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7421  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: March 27, 2017, 05:50:57 AM
i usually do this . im investing on a business with my income so it literally im making money from money also. it's just a cycle and i can say that it's has more advantage than investing on a business with a loan money. much better if you make money from your own income and make again another money from the future income waiting for you.

Its never wise to take a loan and invest that money as if your investment goes wrong then it will become difficult for you to repay the amount with additional interest so the best thing would be to save enough money on regular basis and once you reach to good level of savings you can start investing that money.
That's a big gamble but if you are confident enough with your investment then why refrain from doing it, everything has a risk and only those who
are willing to take the risk will able to get the reward. If it's in my situation and i fee like I have like 80% of success I would certainly borrow money
and aggressively jump on that investment. I know there are people who would prefer to play safe but if you dream big you need to risk big.
7422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 27, 2017, 05:29:35 AM
Los Angeles Lakers vs Portland Trailblazers, I think the odds are good for Trailblazers to win @ 1.45x.  Trailblazers seem to be in a good form and have had a good run in the past 10 games, winning 7 out of 10 games. Lakers on the other hand, have won just twice in previous 10 games. It's happening in Staples Center but I feel Trailblazers should win this with ease.
It is at L.A home town and in front of their fans so they will try and make an effort to please them.
They do score a lot of points (from what I remember of there last game I bet on and won a good amount). But yes they are no match for Portland cause they are a cohesive team when they are dominant the way they played yesterday.
My bet would be over on points tonight in this game.
Let's hope for a win for all who placed this bet. Wink
The game went under, Lakers were hype when they won on their last match but they are facing now a healthy portland squad with a mission to win.
It was a great game for the Blazers indeed and I personally won the -6 ATS with no sweat at all. Easy game as I can call it and backing with Blazers has been very profitable as the playoffs is incoming.
7423  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: March 27, 2017, 03:42:22 AM
Saving in the bank is important most especially for emergency purposes. Now, there are now banks which offered better rates. Here in my country, cooperatives are offering higher returns especially on time deposits. Now, spread your money by also buying gold, stocks and yes also Bitcoin as it can indeed be giving a good rate of return because of its volatility. Just be careful, though.
The rates offered is very low compared to what you can earn if you will risk your money in real investment, putting our money in banks only safeguard
our money and investors knew that. Me, I have a bank account but I do not consider the amount I earn as interest is big enough, I do focus more on
trading and investing for my earning and honestly I do save only in bank for security purpose. At least I'm sure my money is covered with deposit insurance.
7424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: March 27, 2017, 02:24:33 AM
If you jump into trading without any knowledge and skills then there will be no difference between trading and gambling as in both cases you are depending only on luck to make profits which can be really risky so its always good to get into trading only after learning and gaining some knowledge about the market.
That's a very dangerous move, I guess we can barely see that kind of people who's into trading that does not understand that assets they are trading.
It's different in gambling because even if you will not do enough research as long as you enjoy the game you'll probably last without minding your
loses.

Trading also is risky but it's not gambling for the information of everyone, in fact we can have a long term success in trading which is hard to do in gambling.
7425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: March 26, 2017, 09:49:47 AM
When you can play with your profit do it, you don't need to risk your money anymore, if you lose the profit at least you won't lose the initial money you risked before.
But don't go so far, because you can end without profit and profit is our goal when gambling, doesn't make sense to play until the last satoshi and finish without any profit.

if this is what you do then you can only playing with small bets, but for me, i will not play with my profit since its only small money, but i will stick with my base bets. playing with base bet could have bigger chance than only play with our profit, because we still can play and save our profit until its big so we can withdraw and still use our base bet to continue played.
I guess what is important is to have a good amount of bankroll and that entire bankroll of yours should be manage properly. If you play for profit
the more you need to manage it and I'll tell you based on my experience that small bankroll will only frustrate you especially if you have a big goal
of amount to win. A successful gambler should be realistic with his approach, we need money to make money here and therefore we should set what is needed.

