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7501  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: December 26, 2016, 09:34:01 AM
My fave right now is bitvest for dice.
Its really fast, 1% dice with up to 999x speed allowed.

Currently been chasing 99.995 for the 19800x multiplier ive hit it a few times now im chasing it with 1k bets.

Good luck to you for hitting your target. But I suggest don't chase anything in gambling because you may lose a lot of money in that process. Gambling should be for entertainment purpose and shouldn't use it to earn fast and easy money. I never put any target while gambling but always play with some fixed amount and if I lose then I will stop gambling for that day.
Your method sounds good for you but honestly, it would not help you in the long run, you can make autobets but it's the same as you outcome it will happen even if you are too lucky, you will still lose. Why not just bet for limited rolls, it's more justifiable when you are lucky and at the same time you will not be wasting time to stare your computer, just my opinion anyway.
7502  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: December 26, 2016, 08:00:47 AM
Yes, it's a good way to make money but there are better ways through trading but I'm assuming a lot of people don't want to spend the extra time learning all about trading so if that applies to you then you better buy bitcoins, hold on to it with the hope of its price rising and then selling back for more money.
yes i also like long term investment, but to me i think if you are going for long term investment you still need to keep eye on our investment regularly, as you should also study bitcoin from time to time and should keep information about bitcoin with you .
Trading is can be risky you can. You can lost or earn It's like gambling but if you hold the bitcoin it is consider a long term investment because the bitcoin is growing and growing, If everyone will know the bitcoin the bitcoin price will go up. so I think holding your bitcoin for a long time is the smartest and no risk of earning.
But the thing is no one knows what will happen in the future, therefore it's risky because we are only speculating on the possible price in the future and we put money hat we can afford to lose. I think we just have to be faithful with bitcoin and believe it will bring us profit in the near future, some people having a success with investing in bitcoin, so definitely we can also have that.
7503  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 26, 2016, 07:42:14 AM
Warriors were leading by 14 with 7 mins to go and the odds on GSW were 1.01 but still cavs managed to win it. the odds on cavs were 15x at that time. I should have bent on cavs then. Would have made good money out of it. GSW somehow manage to flop in the final qtr and Kyrie again with the winning shot. Good game on the whole but it was Warriors game to lose as they lead pretty much the whole match.

yes, i agree with you, Warriors were leading hole game, but The King is King and no one can stop him, also old school is making his big roll, R. Jefferson find his game in last quarter and his Strong dunks was very impotent and at last, Kyrie has made his winning shot and everything was over for Warriors.

CLE are the best today...
They definitely figured out how to beat the warriors anyway, let's expect that when this two will face in the finals, it would be easy for the cavaliers to win in 6 or 5 games maybe, Durant is not a big factor IMO as his defense is not good enough with Lebron almost making all the possible shots.

You can't beat confidence and this underdog team will always bite like they did before.

Have you watched Klay Thompson's interview after the game? He said that game was just a gift to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

That's why I'm losing my salute to him now and without KD for sure they will not going to be even with that close fight to the Cavs.

Klay is such a boner, he doesn't accept defeat and not making himself a true athlete.


That will only make the cavaliers to be inspired more as the win that they have is not really impressive, let's not forget also that Lebron said in the past when they were beaten by the warriors in the NBA Finals that he is the greatest player in the world, he just insulted MJ that time.
7504  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: December 26, 2016, 07:25:08 AM
Bitcoin is becoming stronger every day. More and more people will know about it. And for those who use Bitcoin he has already become an international currency.
bitcoin users increases, more users will become increasingly powerful. I am very happy because bitcoin continues to spread all over the world and certainly bitcoin will become increasingly popular and it certainly will be increasingly used by many people in the world

That's a sure thing to for the next year to come. Because of bitcoins ability to keep on pumping many are getting attracted to it and able to adopt it immediately.

And as long as here we are who are supporting bitcoin and keep on using it the chances of making it as our global currency is very high.
With a very good price movement, we can attract many to adopt but assume that most of them are investors, what we need is also a spender and hopefully in the years to come, there will be more online businesses that will accept bitcoin so there will be a real increase of demand.
7505  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: December 26, 2016, 07:11:10 AM
With our way to gamble for fun, it will certainly help us to enjoy and last in gambling. It's definitely a matured way of thinking towards gambling because we know for the fact that it's hard to win when we are too focus of the profit, and accepting the reality will help us not to be possible addicted.

