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741  Economy / Auctions / Re: ★ BitcoinINN.com ★ on: December 13, 2015, 07:56:10 PM
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742  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shorena - To -ve reped and removed from default trust on: December 13, 2015, 05:48:49 PM
I dont understand the reasoning here,
  • I get negative trust for promoting what you guys consider a ponzi
  • Shorena advertises a scam
  • he does get negative rep
+1 for favouritism, there is more than enough evidence here against shorena, who has doublebot scammed?
I guess people here are afraid of people on DT
. I strongly don't think he represents a threat of any kind (if anything, the contrary).

but i pose some kind of threat? noted
Unlike the other case it's clear without any reasonable doubt that doubling site is a scam site. If you are willing to promote that site for money knowing people will lose theirs then I think you would be willing to do other untrustworthy things in the future.

Therefore yes I think you pose a thread to the community. Your negative trust will function as a warning so other people are extra cautious if dealing with you. That lowers that threat.
743  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shorena - To -ve reped and removed from default trust on: December 13, 2015, 05:32:40 PM
I dont understand the reasoning here,
  • I get negative trust for promoting what you guys consider a ponzi
  • Shorena advertises a scam
  • he does get negative rep
+1 for favouritism, there is more than enough evidence here against shorena, who has doublebot scammed?
I guess people here are afraid of people on DT

It must be clear here that we're not judging (if you want to use that word) that dice site but shorena's actions. For him to deserve negative trust it must be clear that site was an obvious scam without a considerable doubt.
There was an accusation and several people thought it was a scam but it seems several other people honestly thought they were just having problems with an employee and with the system.
The site was fishy and I would have refrained from promoting it but there wasn't enough evidence (or at least I can't find if) that it was a scam without doubt. Therefore I don't consider negative trust is deserved.
I was considering neutral feedback but because shorena has helped a lot to the community and has been fighting scammers I don't think any warning is required at all. I strongly don't think he represents a threat of any kind (if anything, the contrary).

Regarding "being afraid of DT users": that doesn't make any sense. If shorena, I or any other DT user is found to scam or do anything else clearly untrustworthy then that user will receive negative trust and will be removed from DT. Therefore their retaliation negative trust (if any) would be meaningless and therefore it wouldn't make sense to be afraid of such an user.
744  Economy / Reputation / Re: Help Regarding Negative feedbacks i got from DT members on: December 13, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
OP you were an alt of an account with negative trust at the moment that account got that negative trust. Therefore people who deal with you deserve to know that. They should check that feedback (that was given to you as a person) before dealing with you.

If the negative trust left before the 27th of November is removed from the account TrueHari then I'll remove the negative trust I left on your current one.
745  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shorena - To -ve reped and removed from default trust on: December 13, 2015, 04:08:29 PM
PM:
um, whats the holdup with the negative trust for shorena?

OP, I haven't found evidence that site was an obvious/clear scam at that time. Most probably I'll add a neutral one but I'm still checking.
746  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shorena - To -ve reped and removed from default trust on: December 13, 2015, 03:15:19 PM
There is always a loser on ponzi and "doubling" sites. While it is permitted to advertise such sites here on the forum, why is it surprising that people that care about integrity give you negative feedback?
If a site promotes itself as ponzi and lets users know there's a big risk then I wouldn't say it's an obvious scam. It's doubtful and it's arguably untrustworthy but not an obvious scam. Promoting itself as "100% guaranteed" is definitely a scam.

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@EcuaMobi: Yes I kept wearing the signature after it turned out they skipped nonces. The full story is that they also repaid those affected by skipped nonces. Firstly only those that lost, but later everyone else. The story was that they hired a 3rd person that patched in the skipped nonces, did a mistakes as they did not review the code before it went live. I can look up the relevant threads later if you want.
So you promoted it only when (at least you thought) it was just an error they were making and not and obvious scam? Yes I'd appreciate having the relevant threads please, it will save me some time.

TBH I don't know about that case. But a dice site is not an obvious scam until proved otherwise. Did he promote it even after it was an obvious a proven scam? I see he updated a previous positive trust to neutral after the scam was found.

On the other hand anything that "guarantees" always doubling your coins is an obvious scam.

To make it short: promoting a known/obvious scam deserves negative trust. Therefore I'm adding negative trust to you now. If you can prove without any doubts shorena was promoting that dice site after the scam was proved above reasonable doubt then I'll add negative trust to him too. Sounds fair?
further evidence here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=778953.0;all
his name was listed which proves he was still participating

I know he was participating. What I don't know yet is if at that time it was an obvious scam or not.
747  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shorena - To -ve reped and removed from default trust on: December 13, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
TBH I don't know about that case. But a dice site is not an obvious scam until proved otherwise. Did he promote it even after it was an obvious a proven scam? I see he updated a previous positive trust to neutral after the scam was found.

