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7321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: April 15, 2017, 12:49:43 PM
When I already doubled my bankroll it is already a good momentum for me. I will going to save the half of it for my assurance that I don't have nothing to lose.

And with the remaining half, I'm going to save another half of it and will going to keep on using the half of it for gambling.
You are playing safe but it will not be safe all the time, the best way to treat your bankroll is you count your winning once you session is done already. That is being realistic and with that attitude, it will make you matured in gambling, when you set a bankroll, you also need to ensure that you have a target of winning and no matter what will happen you have to quit when you hit it already.
7322  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can you think , better time for trading ? on: April 15, 2017, 12:32:20 PM
My thoughts is in line with what you have said, assets should be bought when there are low in price and sold when there are high in price. The Best time to buy altcoins especially those that are low in price is now because with little Satoshi you can get them in quantity and coverts it again when there appreciate.
it is just as clear as that, make proper speculations, buy when the price is low and sell when high. from speculations now bitcoin has higher tendency of getting to $2000 before august.you can trade along.



in bitcoin history none of the speculations seems worked perfectly. Instead of doing this research just buy the bitcoins and put it into the cold storage. It will become a double or triple the amount within few years.
I don't think we may reach 2000$ peak before August. hope for the best.
but i think we can judge and speculate from the interest of the people. as we can see that in present time the interest of the people is to buy more and more bitcoin on the other side the users of bitcoin are also increasing from time to time, therefore we can expect that the price of bitcoin will increase more and more, therefore it will be a good decision to buy and hold bitcoin.
When speaking of price, I'm sure we can see more and more increases in the future to come, we are not seeing the best price yet and we will never gonna be panic if we are investing for long term. Bitcoin is the best invention ever, I am new to the crypto but I see how people adopted with it, check how the growth rate of bitcoin and you will be amaze the rate of increase.
7323  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: April 12, 2017, 05:24:39 AM
Trading is risk and risk is not for everyone, not everyone can handle that so I can understand this decision. If you want to be successful trader you have to put a lot in that and be determined to succed and make profit. This also brings a lot of stress and disappointments so many people quit.
Yes trading is not for everyone because some of us always wants an easy money earning field and they think that trading is like that but they didn't know the risk of trading where they can easily lose their money if they are greedy in choosing a coin or investing in altcoins. If you want trading then determination and hard work is a must.
Trading is for the people who have passion on it, I like to be a successful trader also but I know how hard the journey to be successful. I believe if we will work hard we can learn to master trading and the good thing with trading is when you will be able to master it already, you are gonna make constant profit, unlike in gambling that you are relying on your luck most of the time.
7324  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: April 12, 2017, 04:57:53 AM
Yes money helps , money grow Because more money you save you can invest in many asset class and you may get good returns rather than just putting on everything in one of the asset class . You can also give loan to friends and family and get interest on your principal amount .
To make money from money is a risky move, most of us do not take that as we are afraid to take risk, but people with big dreams are risk takers and they gamble on that situation so I guess we can also be successful if they were able to do that. What we are doing is very risky, even owning bitcoin will give you risk already but because we want to be rewarded with greater returns, we do it, so as much as we can afford what we invest, no problem with that.
7325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: April 12, 2017, 02:08:35 AM
When Gambling and emergency funds mix they usually don't end well. Gambling should just be a fun thing to do instead of it being a requirement for the person to do work on just so they could get paid. When people Gamble as a career with no experience they usually end up failing.
Gambling is just a game where you can get fun of it however you can make money through it but this does not mean you're not going to work hard for your self finding descent job. Yes it is true we can turn gambling into profitable activity but not for life or let say we could make it every other week or month I don't usually play gambling when it comes of emergency and needs funds coz the more you greed to get the money the more you lose and falling into trap.
Having a job would already give us a security in life but don't eliminate that security by killing your finances because of gambling. You can turn gambling into a profitable activity but you only have a lesser chance compared to the gambling sites who are operating for profit.
Your best chance is only to invest or make your own gambling site, unless you are an exceptional gambler like a professional poker player or sports handicapper, you won't make a great journey in gambling.
7326  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: April 12, 2017, 01:47:00 AM
If there is something you really want but you don't have the sufficient savings or funds then you should sell your bitcoin if you are in a profit. But if you recently purchased bitcoin or the thing you need is not so important like maybe a second car Tongue then keep it , it will surely increase in future.

