Tier-1 anything is just marketing speak, definitely amounts to nothing. You could even downgrade gold to Tier 10 and people wouldn't budge from their gold either.

Zero-risk. Ah, such famous last words for many a business, speculator, even government who's ever deigned to describe a currency or asset they were backing.

Six more days to go, but quite a bit of hanky panky at 40k with them scalpers I think. But Man I really appreciate guys like you, proudhon, even if I thought you had to try harder before.

This place would be so dull if it were only filled with coiners and mooners. I do think you should be a little more subtle though. Then again, judging from majority of responses, you're doing a good job.

Here's me hoping my good old Electrum keeps consistent with adoption of new upgrades. Switching to native segwit was a natural progression for me, but admittedly only because Electrum supported it.


On my own anecdotal evidence, I don't know a single one of the services or clients I've had since 2017 whose made the full switch to native segwit (most have supported withdrawals to at least) although a couple of new ones I picked up since did.

And to be fair, I've also still retained P2PKH addresses -- haven't had to use it in a while but not ready to discard as it's still got a few of my old signing addresses.

I think there were at least a couple of very bad misses per side, but yeah Spain could very easily have lost this one if not for the (lack of) skill of the Swede frontmen. I actually thought their guy Isak was really really good, especially when he went at 3 defenders to deliver that Marcus Berg miss you're talking about. Except of course he did miss when he should have gone on target (the one where his shot deflected for an almost own goal).

I felt like there were too many times the ball got stuck in the pitch though, both sides, either failed clearance, miskicks, stumbles... it HAD to be the pitch?

Awful finishing from both Spain and Sweden means we have our first Countdown special money-back casualty (no 0-0 in group stage game). It was 19/1 on that one. Also another Special is affected (Italy, Belgium, England, Spain and Portugal to Win at 12/1), if Portugal do win, we at least get money back =D

On the bright side, I know have more money to throw at regular matches;) *grumbles at and blames Seville pitch*

HT. 6 points.

Hard to say. They had one heck of a chance the Swedes, and shot wide but almost gifted an own goal... Spanish plenty of chances but pretty wasteful in front of goal. Morata especially that miss.

6 corners all in all at half-time, hope to see a lot more corners but I think the pitch is somewhat ruining the passing for Spain. Swedes can't say, they've been chasing shadows most of the game.

Phew. Poles didn't help themselves with that red card and have fallen behind again to Slovakia. Czech win wasn't so much of an upset, so if the score stays the same, or Slovakia help themselves to another goal, then we should see the first upset of the tourney.

Not watching but getting ready for the last match of the night. Fiery stuff!

I spend about 20% of my time on mobile (1 day a week at least just on mobile) and I've almost forgotten what a pain it can be to read and comment on my phone, mainly because I've become such an expert at highlighting and deleting quoted texts ha...

It does take me perhaps 4 or 5 times as much time than it does on a keyboard. Not to mention if you touch a wrong button or go back by accident.

So, yeah, I'd welcome it. As SFR10 already says though, there's Epochtalk. You can join Discord and see more. Bot updates any new GH commits.

Actually was looking for this myself some weeks ago too. Does anyone know of any documentation of how it'll impact the end user in terms of visible changes? Most obvious would be the size of tx I guess but any other visible/obvious changes? Everything I find out there is high level but doesn't actually show me what I as an end user will/could do different.

Indeed. Am surprised Maasdamer would say it's the worst, when I really couldn't find anything better.

Odds alone were the best, as I mentioned, 15%++ more than any other bookie. Don't know about you, but I like winning more. Then the risk-free bit where worst case scenario, you get your coins back if it doesn't work out. Not a freebet back, but your wager back. That's as it good as it gets.

So this is offered every weekend? Definitely need to check Stake more often;)

Indeed! In fact, I took almost every special except the last few days of Countdown, mainly as odds weren't so great anyway and my entire bankroll was tied up haha.

We also have 19 goals so far with 7 games, which works out to an average of 2.69 goals per game. ALSO very good for the Over 120 goals Special, which needs an average of 2.4 goals per game to hit. So we're making good progress haha. No thanks to England for that...