Whats the point of gamble then if you think that the excitement of gamble is to have fun with it rather than winning in gambling? I seriously dont see any fun in it if I dont win anything however that kind of thing doesnt actually make me addicted to it and obviously Im having fun when I could win in the site
That's how gamblers think that that's what they want, winning will always make us enjoy in gambling but most of the time we loses. If we cannot enjoy and accept the reality that we will still lose despite of the effort we are making, then maybe it's good to quit and look for another activity to do.
7506  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: December 26, 2016, 07:05:44 AM
If u want to make profit through bitcoins keep it in a cold storage which is more beneficial .otherwise u can invest them in startups and other small enterprises and own 10 percent of the company which is very useful and profitable.
What you are talking is a way to safeguard our bitcoins, and true by holding it a longer time it can give us a big profit when the value of bitcoin will continue to grow. An investor must be optimistic enough to be able to hold longer and eventually to be able to make profit as what we are hoping to realize.
7507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 26, 2016, 06:44:50 AM
Worst mistake in gambling is gambling lool

No it isn't, we are the ones who are making gambling as a worst mistake but simply not being a responsible gambler. But because we think that gambling is going to be the source of income is that the worst thing that we are always thinking. And upon having a lot of lose then the blame will always goes to gambling but not to ourselves.
It won't work if you even consider gambling as not source of income.
Slowly but sure gambling drive you to something that actually you don't want, yeaaa an addiction.
Gambling is addictive, if you have no idea to handle gambling in right way it will always be a big mistake IMHO.

Gambling is a mistake and something that shouldnt be done in the first hand however some people actually win in gambling and make it as their source of income . It might seems fake however it is actually true and it only happens to few people and for some people it doesnt happen and it feels like gambling is already a mistake
No it's not, the only mistake is when we are not being responsible in gambling, when we put money that we cannot afford to lose anymore. I guess we have to be responsible enough to appreciate gambling, if we cannot do that then we are not allowed to gamble. It will not bring good results in our life, so we better not try it.
7508  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 24, 2016, 08:30:32 AM
Many people who experience problems when gambling, this is because they can not control when gambling. When winning, they will wager all money owned but lost, so poor. We must can control and have smart calculation when gambling.
you are right. may be the source of problems in gambling is that they can not control themselves when gambling. Well, I also sometimes like it. many of the problems I had to face, such as running out of money, stress, and sometimes do not want to stop playing. maybe it's all because I was not able to control myself.

The problem that are coming out came from the gamblers and not gambling itself. Gambling is just an instrument to give us entertainment and some chance of winning.

But if those people who are gambling will mostly abuse it, then that's how the problem will come out.
Abusing in gambling is just like abusing ourselves, there are basic principles in gambling which are only bet what you can afford to lose and always be smart not to fall from your emotion in gambling. If you cannot follow that then gambling is just simply not for you, go look for other forms of entertainment or a money making activities.
7509  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: December 24, 2016, 08:20:35 AM
You can't tell when your luck comes to you until you figure it out by your self by playing gambling all the time or every other day if you win straight without loosing big amount of money and winning big profits then you can tell that luck is on your side and all your prediction are accurate on what the graph show.

Are we obliged to trust luck.?? . For if I see, that gambling is not just in need of a luck or count on it. Since gambling is not just luck that give you an advantage, but also a strategy and self-control is something most major thing for us to do. Because it is luck that will not come to those who play in a very sloppy and stupid!!. So we want to make a profit then it should be able to have a strategy and also can control yourself
Where stupid if we will oblige ourselves to trust luck, how can we ever win with that kind of mentality, luck does help us in tough situation but we cannot expect to be lucky all the time. Thinking outside the box would help us grow in gambling and that does not involve thinking of our luck to lead us a long term win.
7510  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: December 24, 2016, 08:15:17 AM
Bitcoin is money and looking under this concept we must use it as fiat money. So even though there are not many places we can buy or sell goods or for many of us buy or selling services I try to use it. In this way there is not a constant amount in my wallet and now is only 0.0254 Btc.
I suggest you also save and not just spend your bitcoins, don't lose the opportunity mate, there's more room for bitcoin to grow in the future and if you start saving now, you might see the value of your money grow bigger than what you expected. So far, in my many years of investing, I have never been as profitable as this, the price just double this year and still rising.
7511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: December 24, 2016, 08:06:25 AM
And it is more fun because you just click again and again whether you lose or not as long as you have balance in your wallet. It is also fun to see on how much are the other dicers are winning. Another factor that dice makes me happy also is when I see some gamblers who are winning big amount and I hope that it will happen to me also.
Yeah even if you lost and your sad. When you see someone who is winning big. Theres something in your part that makes you happy and keeps you on believing that someday you will win like them.
There are different kinds of persons, some are very envious and bitter and if they see something good happening to you they will not be happy at all instead they will be mad because they were not the lucky ones to win big.
Well to look at it that way, i see you have a point. I guess it's just about people's preferences and what makes them happy. I agree with what you've said here that people are different and that if dice doesn't sound appealing to me and a bit boring, poker and baccarat may be the same for other people. It's just about knowing what you want and enjoying what your interests are
I believe we are unique individual and we have our own favorite games in gambling, dice is a very simple game to play and that's why even minors can play it for fun, in my case it's different because no one can stop me of liking all games, lol.

