Mass adoption probably won't happen in a way we're expecting it to happen in. I don't think that it will a regular thing to pay for your coffee or dinner using BTC. It may become a way of paying for something online, but I do see it more as a backbone technology and asset of some sort (yet to be determined).
It's probably going to take a lot of marketing work to get it out there for the common pleb. Probably some celebrity using it and tweeting about it would make it really known amongst the non geek herd. I don't think that people can be influenced that easily. There needs to be an incentive to use it. Marketing doesn't work how many people think it works. If it was enough to have some rich celebrities advertising your product, the Tidal music service wouldn't fail like it apparently does. The Tidal comparative is a good one. However, some good ol marketing never hurts. The great thing on Bitcoin is accepting payments as an entepreneur.. just look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0dolA7NBbIThis girl for example, is selling her own clothes overcoming the banking hell, just with a simple BTC wallet. |
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Greek will not adopt bitcoin. You have to work to earn bitcoin, it cannot be printed.
That is actually a very intelligent comment. The main problem would be how Greece would even adopt Bitcoin to begin with! I mean, they would have to get everyone to have a certain amount of BTC to get things going. I don't think this is feasible in any way, other than maybe the population deciding to only accept BTC. This is actually a global problem. Whenever I talk to people about Bitcoin they tell me "how to get them"? They can't fathom is just another currency, that it would be as stupid as saying, "how to get japanese yens"? or something like that. They aren't interested if its not free money. |
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Im personally hopping for DaDice to sort the avatar problem as soon as possible to participate, which would mean a small extra, and next month I should be a Senior Member, which should be another small extra, feels good man.
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Well the main challenge really is increasing the awareness of humans, but there are so many forces that benefit from having an ignorant population. We have a bullshit education system that maintains that ignorance, where the values and grading system are almost upside down. Look at a group of ultra successful people - it's interesting to see how many dropped out of school, likely because they didn't see value in it. Even look at kids with ADHD. They are usually totally obsessed with a few things in life, which are not mainstream, and that obsession allows them to be amazing at it. Instead of seeing that talent, we start drugging them out at the age of 7 on ritalin and adderal because they don't give a shit about what their grade 2 teacher is writing on the blackboard?? That kid is the aware one. Internet is helping a lot, as localized ignorance is being shed with exposure to other parts of the world that couldn't be accessed before.
Yea i agree, mental ilness, for the most part is a made up bullshit. We label them mentally ill just because they have a different world perspective. I mean an ant or an owl has a different world perspective but we dont lock them up in a white room... Now of course there are dangerous psychotic people, but those are a minority, but these autistic people I dont think they are ill, they just have a different world view, which for obvious reasons the establishment doesnt like
With a conscious population, where humans are treated as humans and people don't segregate into national/racial/religious teams, there wouldn't be wars. We're not there yet, but it's improving slowly. Not too long ago, there were slaves and people were burned alive for "witchcraft".
I disagree, 50% of the population are just savages, i mean they can kill eachother over a football game, how more primitive-tribalish can you get after 2000 of years of supposed civilization? I dont think you can ever get to those idiots, they will just remain the plague of society, then theres another 40% that are just conformists, they do what they are told, and not question authority, and the rest of the 10% are "enlightened" writers, philosophers, thinkers, the basic intelligent people that can drive humanity ahead. So far society is organized in that way that those 10% drive humanity forward and the other 90% are just leeching on it. Sociopaths are usually very charming. But they lack the ability to feel or express genuine emotion. People that communicate with emotion will feel a void there, and the rest won't suspect anything.
Doesnt matter, the conformist will always get fooled by them. They are the predators of humanity. Gizelles always get hunted by lions, the same way humans will always be hunted by our own predators. It's not like the gizelles have ever stand up agains the tyrrany of lions?  Decentralization just goes back to reducing the size and power of government. It's amazing how much money and resources go to the government when it's well understood that any government entity will be the least productive.
