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7441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO CLOSED] Incent Loyalty | Waves token | $1.1m raised | Roll-out Q1 2017 on: December 27, 2016, 01:37:51 AM
Sorry for not being around the last days, as some might know I am travelling and therefore not online as much as usual  Smiley

We are still working on exchange listings - as soon as we have an agreement we will share it with you first!

Before you message me regarding a missing bounty make sure you checked the portfolio tab in the latest version of the Waves Lite client. Alternatively, check on www.wavesexplorer.com if you received your Incent. Make sure to include your address with 1W when using the block explorer, it's still using the old address system.

Distribution is ongoing - if you haven't already, put your personal Waves address in the ICO dashboard. Tranches are executed frequently meaning every other day. Next one is scheduled for after Christmas!

And last but not least, I wish you all a merry Christmas, enjoy the time with your family and friends and take care!  Smiley



Thank you for keeping us posted.  Can you pay extra attention to Bittrex exchange? 


I would like to purchase some more INCENT tokens since I believe in this project and unless this gets added to Bittrex I would simply be unable to do so for as much as I want to.

Thanks dev!

Karl has done it, but bittrex still doesn't give some attention about that. We already did it through the twitter and vote, but the easiest way to get a list on the bittrex just pay up to 3 btc and get your chair in there.  We are incent supporters.  Smiley
7442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 27, 2016, 01:15:46 AM
go go

Here would be a long term forecast:



I will order some of lambo to come in my house.  Cheesy But we will see it reach the equal price with ether in half of the next year. i was very optimism with this project. Totally a lot of the kind word was attacking the team .
Jani has do it with best.  Grin
7443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Zcash worth to invest in it? on: December 27, 2016, 01:04:12 AM

About the founder rewards and it's referring in zcash all about money. Roll Eyes lack of development and innovation, fully with fake hype. I may agree with the komodo platform, because the active innovation. but what about the shit coin like zcoin. It was totally shit right now.   Cool
My guess KOMODO will be the number one of the zero proof coin soon.

Completely agree with you mate. Among all other Zero Knowledge Proof cryptocurrencies, I think that Komodo will remain at the top while the others will follow. ZCash will continue with its hype until people realize that it was nothing rather than another altcoin, thus turning their attention into better and well developed coins that provide true innovation and stability.

As for me, will continue to watch over ZCash's price and development over time and see how it will be after 4 years. If all goes well into it, then I might invest a little into it, otherwise I will stick with Komodo and good old Monero.

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to see the technology of Zero Knowledge Proof to mature over time and become widely used among merchants, businesses, and everyday users. Smiley
The hype of ZEC had gone,  Just remaining a little whale waste his money to pump it sometimes. Interesting for watch it.  Grin

wait a year after ZEC was running and we can make any conclusion about that.   

There is a lot of potential in the zero knowledge proof.
Depends on how we can be digging it.
7444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is blockchain governance really worth it? on: December 27, 2016, 12:52:44 AM

IMO, It's referring into the private blockchain. And it wasn't giving a freedom for the civilians. The parties with high priority can be changing the blockchain rules every time.  So I don't think the blockchain governance was referring into the public blockchain and everyone was feeling free for using it.

I've thought about this too. Since governments would want control over the blockchain, they would need a private solution for them to be able to modify its rules. In the case of public chains, there could exist public governance within it, which would make it completely inmutable and free for anyone to develop within it.

In the end, if this becomes successful, I can see a world filled with private and public governments alike powered with blockchain technology which prevents fraud and aims to provide better security. Just sharing my thoughts.  Grin

No, they won't control the blockchain but made his blockchain. Hyper ledger is one of the examples. We may see a lot of fiat alt will run above the hyperledger soon.

Especially about be a serious compete for bitcoin later.
7445  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: December 27, 2016, 12:28:30 AM
It's a good investment because it has the tendency to rise and fall( but almost always rising lately) and it will be halving in 20 years so getting a few BTC's can secure your pension.
Most of the investors are afraid of the instability that bitcoin has , it being up and down does not help with it being used so often by people , but since the bitcoin is becoming more and more popular and has seen a huge rise in its price it is the best short term investment. If you are ready to take more risk then it could be a long term investment too.
Yes Bitcoins are best for short term investment but a bit risky for long term. In short term you can do trading so that you can get maximum benefit of fluctuating price. For long term I think it is better to invest in some best investing method so that reasonable return can be achieved.

It's not risky unless you think about the possible shutdown of the Internet globally. That would vanish all the money you have, but except that case.. It's not risky. The price needs to go up in order for Bitcoin to succeed. My question is, in case the miners will really achieve 21mil. BTC.. What will happen next to Bitcoin?
The Internet already globally and it will never be shut down. Bitcoin has succeeded, the high price and a lot of the adopters, that gives more guarantee for those people who adopt it.


