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7381  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: March 22, 2017, 06:37:24 AM
Both options are fine but are different in their nature, in investing you rely on someone else to make your money grow for you, if you don’t have time to do it yourself then this is a good option, trading in the other hand relies on you knowing what to do with your money so you can obtain profits.
if you have more confidence in yourself than in others it would be better if you choose to trade it will depend on your skills and earnings will not be limited
Confidence comes with great knowledge, you trading because you believe on your skills but you need to prove it. Trading and investing are both good but everyone has their own expertise and we only need to focus on one to properly educate ourselves which is the main key for our success.
They can make your reach depending on how you manage yourself, if you take bigger risk, the result of success will also be bigger.
7382  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Manila meron na daw mga Maute jan on: March 22, 2017, 03:33:36 AM
Terrorist are everywhere and they are funded to destroy the government who does not favor them, with duterte's administration, we have seen a lot of improvement and the president is delivering his promises although not all but everything is on process and the right time will come.
If there will be rebellion and the lawlessness will happen, the president will declare martial which I think would be good for the benefit of the Filipino people.

Now, if you are thinking of a possible manipulation by the present administration, we cannot tell about that but all we have to do is trust him if you vote for him.
7383  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: March 22, 2017, 02:56:26 AM
Lol, it's not possible because they will print more if the current is exhausted.
Also, the people will never use all their fiat to buy bitcoins.

They aren't going to print more that will make the economy in chaos if the government will print more. It's simple that whatever the price of bitcoin, fiat will remain and will be the favored medium of transaction and payment of government. Because they are the one that regulates it, unlike with bitcoin it's decentralized.
yap for decentralized what happens to fiat will not affect bitcoin and vice versa for bitcoin and why despite prices of bitcoin reached highs fiat will remain because fiat is legal payments

Yes fiat will always remain though there are credit cards, crypto's and other ways of payment. Still the government will always rely to fiat because they have total control for it. And if the value of bitcoin will even reach to $10,000 then probably many fiat users are going to migrate and invest to bitcoin by that time.
It would be beneficial for us to have a different option to spend, there are fiat and crypto currencies and since the new generation will most likely be more on digital currencies, bitcoin who is the leading crypto currency will surely progress. The right time will come as we need more time to continue the development and to capture the awareness of the people.
7384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in Bitcoin Casinos are really worth it? on: March 21, 2017, 07:27:20 AM
If your investing big amount it's really worth you can get big percentage of investment when you are going to put 1 bitcoin in casino and it's really worth to trust those who had big names and positive review for their past investments.

If you want to get a profit from investment casino need to make a profit, then only investors will get that portion of that profit. If you invest more money than profit will be more otherwise, it will be less. But many trusted sites not giving good profits to investors since couple months.

Could give some of those sites who are not giving good profits to their investors because I'm planning to invest for some reputable gambling sites. Even though I know that not all the time there is profit, there are also loss but still I just want to make sure if those sites you have is what is on my mind to invest with their bankroll casino.
You better make your analysis simple, gambling sites in overall is really profitable as they win in the long run. Investing in gambling sites will not make give you a profit overnight, it requires you to hold longer and you need to have that patience to be able to hold that long. The problem will arise if you will invest only a small amount of money and you aim for bigger profit because you might get bored seeing your money that barely grow and you will divest and play it.
7385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If today was your last day, would you gamble everything? on: March 21, 2017, 06:53:16 AM
So, I heard the song from Nickelback titled "if today was your last day?"

I thought if today was my last day, would I gamble everything since I wouldn't have any use for this money when I die.

My answer was no at the time. Because I was thinking about my family, especially my kid. What would he eat tomorrow, if I lose everything? Then again, what if I win from just one yolo bet? Like bet every penny I have in one bet. What if I win that and give my kid twice what I could give.