Yea but let's be honest, some leftists may say that libertarians and such dont care about the poor. And the truth is, that we actually don't. So let's be honest atleast and dont try to lie about it. Being poor in a free society is only because of ignorance. Being poor today can be understood, but once we get rid of these vampires, there will be no more excuse to be poor because all opportunities will be opened then and only a lazy idiot would starve in that society. All of your reasoning is based around the assumption that physical determinism isn't true. If physical determinism ever got proven, the whole system would basically collapse, since it basically means there is no such thing as free will. The thing, it's extremely naive and a coping mechanism, to think we have 100% free will. Someone born in a shitty place with no money and average genetics is most likely going to be stuck on their economical class for life, statistically it's a fact. If you get paid low and you can't barely make any savings because it goes to basic expenses such as food, electricity, etc, you are fucked and destined to remain poor. Thinking otherwise is just self delusion to sleep better at night. Well with or without free will, the decisions you make are impacted by genetics and the environment that you're in. Without free will, it is pure cause and effect. So what we are talking about really is the environment, which will impact the decisions that everyone makes. Think about how heavily conditioned kids are - from their parents, family, friends, from their school system, from media and advertising. If we don't have free will and are just a distant echo of the big bang, wouldn't it be beneficial to back off on the intense conditioning? With or without free will it will still change society. So given the importance of the environment we are in, how does our current monetary system and government affect our environment? Are resources distributed appropriately? Do the most intelligent and benevolent and selfless people become leaders? Not really. But of the infinite possibilities, there is an environment where it would be so. If we take the premise of the environment being everything as the source of the outcome, it wouldn't matter because genetics would dictate how you react to said environment, which means that if you try to change the environment it was because your genetics allowed to do so, therefore rendering free will irrelevant as we know it. |
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I'd like to suggest that all faucets are announced/discussed in a sub category in the 'Service Announcement' board. A faucet isn't a service, nor does it bring anything useful to the community (any more). They are made solely for the advertisement profit, nowadays at least (hence why most faucet owners control several sites, often above 10, to earn from visitors).
Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Service Announcements > Faucet Announcements
True, Faucets are pretty useless nowadays for anyone that has spent more than a week on BTC, but for those that are incredibly new, their first satoshis can be acquired for free to play with wallets and experiment. For example, its great to have free satoshis to send from your computer to your smartphone or paper address for testing. In this serve they provide this service. |
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Great news, hope the rest of the countries would follow. How ridiculous it would be that you had to pay VAT for every single conversion between ALTs too? because if they consider it a good, it would mean you would need to pay VAT for alt-to-alt conversion too. How would they even be able to track all of that? lol, its so stupid. Glad they just made it VAT free.
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Whats the point of vanity addresses tho? The only thing it accomplishes is making it easier to track down your BTC. I would never use them. If you have a business you should use different addresses anyway. I guess its just for shits and giggles?
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What happened specifically with the avatars? seems like no one is getting paid the bonus in the spreadsheet.
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Well the main challenge really is increasing the awareness of humans, but there are so many forces that benefit from having an ignorant population. We have a bullshit education system that maintains that ignorance, where the values and grading system are almost upside down. Look at a group of ultra successful people - it's interesting to see how many dropped out of school, likely because they didn't see value in it. Even look at kids with ADHD. They are usually totally obsessed with a few things in life, which are not mainstream, and that obsession allows them to be amazing at it. Instead of seeing that talent, we start drugging them out at the age of 7 on ritalin and adderal because they don't give a shit about what their grade 2 teacher is writing on the blackboard?? That kid is the aware one. Internet is helping a lot, as localized ignorance is being shed with exposure to other parts of the world that couldn't be accessed before.
Yea i agree, mental ilness, for the most part is a made up bullshit. We label them mentally ill just because they have a different world perspective. I mean an ant or an owl has a different world perspective but we dont lock them up in a white room... Now of course there are dangerous psychotic people, but those are a minority, but these autistic people I dont think they are ill, they just have a different world view, which for obvious reasons the establishment doesnt like
With a conscious population, where humans are treated as humans and people don't segregate into national/racial/religious teams, there wouldn't be wars. We're not there yet, but it's improving slowly. Not too long ago, there were slaves and people were burned alive for "witchcraft".
