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7341  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 11, 2017, 05:18:37 AM
Warriors Vs Grizzlies

Warriors have lost against the Grizzlies twice in this season. The latest loss against Grizzlies comes in a game where Warriors managed to throw away the game after leading by 24 points. I would predict Warriors will play in a more defensive way to keep their defense tight and Kevin Durant will be focusing on the game tomorrow at Oklahoma instead. This game will most likely be under points as Warriors tightened their defense.
My bet is on under 215 points.

bet on under points is dangerous when the Warriors are playing. I would just don't bet if I believed that game would be under, there are other good games
True, especially when they dominate the game. The warriors were able to beat the Memphis Grizzlies at home and finally, they break the streak of the Memphis against them. The line is very low for the Warriors since they lost twice in a row against this team but tonight they made a revenge, we should be happy now.
right they already show some defense until the last period and they didn't ruin their leads, warriors really play with clay dominating the points
its really hard seeing the trio play good games they are aiming for a good streak and revenge if we can call it like that.
The good thing is they were able to adjust, if this team will face in the playoffs, you know who would you put your money. As for me, I like the warriors now as they have figure out how to play defense as well, my only fear is when they will face a much more stronger team like the Spurs.
7342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Strategy and Lost in GAMBLE on: February 11, 2017, 03:18:53 AM
in gambling dice I often use martingale strategy it's the general strategy but can generate profits as long as not greedy. in sportsbetting I prefer choosing a team that has a chance to win big, and of course see the details of the game
In dice game martingale is a very famous strategy, martingale is effective/non effective strategy depending on how you will use it. You just dont need to be greedy. In sports betting you cant assure that the higher odds will surely win, Before betting on a team I am investigating first where to bet.
You call it handicapping games, which I believe is very important as this game is not a luck based game but rather a skilled based games. The statistics is very important and the relevant information that would affect your handicapping, when you are inform and you analyze well, you have a better chance to win especially in the longer run.
7343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 11, 2017, 03:02:08 AM
I've tried using the analysis to gambling sports such as soccer, basketball, boxing and several other types of sports. But I've experienced is just the same. Opportunities won and lost is same, so I've not been interested in using analysis for gambling and rely more on luck.
You don't have to give up, along the way you can learn and eventually you can see more techniques that would give you a win. Games should be analyze that is why we are in sports betting, the key cannot be found easy because that is developed and you can only have that if you will not lose hope and stop.
7344  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: February 10, 2017, 03:39:39 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas
investment is not easy to earn a profit you must have a strategy like Diversification strategy and the strategy of Rebalancing, and investments require a lot of money to get a steady income that is commensurate with the time spent. investing doesn't mean you without actively doing anything
Everything can be learn, your concern when you start to invest should be on your capital. Know what you can afford to invest, that amount you put has no guarantee if it will grow or you can lose it. Choose the right investment for you, there are plenty of investment but we should select what we think we will perform better. Bear in mind that it is not a game and you will not gonna earn steady income with investment, so you have to be more careful.
7345  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Strategy and Lost in GAMBLE on: February 10, 2017, 02:04:07 AM
My Strategy is to never change the bet size  whatever may be the result of it. I will change only if I have doubled my money or if I have lost half of my money.  If I doubled my money, I'd increase my bet size by50% of the current one and if I have lost 50% of my bankroll the I reduce my betsize by 50%. Works really well for me.

I think this is the safe play to good to implement in gambling strategy, if you considering your money in your balance.

But it's not applicable in such games like dice, the safe way to play in that game is to put the win chance not less than 60 I think.
If you have been gambling longer, you will realize that there is not safe plays in gambling. It is a risky game in the first place, so no matter what odds we are selecting, it will not guarantee us a win. Let's be realistic and learn how to manage the risk, never bet blindly.
7346  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: February 10, 2017, 01:36:05 AM
No.
I think I saw a ICO trying to tote itself as one.
BankIQ I think it was called. But I could be wrong about it.
Anything to do with an ICO is just wrong.
Not stable investment at all.
Nice I think also so, the bank will be a lot of rules that make us as a user of bitcoin is limited. I do not like the banks because much of the cost. I thought this was nice like bitcoin and no need for bitcoin bank.
If you are satisfied with the current system now, then I guess there is not need for a bitcoin bank anymore. The government should not interfere with our freedom to spend our bitcoins, this system gives us a fast and a transparent transaction, in addition the real privacy is achieve by using bitcoin unlike in banks where it can be compromise.
7347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 10, 2017, 01:23:12 AM
Depends in what or on what your investing and the time period. If you are looking for something quick and easy a large investment for a shorter amount of time makes sense as you need quick money. If you are looking for something more stable and secure a smaller investment for a longer time period makes more sense.
For smaller amount to invest, we should be more aggressive by taking more risk. Putting it in a casinos is profitable but you will not be getting a good amount of profit. One must be aware on how much you can potentially earn by putting your money in a casino's pot. Having said that, I guess the most viable way to grow your money is by trading alone.
7348  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 09, 2017, 08:21:36 AM
Bitcoin can't make bank disappear. Bitcoin and banks are completely different things.