If 21 million cap have reached by bitcoin, the miner will be finished for mine bitcoin and the bitcoin network still need the miner for securing the network and the possible thing the miner will still get his profit from the transaction fee. But it's not much. The price will like a rocket.
7446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Problems you often face online in Bitcoin world? on: December 26, 2016, 12:43:31 AM
Main problem was and if it will continues so, always will be confirmation of transactions. If you are going to make transaction of higher than 1 bitcoin with normal fee, than sometimes there is problem and you have to wait 1 week or in worst situation delete transaction in order to make it forgotten for networks. Another problem is that there is no chanse of returning sented bitcoin if you sent it in wrong place. All other thing are perfect.

The best way for try to fill your transaction fees with more money. Such the system was seeing your transaction be un-prioritized transaction. Spam can happen anytime and make your fees a higher than the first number was appearing.
But even if that will back to the previous place but it will take a long time and so boring.
7447  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Rally! Keep hold your coins! watch that chart 1200$ soon. on: December 26, 2016, 12:32:44 AM
WE going high! Trump is on! no worries!
Chart: http://bitcoinchart.io/#trump-china-chart

This time the chart was showing if the pump will happen, and it will go to $1000, this time for optimism. And will be different with 2014, this time the bitcoin goes with more stabilization and can hold his track at the right way for a long time.

Time for selling our bitcoin will be coming.
7448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this true or a speculation on: December 26, 2016, 12:19:50 AM
this happens all the time in bitcoin world..
all these websites claim to pay interest every day are ponzi schemes. Most cloud mining services are ponzi schemes. People need to understand there's no "free money".

if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
It's happening but with a little percentage and not all of the kind of bitcoin site(mostly HYIP and CM). And a lot of the reliable site news at the past time turned into the shady caused by that reason.
7449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Reasons to fork bitcoin in the future? on: December 25, 2016, 11:59:55 PM
I would prefer we use Soft Forks where possible and move towards a system like Core has done with SegWit.
The Chinese were ignoring it. SegWit will have deactivated.
They may push it into the simple hardfork.
Does SegWit need consensus? I don't think so although they were running the explicit consensus.

HF more preferable to SF,  Wink
7450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CROWDSALE IS ON] NODIO. A first blockchain router | 10% Bonus on: December 25, 2016, 12:37:00 PM
Don't worry guys, OP Is just working on a new idea for a different ridiculous device and can't say thanks for all the free moneys...
This sad but my speculation was correct. the project was running with hurry and without creating the contract.
A silly acts by the dev.   

I sure if this project will be the another scam project.
7451  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Is Bitcoin Trading and Why It's risky? on: December 25, 2016, 12:23:58 PM
bitcoin trading is entrust the majority of investment you have to buy be some bitcoin, then you sell it back. such that is rotation of bitcoin. while the risk is you will get a reduced amount of bitcoin as a prediction in the buying and selling bitcoin.
In essence, that's it, but to give a more complete answer to the OP, we have to say why it is so risky. The risk lies in the fact that the BTC market does not have very high liquidity when compared to the most common currencies. This brings some instability to the market, and it is one of the main causes of high volatility. This problem requires time to be resolved, since it is not yet common to see people buying and selling things using Bitcoin.
volatility depends on a lot of factors and not just the liquidity of the market for example the trust that people may have on a particular currency is very important, that is why when you see an economic crisis in a country you will also see a evaluation of their currency.
But, overall due to volatility people are calling bitcoin trading is so risky. But I never find like that. Because whenever I am finding my decisions are going against myself, I will just leave off that position opened and I will be waiting for the reversal of price movements, most of the time I do get profits after some waiting.
And you are never get lost from trading bitcoin? your method may work for those people aren't need a short profit(long term investment)
It can be opposite if those people need an instant profit at the time. And all of the people must feel it be an ordinary thing.
profit and loss indeed things that have become commonplace not only in trade but also in all businesses. no name is always profitable, surely no harm though little

And if can we stay away from it and why not? The trading is a choice, like choice your way, if you have chosen the right way and I think you will get a right result too. and otherwise. You're true about the loss but we have a chance for stay away from it. totally depend on the person.
7452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC38 hot wallet got hacked and lost 1.5 million on: December 25, 2016, 12:08:23 PM
I actually hope that customers won't lose trust in them, because btc38 has now learned their lesson and will pay way more attention to security in the future, compared to other exchanges who haven't been hacked.

Trust is like a mirror. Once broken, it is pretty difficult to restore at the previous condition.

It seems different with bitfinex, they can recover their trust member. at least if the mirror was broken, they still can use the little part of the mirror. 

But i hope they will be learning for it.
7453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 25, 2016, 11:54:08 AM
Finally a good shot Cheesy



A hungry shark loading 30k tokens of ICN...

