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7501  Economy / Economics / Re: Tokenising carbon emissions and creating an efficient and verifiable market on: March 09, 2021, 07:42:00 AM
Wait, I don't even know you could profit out of carbon emissions

It profits from others' carbon emissions. The "green" companies receive certificates and they can sell them to those who pollute.
I've read somewhere not long ago that Tesla, for example, earns more from carbon certificates than from making and selling cars.

This market can be clearly be made efficient by the use o blockchain, yet not completely decentralised I recon. Certification, rights of emission, participants proof of identity and exchanges are all a default in the blockchain world. This could save millions?

I'm not sure if blockchain would be of any help, since we don't talk about something that is or can become decentralized.
Also afaik the companies make their own deals with the certificates, with special prices based on the amounts, the previous (similar or not) deals between those companies and so on.
You know, "I sell you certificates cheaper and you sell me this or that components cheaper"; I don't have a full overview on that market, but I have a feeling that's more complicated than Bitcoin markets.
And in the future I expect it to change, as a result of politics deciding to "punish" even more the polluting businesses, maybe not rewarding this good the clean ones.
7502  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Ledger wallet question on: March 09, 2021, 07:11:11 AM
this happened two days ago and funds not there, so you reckon that the funds will appear at the wallet at some point??

Normally they should. But it depends where the sender have actually sent that money, the fee he used and other factors (including the sender's honesty).
If you think that's not a (privacy) issue, you can share the addresses where you expect the money and we check.
Or you can check yourself, go to blockchair.com, enter the address and see the transactions you have there - if any, is it confirmed and if it's not then what fee it's used and if is RBF enabled.
7503  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Ledger wallet question on: March 08, 2021, 08:46:08 PM
Using ledger for bitcoin wallet I accidentally shared two times the same address generated to receive funds
Ledger generates new address every time to receive, so one amount got there the other one lost,
what happened to the amount btc lost?? many thanks

Your wallet generates new addresses every time as it needs them - usually for receiving funds or change addresses in transactions.
Using a new address every time is recommended, that's why it shows you new address every time.
But all those addresses are part of the wallet and the funds you receive should be there, not lost, even if you receive funds there much later or multiple times.
7504  Local / Offtopic / Re: Astept pareri on: March 08, 2021, 08:38:14 PM
Desi in mod normal nu urmaresc canale de yt - doar caut cand si ce am nevoie, probabil ca ii voi da o sansa a lui tau si-l voi vizita din cand in cand, ca abordezi si subiecte care m-ar putea interesa.

1. Discursul lasa de dorit. Uneori nu pari prea convins de ce ar trebui sa mai spui sau ca ar trebui sa mai spui ceva  Smiley
Pe mine nu ma deranjeaza prea mult ca ma intereseaza mai mult ce vad decat ce aud, dar altii s-ar putea sa zic pass din cauza asta.
As zice sa fii atent si la greseli. Mi s-a parut ca am auzi inclusiv exprimari gandite in romana, zise cu cuvine englezesti. Nu vreau sa fiu rau, dar s-ar putea sa te ajute/impulsioneze sa-ti imbunatatesti engleza daca vrei sa faci un ban pe directia yt (eventual poti sa-ti faci un nume cu filme in romana si sa continui mai apoi si cu filme in engleza; na, e doar o idee...)

2. Desi imi place mult ca filmele sunt scurte, deci aflu mai repede niste chestii, in unele cazuri/subiecte ar trebui sa intri macar un picut mai adanc.


Nu am dat subscribe, mi se pare o nasolie pt privacy, dar o sa-ti mai vizitez filmele cand si cand. Bafta!


