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7361  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the big whales are not cashing out? on: December 08, 2016, 10:16:12 AM
There are two types of Bitcoin whales;

1] Trading whales -

2] Holder whales (e.g. Roger Ver, Satoshi, etc) -

You are directly referring to 2] where you are basically answering the question yourself for a certain part already. The main reasons of them not selling any of their coins, or at least not a significant amount, is indeed out of fear for the government. But also the fact that they strictly believe in the future of Bitcoin, in the way that they can become some sort of an elite at some point in the far future. This definitely goes up for someone as Roger Ver.

Another reason is that a significant amount of their stash is sitting unknown in a huge number of different wallets. Imagine what would happen if the governments notice you have been declaring your wealth wrongly to the tax agency for years, and later turns out that your wealth isn't $50 million for example, but $250 million. It will be a direct hit of tens of millions $$ including fines at everything.
7362  Economy / Speculation / Re: That was a great dip on: December 08, 2016, 09:41:23 AM
I recently saw an article that says bitcoin could hit 2000$ with the help of the coming president trump.

 A report by Denmark-based Saxo Bank claims bitcoin’s price could rise by 165% to more than $2,000 due to an economic stimulus expected from incoming President Trump. The bullish bitcoin outlook is one of 10 Saxo Bank “Outrageous Predictions for 2017.”

I never add any value to such predictions. Mainly because of the fact that 99% of the times they are way off with their predictions. Speculating about prices far higher than $1000 doesn't really make any sense as we are still a decent amount below the $1000 level. Right now we should focus on reaching the $800 level, which already can be seen as a more than difficult target. The fact that we are only ~$30 away from reaching $800 doesn't change anything in that regard.
7363  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1000+ is anytime now on: December 08, 2016, 09:18:30 AM
Nope this will not happen anytime now, we still have to wait on it and I do not think it will happen in this year anymore, it will most likely happen in the beginning of the next year.

You know what the great thing is here? It doesn't have to happen. Smiley And if it doesn't happen, no one (beside noobs) will get disappointed as we are sitting at more than decent price levels right now. People hoping for $1000 to happen this year are either living in a fantasy world, or they think we can reach the $1000 level as easily as was the case in 2013.

I would say a crash between now and January next year is pretty much guaranteed as all of your 'to the moon' predictions, again, didn't come true.

Not many times I can find points where I agree with you, but this is definitely one of the very few. I am also expecting a decent correction to happen any time soon. I go for sub $700 to happen before the end of January.
7364  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: December 08, 2016, 08:39:13 AM
First of all, Bitcoin seems not to be used widely as a currency simply because there are not too many merchants accepting it and not because the fiat payment processors are somehow more efficient than Bitcoin.

Even if all stores were accepting Bitcoin, then it will receive its Bitcoin related revenue from Bitcoiners, and not the average person that is still using fiat. You know why? You first have to obtain Bitcoin through whatever way in order to start spending it. With fiat, you can spend it right away with zero fees. So tell me, why would a non Bitcoiner even consider taking the step to buy Bitcoin, and then spend it when he can purchase everything with fiat already? It's an unnecessary extra step that doesn't make sense.

Besides that, the monetary function of storing value is obviously standing in the way of the means of exchange function. Fiat is typically considered as a poor store of value overall, which gives it advantage over Bitcoin (if that could be called so at all, of course). The latter seems to be another reason for not using Bitcoin as a currency

Fiat is a horrible store of value, and I personally find that it shouldn't be seen as such where the value part does not make any sense as fiat currencies around the world only lose value. So yes, Bitcoin is the leader in this aspect, but I have already pointed out this feature to be more important in the coming years. People are looking to escape this slavery system. Bitcoin is perfect for that.
7365  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: December 07, 2016, 12:49:14 PM
With less than a month before 2016 is over, it's pretty obvious this big crash won't happen, it's just too improbable to even fathom such event would happen considering the world economy is relatively stable in terms of fundamentals right now. It's more believable though to consider the price of bitcoin would hit the $1000 level by the end of this year, looking on the trading trends and recent developments.