What do you guys think?
Gambling would be last thing on my mind.
I would spend that day with my family and at the end of the day i would go to bet with my wife, spend few minutes of quality time with her and I would die happy   Smiley
Yeah , dying with the hands of your family or love ones is the best last day if you know. It is better than gambling ,that is the most worst scenario out of nothing .You waste your last day at the same time money and the time to lend a time who wants to be with you until your last breath . I would do the same as you think but i spend my all time not only a few minutes with them .
Actually, we should not even consider gambling as our choices on what to do with our last day in this world. It is our family that is the most important in this world and they will make you happy once you stay with them in your last day. Overall my experience in gambling is sadness because I lose more money that I won and I have experience a devastating life in the past, so I would not risk to try to do the same thing again in my last day.
7386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: March 21, 2017, 04:30:55 AM
With all these things that happens to bitcoin this month i would say that waiting is much recommended for now. Cause maybe 1 year o two years will passed bitcoin will hit the price that no one could ever imagined.
I'm even more optimistic that you, this year is a good year and we will be able to see another price increase, observe the price it's starting to rise now.
Everyone should calm down and do not be affected with the panic, it will not help us for our future goal. To be successful for our long term investment,
we should learn the right discipline and we must trust the bitcoin ecosystem will be progressive as it exist longer.
7387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 21, 2017, 03:07:12 AM
Rockets are up 123-118 with just 1:29 left to play. This is where it gets exciting  Cheesy
Harden is the hero of the game, he made the last shot coming from a turnover from the Denver and they have a lead of 1 point. This guy is showing why he deserved to be an MVP unlike what happen to Westbrook tonight where he was limited by the defense of the Warriors.
It's really exciting to know who will hold the number 8 spot, at this point I think the Denver Nuggets are showing a big heart to have that spot.
7388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which gambling sites have 0% house edge? on: March 20, 2017, 11:49:55 PM
And if you are talking about luck then you should consider have enough balance to recover your loss with 50-60% winning chance because of the house edge you can't play as 50% chance. There is not 50% chance of winning that could double your win because there is house edge, so by using 60% chance and enough balance will give you decent profit

Gambling is and will always remain about LUCK. Cool
Your belief will reflect your actions towards gambling, by believing that it's purely luck that is needed to win you are taking your chance to become a professional gambler. Yes, professional gambler believes in luck but does not rely on it to win, they are matured already in gambling due to their long experience and they believe it is the skills and knowledge which is the only key to win in the long run.
7389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: March 20, 2017, 11:32:33 PM
I expect the worst so after playing I don't need to feel regrets because I already know that it is more on lossing and I just leave my fortune on luck. I easily quit gambling cause I always think that if I focus myself on betting I would miss the oppotunities of making money without lossing...

Well said and you seem to have that self control, but that's what's lacking in a lot of gamblers. They only gamble because they want to win back their previous bankroll and that firms a chain of addiction that he follows and never ever able to stop so for me to quit gambling for good you need to have self control and know when to start and quit.
The reason why you are addicted is because you do not have self control or lack of self control, that is a big issue and you cannot solve it by your own. Actually if you want to fully quit and solve that problem, you need the guidance of some professional or from your love ones, let them inspire you and believe in their advises as an addicted gambler you are not in the right capacity to think straight.
7390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If today was your last day, would you gamble everything? on: March 20, 2017, 11:13:05 AM
I would rather donate it all to charity and people who need it rather than gamble it all away.
The thought of doubling my money is tempting, but I might lose it all.
Ofc, I don't have a family so it won't matter but why gamble it if I can leave that money for people who need it.

we have donated money to charity is something billions of times better than spending money just to gamble. If today is our last day and we deliberately spend our money and time to gamble then we've wasted the end of our lives for things that no points. So your time is wasted, it will be memorable for you and those closest to you if you spend the end of your life with them. Your money will not have a sense that if you have spent gambling at the end of your life. At least share with your sisters, your children and your beloved ones. Your money would be more useful.
There is no point of gambling at our last day of our life because at the end,  we will just die and risking is useless.  It is better to cherish the moment with your family and love ones rather than spend it on useless things such as gambling just like the guy above.  

Actually, it is a question belong to heart die with gambling, But it doesn't mean to take personal. Also it is sad question but at the same time it is interesting. But my thinking is same like you, do spend our last day with family, because we live our whole life with family so should die with family, It is better than to play gambling in our last day.
I'm sure if we are gambling for profit, we are not only making this for ourselves but because of our hopes that when we win we can give a good future for your family. However, success does not come to us all the time, most of the time we just lose our money and regret about it.
So, since it's my last day and I have been gambling for a long time, why not just spend with the most important people in your life, it's family.
7391  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: March 20, 2017, 10:57:45 AM
I had 1 btc in my wallet but when price crossed $1200 I sold 0.5 btc so right now I have only 0.5 btc and will sell that only when price touches to $2k in future or else I am comfortable in holding it for a long time and now I am trying my best to get some bitcoins so that again I can reach to 1 btc level.
Just do not rely on the value alone as the value may fluctuate, I think it's better to focus on continuously saving bitcoin and never mind the price.
It gives you an advantage if you are earning bitcoin as it can already be considered as your investment, we all believe the future of bitcoin is great hence we should learn to be discipline and save as much as we can to benefit in the future as well.
7392  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Saan kadalasan ginagastos o ginagasta ang kita sa bitcoin? on: March 20, 2017, 08:51:12 AM
Wala pa akong ipong bitcoin sa ngayon. 0 balance pa. kasi ngayon lang ako naengganyo kasi malaki yung rate.. Pero pag nakaipon ako, siguro for gadgets and ipon narin pang travel.. Ngayon, ipon ipon muna.