yeah you're right and we should not make a big goal if our money is not big because its too difficult to get big money for gambling with small money. but for have a good amount of bankroll, i think there is depend on how much we want to use our money in gambling games so we can trying to manage it.
You'll be able to get a good amount of money if you are lucky in gambling but chances are very low especially coming from a small amount
of bankroll. There are gamblers who are making real money but they raised a good bankroll because it's their job and they are making a living on it.
Honestly, I want to make a fortune in gambling and I believe some gamblers also but it seems like this is an impossible mission to make.
7426  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you should Buy bitcoin now on: March 26, 2017, 09:34:10 AM
There is an upcoming price decrease that will happen sooner and the best way is to stock your dollars and get ready for that event. It will happen when the Hardfork will be officially released and will cause a stir in the community and will cause some panic selling.

you sound like a guy with a time machine so i would like to ask you: where did you buy it? because i would love to buy myself one to put on my balcony and know the upcoming "price decreases" and "hard forks" with the level of certainty you are talking about them!!!
Let's just see what will happen, that fear is not going to happen as bitcoin will always stay at a very stable price we see right now.
Why would anyone panic when the price is still at it's best, we see how the price pump and dump and there is no special with that, it happens
all the time. When you panic that will be the end as I'm sure when it happens, whales will only benefit on the situation and take advantage of the weak
holders.
7427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: March 26, 2017, 08:13:04 AM
Nobody gets addicted to gambling on their own consent, it is greed which makes them do it regularly.
Whether it is a win or a loss, both are different situation and will influence the person in different ways.
When someone wins, they think that they might try their hands on it due to having luck, but who knows next, still they gamble.
When they lose, they would definitely give it a try to recover back their past loss on their next winning, the same applies to the rest.
Sad but it's the reality, when we lose we always chase our loses as we gamblers wants to be in the winning side always.
Being addicted is a bad situation as all your strategies and analysis would not work, it's your emotion that will dictate it all and you'll never
gonna have a win if you do gambling like that. The thing is, we love to win but we do not have the right skills to win, winning is only for awhile
because eventually we will just lose all our money. It's okay to lose because it's part of the game already but to be addicted is not what we are hoping.
7428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: March 26, 2017, 07:29:11 AM
Yes, trading is gambling since you take chances with the commodities or currencies market. You can loose everything and gain everything just as in hard core gambling so I will classify it as gambling too.

There is a vast difference between trading and gambling and cannot be treated as same as gambling is totally dependent on luck and no strategy can help you in winning or making profits but in trading if you have a good knowledge about the market and if you have a good strategy then there is always a chance of making decent profits on regular basis.
Trading and gambling differ by the way it's used to make profit. Gambling as said completely depends upon the luck even though we make strategies. One thing that makes trading better is the handful of opportunities that we get to minimize the loss with several business tactics.
But there are gambling games that do need experience but most of the time it does need luck for you to be able to make profits and you are right they have different way on making profit since on trading you can possible maximize your profits depending on how you gonna trade and how will you create your own trading pattern or styles which would give you decent income on it even on long term basis which isnt possible on gambling.
If it does need experience you need to play it only for fun, you won't win if you lack experience and skills in gambling, this is the hardest venture in
our life which most of period who tried to win suffers the lose in the long run. Trading can give us a good chance to make money and as long as we
keep educating ourselves, eventually we will learn and be stable with our strategies to be successful in the long run.

Simple analysis is what you need, look at the comparison of the two, in gambling there are a lot of people telling they cannot win but in trading there's plenty of people trading is the key to make a good amount of money.
7429  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Saan kadalasan ginagastos o ginagasta ang kita sa bitcoin? on: March 25, 2017, 05:24:22 AM
Sa tingin ko sa luho. Marami ako kilalal na nagbibitcoin para makabili sila ng luho nila tulad ng cp, pc set, motor, atbp.
They deserved it because they work hard for it, bitcoin is really a good source of income as a small reward here could be big already for us especially if you are a student and you are just an easy go lucky guy. As for me, I cannot do things like that, I have a family so I need to focus on their needs
than my wants, I also spend sometimes for myself because I believe we also need to be rewarded for our hard work but that was only a little portion of my income.
7430  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: March 25, 2017, 04:59:25 AM
If governments banned bitcoin, it wouldn't last long. The price would drop down to nothing most likely, but I think we are far enough along that this would not happen.