Banks will not be allowed to provide Bitcoin related services unless Bitcoin is centralized and regulated. Bitcoin and banks are not competitors.

Also banks don't need to improve anything to reach Bitcoin and I don't understand why some posters think that Banks are technologically behind of Bitcoin. Internet banking system is well established and more advanced technology compared to Bitcoin. Conversely Bitcoin is new and is subject to be improved until it's established. There is no competition between Banks and Bitcoin as they are really different things. They provide different services to different type user base.
Yeah, Its like saying if there's digital money, will banks still run? Of course banks will still run without a problem. If bitcoins really grows and is adapted by the society at large. Then we might see some banks adopting bitcoins into their system.
Banks want to dominant the financial world and they would not allow bitcoin to rule, the bank will not adopt with the blockchain system as they cannot adopt a decentralized system. Whatever improvement bank will make, the centralization will always considered and shall remain.
As always, they are doing it because the government are on their side. We believe that bitcoin will give us freedom but without the support of the government we cannot continue to enjoy it. The future is still not a guarantee for success although the current status would imply a bright future.
The government will do things in their favor, so we should not trust so much with our investment to minimize the risk.
7349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: February 09, 2017, 05:19:04 AM
i can't control my self when gambling especially when i won fpr multiple times
i want it again and again although always get losses at the ends

Well that is what I feel too when I win a lot of games for many times. But I will have enough time of controlling myself. Because I keep on believing myself that I can get a lot of money when I will keep on playing and that's what I decided every time I play and my promise to myself that I'll control my own emotion is always broken.

I also experience this before when I win for multiple time but your self is telling you to play more because this might day I will win over the house. Obviously in the end I lost. Controlling yourself is a key for you to stop when you got the thing that you wanted. It's really hard to control once it triggered but by the will you can stop it.
Ourselves are deceiving us because if we are going to in front of other gamblers or people we may say that it is easy to gamble and control ourselves. And we are not going to think of any problems from it but that's the real deal when we are in the scene and we are playing, it is really hard to control ourselves because of emotion.
But you have to, that is what you call responsible gambling. You will not last with lack of discipline and you might end up living a miserable life because of being irresponsible. Remember, whatever happen to us, we should not blame it to gambling, let's be brave and blame ourselves.
7350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: February 09, 2017, 05:08:59 AM
The best way to quit gambling for good is to engage with other activities like sports and something that could divert your fun away from gambling. There are many ways which you could use computer games and listening sounds that is very lively. Most important is your betting amounts could be adjusted and the number of days in a week you are going to gamble should be adjusted.
I think these are totally useless, dealing with other things empties a headache but does not stop playing gambling. The person who will stop playing gambling must promise his brain and mind first. Anyone who has already gambled has won once and he does not want to leave easily. I think the most logical thing is that we have to promise to quit this job first.

Later on we will deal with other activities and empty our minds and start to forget about it in time.
Changes should be done and gambling should be eliminated in our life, we have to replace it with something that is helpful to us and that can give us a very productive life. It's a disease and we have to take that away in our life the soonest as living a life with gambling addiction will make us live in a miserable life.
7351  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: February 09, 2017, 03:52:07 AM
Trading is hard because there's no way to know where the bottom is or where the top is on any given day or week. You just have to make good judgments and don't panic buy or panic sell. It's best to wait for a spike in price to sell and a dip in price to buy back.
People who panic are those who have no proper education about bitcoin, it's normal that the price will rise and fall but with timing, we can take advantage and make profit on the event. Since bitcoin is volatile, day traders can make profit and that is not easy if you are just guessing without reference.
7352  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 08, 2017, 07:49:47 AM
In gambling site, many of the gamblers are not rich, only few of them are rich. But most of them believed that instantly they will become rich in gambling, their putting their
fortune into gamble for hoping they can hit the jackpot. Sometimes other community in bitcoin world they use gambling sites to grow their bitcoin, even for a small amount of satoshi they save it little by little.
No rich would last to gamble in a gambling site, they play it for fun as they are busy managing their business in the real world. Most of the gamblers are looking for great opportunity to earn a big amount of money so they can live a comfortable life. Our aim is very unrealistic considering our chances is very low but still we are too positive we can achieve it. We can't blame gamblers if they think that way, the reward is very tempting.
7353  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 08, 2017, 03:31:27 AM
I just had an Epiphany while reading the thread title. What if sometimes we lose our gambling earning for the day so we won't be prideful? Living a nice humble life is where it is at, maybe that is why we lose sometimes.

We all hope to win but when we actually win some money maybe we use that losing experience in the past to remain humble. Do you feel me?
Being humble does not apply in gambling, the fact the we lose most of the time, our pride will be overflowing once we have a winning experience. Obviously, more gamblers are losing their money than those who can earn, so we have all the freedom to take the moment to express our enjoyment and feel how good we are.
7354  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: February 08, 2017, 03:22:09 AM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?

