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741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Pi Coin | A decentralized economy or another form of MLM scheme? on: August 13, 2022, 04:17:24 PM
What's happened on pi coin?pi isn't listed on any market place.many people sell their coin on high price like 0.35$-0.50$.Vietnam and Chinis people are buying pi coin unofficially and many people use it by payment method.where it will be listed and how many price of it?now 33 million people use pi app.they launch their mainnet.i feel that we should sell some coin this price.upcoming day its price will be dump.we should sell our 50% coin that price.
Just let them all to buy what they wanna buy but you shall not follow them to buy this shit coin. FOMO was happening caused by there was a news that it can be used to buy something but this is not yet verified. You must be careful with this.
Years already passed but this project is still getting stuck at the same place. people are getting FOMO caused by that news.
It may be a trap as well.

It's true right now there is huge FOMO going on about PI over the internet. Many people even make some unrealistic price predictions for pi. Many people are buying this locally and I got information from a trusted source that some business owners in Vietnam and in some parts of china accept pi for their goods. I know it's too early to call it a legit platform but right now some people making a hell lot of money out of it.
742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Pi Coin | A decentralized economy or another form of MLM scheme? on: August 12, 2022, 05:58:59 PM


Some downside of Pi, in my opinion, is you can only use Pi through your smartphone and you need to pass KYC to use your mined Pi.


Another major downside is that, since its release date, this PI coin has not been listed on any exchange, it is worse than a shitcoin listed on a DEX.

It doesn't matter as long as they find some utilities. There are many cryptos in the market that is listed in many exchanges but don't have a solid use case. I saw some business owner providing their service in exchange for pi coin. Right now the values seem totally hyped but if they can really expand the use case of pi then it doesn't matter what they have done in the past.
I don't think it's appropriate to trust an old coin that is still unlisted on any exchange. What's the sense of holding it for a long time if the team behind it coudln't create improvements and developments so the project would continue running? It actually went like a Ponzi scheme and they just made unrealistic promises to their investors. It has been a long time since the last time that they have posted an update stating that the coin would be listed in exchange but still, nothing happened.

There are some developments going on right now. Many business is emerging who are ready to accept pi as a payment. If a bunch of people thinks pi is a reliable crypto asset with a future and accept it for their service and goods then I think pi is successful for what they are trying to achieve. Their intention was never to be crypto assets that people will be used primarily for storing values.
743  Economy / Economics / Re: Why aren't people utilising cryptocurrency payment methods? on: August 11, 2022, 04:00:20 PM
Because most people still think that bitcoin/crypto is a scam.

I think the problem is somewhere else. If most people think crypto is a scam then there are still some people( This number is high) who believe in crypto. They will surely use crypto but right now there isn't much convenient way to use crypto as a payment method. Most business doesn't want to accept crypto because its price fluctuates very fast. Nobody wants to put their business at such risk.
744  Economy / Economics / Re: Are CBDCs good for the economy? on: August 11, 2022, 03:55:21 PM
The stable digital currencies, also known as CBDCs have been gaining popularity in the last two years, especially after 2021 bull market.

Recently I was looking at some news about CBDCs implementation in Australia, and I was wondering if this is something that could cause trouble or confusion within a local economy as it moves forward. Countries like Canada have developed contingency plans for this system, although I'm not sure how small countries could be affected by this. What are your thoughts?

Link to the news as reference:

https://twitter.com/thetokenist/status/1556986345972809728?s=20&t=bpZZ56l23Rh3v40wykXckQ



My question is to you does paper cash good for the economy? I do not find any difference between paper cash and CBDC expect their appearance. You can touch paper cash it has a physical form and you can not touch CBDC it's a digital form of paper cash. As long as govt has full control to print money and increase money circulation, the main problem in our economy inflation will not be solved.
745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Pi Coin | A decentralized economy or another form of MLM scheme? on: August 11, 2022, 03:49:14 PM


Some downside of Pi, in my opinion, is you can only use Pi through your smartphone and you need to pass KYC to use your mined Pi.