Realistically speaking, we will not hit the $1000 level this year. If we want to experience a sustainable growth, and we're definitely on the right track to achieve this, then we must be preparing ourself for $1000 prices somewhere in mid 2017 to end 2017. This year comes way too soon. If we indeed happen to reach $1000 this year, then we'll be heading towards the south within a week. We all know that peaks don't last. I much rather prefer to wait a year where we have the price stay above $1000 for a decent amount of time, than reaching $1000 right now where after that we'll be facing heavy dumps which will be very time consuming to recover from.
7366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: December 07, 2016, 12:38:52 PM
i do not think that bitcoin will be use for illegal activity because bitcoin is crypto currency and crypto currency can be use for online shopping and now we can buy online product through bitcoin and bitcoin is really too much modern and stronger currency.

Bitcoin isn't any different from money, and especially not when it comes to how people use money. In that regard, yes, Bitcoin is in fact being used for all kinds of shady purposes. But the same goes up for fiat currencies around the world. The main point of attention is that we shouldn't blame the tool for being used in a wrong way, while people are the ones that should be blamed and punished. Look at cars for example, you can drive with it from your home to your working place, or you can drive your car into a crowded bar where you can kill plenty of people at once. Do we have to blame cars for that? Nope. Same is the case with Bitcoin and fiat, and all other things that can be used as currency tool.
7367  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: December 07, 2016, 11:51:41 AM
Fiat will never be worthless .there will be both ways of payments .and the price of bitcoins rising to 10000 dollars is a long way to go .and by that time it may have hapen many countries might banned the digital cryptocurrency bitcoins .kudoos Smiley

Bitcoin growing too large to the point that it can damage a certain economy, will indeed result in heavy actions by the government. But I don't think that the price reaching levels into the higher thousands will do much, unless they notice that people use Bitcoin (magnitudes more than is the case right now) to hide money, or to transfer wealth from one country to another. That's when governments will definitely take serious actions against Bitcoin. But not to the point that a total Bitcoin ban will become reality. Can't see that happening.
7368  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC at $1,000 by Christmas? on: December 07, 2016, 11:04:34 AM
Usually before Christmas, people have a lot of expenses associated with family and trips. Very few people choose to invest in this period. About $1,000 we may forget, I will be glad if Bitcoin price manage to cross $800 until end of December.

Regular people that you are indirectly talking about, don't even make a dent in the price. It's a group effort from whales that gets the price to move into a certain direction. I am already happy with how the price has been trying to build itself around the $750 level. Not long ago it was a point where heavy resistance was preventing the price to smash through $750, and now we're finally over that point. The only question is how long will it last? It doesn't take much for certain large traders to dump out of boredom.
7369  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Kill The Income Tax on: December 07, 2016, 10:36:44 AM
this is not entirely true because first of all bitcoin is mostly an investment not our salary or day to day money to spend. and also it is because of this simple thing that there aren't taxes yet on bitcoin and its usage. and that will change if bitcoins starts to become more popular for payments and for salary.

Bitcoin itself isn't directly being taxed, but if you think logically, then Bitcoin isn't any different from money or anything else with value. The main point is that it adds up to your wealth, and over your wealth you have to pay tax every year. It also goes up for the profits that you have made with Bitcoin. You must pay tax over that as well. However, it's your honesty here that plays the most important role since you have the choice to declare everything like should be done, or to keep quiet about your Bitcoin holdings. That's also one of the main reasons the IRS has been asking Coinbase to release all kinds of information regarding its users. If you don't declare your coin holdings yourself, they will do everything to chase you down.
7370  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [2016-12-04]Mining company HaoBTC has launched a hash rate-exchange on: December 07, 2016, 10:07:08 AM
It's basically what cex.io has been doing for a long time already. No matter how you turn it, hash shares are a horrible investment as the difficulty only goes up in numbers, and thus the price of these shares only get lower. You'll need to treat it as a short term investment where you benefit from the fluctuations. It's an easy way of making money for HaoBTC, where they can increase the maintenance fees to such a level, that the small part that gets credited to your account for every found block, will vanish nearly insantly.
7371  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: December 07, 2016, 09:51:16 AM
I think the user is bitcoin in this world is about 5% of the world population. This is because the bitcoin is very popular in china contributed about 15% of the entire world population. We all know, in China bitcoin is very popular.
i think a huge number of people are using bitcoin in huge amount because there is many countries their people are using bitcoin in huge amount and i think bitcoin is very much popular in rich countries and bitcoin users is very much lower in poor countries.