The short hype, it was going down again, dude. I think it is the best chance for taking some profit.  Wink


To the moon!
Not for this time. dude.
7454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold? on: December 25, 2016, 02:11:41 AM
Yes, because their is solid fact to back the claim, Gold price is being manipulated by Central banks, although BTC price manipulation too exit but it is follow some technical chart but Gold price don't
You're right. The central bank is the biggest gold owner. It's mean the gold was controlling by them  Grin
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timtreadgold/2016/04/01/central-banks-follow-warren-buffetts-advice-when-it-comes-to-gold-buying-when-others-are-fearful/#560aa70b6357
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The second reason is that central banks have a unique position in the gold market, and have an ability to influence investor sentiment, for better and for worse.

That power lies in the fact that the central banks are the biggest owners of gold and when the biggest owner of anything, be it property or shares in a big company, their actions influence the market.
7455  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: December 25, 2016, 01:49:06 AM
LOL ,

It is as Strong or as Weak as China makes it.   Wink


 Cool





more weakness
And as like you said.  Tongue


How the stronger bitcoin? it will get stronger when the price of the yuan was decreasing and a lot of the Chinese will buy bitcoin. It seems like a migration place for the fiat user.  Cheesy
7456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: December 25, 2016, 01:28:20 AM
I will suggest investing into a mine in China because if they even think of banning some parts in China to mine it or even have a large amount of bitcoin then the price for their services there will be invaluable.
Why? It's mean you were running the service in an illegal way. Why must I place my money on the illegal way and every time the government can catch it and seize our hardware?Think again.
Back to the end of 2014 and the Chinese government had been made any announcement about banning bitcoin and it wouldn't have brought a good impact.
7457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: My 2017 predictions on: December 24, 2016, 10:37:15 AM
In. 2017 I foresee ethereum finally dead and Zcash taking over as the next big thing after bitcoins. Monero, litecoins and doge will also do their best.

Zcash can improve it's position in the market cap with other altcoins.




No ZEC will worth like a little pennies soon, It's sadly but true.
More coin will get dump and the price will decrease, and from over 2k btc and it worth a little pennies soon. It may take some years later for get his recovery price and wich mean will fly again over 1 btc.
7458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [ZEC] Zcash Speculation on: December 24, 2016, 10:29:21 AM
Is there a way with ZEC to move it to cold storage and know the private key and also be able to check the balance somehow on the "blockchain"?   


Here you go https://forum.z.cash/t/wallet-dat-private-key-z-t-addresses-what-to-backup/4506/8
It's better to go to the Zec environment.

And here.
https://explorer.zcha.in/
7459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: zcash soon 0.2 btc! on: December 24, 2016, 10:10:31 AM
zcash price never can inraese to 0.2 bitcoin agan
only wait zcash price down to 0.01 bitcoin
and then zcash price under price monero and etherum
is dev not want pump, zcash user community is low

It can, you are wrong if saying ZEC can't recover his price into the 0.2 again. The problem just on the supply. This time we are at the early mine and still have a long time later for zec will be touching over a million supply and seems like the bitcoin. The price will below ether and xmr , it will be true soon. I really believe with it. I will put some at the price was being below that ether and xmr.

If there is good usage, the supply is not a problem. There is no demand now. So the price is going lower.
There is no demand, the supply always increases every time which means the coin wasn't being rarely. The price will be still going down soon. But in this time there is no good usage.

Any reason for the recent price rise?
Short pump, There is no reason for that, Sometimes it's happening about some whale was pumping it for a little. But it will drop again below the past price before the little pumping happen. It's not mean anything for me. The common thing on the trade.
7460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔹🅰RK🔹[ANN][ARK] A Platform for Consumer Adoption with SmartBridge🔹 on: December 24, 2016, 02:52:29 AM
Those who ask for refund will cry after seeing ARK to the moon.
Any news when and how the sweepstakes reward will be paid?
thanx

They will cry hard.


Sweepstakes bounties will be added to your tec account. Depending on circumstances, we may distribute out bounties also on an individual basis if many don't have a tec account already.

Anyone who wants to let me know their TEC account email, I will add it to the spreadsheet.

Email Winners@ark.io and let me know your TEC email address and make sure to email me using the email address of the sweepstakes winner even if it is different.

Thank!

Thank you for your quick reply.I already sent email to Winners@ark.io after i seeing my name as a winner.Should i send them email again with the tec email?What if i create a tec account from the same email i used for bounty?this step will added my reward automatically?

No it's not automatic. I will have to enter it manually. What I was going to do was email all winners at the winning email asking for the TEC email address closer to mainnet launch.

Yes, please send me an email just saying "my TEC email is the same as this one" and I'll put a note on my logs.

Thanks!

This is what I'm looking for. Thank cana. Will I need to send an email to the Winners@ark.io again with my tech account?

told me that it is the same from their winning account.

Mostly, and I'm too. thanks, cana...

Let me know about the countdown to the main net launch. How about the price of the token, Is the token price depend on final ico amount after refund? or before the fund was getting a refund?
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