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741  Economy / Speculation / Re: 🔴 🔴 It's happening! It's happening! It's happening! ⭕ ⭕ on: February 09, 2019, 04:03:57 AM
Its just a slight spike, its not like it happened before. Don't get too excited about it you'd get burn yourself for sending a lot only to find out its just a spike and soon will be drag lower than before. calm yourself you are no winning a lotto.

easy dude . we know its  a spike but this is still a sign of something good . you'l never know that a bull can occur in the next 30 minutes  . this is better than winning a lotto because we can expect to earn a huge income in a sure way  .

Meh, we're back to where we were in mid-january, nothing exciting about it

yeah the price back just like on january but atleast it comes back .  we must happy with it because we  see that bitcoin is doing his best to give us a better price  .

our fate is now left in the hands of the exchanges to increase the volume.

no . we can only make our faith . we can make a difference thru our own moves and not other people or exchanges.
742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to keep the BitCoins Safe? on: February 08, 2019, 09:28:01 AM
Which one exchange do you save and hold your asset now, maybe if save at exchange market always use google authicator for making your account is safe, you can try other way like hold and save your asset at hardware wallet like nano ledger.

thats a one good advice brader . using google authenticator can add an extra layer of security to our accounts but its no use if the hacker decides to hack the entire exchange .

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you can try other way like hold and save your asset at hardware wallet like nano ledger.

thats another good advice along with authenticators but hardware wallets are a bit expensive and a little more complicated to use  . its not really recomended  if you dont have many assets .
743  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing in Bitcoin in 2019? on: February 08, 2019, 07:45:20 AM
Investing in bitcoin is the very best thing a man and woman can do to elevate his/her financial status. Now it's the right time to buy a bitcoin as long as you can, for a very afordable price. " by low sell high" .
but the problem is that here everyone can't give an answer about the cryptocurrency market increase. and now it is certainly the best time to be able to wait for the market to recover
well, it's a lot of money for those who have a large amount of bitcoin right now, because it could be that the price of bitcoin will go up in the near future, all you have to do is wait. well, but maybe there are still many people who continue to take advantage of this low enough price to continue to deposit bitcoin from the market into their wallets.

How can you say alot of money ?  Cant you see the market is in bad shape ?  So its useless even if you have a lot of bitcoins because your profit will only be less than you expected  . the price can grow in the future therfor buying nowadays is still a good idea to do  but its also good to hodl and wait if ever you already have an existing btc's on your purse .
744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When Should I Expect The Next Bull Run? on: February 08, 2019, 06:36:19 AM
Don't expect bullrun anytime soon ,stay focus on building a nice portfolio first because that's the only way to stay prepared for another bullrun ,it might be soon or it may be longer,use the market condition to take advantage and secure many good coins
It will be better that way cause we even don't know or even sure that bull run will show up again, may a simple pumps will just come. We don't waste our time for that, looking the market everyday to know if we are growing, instead to be prepare anything that could happen in the coming days. It is better to be prepared and take the opportunity to have our bags full of potential coins in preparation for the market pumps.

Why continue buying and building a nice portfolio if you didnt know that the price can rise ? you are only risking your money that way  .  but its not wrong to invest only if you are sure on what you are investing  .  btc is a good investment because this coin do have a potential to pumped up again though we dont know when will it happen .
745  Economy / Economics / Re: Who controls the market? on: February 08, 2019, 04:04:49 AM
In my opinion, the one who controls the market personally is the market actor, every transaction or exchange that is done will greatly affect the price of an item, and again if a market actor does not know ethics it will cause an item to have an uncertain price, can be cheap and can be expensive
maybe I can add. that the market itself is also very influential if indeed the number of transactions is very large. and certainly will have a very big effect
indeed with very large transactions can move the market. but that requires a lot of money. so it is true that the one who controls the market is the transaction itself.

Do you guys think that without people , transactions wont be possible ?  Its the people that really moves the market . whales is also a kind of people ( they are either one or more people )  they make the main movement because they are more powerful than us regular individuals  .
746  Economy / Economics / Re: Will people come back to gold on: February 08, 2019, 02:58:46 AM
I don't know exactly about the other regions but from ASIA you cannot take gold away. They are crazy about gold and they are ready to invest in gold any time. I think this year investors are more interested in Gold as compared to crypto currency. Now Let's wait for the mid January to have an idea of BTC price.
Yes i do absolutely agree with this statement, Im from indonesia and i do admit people in my country really crazy with gold and they do not think that stock and cryptocurrency are a good way to invest their money. I think gold still the best investment in asia and the demand is really high and many people still think that gold are the best way to store value.