Probably a good idea to track progress of all these specials, I'm doing them at the back of my head but might get some motivation to do it later this week;)


Nice one man! I've been betting on favs, but predicting upsets, so no 3/4s for me even haha.

It's not every day that I hit a parlay. Reasonably small one on favourites, and 4 slim wins to boot, so definitely one to celebrate, especially Netherlands I'd say who clawed back the victory from a potential booby trap that was Ukraine.

3 win days in a row too, to take us above 16,000 units of profit as the season end approaches. Very nice feeling!

Emboldened by favourites doing well, let's go for another parlay backing Scotland!

100 units at Sportsbet on Scotland, Spain, Poland and Argentina to WIN @10.81. Other odds: 10.21
Units advantage: 60

That was some match. 3-2 and it did reflect Ukraine's skill at the front, and a lot of luck on the Dutch side, but really they were helped on by poor goalkeeping from Ukraine I'd say -- now I know why the Dutch aren't favourites ha. Their keeper wasn't really tested either I'd say but he does seem a weak spot as well. So far, no upsets. My first freebet locked in with this win. Til tomorrow;)

Who else also keeping track of the yellow cards? Referring to the 6/1 special on every team to get a yellow card at group stages.

With Phil Foden's yellow, and Lainer's 85th min yellow (Austria), Italy, Denmark, Belgium, Russia are the 4 teams out of 12 to have played their first group game without yellows, with half of the teams left to go getting their 1st game. Italy I'm not worried about, nor Russia, but can easily see the Danes and Belgians easing their way out of group without cards if results go their way. Still, fireworks could set off on game 3. Not bad I guess? =p

Wondering what the situation is like for p2p exchanges though. We do know that centralised ones like Localbitcoins have been faring badly after introducing KYC requirements, there, deposits have been falling for some time now. But Bisq, Localcryptos and others, who were struggling at the start, I believe are seeing better volumes.

Traders/speculators probably aren't affected by price. The spreads are always there regardless and they're just keen on volume as that's where they make profit.

Also wondering about all those hopping off-chain... dare I say wrapped and all. Volumes there haven't slowed down as I understand. Wonder how that all fits into the Glassnode picture.

Ah, so it actually got approved, just read the confirmation too. But as Bryant points out, no market reaction.

I'd like to see some of those Miami conference dudes put money where their mouths were and start supporting this Salvador Bitcoin thing. And then maybe we start seeing some nodes pick up there, and maybe some good infrastructure for them merchants who let's also hope get an influx of Bitcoin spending tourists. Far end of the continent from Europe, but probably not for most of West Coast US?

No card, corner or goal for the last 25 minutes of England-Croatia ugh. Last time I bet on them was a Croatia upset during World Cup but glad I only put England on a parlay for this one. Dull huh?


I've heard variations of this statistically most common result but think it really does depend on the league/country you play in. Premier League and Championship games, it's been consistently 1-0 as the most common result, between 15-20% of all results for past few years. Also the most common scoreline of Liverpool's wins.

I look at the correct score market and in general, 2:1 has a lot of value. This is Euros, and we're already seeing two 3:0s, two 1:0s... I suspect we're going to get more 3:0s and 1:0s than more any other result. But that's not scientific, just my feeling looking at the groups and how they're set up.

Ack, I totally missed today, thought we wouldn't get the early kickoff but I suppose England had to feature! Was it even a good match? HT 0-0 and only a single card and single corner, was heading for the record books but for the 2nd half yellows and goal, game got going and the lowest-ever 6 from friendlies still stood strong.

Was on ClubTalk when Sterling scored, for those of us hoping for no 0-0s in the tourney;)

7 points at 72 minutes. This would be a legendary BJ if it hits!

Just thought to stop by and say it was a great Adesanya bet. A lot of us lost the first time round so his revenge was pretty cool. Also managed to score on 14/10 odds, which was by far the best odds anywhere around, almost 20% better, so hats off to you Stake.

Livestreams I haven't tried out fully yet but I agree, this could be the one unique factor that brings people like me back to the fold. I'll try it out over the next few non-football days;)

We should see mempool fill up again now that difficulty adjustment kicks in. Got all my urgent txs out to weather the small swell we should see.

A bit surprised there wasn't a bigger price action on the weekend though... Maybe some last min Sunday swings before our Far East friends take over?