I agree if you see that you are already in a profit or even if not, if you need money badly, it is the best time for you to sell.  At the end of the day it is what we need that is more important specially if the need is urgent.  But if you do not need money then I can say hold.  Bitcoin will increase in price and possibly break its ATH again.
That will be a big hindrance to your success if you spend the amount of bitcoin you have for your needs, it should be separate, for your needs you need to work for it in order not to touch your long term investment. When investing, we all need that discipline and as they say patience is a virtue but we cannot have that if we are not a discipline investor.
7327  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: April 11, 2017, 01:14:21 PM
Well if my earnings was gone. I think i would go into physical works because its more trusting. And its not always a guarantee that there is always internet. And we have some lending services.

Me too. I only work for bitcoin because somebody give me a starter pack or a starter investment. They actually refer me to a site where they gave free satoshi. If my earning was gone, I will push my dayjob and quit earning bitcoin. But that depends on what will be the situation
I would presume that you are receiving a big amount on that site that gives free satoshi, are we talking of faucets here or something?
Dude I guess, job is still very important as you can still do bitcoin jobs or investments even if you are working with your day job, that would sound
better having two source of income, isn't it? Smiley
7328  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - GET YOUR CUT FROM DAILY TREASURE CHEST! on: April 11, 2017, 12:46:14 PM
Been playing a little Black Jack lately even tho I have no idea what I'm really doing.  I think I'm playing the most inefficient betting strategy.  Lol.  Cheesy

Anyway, I wish we could have a new game like Open Face Chinese Poker or even Baccarat to get more action going.  Would those games be something in the pipe line for Bitdice?


Guy, even though you know what you are doing, its still not a guarantee to winning as the element of risk is always involved. Also, you should not forget that there are people who are equally better than you in any game which might even bring you back to the first place you were before pursuing another route to winning.
Well, I think it is still better if you know what you are doing, if you do not know what you are doing, you will surely not gonna appreciate the game.
Every gambler do gamble for fun so where is the fun there, it's okay to lose but at least you have fun to get your money's worth.
7329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: April 11, 2017, 05:24:06 AM
I believe that the biggest mistake of the player is when the person is not able to control his excitement and trying to win more or to win back your losses.

I consider that only as a worse not a worst mistake. I saw an article and read it that I consider it to be the worst mistake in gambling. He sold everything he got and even sold his wife because he has faced a lot of problems because of his addiction. And that's the worst and craziest thing ever I knew in gambling.

That's terrible. I think that person has a mental incapacity, or so addicted in gambling. Well in the first place, Gambling was only intended for entertainment. However, because there is a money involved, many are addicted in the sense that they want to win the money. Some are funding their wallets with a huge amount thinking that if they had a huge capital, they can win huge. But the other things happened.

Engaging in Gambling without discipline and a good mindset, that's what I consider the Worst mistake a person can do.

Without discipline will pose bigger risk as regardless of the amount you put, you will only subject to one result which is losing. Gambling is full or risk, therefore everyone must understand that in order to minimize that risk, he needs to follow whatever game plan he has in mind.
If you do not have a game plan, you are just gambling without direction and most likely you will end up losing.
7330  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 11, 2017, 04:51:00 AM
for me to save or invest it just the same but better try half to be stored and otherwise invest.

what do you think?


I think if you are not sure investing your money, then you better not invest for the moment. Investing is a really hard job, especially when you are not sure, you are putting your money into a risk where you yourself is not sure if it will be profittable or not, it is like engaging your underlings on a war without the possibility of winning and that is not a really good trait. I think, you just need to save, not invest.
Investment are only for people who are risk takers, if you are afraid of that never tried cause you won't succeed on it anyway. Investing requires good education and before we enter into investing, we have to understand all the necessary things to start. Capital is the most vital for success, if you start with small amount you will only possibly gain small amount, it's important to have a decent amount so you won't be wasting time.
7331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: April 10, 2017, 01:58:26 PM
Hi guys and girls! After making quite a lot of money then losing it and crying about it half the afternoon I have decided to give up gambling for good.  Its not for me in have a much too addictive personality. So now I just plan to work for casinos but not gamble.