First of all, not ALL the governments are going to ban the crypto-currency. Even if they ban them, the vast majority of the third world nations lack the resources to implement such a ban. Do you really think that a country like Somalia, which is embroiled in civil war right now is going to detain and prosecute thousands of people just for using Bitcoin?
yes that can be right to say i think not a single governments is going to banned bitcoin i think
The system is not the main problem, it's the users because there are those who take advantage of the system of bitcoin and uses it in illegal activities.
Of course if you think it very clear anything can be use in illegal activities including fiat, this will not be ban as long as it will not create a massive panic and most users are willing to comply with the law of the government. Taxes and money laundering are the main issues but if that is properly regulated, there would be no problem at all.
7431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: March 24, 2017, 08:25:28 AM
I think yes because as of now many bitcoin gambling sites are accepting bitcoin if you will look on this forum so I think yes, but In real world only fiat will be the only one because the value of it is not pumping and dumping.
Gamblers main objective to gamble and all they want is to look for a site that could give them a convenience when gambling and bitcoin has offered that to them and they adopt it. The price volatility or the pumping and dumping as you said is not a big problem because any time they would convert their bitcoin to fiat and knowing that there is an equal movement of that pump and dump, it will not make them deficit.
7432  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - CONGRATULATIONS TO WONTON FOR WINNING 300BTC on: March 24, 2017, 07:55:14 AM
Congratulations to the winner you do your best .. in gambling you can win or lose and if you are lucky your good . you cannot sure your win in gambling because you spend a lot of money.. If i win 300btc the  200btc i will saved to my wallet and 100btc in gambling because its good to saved money than play all money in gambling.

Bitdice seems to be good dice and roll gambling here. Simply he can put his 100$ and he can gambling. Please do not use Autobot option when you gamble using big amounts. Last we saw 100 btc winner also. Best of luck for the bitdice casino members. So far I have used .0.03 btc in gambling but I lost all using auto bot option in dice. Is there any option to win frequent? Please suggest.
I also do not use auto bot as I know it cannot think and cannot handle the situation coming to us in different timing of rolling dice. You lost only small money for that money anyone will use auto bot but for higher amount like 100 BTC only fool will go for that option.
I find it not fun when using bot every time I gamble, I tried it at first but then I get bored in the long run. I believe playing dice needs luck and luck is always in our hands and not in the bot to manage our betting preference. High rollers win big amount because they risk bigger money so that's not something special, it so happen that they can afford what they bet. Let's just stay our comfort level to be safe and to stay entertain.
7433  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: March 24, 2017, 05:43:22 AM
hell yeah, amigo! if the price goes a little bit near $100 I would probably use all my $$$ to grab those coins. But well well well... are we dreaming here? dropping its price to nearly $100 is very impossible.

Yes, you are dreaming because it's impossible to happen, it's not going to happen for sure. Consider a golden chance to have bitcoin pricing 1000$ to buy it in time and continue holding until these nasty news about bu pass away.
I'm sure the classical bitcoin will continue as the main currency of all crypto currencies.
I would not say it's impossible because everything is possible in bitcoin, we hit a good price and there is a chance to hit the lowest price as well.
The only thing is that if one would wait for that price to happen before buying, he might miss the opportunity to earn actively and take advantage of the volatility of bitcoin's price, I for sure when the price falls that low would also consider buying, we know how the bitcoin perform so eventually it will rise again.
7434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: March 24, 2017, 05:17:41 AM
Yes of course they make sense you can't be like other's who have huge funds of course everyone has their own limits so normally what will happen if you deposited 10$   you will get 11$ while people who invested will get 110$. The return is same but you could only invest what you had so think in that way.
invest only the amount that you can afford to lose that's the general rules of investing, just like you've said mate its only differ with how much earnings will be collected or gained by those who invested much bigger with the same investment system  with you.
Yes that's true and luckily i do follow that most important rule of investing and haven't experienced much losses till now. But i hope you are also aware that in order to gain something or profit taking risk is really important