It depends on what kind of usage you are talking about when you say that Bitcoin is popular in wealthy countries. If you look at the currency aspect, then wealthy countries will have less incentive to use Bitcoin as currency tool as their fiat based payment platforms outperform Bitcoin in any possible way. If you're talking about the store of value aspect, then yes, more and more people are realizing that storing a part of their money outside the banking and governmental system is the way to go. People in poor countries have way less access to internet and capable devices, so in that regard it's easy to assume that the overall usage there is lower than for example in better developed countries.
7372  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1000+ is anytime now on: December 06, 2016, 11:27:35 PM
We're on early December now and looks like the price has settled down at $760 but keep fluctuate due to people who sell their coins if the price has a little increases, I don't see the point of it (little profits or instant profits I guess). Why we don't wait and be patient for bitcoin price continue to increasing and see what the result by the end of the year, but I don't think the price will reach $1000 instead of around $800.

People have different forms of trading. If you look at Chinese exchanges with zero fees, then it is perfectly suitable for ultra fast traders benefiting from even the slightest price change. If you trade with 3BTC and you sell these coins at $3 profit each, then it will be $9 which is peanuts. But if you do that with at least 500BTC, and then several times a day, then do the math. It will make you thousands of dollars every day. Doesn't sound all that bad, right? If you do that 100-150 days per year, or even a full year, then you'll be a very happy person where you can quit your day job as this will be your main source of income.
7373  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: December 06, 2016, 11:15:37 PM
what? i can understand that a bank asks some questions if you handle big sums of money or have unusually big transactions that you usually do not have, but this sounds bad. do you have to answer them? i would consider to look for another bank.
 

Yes. If you do not answer and show proof to everything they are asking for, they will put your money on hold for as long as their investigation is running. Funny thing is that I just came from a different bank. I signed up at the bank I am talking about because my previous bank told me to immediately stop using that bank account in combination with Bitcoin. But in general there is not much difference between banks as they are subject to the same laws.
7374  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we start new year in $800+ or remain in $700+ on: December 06, 2016, 09:57:14 AM
its a good to reach $800 in the new year, but its 25 days again into new year and i am not sure we can see that price because bitcoin has not been getting up for signifant in a week later. so maybe will stick around in the $760-$790, but if its more than $790 then the chances to go into $800 will possible.

Everything above the $700 level is a more than decent price for the majority of the people. If we happen to reach the $800 level, which I don't think will be maintained for too long, then it's a welcome bonus. Don't forget that a correction from a decent level is imminent at current prices. Nothing only goes up without experiencing corrections from time to time. It will make the market healthier, and allow people that have got in at far below current levels to secure profits, where after that we can focus on going up again.
7375  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: December 06, 2016, 08:37:41 AM
Then how do I buy Bitcoin?

I need a bank account to do it.
Actually you could able to buy bitcoin without the need of a bank account since you could able to do transactions with p2p and any other ways that some people do usually use.Banks are good for the security of our money especially on huge amounts but as i saw on the situation of OP i dont know whats the exact reason why his account been froze on such reason.