Im also from asia and i see that many people likes to buy gold ( not the actual gold ) but jewelries made of pure gold because they can afford to it easily but thats acceptable because gold is more well known that bitcoin or any other cryptos .  other people here do also love cryptos and they even invest with it .  as soon as crypto will become popular , it can also compete with gold because people see it as a profitable investment tool  .
747  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold exist 1000+ years. while bitcoins exist 10 years. on: February 07, 2019, 10:57:57 PM
Water existing over million years,Sand existing over billion years and you were existing over 50 years so you and all these thing need to be more valued than gold and bitcoin. Tongue

No need to list other things . we are only talking about bitcoin and gold here .

Price is not based on years it is based on "Demand and Supply".

Yes but the longer the thing exist , the more demand that they will get  . price may not be based on years but years can help a thing to become more trusted .

how can bitcoin be created early if the computer has not been created?

No one said that  because that is impossible for bitcoin to exist without a computer . we all know that computer is the one that create's bitcoin not unless if they will create bitcoin physically just like a local currency
748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to invest in an ICO? on: February 07, 2019, 12:47:02 PM
Realize that even if ICO is not scam, there are miserable chances that it will succeed. I mean after ICO...
So it is risky to invest in ICO now... According to the fact, that most of them are shitcoins and scams, rather better to invest in some other assets.
I think there are also ICOs who have succeeded and have paid their participants well but i have observed that starting last year,most of the ICOs have been scammed already and so its hard to trust now to invest into new ICOs.That's why others prefer to make some investments in some potential crypto coins than in ICO.
During 2018 and until the beginning of 2019 at this time indeed, ICO projects have a poor reputation level. This can be seen from the decreasing level of public trust in the ICO project. The decline in public confidence has reduced the number of existing investments. It's a bad thing, but we should be able to give a positive stigma because when we support the situation can be a lot better.

Not only ico but also cryptos.  people have a less confidence with them because they see that the prices are dropping but few are also feeling the opposite . they were attracted because they see that the prices are cheap . thats why they buy more  .

you are right, we must not think negative because that can only make the situation worst .  lets look at the bright side , other ico's and cryptos are still showing signs of life . that only proves that the overall market can recover in no time .
749  Economy / Speculation / Re: After Chinese new year BTC price will rise? on: February 07, 2019, 11:38:14 AM
bitcoin will increase after Chinese New Year? I don't think so, well hopefully so that all altcoins will increase as well.
yes, we have the same hope, that after China's new year, the price of bitcoin will go up, but there hasn't been a good increase at the moment. maybe within a few weeks, we can see if it really makes the price of bitcoin rise or vice versa.

Chinese new year has no relatation to the decline of the price and it cant either help to increase the price of btc  . those said event is only small and not all people will celebrate it not unlike to a real new year where all the countries must participate because that is already a tradition .

The recently launched bittorrent tokens have been experiencing a large scale growth upon the Chinese new year. After the new year the price need to get pushed forward.

Btt is already growing ever since january , thats why i dont believe that chinese new year have them  . its only a co incident  .
750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Token price dropping after ICO, why so? on: February 07, 2019, 10:20:11 AM
Market gives a lot of impact to the ico too but the main reason caused by these icos can't provide a good market or attract the demand to buy their tokens . in fact that these coins need a lot of volumes to prevent the dumpers to make the price will stabilize.
many of the prices of ico tokens go down because they have not been in demand by people. most of those who do buying and selling activities on the market are part of their own community. whereas to involve people outside of that they must already have market products.

If they arent indemand the price will be stable but wont go down sharply . a dump means the price have decline too hard after a rise  .

Now if the token is dumping that maybe the cause when people ( investor and bunty hunters ) sold their tokens after it has been listed  .  this is usually normal in the case of ico's  .
751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stop Hodling Coins!!! on: February 07, 2019, 09:09:28 AM
Day-trading is for experts and should be recommended for investors who just heard about the concept of a project and decided to invest their monies. It is will be a game of gamble to them. Investors are investors and not traders. When the market goes bearish, what investors ought to do is to keep patient and hold for the coin to rise, thus if the project is legit with good potentials.
Trading in itself is another huge lessons to undertake in order to earn from it.