Investing what you can afford to lose was the general rule for hyip/ponzi. Don't apply it on normal investment because all bussinessman are ready to risk and know what will gonna happened if they lose their investment even though they can't afford to lose it. I do agree that risk is always there in avail to have a profit
That is the general rule for me and even in normal investment, though you risk money but it should be what you can afford to loss.
And who said that investing in HYIP/PONZI are worth, it's never because it will just scam you and that would not help you to grow as an investor.
Life is all about taking risk and we know that but it should be ensure that we are taking a calculated risks.
7435  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: March 24, 2017, 02:58:32 AM
Well giving up in gambling is not really easy but some gamblers stop gambling for a year, they just do there hobbies like working out or go to a gym and playing sports. According to them it's the best way to stop gambling, "just do your hobbies".
That is their interest and if they really love doing it then I would say it could help them to quit gambling completely. It's not easy when you cannot find a replacement that would make you spend your time, we have a limited time in this world and it's normal to focus on things that we love the most.
Gambling could be fun and a disaster but it depends on those who handle it, but I'm sure majority are happy gamblers.
7436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Investment Doubt on: March 24, 2017, 02:47:04 AM
Invest only in trusted site but for it is good to invest in your self and do the trading it is similar to gambling but lower risk. You can win in trading by just taking the strategies and don't make a investment in not trusted coin. Gambling investment is pretty risky so do it in your own go to trading.
One can trade if he wants but investing in gambling sites does not need skills in order to make money. Apparently, gambling sites are profitable and that's normal because they have the edge and they are profit oriented, ever wondering why a lot of gamblers loses money, that is because of low chance to win. With that, we should know where to side and never doubt investing in a gambling site.
7437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In what situation would Bitcoin die? on: March 22, 2017, 08:28:58 AM
How and why would the end of bitcoin (and any other cryptocurrency) occur? Value decrease? Legality issues? Different technology/ideas to supersede it?
Bitcoin is a digital currency eventually will die without its value, without value, just mean it has no users and demand, which means it is dead. I think it will be not having a value anymore because the peolle will be having a problem with it, the transactions, the blockchain. But I think bitcoin will not die because there are so many people who trusts this digital currency.
We the users are the reason why bitcoin is successful now and we can also be the reason if bitcoin will die. As long as we continue supporting, it will always be there but the moment we are discourage from using bitcoin due to some legal implication we might face, we will lose the interest of using it to keep ourselves safe.

Other possibilities also are when there's an altcoin that will attract more investors and supporters than bitcoin, for sure it will leave bitcoin to be worthless. Those are just possibilities actually but I think bitcoin is a very strong to be able to be replace by something new.
7438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: March 22, 2017, 06:58:43 AM
If bitcoin will be declared as illegal by every government then I will sell it immediately. Bitcoin value will plunge and owning one is just like owning a worthless paper. I would rather get a dollar or a gold that I know is impossible to be declared as illegal.
If that situation will come, you need to be very updated with the recent news to be able to sell your bitcoins at the right time because if you fail, you might end up holding a worthless currency. But don't worry mate because that possibilities in life will never happen, bitcoin will continue to progress as it is back by big investors and even the most financially successful in this world are backing bitcoin.
7439  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: March 22, 2017, 06:37:24 AM
Both options are fine but are different in their nature, in investing you rely on someone else to make your money grow for you, if you don’t have time to do it yourself then this is a good option, trading in the other hand relies on you knowing what to do with your money so you can obtain profits.
if you have more confidence in yourself than in others it would be better if you choose to trade it will depend on your skills and earnings will not be limited
Confidence comes with great knowledge, you trading because you believe on your skills but you need to prove it. Trading and investing are both good but everyone has their own expertise and we only need to focus on one to properly educate ourselves which is the main key for our success.
They can make your reach depending on how you manage yourself, if you take bigger risk, the result of success will also be bigger.
7440  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Manila meron na daw mga Maute jan on: March 22, 2017, 03:33:36 AM
Terrorist are everywhere and they are funded to destroy the government who does not favor them, with duterte's administration, we have seen a lot of improvement and the president is delivering his promises although not all but everything is on process and the right time will come.
If there will be rebellion and the lawlessness will happen, the president will declare martial which I think would be good for the benefit of the Filipino people.

Now, if you are thinking of a possible manipulation by the present administration, we cannot tell about that but all we have to do is trust him if you vote for him.
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