There are indeed several ways of buying Bitcoin without a bank account, but mostly they are not that convenient. I personally prefer buying Bitcoin with my bank account as it is very easy and I receive my coins instantly. If you want to buy Bitcoin with cash money for example, you first need to find a person in your area that you also can't trust (high trust rating on sites doesn't matter), then you have to talk through the deal where you set a time and date, then you have to wait for one or more confirmations depending on the size of the transactions, etc. And then I didn't even mention the possible steep fees that people charge for selling coins. Too much hassle.
7376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin 2017 Predictions on: December 06, 2016, 08:21:24 AM
There are many nearly to the reality predictions. Many things has happened this year, begin from bitfinex hack, main and important - halving and etc but it's price is nearly 750$. Many people are interested in mining, which isn't so profitable anymore and while many people are atracted and small number of bitcoin is mined, it will be logical if we'll see it's price nearly 1000$ or a little bit higher.

Even when things look logical and are very likely to happen, then still there is a fairly significant chance that it will not happen. It's a market that is being controlled by a few very wealthy entities operating from several exchanges at the same time. If they want us to slowly glide into a long lasting bear market, then it happens. If they want to push the price to +$1000 levels, it will happen as well. We move in their desired direction as a bunch of sheeps and feed ourself with the crumbs left by them.
7377  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: December 06, 2016, 08:06:29 AM
When you bring cash to a bank office in order to open a deposit account, do they ask where you got the money from?

Sure they do. I have opened a bank account recently where I had to fill in details as to what my salary is on a monthly basis, what I think I will receive on my bank account from sources other than my job salary on a monthly basis, what my previous monthly saving amounts are, etc. All kinds of annoying questions. I sent a certain amount to this freshly opened bank account from the one I was about to close, and oh man, it took me 2 days to convince them that it was my own money that I have been saving throughout the years. All this because of all the Bitcoin related transactions in my previous bank account.

Things aren't easy nowadays. If you at the time of signing up for a bank account have stated that you expect to receive like €500 per month from different sources (other than from your job), but there are a few months that you receive far more than that, they will contact you where you better have all details they want directly, otherwise it can take days, perhaps weeks before they complete their investigation.
7378  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children on: December 06, 2016, 07:46:03 AM
Bitcoin are not really for children, they have to understand it. It's important to ensure that they are capable to comprehend so they will be able to do it right

The younger generation knows more than we think. They are well aware of all the tech related things which Bitcoin is definitely one of. But then there is a difference in understanding what Bitcoin really is. Some people do give Bitcoin credits for all its fantastic features, while others still think it's some sort of a ponzi scheme.

bitcoin pose risk to children knowing that there are a lot of illegal activities we can use with bitcoin including gambling which is not good for them.

Bitcoin makes it indeed very easy to gamble as there is no need for verification, but that's basically also the case with fiat based gambling sites. You can sign up with fake details, but the negative point is that they then can't withdraw as they need to send in scans of their ID. Or they can use the details of their parents if they want to start gambling so badly. There are enough ways to bypass restrictions.
7379  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting porn sites to accept bitcoin on: December 05, 2016, 11:33:47 PM
Major websites of this industry i.e the biggest one being Brazzers has already started accepting bitcoin since early 2014 in a few of their websites. Another big one is porn.com which is accepting bitcoin. The main reason for people who use bitcoin to watch premium porn is they don't want their wives to find out in their credit card statement the name of the website. It can be the other way around though. It may be that the wives don't want their husbands to find out. That's the beauty of bitcoin, endless opportunities.

Privacy aspect is definitely a big plus when it comes to paying with Bitcoin at porn sites. But another major aspect as to why Bitcoin is perfectly suitable for being used in this case, is that you can avoid being sucked into recurring monthly bills with credit card and other payment methods. Bitcoin allows you to pay for one month or another term, without the possibility of the site in question charging you automatically for another period.
7380  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Domain] MtGox.co on: December 05, 2016, 11:24:25 PM
names ok but .co not a really good .tld so my bid will be 0.001

.co domains are a great alternative to .com domains, and mostly attract a decent amount of traffic as people tend to mistype the .com equivalent of the .co domain. Beside that, Google is also indexing .co domains nicely compared to other domains.

Starting bid is and will remain 0.05BTC and not a Satoshi lower!
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