PS. Cum am raspuns asa tarziu, asta serveste si ca un fel de "up"  Wink
7505  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Ati jucat jocuri pe blockchain ? Gen cryptokitties , cryptodozer , etc etc on: March 08, 2021, 08:20:20 PM
S-ar putea sa ai cam mult de cautat. Ca pe aici nu-s asa multe persoane care scriu; desi poate sunt care citesc si inca nu au facut cont (speranta moare ultima).
Din pacate nici eu nu te pot ajuta. Cryptokitties mi-a atras initial atentia, dar cum facuse ca tx fee pe ETH sa urce pana la cer, am zis pas. Mai apoin nu m-a mai atras ideea sa incerc sa inteleg jocul pe banii mei, mai ales dupa ce am ratat cu mult startul.
7506  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does BITCOIN make a person's life better !? on: March 08, 2021, 02:25:57 PM
If you look thoroughly, then BITCOIN is just money,

It's money and also an investment vehicle.

but like money, can it improve the world around, and humanity as a whole !?

It depends on may factors. Does Japan Yen make life better? Not at all, I couldn't care less about it.

On the other hand, Bitcoin is great because if you work for it, you'll receive in your own wallet, without knowing or caring about banking days or conversion rate/fees between employer's home currency and yours; it can be kept for long time in the wallet and, if you are careful, nobody else can touch it. So it's the best money over the internet.

Also instead of being touched by inflation (government's way to steal money), it's finite supply and its price even rises greatly over time (if you have enough patience).

I don’t think “good” and “BITCOIN” are the same thing, most likely the opposite.

It can be bad too.
If you don't afford to keep it for longer, the fees you pay for the services to convert to your home currency may make it not worth the hassle.

Because of money, a person becomes weaker, he does not need to do something, to develop, because money will do it for him.

This is weak propaganda.
Go into the forest, live without money, become strong. But if you get injured, don't come and ask for help from the medical system people are paying for.
Go into the wild, live without money, become strong. But if a bad year comes (insufficient rain, or even fire, for example) and you don't find enough food, don't start begging for money...

All in all, money is a tool. You can use it wisely or not. Same goes for a knife too, for example.
7507  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: 4 Unconfirmed transactions ( more than 30 days now ) - Help needed :-[ on: March 08, 2021, 11:53:40 AM
I'll ask you try again, but this time, at the step after entering the seed, please do "detect existing accounts".
It may find your addresses since it should do directly the same thing as that tool BitMaxz has told us about.

Maybe you remember if this was your account 2 or more on Ledger? Since those may use different derivation path (m'/49'/0'/1' , m'/49'/0'/2' , ...) as somebody said on reddit. If Electrum didn't find your addresses, you can try with m'/49'/0'/1'
7508  Economy / Economics / Re: Central banks around the world want to get into digital currencies on: March 08, 2021, 11:25:42 AM
All they want is to issue their own version of stable coins.
This would allow them the ultimate control over money, from KYC and following all the transactions to seizing the funds they want at will.
This is completely centralized and very far from Bitcoin's paradigm.

All in all, don't be too happy about those news...
7509  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: 4 Unconfirmed transactions ( more than 30 days now ) - Help needed :-[ on: March 08, 2021, 11:14:33 AM
I got 'false' but I can confirm the seed I imported is ledger's and I've selected "p2sh-segwit (p2wpkh-p2sh)".

If you recovered the wallet in Electrum directly from the seed, then you didn't answer to a very important question, I'll re-post it.

Have you ticked "BIP39 seed" in the 'options' under the seed? Yes?

It's important that you've checked that checkbox. See the step4 from here, the Options button.
7510  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: 4 Unconfirmed transactions ( more than 30 days now ) - Help needed :-[ on: March 08, 2021, 10:46:56 AM
I think I did it correctly

It should be easy to check. Go to Electrum console and try something like

Code:
ismine("3D5nHpWQekEgWPLy7Yd4A6whb2vv61ZpvK")

I've got the address from your first RBF tx.
If the answer is yes, you did right. If it's no, you may be missing something.
7511  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can Lightning Network Hubs be owned by banks? on: March 08, 2021, 08:41:53 AM
1. Is it true and may the banks start owning hubs?

Yes, it's very possible.
I don't know LN very well, but it has occurred to me that banks and other institutions may actually set low or no fee to route as many transactions as possible and analyze them.
User info may bring them more money (in a way or another) than the fees you'd save.