Another major downside is that, since its release date, this PI coin has not been listed on any exchange, it is worse than a shitcoin listed on a DEX.

It doesn't matter as long as they find some utilities. There are many cryptos in the market that is listed in many exchanges but don't have a solid use case. I saw some business owner providing their service in exchange for pi coin. Right now the values seem totally hyped but if they can really expand the use case of pi then it doesn't matter what they have done in the past.
746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Pi Coin | A decentralized economy or another form of MLM scheme? on: August 10, 2022, 02:32:59 PM
You need to take a look with this thread first, this project has been exposed since 2 years ago PI network! A huge trap[Warning!]

It's a MLM scheme since the main purpose is to referral as much as you can to get more people joined this project, if you can't get new people, you wouldn't get a lot share. You're also need to know this project is lack of many information and cell phone mining is obviously never profitable due to low performance. I saw someone video if mining this coin using cell phone is quite fast, it's impossible.

Some people don't care if it's an MLM scheme or not. Till now I know people are selling their PI coins through P2P transactions in the open market. That means some people made money out of it. In long term, anything can be turned into a scam.

If bitcoin as a form of payment is unsuccessful anywhere in the world, it is because the people there don't understand it, or they do not want to use it for reasons best known to them, your post sounded like Bitcoin failed as a medium of exchange, which isn't possible because that is one of its usefulness. I do not know why some restaurants and shopping malls accept Pi in Vietnam, maybe it is a way to encourage more people to join the Pi mining fever, or they think it is going to be the next bitcoin. Tongue

You know what when BTC came into public many called it a scam like many people saying about PI. I am not comparing pi with BTC nor I do care if PI becomes a successful project or not in long term. My attention is on what they are doing right now. In the current situation, I can see people are using it as a medium of payment. If people accept it then it has some value.
747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Pi Coin | A decentralized economy or another form of MLM scheme? on: August 10, 2022, 11:45:06 AM
People have already talked about this coin countless times in these forums. Some thought it is a scam project and remove it from their phone. For those of you who haven't heard about the pi coin before let me give you a quick introduction:

pi coin is a form of cryptocurrency that can be mined through a smartphone. A user just needs to install the app into their phone a start mining. They claimed to be a DAO which was maintained and secured by the community. They have a community of 33millions of users worldwide.

Recently they announced their main net launch and mined pi is being transferred to their mainnet slowly. What amazed me is people are accepting pi as a form of payment. There were countless attempts to use BTC as a form of payment in store for purchases of goods which weren't very successful. But I got information that in Vietnam and some regions of china many restaurants, and shopping malls are accepting pi as payments. There is a huge P2P transaction is going on all over the internet for pi because of its demands. It seems totally hype to me but what is going on right now tells me one thing and that is Pi is not a scam.



Some downside of Pi, in my opinion, is you can only use Pi through your smartphone and you need to pass KYC to use your mined Pi.

748  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency an Alternative in Resisting Economy Hardship on: August 09, 2022, 04:54:17 PM
True or false, fake or not, it's a good thing to open the minds of the people who doesn't even have a savings in their bank because they don't trust their own currency. Probably at certain parts of the world where their fiat doesn't have a good value.
That's when a question cloud my mind.
How are they buying? Where?
They could be at the top countries of why Bitcoin is most searched but there's a possibility that it ends there.
Availability will be the barrier on why they cannot invest. Visualize being a merchant accepting less valuable fiat (high risk to fall) in exchange for Bitcoin.

Not only African country people from many southeast countries like Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and Bangladesh are also trying to find a safe shelter from inflation. Since covid till now Pakistan faces hyperinflation, Srilanka is insolvent, and Bangladesh is also on the way to meeting the same consequences.

