's were the first ones, they later went 4 blades.
7337  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 04:47:07 PM
I wonder if you could zip tie two of the 2880w PSU's on each side of the miner to make it more tidy and neat.. seems like they can sit on their side right up against the s5+ side and if theres a way to affix them like that would be a good solution to loose psu's all over the place

I don't have the 2880 watt PSU.   So I cannot say on that one.  But on the Bitmain 1600 it is pretty small considering everything I'm sure it could be ziptied or fixed to something.   

Just with my current setup sitting on same shelf was my best option.  If i fixed it above it would be right under an S4.   With sitting beside for me they have a lot of room around the PSU.
7338  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 04:43:51 PM
Is it possible for you to SSH into the miner & tell me what version of cgminer they are using? I did ask on the Bitmain thread, but am not expecting an official answer anytime soon..... Tongue

I'd like to see a mainline cgminer in there, but I'm guessing it's their own forked version still?

Thanks  Wink

No problem at all.  It is cgminer 4.8.0 from what mine showed.    I would guess it is their own version did not verify that part.
7339  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 04:01:48 PM
its compact but with the amt of pcie needed +psu's it could be a mess.

My extra PCIe cables could be straitened up and it would have a tad more looking clean to it.    One thing you have to remember is it is using a LOT of power in a small space.  3436 watts is a lot of power to be used in the footprint of about 3 S5's as far as area.

Also if you rigged it with PSU hanging above it would be much cleaner look.  I did not do this as I have miners on shelf above it I did not want to put it right under the other miners.   So I really went with functional vs trying to make look pretty.
7340  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d on: August 20, 2015, 03:48:40 PM
Wow what a cable hog! Anyone implementing a ton of these needs to worry about cables being tangled up, but I guess mining isn't supposed to be pretty and neat.

Yeah I kinda wished it was closed on top so that you could at least put the power supplies on top of them.  I'm not sure what that would do for the heat but I have very limited space.

It would have been a nice touch if the PSU's had a spot to sit but that was not design they went for.  These units are VERY compact and the connect three of them together with a small footprint.   

I am just happy they used metal and 2 fans on each.   With the way they have blades placed and very easy to get to each one you do need to put them somewhere else.  I personally went with the side of miner as it was so small.  But I'm sure a larger scale mine could perfect it more hanging it above the miner with some rigging.
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