The thing is you know you should cash out but you always want just that little bit more and then u lose the whole lot. I'm stupid and greedy. Right after I lost i put more in and doubled it then I went all in and lost it. So yes u can make a killing gambling with such a small about like a few dollars but then u lose all u make and waste a lot of time and energy and end up getting upset. Also i shake like mad when I gamble and I hate that. I tremble. When I lose I can't believe what the screen is telling me.

So any thoughts ? Ways to stop ? Ways to gamble with play money ? Maybe there are dust gambling casinoes I can use? U know just for fun and for the fix. Smiley
if you want to quit gambling first you have to promise yourself that not to go any gambling site, and the time which you gives to gambling in that time you need to entertain yourself with such hobbies that give you satisfaction and you need to make your daily routine for one or two months such like that that you don't have enough time to gamble then you will be able to quit gambling.
Usually promises are made to be broken, honestly it's easy to cheat ourselves, we can make promises anytime but we can always break that promises as well. Giving up could be very hard if we are too attached already but if we reflect on what gambling has made into our life, we might realize that we have to even if its hard, with that, we can make it possible even done in a long process.
7332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: April 10, 2017, 01:13:05 PM
The best moment of this NBA season will be when I watch Russell Westbrook win the MVP. The most deserved I have seen in quite some time. The man has been in beast mode this season.

I will not argue with you, he surely deserves to get the MVP title for this season. And I've seeing him play very well each of their games. He surely is a consistent player and he is making his career growth very fast. I didn't even know him way back years ago as I'm not a fan of him, but right now I can say that I'm a fan of him.
Westbrook will be the next Michael Jordan or better than Jordan? With the skills he showed, I am sure he will have a good team in the next season, thunder is a good team but he needs back up to continue the offensive flows and the moment he will be paired with another star who is willing to give way for the popularity and accepts that rule, I guess this team will be a tough team in the West.
This season for Russell Westbrook is one for the history books. It would be such a shame if he loses the MVP race to James Harden, although I feel that he also deserves it somehow. It's just that only one guy can win the award and I think that there's no player more deserving to win that than Westy. That 3-pointer and another triple double should be the final statement that he needs to make for a very strong case for that MVP award. Although I can't still compare him to MJ because MJ was brilliant until the day he retired and had 6 championships and multiple MVPs (regular season, Finals, All Star).
Westbrook is still young and he can do a a lot of things to be more better, I would not be surprise if he will be breaking his record after record. He has a great potential to be one of the greats in the NBA and shame to Durant for leaving him, it was only proven that the Thunder can still enter into the playoffs without him. Further, that Thunder is still not a good team compared to the warriors and Cavs who has achieve a championship but they are in the making and I'm very positive to that.
7333  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can you think , better time for trading ? on: April 10, 2017, 07:11:50 AM
Here everyone knows that the currently the price of the Bitcoin at the peak of the sky .
But due to the increase of the price the price of less famouse altcoins are became down .
So here is a better chance to buy some altcoins?
What is your thoughts about this guy's ? Share your thoughts  Cheesy
Many trader say same with this, many altcoin more cheap when BTC price up but we don't know when the BTC price down to make altcoin price up again, for me when the Bitcoin price up it's better to change my trading from altcoin to BTC-USD or BTC to my local currencies, more safer to still gain money.

BTC-USD trading is better then trading altcoins as altcoin market is full of risk due to major pumps and dumps so there is high risk of loosing money in quick time but with usd-btc trading you can expect some profits if you watch the price movements closely.
That would depend on a certain person because there are people who really love to take bigger risk, and bigger risk comes with big rewards.
Though it's risky but it can still give us success if we do our job, trading in altcoins are full of dumb money so you should not belong to them to make money.

Take advantage on their dumbness to make you grow as a trader, I have a friend who were able to turn less than 10 btc to 1,000 BTC because he is really good.
7334  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How is trading *not* gambling? on: April 10, 2017, 06:18:35 AM
Trading is different from gambling in trading you will learn technical and fundamental analysis with respect to trading unlike gambling which is like tossing of a coin.
Agreed.
Most of all gambling games is based on luck and we have more losses than winnings.
Unlike trading we have a control of our money flow.