saglit ka lang naman makakaipon sa pag bibitcoin lalo na kapag gamay mo na tsaka quality poster ka naman madami kang masasalihan na mgagandang campaign.
Yet, it's still not enough though, AFAIK the biggest earnings you can get in a signature campaign is BTC0.2 per month, that is equivalent to more or less Php10,000 with the current exchange rate and fortunejack is very generous to give you that rate, however they are close at the moment.

Right now, I am satisfied with my campaign as I know it will last longer and I'm comfortable with the rules, what I can say is do not just focus with our earning opportunity, you cannot make multiple accounts in a campaign and that is time consuming if you ever do that along with the possible risking of your reputation. Learn trading, I know we have experience traders here and they are willing to help their newbies countrymen.
7393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: March 20, 2017, 08:25:24 AM
How to profit from cryptocurrency gambling? Sign up for affiliate programs and promote the links.
Don't gamble your own coins Smiley
That would not give us a good profit, it's better to invest in a gambling sites although it's a big risky. Actually I have many sign ups through my affiliates but it seems like I'm not satisfied with the amount I'm getting, I think I have to be more realistic, I have to invest to earn more and that requires me to put a decent amount of money which is fine with me.
You just not yet started to try it out and have said i won't give you a good profit?
I think gambling affiliates program is promising to get a passive income, you just need to figure out how to find an addicted gambler to sign up under your link , it is just feel bad when you earn money from other people losing lol.
How about you mate, do you have a good figures to share from your experience? To be honest, it's hard to attract gamblers with big potential to be a high roller because we do not know who will sign up, everything is just a wish, and if we are lucky we will get them. My strategy, I would rather have plenty of affiliates than to get a high roller with small numbers only, what if he will stop gambling? we will end our earnings then.
7394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 20, 2017, 06:42:23 AM
What was with Cleveland sitting out all their best players for last nights game?
The bench was full of them just sitting off looking like dummies and while getting paid to warm it. Angry
And they ended up losing the game.
What is wrong with these past champions? Roll Eyes
They said during the game those players deserved a night off but if they are going to lose the game I do not know why they didn't just have them dressed and come off the bench.
Come on now! Angry
It was obvious they were going to lose the game early on when odds were 8.6 when they were down 12-4 when their bench warmers for most games were only 2 of 14 attempts. Now that are really pathetic stats for a professional basketball team. Embarrassed
My parlay was killed because of the cavaliers, not a good night really, we should learn lessons that the Cavaliers are like the Spurs in the past where they love to rest their starters and will not make an early announcement. In that kind of scenario, it's good to do in live betting just to make sure who's playing or not.

Good thing today, I won betting on the cavaliers and I think for awhile that they will lose again to the lousy lakers when they were still down starting in the 4th quarter. Just to let you know, I won on the ML and over of the game, congratulations to me. Grin
7395  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - CONGRATULATIONS TO WONTON FOR WINNING 300BTC on: March 20, 2017, 06:28:34 AM

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Unlucky for bettor, but really nice for investors. I believe house profit is possibly the highest it's been during the latest version, but don't quote me on that.
Sad to know user "hidden" lost a lot after he won huge amount before (100BTC in a bet). Judging from his bankroll, he really had huge bitcoin (Martingale from 10BTC until 80BTC and did 1 last bet with 200BTC = Total 350BTC lost on that run)


Wow that's some sick gambling there.  I wonder who this guy is.  What if it's really a Bitcoin whale like Roger Ver having fun with his holdings.  Lol.  He must be going "Oh I don't care with these coins anymore!  I have too many of them."

But seriously tho, 200 BTC on a single bet?  I could imagine only one sick gambler who could do that in dice.  Phil Ivey.  But I don't think he's a Bitcoin user.
Whoever the person, he is a extreme gambler because he bet 200 BTC in a single bet. That number is very much I think, I can gamble hundred times with bitcoin amount like that. I also want to know who dared to gamble like that only in single bet on dice, this makes me very curious. But I am sure this will make investors interested to invest in BitDice.