I disagree, 50% of the population are just savages, i mean they can kill eachother over a football game, how more primitive-tribalish can you get after 2000 of years of supposed civilization? I dont think you can ever get to those idiots, they will just remain the plague of society, then theres another 40% that are just conformists, they do what they are told, and not question authority, and the rest of the 10% are "enlightened" writers, philosophers, thinkers, the basic intelligent people that can drive humanity ahead. So far society is organized in that way that those 10% drive humanity forward and the other 90% are just leeching on it. Sociopaths are usually very charming. But they lack the ability to feel or express genuine emotion. People that communicate with emotion will feel a void there, and the rest won't suspect anything.
Doesnt matter, the conformist will always get fooled by them. They are the predators of humanity. Gizelles always get hunted by lions, the same way humans will always be hunted by our own predators. It's not like the gizelles have ever stand up agains the tyrrany of lions? Decentralization just goes back to reducing the size and power of government. It's amazing how much money and resources go to the government when it's well understood that any government entity will be the least productive.
Yea but let's be honest, some leftists may say that libertarians and such dont care about the poor. And the truth is, that we actually don't. So let's be honest atleast and dont try to lie about it. Being poor in a free society is only because of ignorance. Being poor today can be understood, but once we get rid of these vampires, there will be no more excuse to be poor because all opportunities will be opened then and only a lazy idiot would starve in that society. All of your reasoning is based around the assumption that physical determinism isn't true. If physical determinism ever got proven, the whole system would basically collapse, since it basically means there is no such thing as free will. The thing, it's extremely naive and a coping mechanism, to think we have 100% free will. Someone born in a shitty place with no money and average genetics is most likely going to be stuck on their economical class for life, statistically it's a fact. If you get paid low and you can't barely make any savings because it goes to basic expenses such as food, electricity, etc, you are fucked and destined to remain poor. Thinking otherwise is just self delusion to sleep better at night. |
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It might not be dead but its been dying for a while. It just doesn't have the merchant adoption behind it and people have realized over time that it's just another alt coin and there's nothing really special about it really.
what do you think will people will buy some lits....on this price..???will you? Only if you enjoy going down with a sinking ship. It's really hard to say. What would happen if BTC cant figure out the blockchain size problem? Litecoin seems like the most inmediate replacement or at least temporal replacement. I would never count Litecoin as dead until it goes even lower. But yeah, I don't think BTC will ever go throught enough problems that people migrate. |
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Right now, it seems like bitcoin is moving slowly. Winklevoss ETF is in regulatory hell. GBTC sits there (not trading) with <100 BTC in bids. Still few places in your average city where you can use bitcoin. Remittances are not really catching on as fast as we thought.
But in reality, bitcoin in 2013 was 100% amateur bullshit. Alpaca socks, Mark Karpeles, friedcat, and DPR.
It's really hard for me to decide whether we're moving fast or slow.
It's too new too judge, only geeks and VC entrepeneurs see the potential, just like at the begining only a few saw the potential for the internet. I would say it's moving a similar pace. It took years for the internet to become usable for the average pleb, just like every other new technology out there. Give it more time. |
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This is either an ellaborate troll (and by elaborate I mean unemployed, with a lot of time on his hands, or rich enough to waste time like this), or someone that forgot to take the schizophrenia pills. Either way, get well OP.
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I don't see clear benefits vs what we have now. I guess those that do day trading could see some advantages. For me, someone that only keeps the coins at an exchange for the 5 minutes it takes to do my required operations then back to the local wallet, is not that relevant.