Southeast Asia is one of the most densely populated places on the earth where most people use technology every day. This region of the world is an ideal place for the mass adoption of cryptocurrency and I can see this is going to happen due to the economic crises in that country. Crypto is already very popular in countries like Vietnam, Thailand, and Indonesia so this new wave of changes also influencing these countries too.
749  Economy / Economics / Re: Social media, now looking more for business than for socializing. on: July 31, 2022, 05:10:49 PM
Social media made people more unsocial. People like to keep in contact with many virtual individuals but most of them are not very active in real-life social programs. Social media is not free, we actually paid them with the knowledge of ourselves which they sell or use for marketing.

We are living in a time when data is the biggest asset. All these social media sell their user data for money and those data have also been collected for marketing purposes.
750  Economy / Economics / Re: Surprisingly, Elon's Tesla is not so keen on hodling BTC anymore on: July 31, 2022, 04:58:25 PM
This is shocking news that they sold out their holdings at a loss. This could demotivate other institutional investors not to invest in crypto anymore. But in the long run, this will bring stability to the crypto space. Too much holding of assets into an institutional investor is not a good thing especially if it has a limited supply like bitcoin.

But I hope other big corporations will be more involved in crypto. Especially I am looking for companies like EA Sports, Microsoft, google, etc.
751  Economy / Economics / Re: (over)population - doomsters vs boomsters on: July 30, 2022, 05:56:38 PM
The population is not a problem if we have a proper management system. In most centuries earth's population decreases because of diseases and war. This will continue until the end of the human race. Elon says something like that because he wants to send earth people to mars.

Overpopulation can be doomsters and boosters if we failed to manage our society in a proper way.
752  Economy / Economics / Re: Elon and his bag of tricks on: July 30, 2022, 05:50:10 PM
I'm happy that he has sold most of their holding and I will be looking forward to seeing him sell everything, enough of his manipulation, he will be known for his short-term growth in the bitcoin journey.

It's funny how it's always adoption when big names are buying, and it's always manipulation if they ended up selling, ain't it? Especially knowing that Tesla actually ended up lost money. It's pathetic.

It is necessary to kick out investors like tesla and Michel saylor. They are bringing some attention and money into the crypto space but this affects the overall situation of the crypto market. What it will be beneficial if most of the BTC is in the hands of a few people. Also, I think miners have a big impact on the BTC market. BTC mining cost and current price also affect the BTC market.
753  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2022, 05:42:17 PM
I actually thought it would go down after the USA Q2 figures.

Glad I'm not into trading.

What a mindfuck. I don't believe anything these guys says.

I remember a funny comment on a YouTube BTC daytrader channel years ago someone saying "Just do the opposite of what this guy says, I've made thousands so far."  Grin

yes bro sometimes it's that funny.
Q2 may not show a capable market fanatic but what you say is logical and makes me want to try it.
Even though it seems just fun, standing and waiting is also necessary with defense and risk readiness.
It's a bit of a sweat to be different and against nature's laws of prediction and joint activity. But it's worth trying.

You do not need to listen to anyone if you do a history check about the BTC market. Everything is going on according to previous historical data. At least that is what I have learned so far. You just need to connect the dot to see that.

Still sometimes unexpected happens and market do something that it have never done before. So I am not 100% accurate but i am 90% sure about it.
754  Economy / Economics / Re: How Much Garden You Would Need to 100% Survive On on: July 23, 2022, 05:40:49 PM
This source claims an average of 200 square feet needed to produce adequate food for 1 person. Which conflicts with many claiming its impossible to grow sufficient food on 1 acre of land, which is 43,560 square feet.

I think it assumes the usage of chemical fertilizers, which are increasing in price due to them being manufactured from natural gas. While it may be possible to grow food in a reasonably small space, the dollar cost of soil, dirt, containers, compost, seeds, plants, mulch. And the man hours of care necessary could make the bar to entry prohibitive for many.

Money, experience and time appear to be the largest obstacles to solve for the world to fully embrace independent & organic food production.