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Day-trading is for experts

no it isnt everyone can learn it . im not an expert before i became a good day trader .

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Investors are investors and not traders

they are both the same . investors do buy coins and hodl them , they even trade them for cash which is verry simillar on what traders do  .  

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When the market goes bearish, what investors ought to do is to keep patient and hold for the coin to rise,

What about buying ? Investor do also buy coins when they see a bloody market  

~ Stop hodling coins might be the worst idea to do especially on these kind of market that we have today  but even when there's a bull run  .  there is not point on stopping because we are destined to continue what we have started here on crypto .
752  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: why many traders(including me) not getting success on: February 07, 2019, 08:14:56 AM
even though we see a lot of videos read books and know that if we do this, we will be profitable but at last we do same mistakes and lose what could be the reason
1) practice and experience
2) with fear of losing or missing profits we just f*** our trades
3) patients
4) or what other reasons could be?Huh?? please comment   
Trading, just like football is a skills that the trader has to develop.  One thing that many of us has forgetting is that only the skillful and professionals really make money from the market.  If you are not skill in trading you will keep losing.  I could remember this saying in forex that 95% of traders lose money in trading and only 5% makes the profits that 95% lose. Many traders are not ready to spend quality time in learning how to trade professionally instead their are focusing on the profits their can make from the market.

What about luck ?  You  guys cant just forget . i guess that is the reason on why the op and most of us are kept on loosing in trading because we only depend on our skills and other traits but we forget that trading also needs luck because it is like gambling  . we cannot possibly predict the outcome of the price  even if we based on the charts or any other detailed guides out there  .
753  Economy / Economics / Re: What profit has brought you to bitcoin? on: February 07, 2019, 06:59:42 AM
Actually I joined crypto "late" late last year and ever since then I have invested a considerable amount of money in ico projects and in some tradedable coins.
I can't say that I have made big profits largely due to the market condition of last year though ir was reasonable and commensurate with the amount invested.
If it is about being late so no time is late to join and as much if we talk about profit and benefits from bitcoin is quite allot as there are various ways that can be done to gain advantage of this bitcoin using trading and investing for long term, we also can get paid from bitcoin by joining some bounty and signature campaign.

Better late than never  and better late than later  .  those newbie in crypto world that has getting started this year can still earn an income though not big as what we already earn on the 2017 pump .

But bitcoin can potentially rise in the future . thats why all users that owns a bitcoin do always have a chance to earn huge rewards  as long as they have a solid patience to wait of course  .
754  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Mcafee on: February 06, 2019, 09:29:39 AM
The major reason why bitcoin and cryptocurrencies market pump in 2017 was due to the some comments that McAfee has made.  Therefore I respect him and I really think he has influenced the market positively.

Lol . no way . the price pump because of the high demand last year and its not because of what john have said

there is nothing crazy about McAfee.

He is damn crazy  . he even said that he will eat his own d*ck in a national televesion if btc price wont rise .


BatShit Crazy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrYkNlpnLi4

Most people in crypto are nuts, so Mcafee is just one of many.


Most people ? So that simply means you are maybe included on them . so as i , but sorry im not nuts .

John Mcafee is a very interesing person. He ran out from USA because he didn't pay taxes.

Oh really ? I didnt know that john was also a badass but thats not cool to escape your own country just because you dont want to pay for the tax  . tax evasion is a serious crime .
755  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the Bitcoin is still down? on: February 06, 2019, 06:06:19 AM
well, currently the price of bitcoin is still declining, because there are a lot of news about hackers, loss, and so on. now, I haven't heard good news to make the price of bitcoin rise, but I think in the near future, the price of bitcoin will actually increase.

there are alot of good news last time but the value looks the same . so i guess its not the news that drive's the price to rise or decline but that is because the law of demand and supply  .  people are just selling and they didnt buy enough coins yet .  maybe because they dont have enough cash for now .