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I'm very disappointed! They use to be better than that, they totally misunderstood BTC. They consist only of data. And data can be copied without a great deal of effort. There is therefore a risk of the same "digital coin" being spent more than once. Their conclusion is hardly better: In the end, the question remains: Who do you trust more, your own central bank or an anonymous online network? Maybe in Switzerland, people can trust their central bank, but that's not the case in the US or in the EU. Lol, they are as clueless as ever if they even't can fathom how awesome Satoshi was solving the double spending problem. These old cunts can't even get the basics of Bitcoin. |
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What? Do they want to become a bank? Soemthing like that it seems lol. The beauty of Bitcoin is you have choices over imposition: You can be your own bank, or if you dont trust yourself, you can let a 3rd party to take care of them if you trust the more than you trust yourself (for example Xapo acts as a bank). |
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10 years to collect cheap ass BTC before the next rally goes x10 ATH, seems like a good plan to me and anyone that has a good understanding of what is going on. Good thinking... So it's in our best interest for BTC to go to double digits then. I don't really care. If you are aware of were the world is going, you know that in the end Bitcoin will be recognized as something extremely revolutionizing and useful all over the world. This just started, and at the very beginnings of revolutionary technology the 99% don't know how to deal with it. Worrying about the price right now is mental masturbation, what matters is the technology, just like the internet was a mess at the begining, but if you aren't an idiot you could see the potential early on. |
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I remember when this happened it was quite a story. I actually think that they should let the bot do it's work to see how it will act over time. As long as the people who received the drugs got rid of them or gave them in. It's magnificent that we can achieve something like this. I'm wonder though why did it chose the items that he did (incl. ecstasy)?
Well, if you are chilling at home and suddendly the door rings and you get some free high quality weed, who would throw it away? I would say thanks robot and proceed. |
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hi.
in russia that will close bitcoin after how will be impact on bitcoin ?
maybe that bitcoin price very drop down ?
My take is that it will be irrelevant to the market price. Whoever is into Bitcoin now, knows how to circumvent bans, because only intelligent, geeky people into technology are into Bitcoin in 2015, the dumb mass will take 10 years to get it. |
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Incredibly useful thread, thanks
Im looking for a campaign with the following features:
1) no phone verification BS
2) paid directly to your bitcoin address
3) automatically re-enrolled (no stress to constantly think you'll lose your spot next week/month
4) ideally automated payments where you can keep a record of your payments (I dont get why every single campaing isn't doing this already)
What would you recommend me? The current im at (bit-x) has decent payment rates, definitely more worth your time than Bitmixer which is stuck with the 0.0007 for everyone regardless range... but they do not force you to register in an exchange and a pay a commission everytime you withdraw, plus you have to use your phone everytime you log in (wtf)
Im looking at Da Dice right now, solid rates, better than Bitmixer and Bit-x, but I dont know if once you are in you need to re enroll or you are safe. Also they seem to not have automatic payment system..
Also have in mind i post around 6-8 post daily on average and not more
please recommend me something, specially now that i'll be Sr Member soon i would like to join the best campaing possible
thanks
Sure. Da Dice satisfies the first 3 conditions.  If you want to keep track of payments, in terms of btc, simply check up blockchain, in terms of posts it is there in the spreadsheet Archves, but it will take a little time unless you use the ctrl+F feature. You will of-course be auto-enrolled every week till you opt out. That said, you will get kicked out if your post quality sucks. (or if someone catches you with a different sig) Cheers  P.S. There are also be other campaigns that offer some or many of the things you are looking for. Feel free to check them out in the OP. Edit: For 6 to 8 posts a day, pay per post campaign will be a better option. This definitely sounds good, me and some mates will probably move there asap. I would still love to see the automation system bit-x/bitmixer style in the future tho The payments are exactly 7 days after enrolling automated, or a person does the payments manually? because i like to know at what hour exactly i will get paid, coz I like to time it and have the btc arrive on my phone right on friday night where i can spend it on the street (i've found lots of places that accept btc lately). I was able to do this with bitmixer (to know exactly when the payment arrives) and i think bit-x does this too because its also automated. How much can you do with $30 in BTC!?  A lot, it's a small little extra i can spend on cigs, drink, or cinema tickets... a lot of stuff costs only 30 dollar |
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