If i have lot of money i will invest my money in real estate, gold and then online. I dont want invest my money in hyip or other pyramid schemes, i only want invest money online for exchange
With a decent capital, you do not have to risk with this high paying but risky investment, most of them goes to scam in a short period of time. With your capability to invest a bigger amount, I guess you can minimize the risk, you can invest in a legitimate investment that could give you consistent income although not that big like the HYIP.
7355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 07, 2017, 06:18:20 AM
When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?
all the investment value i think it makes sense even if it's small investment, does not make sense if the profits you earn is not worth the time you spend on it (investment) and i think 0,01 is not worth
We invest based on the amount that we can afford to lose, having a small amount of money is not a hindrance for a person to invest. You can start with $1 and end up with $100,000. There is no impossible in the world of investment, it's the game of the smart people and when you are smart and keep doing what makes you profit all the time, in the long run you will grow your money substantially.
7356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If today was your last day, would you gamble everything? on: February 07, 2017, 03:21:59 AM
I wouldn't gamble in my last day. What the reason if I can't enjoy winnings next day?
I'd rather spent this time with family and friends. And probably have fun with money I've already had.
Very well said, any outcome does not gonna make you happy, when you lose you will also die sad. Family is really the most important to us, and with the little time remaining for us in this world, we should spend it with them so when you die, you can still remember the happy moments in your life and  with that you will die happy.
7357  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Money laundering via BTC on: February 07, 2017, 02:20:22 AM
Our governments will always have a hard time controlling money laundering to a minimum because people always find ways to evade such government actions. Even if its by way of bitcoin or some other currency, it will not really matter because some people are smarter than the others and always one step ahead when it comes to stuff like these.
They can't control but they can prevent if from happening, at least just to mitigate it. Bitcoin for now is very effective as a tool for those money launderer as it is not yet fully regulated by the government, but when time comes that the risk for the government will be bigger, they will surely gonna focus on bitcoin.
7358  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: February 07, 2017, 02:08:52 AM
I often think to quit gambling, but I feel it is difficult because the extremely powerful gambling desires let alone when there is spare time. may I include addict gambler so most of the time I spend on gambling.

All types of addiction are like that. Even we wanted to quit gambling for good but still we are not able to help ourselves because the power of addiction is dragging us to keep on doing it. Gambling addiction is one of the hardest enemy when it comes on quitting, you are fighting with yourself and we can say that do something else to quit addiction but that is not an easy thing.

Yup all types of addictions are same, we will decide to quit but we can't it's very tough to stop any addiction activity. It is fighting b/w your mind and your greed. Your mind will say to stop gambling, but your greed will make you play gambling. You can handle this situation. If you can handle this situation means have self-control you can try to stop any addiction.

Yes our conscience is really hard to fight because even you really want to say that you are not going to gamble anymore. You mind will say, "Don't worry, it's fine you can quit tomorrow. Don't waste the chance of winning for this day." A gambler can't quit alone he needs to be guided by his friends, parents and other tools that can help him in quitting.
lol, that's not your conscience, because your conscience would tell you what is the right thing to do, unless gambling is really right for you. I guess it is the addiction already, we cannot quit because we do not want to let go, we feel we have to achieve something and we will either lose everything or get it.
7359  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 06, 2017, 01:01:01 PM
Yes, trading is like gambling in many ways. First of, like in gambling no one can actually predict what will happen next. In gambling it's about what number you will roll or what card will appear next. In trading it's about which coin will be pumped today and which will be dumped. Second, like in gambling, the higher the amount of money you risk in trading the higher your profit might be in case your predictions were right ones.
If you think like that then i have to say that any form of investment is like gambling.When it comes to trading you have to consider the fundamentals and the future prospects if you are planning to invest a serious amount of money and that is not the case with gambling as gambling is pure luck and does not have any fundamentals.
True, when money goes out of our hands then there will be no control/recovery will be possible which are typical characteristics of gambling. So trading or investments are just an improved versions of gambling. But literally we are taking risks and we are gambling our hard earned money.
If you say an improve version of gambling then it is gambling, I don't think that way. Trading is very different in gambling, in gambling you can have fun because the main purpose why it is created in to entertain gamblers that is why there is a house edge, that characteristics is not present in trading, so no.
7360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: February 06, 2017, 12:46:58 PM
Gambling for entertainment and in moderation should be alright. As long as you know the odds are not on your side.

People that are making gambling as a real source of income it is really a wrong thing. But if you are just gambling for fun and you know what you are doing, that's not wrong. Don't mislead yourselves in gambling because there are times that gambling is for us but there are times also that it is not really for us.
If you are getting what you are expecting, I guess you are not doing the wrong thing. Honestly, it's very hard to make gambling as a source of income and for those who can do that, they have a very lucky life, they will live with ease and just spend a little time to abuse the gambling site.
That's the dream for most of us which is to make easy money from gambling, we never stop despite the fact that we have donated a lot of money in the charitable gambling sites bankroll. We can think of that way, just lighten up a bit depression we feel. I think we will never gonna be successful as it's not easy, just saying my capacity because it's good to be honest, just to minimize the loses.
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