It really surprises me that Exchanges (such as Coinbase and Kraken) don't set up LN and strongly encourage their customers to receive most of their withdrawals in the form of a LN channel.  Wouldn't that effectively turn the exchange into a hub?

That's probably (in) the future. But since they are leading exchanges, they won't lose easily their chance to become hubs. And until then - as late as possible - they can still ask for hefty withdrawal fees to discourage people from moving their money out.
I think that only strong (and many) voices from the community and their customers could make them change their current practices.
7512  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Cloud Mining Revamped on: March 08, 2021, 06:31:39 AM
Actually, that's a good idea but I still think that I need something to encourage people to the platform.

And you think that if you falsely name that cloud mining, it would work out?

Your business model is more or less used by many faucets.
The only differences are that (I think that) they pay less than 1 cent/dip. But they do fund themselves from advertising.
Some do bonus the people with money kept there, but it's some percents/day on the amount and not related to ads.

All in all, it's a PPC/ad-visiting business model. At cloud mining one buys hash power and doesn't have to visit the website to be earning.
You better go the freebitco.in faucet, maybe go to firefaucet.win, see their different way to handle ads and you can adjust your business model.
7513  Economy / Economics / Re: Why not "COVID" vaccine passports on a blockchain ID on: March 07, 2021, 12:11:56 PM
It is completely different. For example, if I have been vaccinated by a health official, I will be given the credential about it (and remain to me alone), and also be validated on the decentralized ledger which can be verified through a form that will be given me with a specific cryptographic key which will serves as prove. The form with the specific cryptographic key key will be used to verify if truly I am recorded on the blockchain as one of the people that has been vaccinated. If I want to manipulate in this case, before I can manipulate anything, I will have to make a deal with a health official that do vaccinate people to help me validate a form with a cryptographic key on blockchain. Without this, no way to manipulate, but not compared to physical documents that I can make the fake ones from anywhere which is a lot easier.

1. The ledger will clearly not be decentralized (who would store and mine that and for what incentive?!). That's why it's not better than an ordinary database (it's actually worse).
2. If needed the API that accesses the DB can give you whatever keys and proof they implement, from something basic to cryptographic keys too.
3. I was referring to crooked officials manipulating the data. Either a DB entry is altered or added, either a blockchain entry (unalterable) is added, somebody will get a fake "passport".

All in all, while blockchain is - in theory - not changeable (depends on implementation though, it can be done bad too), as long as somebody can add new records it's not really better than a DB. Also since it's not decentralized, also a hacker can do deeper change (double spend), but indeed, that's more difficult. And since it's cheap to just add a new record, it doesn't make sense to hassle.
So I don't see a real advantage of the (again, centralized) blockchain for this use case.

This is a way our credentials (data) can be safe, it will remain with us than on a third party database, only the form will be on blockchain which has no credential of us. Unlike physical credentials in which blockchain is not used, there must be a database for collecting our vaccination data report. And the positive thing about this is that, it is the method suggested to be used, which will help protect peoples data from third party, although, still at its earliest age.

You know that databases can also be encrypted, right? You know that whoever can access the software creating the blockchain can also read/understand the info, so it's not a difference from the DB, right?
7514  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Best wallet on: March 07, 2021, 11:58:18 AM
Who has the best wallet and why? Secure, trusting,easy to use etc...

The most trusted wallet is the official wallet. Bitcoin Core. Just it needs bandwidth, 350+GB of disk space (if not pruned) and time for the initial download.
Electrum is one of the SPV (simple payment verification) wallets which synchronized in seconds and has a lot of features. You'll have to make sure you download if from Electrum.org and verify it.
In order to minimize the chances to get your funds stolen, a hardware wallet can also be used.

Keep in mind that a wallet doesn't hold your coins, it's only a tool that allows you spend them. You have to keep safe the seed, private key and wallet file since else anybody else can spend your funds.