On the other hand anything that "guarantees" always doubling your coins is an obvious scam.

To make it short: promoting a known/obvious scam deserves negative trust. Therefore I'm adding negative trust to you now. If you can prove without any doubts shorena was promoting that dice site after the scam was proved above reasonable doubt then I'll add negative trust to him too. Sounds fair?
748  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shorena - To -ve reped and removed from default trust on: December 13, 2015, 02:54:40 PM
OP so your point is that because you promote an obvious scam then shorena should receive negative trust and be removed from DT?

Have you considered removing the signature to the ponzi?

By advertising what is clearly a scam, you are potentially causing others to get scammed which makes you untrustworthy.
Shorena advertised a scam even after it was discovered to be a scam, but you didnt even even tag him with a neutral Huh?
is it because of his trust rating? are you intimidated?

What scam exactly did shorena promote?
749  Economy / Auctions / Re: 5x 1 Bitcoin Vires In Numeris 2012 Physical Bitcoin Wallet on: December 13, 2015, 12:11:41 PM
0.101
Minimum increment is so small on these threads! Hehe.

0.11
750  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: petit jeu : j'offre 200 € de ma poche. Vous ne pouvez rien perdre on: December 13, 2015, 12:09:24 PM
$475
751  Economy / Auctions / Re: 5x 1 Bitcoin Vires In Numeris 2012 Physical Bitcoin Wallet on: December 13, 2015, 12:06:31 PM
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752  Economy / Auctions / Re: 5x 1 Bitcoin Vires In Numeris 2012 Physical Bitcoin Wallet on: December 13, 2015, 12:00:38 PM
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753  Economy / Auctions / Re: ⇒ .XYZ domains: $1 • bitcoinDICE.xyz • bitcoinDOMAINS.xyz • bitcoinHOST.xyz ... on: December 13, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
This auction is confusing. I try to bid some of them. But I have to look through all of the comments to figure out the each current bid price. OP, could you upgrade in the OP these information to attract more bidders?

Unfortunately I can't edit OP on an auction. But here are the current bids:

bitcoindice.xyz $4
bitcoindomains.xyz $1
bitcoinhost.xyz $1
bitcoinmail.xyz $1
btchost.xyz $1
btcstore.xyz $1.5
btcvpn.xyz $1
cryptobit.xyz Sold
cryptoblog.xyz $3
cryptolinks.xyz $1
cryptomarket.xyz $1
digitalservers.xyz $1
754  Economy / Auctions / Re: ⇒ .CO domains: $3 • bitDICE.co • bitVIDEO.co • btcBAY.co • btcPAL.co • buyBIT.co on: December 13, 2015, 11:26:37 AM
Bitdice.co - $10
Unfortunately you're about one hour too late. premium_domainer won this auction. I'm PM'ing him to close the deal.

bitdice - $9
bitfaucet - $7
755  Economy / Auctions / Re: 5x 1 Bitcoin Vires In Numeris 2012 Physical Bitcoin Wallet on: December 13, 2015, 12:35:53 AM
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756  Economy / Auctions / Re: ⇒ .CO domains: $3 • bitDICE.co • bitVIDEO.co • btcBAY.co • btcPAL.co • buyBIT.co on: December 12, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
bitdice - $9
bitfaucet - $7
Noted. These are the only running auctions at the moment.

you can send me what I owe you in btc now for the two domains. Ill be home later this afternoon and send my info and payment. Thanks!
PM sent



I'm lowering to US$ 2 the starting bid of the domains that don't have any bids yet:

bitcoupons.co - No bids
bitexplorer.co - No bids
dices.co - No bids
digdoge.co - No bids
freedoges.co - No bids
netcams.co - No bids
757  Economy / Auctions / Re: 5x 1 Bitcoin Vires In Numeris 2012 Physical Bitcoin Wallet on: December 12, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
0.08
758  Economy / Auctions / Re: 5x 1 Bitcoin Vires In Numeris 2012 Physical Bitcoin Wallet on: December 12, 2015, 01:25:31 PM
0.075
759  Economy / Auctions / Re: 5x 1 Bitcoin Vires In Numeris 2012 Physical Bitcoin Wallet on: December 12, 2015, 01:20:15 PM
0.057
760  Economy / Auctions / Re: ⇒ .XYZ domains: $1 • bitcoinDICE.xyz • bitcoinDOMAINS.xyz • bitcoinHOST.xyz ... on: December 12, 2015, 12:22:41 PM
bitcoindice @ BIN $5

cryptomarket
cryptoblog
btcstore
bitcoinhost

$1 each.

Current BIN for bitcoindice.xyz is $6. 5 ($5 more than the last bid). Current minimum bid for cryptoblog.xyz is $1.5.

Please correct accordingly if you want to confirm. The other 3 bids were accepted.
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