How much can I earn in profit on a monthly basis if I invest around 5 Bitcoins in Bitdice?  Have anybody here tried investing with them before?  It might be a better idea to put some BTC into good use rather than storing it in a wallet doing nothing.
I also would want to know based from experience, I found investing in a gambling site offers a great return but with that big amount, I think it would generate better return, I'm just curious and I hope you guys will share a real experience.

High rollers win big and lose big, that happens normally but in the end, it's still the site who will be at profit so investing is really great.
7396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: March 20, 2017, 02:16:34 AM
It depends on what you are looking for, as both are things for different purposes. I think investing is for who is seeking to earn money, and gambling for fun. Gambling also brings the possibility of profit, of course, but I think this should be viewed as secondary to this type of activity.
To be safe you have to stick with your first impression only, gambling is for fun while investing is a way to make profit. With your mentality focus on that you will enjoy both and while you are making money you can always have time to gamble as you are sure with your purpose, actually the problem will only arise in gambling if you are not focus with what you are doing and you are tempted to get greedy on the profit you can possibly earn.
7397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: March 20, 2017, 01:49:33 AM
People who wants to earn money with short cut methods will continue to gamble even if they win or loose as that is the only way they find easy to make quick money and finally gets addicted to it and I have seen many people who have sold their house for the sake of gambling.

It is not really about wanting to earn quick bucks from gambling however it is only about getting money from it. There are alot source of income and gambling is just one of it, if you know how to do it well then you could make some cash out of it. It doesnt really makes everyone stupid enough to sell off their house to gamble
Well, overall, we want profit, who doesn't want profit right? It's sometimes for the people who have less patience, gambling is definitely the way to go for them. I think some of the addicted gamblers really does that and even play with their cars to bet and I don't know why they do that but the hope of winning, I think, is what they hold on to.
That's not advisable to sell everything you have just to gamble and I think that is already the effect of being addicted in gambling and your urge to chase your loses. Gambling problem is really a serious problem as it can make you bankrupt overtime, I don't want to experience this again as I have been addicted in the past and it's really devastating, I'm just lucky I was able to survive and quit.
7398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Supertition on: March 19, 2017, 07:22:03 AM
If you think that superstition will help you in gambling I suggest you stop immediately and don't gamble at all. These so called premonitions have made people lose millions of dollars in casinos. I have seen in person in a casino where a couple of middle age 40-50 years were saying this will be our lucky spin and they kept losing until they lose all of their money. The sum were about 17.500 dollars if I remember correctly. Superstition is only a way to lie to yourself and cannot help anyone in gambling.
Believing superstitions is good but to an extent, I mean if you just gamble all your money because some "pundits" ask you to.

You should use your own brain and intelligence to determine whether it's worth to bet on that.
I have seen a lot of pundits in my county who even have an accurancy of 90% in sports betting, but actually they themselves are not in profits overall so how they can help you ?
I would probably focus on developing my skills than finding my luck, I'm not a superstitious guy because I live in the present world and I only believe on what I saw except believing in God even if I do not see him. What is more important is the statistics and the trend and all the information you can read as that is your only basis and your key to be successful in gambling.
7399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 19, 2017, 06:20:01 AM
Golden State Warriors vs Milwaukee Bucks , bet for Golden State Warriors to win this game .
I'll go big for the Milwaukee bucks on this one, I like the way they play after the all star break and I think they will make a good effort to make it to the playoffs. Also, the under points of this game looks good to me, I will definitely take it with them on ML.
I have parlayed Milwaukee Bucks with Cavaliers, Wizards, and Bulls, if this wins I will be very rich tonight.lol Grin

If the Warriors lose this one then they really are in deep trouble heading into the playoffs.
They won the game and not just a simple win but a win that is very convincing because they were able to route the bucks at home.
Bucks was a good team but this team the warriors are back on their original shape, I hope this momentum will continue and they will have the winning streak heading to the playoffs, they needed it to build their confidence back again.
7400  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Let's talk about Gambling on: March 18, 2017, 01:35:58 AM
GAmbling your bitcoin hindi ko to masusuggest sa beginners ...,,

Mamuhunan kayo din pagmalaki na saka kayo magtry maliit ang chance sa gambling at malaki ang risk sa btc nyo sasaglitin lng..,,
Investing is different from gambling, of course even a newbie can gamble as long as he knows what he is doing. This kind of activity is for fun only and as you mentioned, the risk is high because chances of winning is very low. It's a gamblers decision on how he will manage his money, we just have to make sure that we are matured enough to manage our emotion to still stay in the game.
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