I use a hardware wallet together with Electrum on desktop and together with Mycelium on Android.
7515  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Market price on: March 07, 2021, 11:50:48 AM
at or below market prices?

The market price is basically an average of all the buy and sell prices. This means that if you buy at an exchange with really high daily volume you'll basically buy at a price very-very close to "market price" (you can say that you've bought at market price). The only problem is that you may have to also pay various fees (especially at centralized exchanges).
So, as already said P2P platforms may be your best choice.

Of course, you may find sellers on the forum too, but you'll have to be careful (not all are honest) and you'll have to also offer non-reversible payment (since you are new and nobody knows you). In this case you'd probably have to tell clearly the amount you are interested in, method of payment, maybe website of choice to decide the price and... use the Currency Exchange subforum (as also said).
7516  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: miners rewards & fees on: March 07, 2021, 09:55:05 AM
1. Which of those nodes make decision if block is a winner?
In the event that there are two or more competing blocks at the same height, the chain which gets lengthened first will win while the others will be discarded.

Actually some nodes will probably have one new block and others will have another. And neither is really discarded until another block is mined. Only then the longest chain wins and the other one is discarded.

If two nodes broadcast different versions of the next block simultaneously, some nodes may receive one or the other first. In that case, they work on the first one they received, but save the other branch in case it becomes longer. The tie will be broken when the next proofof-work is found and one branch becomes longer; the nodes that were working on the other branch will then switch to the longer one.

PS: OP, Bitcoin white paper is only 8 pages to be read (+1 page of references); it's not so difficult and can answer to many important questions.
7517  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where does Elon and Saylor store their bitcoins? on: March 06, 2021, 04:17:27 PM
This is exactly the part I don't like in Bitcoin: why is everybody so curious about that happens inside this or that person's pocket?!

I may be wrong, but I think this is about people wondering if they really own what they bought, or if they are among those who don't understand what "not your keys, not your coins" means. Seen from our perspective, they don't really own anything in that case - just a promise that something is somewhere.

A company like this, especially since it's not into Bitcoin, cannot afford to handle lightly such huge amounts of funds.
I expect them use 3rd party that help them handle everything and possibly that 3rd party either provides full custody, either keeps has at least one of the multi-sig keys involved. And I expect that 3rd party does all the actual handling (transactions) and possibly employing yet another company to provide insurance.
And, in order to avoid too many curious eyes, probably the addresses will remain private and the companies hired for independent review will sign strong NDAs.


Of course, that's what I'd do. Are Grayscale wallets known? (I expect they're not, but again, maybe my assumptions are wrong).
7518  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: When will we need to add more 0s or is it planned to keep it on a 2nd layer? on: March 06, 2021, 03:44:12 PM
When the price for a Bitcoin is 1 Mio USD we still can keep the 1 Sat= 1 USD cent, but since fees are calculated in sat/b, fees will get absurdily high or am I wrong here?

Your calculation sounds about right. But.. well, the miners have to earn something too. And it would be normal that at the point 1 BTC = $1M LN would be properly up & running & widely used. Yes, this means that although we'd love the high price, it may not come that early.
The point is that yes, at some point the fees will become prohibitive, but at that point one would no longer use on-chain transactions for withdrawing from faucets and buying a coffee.
7519  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How to verify btc transactio signature with site like https://tools.qz.sg ? on: March 06, 2021, 02:56:02 PM
can someone make a screenshot with info and data what I need paste to form on https://tools.qz.sg for verify signature ?

You may have misunderstood what that tool is doing.
It verifies if a message was correctly signed from a certain address.
However, I took my staked address from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg53182208#msg53182208
And verified it:

7520  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: most amazing picture I have ever seen on: March 06, 2021, 02:32:11 PM
This is the most amazing picture I have ever seen. How beautifully elaborated all major mistakes within few words

Since it's not you who has made this picture, I strongly recommend you add the source.
It looks to be from Binance, I don't know if it's the website or the twitter or whatever.

...And get used to always post the source of whatever you copy from others.
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