Do you really think if you just wait for something to happen? If you want to raise the price of cryptocurrency, you need to start doing it yourself. And everyone just says "wait, wait."

yes waiting is the best medicine . do you think if he can act now and start buying all by himself he can recover the price ? no its not simple as that . it takes million and billions of demand to make the price move  .
756  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you have a reason to stay? on: February 06, 2019, 02:54:33 AM
Those who invested in bitcoin way back 2009 had not experienced any bull run before nor have much knowledge about the blockchain technology, yet they took the risk to invest. You and I have witnessed a bull run and heard about the numerous potentials of crypto so why do we still have to feel reluctant to invest in bitcoin. Let's be optimistic about our digital assets because its all we have.
You have a point because the first adopters were mostly ignorant about the use and significance of cryptocurrency although some lesson sessions may be arranged before the launch and distribution of Bitcoin in 2009. We are so lucky to see several bull markets and this is the reason why most of us are still optimistic about Bitcoin and the entire crypto market.

people invest back on 2009 not because of the profit . they invest only because they love how bitcoin it was . they eventually didnt expect that the btc could rise higher .

for us who are late adopters , the reason why we are here is because of the profit that we can get when we invest or trade cryptos  . there's no point of stopping even if we see a hard dip but as long as crypto is still profitable and have a value . it is safe to continue .
757  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's stop comparing Bitcoin to Ethereum or any other Cryptos on: February 05, 2019, 11:24:07 PM
Bitcoin is the king for all of altcoin and never could by have the same price all of altcoin with bitcoin, never try for comparing between bitcoin and ethereum price because its never could be happen and never ethereum have the same price with bitcoin.

king of alts is etherium not btc because btc is not an altcoin . btc is a crypto , the king of all cryptos  . they compare not only because of the price but also on the specs of the coins . we know that it is almost impossible for other cryptos to surpass btc in terms of value but they can beat btc if we based on their performance .

I always see this thread BTC vs. ETH and others, I don't know what is on their mind that bitcoin is the mother of all other crypto currencies, so I'm not interested in getting into the thread that compares it


there is nothing wrong about comparing crypto's . if you dont want to engage in these kind of discussions  then feel free to ignore the op or the whole board instead  .
758  Economy / Economics / Re: Can a new crypto exchange take a place in the market? on: February 05, 2019, 02:58:52 PM
It is possible for any exchange to be on top.

to be on top you also need to be the best and any exchange does not have that trait . not all have the potential because some are born to be good and some are destined to be bad .

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Re: Can a new crypto exchange take a place in the market?

afaik exchange and market are both the same/simillar  . what you mean to say is " can a new exchange take over the existing one's " ?   the answer is yes only if they are promising enough . if they are unique and has a better service than the other competitors then its possible for them to be discovered and rank up .
759  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The Best Time To Exit Trading on: February 05, 2019, 01:44:03 PM
Nobody controls the market and this is the reason why nobody should be greedy when trading. In any business, if you can make a 30% profit, then that is a good deal. Take whatever that is on top and leave before the seen profit turns to a loss.

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Nobody controls the market and this is the reason why nobody should be greedy when trading.

whales control the market . they are the one that manipulate the price to go up and down . though yeah we must not be greedy not only in trading but on anything that we are doing because greed can lead us to disaster .

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In any business, if you can make a 30% profit, then that is a good deal. Take whatever that is on top and leave before the seen profit turns to a loss.

30% is already huge enough  . better secure it and take a rest for a while  . dont just quit permanently if you feel that you are doing great  .

I just realized long ago that december 2017 is really the best time  to exit trading.
You're right, I think in December 2017 is the right time to exit trading

if im not mistaken the price of cryptos are still high last year ( specifically in january 2018 )  . you guys can still earn that time but not big as the 2017 pump but that was not the end of cryptos ath . soon cryptos can be able to experience that again  . it just need some time
760  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long do you think this BEAR MARKET will LAST? on: February 05, 2019, 08:35:40 AM
More than 1 years crypto market  already in bearish trend , and this is the longest bear since crypto started tradeable.

1 yr bear is indeed long but this isnt the only year that crypto experienced a bear like this because on the past past years when crypto is not yet popuar , the price do also got dump and stuck for a verry long time although that may seem to be more acceptable that time due to lack of investor/adoption while today where crypto is already becoming a trend  but the history kinda repeat itself  .
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