You can grow more crops in a small place if you have enough knowledge and resource to do that. In many urban places where open space to grow crops is hard to find, people use their rooftops.

People in the modern world like to be involved in service work that doesn't require any physical effort and they intend to buy foods from the market. Very few show interest in growing their own foods by investing some time because they can earn more money within that time if they do other work.
755  Other / Politics & Society / Re: High inflation is causing GLOBAL protests on: July 21, 2022, 03:48:44 PM
I think it the time to kick out useless paper cash from our economy came. The current economic system has proved to be a massive failure. A petrodollar is nothing but a valueless piece of paper that is backed by fake promises and assets that don't exist. Govt just fooling us by printing more paper which devalued our assets continuously. A cashless economy and blockchain need to be implemented for better transparency.
756  Economy / Economics / Re: Surprisingly, Elon's Tesla is not so keen on hodling BTC anymore on: July 21, 2022, 03:42:29 PM
Eventually he slowly gave up on something (bear market pressure maybe), I expected this. At least a large number of bitcoins are no longer owned by an influencer and hope to be more distributed although for now I'm more convinced that bitcoin is still under the ownership of the p2p company where he cashed the bitcoins.

He said Tesla did this to get more cash for these terrible market conditions. When others increase their portfolio size they sell it off. I think this is good for a better future in the crypto space. It will be good to have 1k BTC in 1k people's hands than having all this BTC in a single hand. They will not be able to manipulate the market that much if the coin is distributed widely rather than sitting into a small group of people.
757  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are we gradually approaching towards the end of Bitcoin? on: July 18, 2022, 04:02:06 PM
The precarious cryptocurrency market has been made worse by cryptocurrency lender Celsius' June declaration that it is banning withdrawals owing to "extreme market conditions." Following the market meltdown, crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital might possibly be insolvent. Three Arrows Capital has entered liquidation, worsening the crisis gripping the whole world's market for digital assets. Three Arrows was is also considering alternatives including the sale of assets or a firm's rescue.
https://news.sky.com/story/crypto-hedge-fund-three-arrows-capital-plunges-into-liquidation-12642402

With the continuous downslide of the Bitcoin and the crypto market at large, is it too soon to say that we might likely be witnessing the end of it all?

Yes, we are witnessing the end but not for crypto. Many things will be ended by crypto. The unethical intervention of govt to our economy, one country's currencies sovereignty, force, and unreasonable tax implementation from the govt and many more. This all will be fade away once the whole society adopt decentralized economy.

Right now we are seeing some downside of it but that's normal. Gradually we will overcome this type of problems and the market will be more matured over time.
758  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Countries have banned Bitcoin; Do you believe is because of criminal activities on: July 18, 2022, 03:41:10 PM

Most countries are giving excuses and  reason for banning Bitcoin is because it can easily be used to fund crimes.
But I think they are afraid of losing control of their citizens' financial activities because they believe being the ones regulating financial activities makes them powerful.
What are your thoughts

Let them do whatever they can. It is not the first time countries tried to restrict the use of BTC among their people by discouraging them with various actions. This is the beauty of decentralization. You can see it, you can feel it, you can use it but you can not control it. It's like the wave of the river. If you try to stop it in one way it will find another way because its only destination is to move forward.

We are in a fast-evolving world and crypto is evolving into something totally different than the world has ever seen. I am not afraid of new innovations. I like it and I want to explore it.
759  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 18, 2022, 03:44:00 AM
760  Economy / Speculation / Re: Everything down against the USD, which is down.. on: July 17, 2022, 03:33:07 PM
Everything is going in the favor of bitcoin. Now people are forced to find alternatives to paper cash. Most people will go for metal and real estate now but the smart one will go for crypto. There won't be so long when most people want to be a bitcoiner but it will be so late for most of them. I consider myself so lucky that I am so early than most of the people out there.
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