Yeah making money from gambling will depend only on luck and no skills or strategy will help you in it but trading is far different and better way of earning money in compare to gambling as if you have good skills then you can make good profits from it.
Not all the time, sometimes you also need skills in order to win because that would only give you a chance to be consistent, when you are lucky you will win but human nature that we will not stop until we win a bigger amount that would satisfy us, so most likely our winnings will be lose again when we gamble again. I think it's a cycle but with luck only, we will also end up losing for sure.
7335  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: April 10, 2017, 04:57:21 AM
I will find an extra job and seeking extra job so that it easy to make money immediately.I would sell my thing and gadgets.And i will try to borrow my friend even if there is a profit and if i have a money i will go to gamble who knows maybe it might be win.
You'll probably do anything if you are in desperate situation, what is important is you stay away from doing illegal activities as that will just give additional problem. Thing is, all things is we have is useless if we cannot use it in the future, in emergency situation we need tot prioritize solving the problem and just be ready to sacrifice on selling things that we want but does not really needs the most.
7336  Economy / Services / Re: BitDice Casino Signature Campaign [WILL START 1 DECEMBER] on: April 09, 2017, 11:36:06 PM
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7337  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: April 09, 2017, 04:22:14 AM
There already is a bank. You ! You and every other person who uses bitcoin are the bank and the processing power to handle transactions is the miners.
These people who would like to see a bitcoin bank want it to be the same as like in the real life bank which only accepts fiat deposits and investment. I would not think it will be realize because these two (bitcoin and fiat) has separate banking features, one is centralized while the other is decentralized.
Actually, they should exist together to give people more options on how they do their banking and as I witness now, bitcoin is progressive because there are people who supported the current set up.
7338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: April 09, 2017, 03:54:36 AM
The only way you gonna win with martingale is if you had infinite bankroll. Which unfortunately isn't going to happen for anyone.

How martingale works is that on every loss you take your bet and double it with the same settings, and on wins you return to your base bet.

EVen if you bet with 20 BTC with a 1 satoshi base bet, you can still lose in the long run because eventually you will hit a shitty streak that will kill all your bankroll, even though it might seem unlikely to you. Also doing 1 satoshi martingale is a waste of time(and electricity for running your laptop).

If you're just gambling for fun, then i suggest that you just manual bet. It's more fun and entertaining, as you have control over everything instead of just watching the results as your bot does the work for you.
Martingale would in games where there is no house edge, but it's also important for a certain gambler to be knowledgeable and skillful on the game that he choose, blindly betting will make the method ineffective and it will only make your lose a bigger amount of money once you lose control.
I would always choose to control myself and stick to the plan, although we are using a martingale it should also be carefully plan, when to stop when wining and when to quit when we are losing hard.
7339  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: [helping thread]Tanong mo sagot ko on: April 08, 2017, 06:26:11 AM
salamat sa advice guys nakakainspire mga advice nyo sobra, ask ko lang sana kung ilang days/months kayo nag.umpisang kumita at nagcash.out ng btc dito sa forum?
Kung tutuusin kung signature campaign kahit jr.member pwede Na un ngalang maliit pa sahod niyan lalo na kung btc ang payment. mas maganda kung pag start mo may Twitter account kana din  para sumali ka Na din sa social media campaign btc o altcoin payment para kahit papano meron ka Nang Kita. Pwede kasi gamitin ang Twitter at sumali sa mag kakaibang campaign kaso may rules kasi  na dapat jr.member and up ang rank mo bago sumali.
This is correct, just look on a high funded ICO as most likely they will be successful just like what you are promoting sir, right?
There are a lot of campaign with bitcoin payment but they do not give good rates for Jr. Member, mostly Sr.+ has the privilege to enjoy a good rate.
Honestly, I was really surprise with the EDG signature campaigners as their bounty for Sr. Member account, will most likely be equal to 1 BTC now if they were able to start in the first week, EDG is rising as well as BTC so it's a good reward for them.

In altcoins campaign, your bounty has a chance to double or more than that if you will not dump automatically after you receive it, it needs patience really.
7340  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph Official Thread on: April 08, 2017, 05:40:34 AM
Kailan kaya magkakaroon ng Physical Debit Card itong coins.ph. Maganda sana yun para convenient yung pag withdraw ng funds.
For now there are no announcement yet, they have a virtual debit card only but I haven't tried it yet since I do not spend most of the time.
My money that I earn from trading and other forms of business online is directly deposited and withdrawn using their egive cash out which is very awesome.
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