Personally, I like sports betting and that is because I am an athlete and I have a passion in sports, I believe that I will be rich in sports betting someday.
7512  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: December 24, 2016, 07:48:47 AM
i like the fast transaction of bitcoin and i can transfer my bitcoin to anywhere in the world and we know that bitcoin is in our control and we can keep our bitcoin in any wallet and in any amount and sometime i feel that my balance in my control into bitcoin.
to me as i am a good gambling, therefore to me i think the most good thing is that i can play gambling using bitcoin, as it as too much advantage of using bitcoin for gambling and especially in online gambling.
of course because of the nature of bitcoin that is anonymous, its can make you very free to do gambling, although in your country gambling was banned but you can do gambling using bitcoin with very easy and safe
What made a great contribution for bitcoin actually is the gambling industry, people are coming in to gamble and we know gamblers does not win all the time and even most of the time, it's the house ability to do it. Hence, it creates a big demand of bitcoin because gamblers does not really stop easily, the fact that we can transfer our money fast, it really gives us a chance to gamble anytime we want, and the more we gamble the more they are profitable.
7513  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: December 23, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
I know it isn't an investment, but in the last few years some "high risk" investment funds have appeared, and in them you can either lose it all or earn a lot of money.

Isn't this basically the same as gambling? Wouldn't it be faster to just deposit the amount in a casino? At least you'd be able to spend your earnings much sooner Cheesy

Yes and no.Real investing is about  lowering the risk with diversifying the accets.

Never keep all your eggs in one backet.

Real gambling is about waiting for the right time to play your cards and playing all in... 
There's still no big difference with whatever method you are using, you can do all in or not, in the end you still rely on your luck, without luck you can never win despite of the hard work you will do. Considering it as an investment is a hard thing to do, but it's possible and doable if you have passion in gambling, with that you have to win most of the time so your winning rate will increase and you will be profitable.
7514  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 23, 2016, 08:23:38 AM
Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes
i think gambling is just game , we need skill and trick to play
playing in gambling is bet your money , this is mean we can get more money from it or dissapear all money because it
Probably you will lose if you are not lucky but if you are then you win, it's that simple, no other factors to consider as in gambling, our chances are always lower than the house. Having said that, it is just right to only put what we can afford to lose, that is to minimize our loses and to ensure we will not financially be affected with our loses every time bad luck comes.
7515  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 21, 2016, 04:53:06 AM
The best way for a steady income, especially when it comes to Bitcoin, is to probably join a signature campaign and always cap out whatever the maximum number of posts a day/week/month is, that way you get a relatively simple and consistent income directly in Bitcoin. Now that doesn't fit your criteria of not doing anything, so that's out of the question.

One potential idea is investing in a casino bankroll and get paid that way. I haven't done it in the past but with enough research I think you'd probably have a good idea of how it would all work.
Gambling is too risky, although it returns high, but the risk is big. I personally do not recommend gambling, to participate in a signature campaign is a good choice.
That's a normal thing in gambling, the risk is high so as the rewards. Wen you decide to consider gambling as your way to steady income then you have to prepare for the possible negative outcome also, you must know all the possibilities so you will be able to analyze and justify your move, and just like a business, you must set a good amount of capital and an experimental period to determine if it's profitable for you or not.
7516  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: December 21, 2016, 04:08:00 AM
The idea of the bitcoin bank may not be very appealing for most people here because most people here are not idiots that don't know how to deal and hold their own bitcoin, but outside of internet forums most people are clueless and they will like the idea of other third party managing their money and not having to stress about losing your private keys because you forget the password or something like that, so yes i think there is still a strong niche for that bankster idea on bitcoin.

If we are to face the facts, you can't actually claim that all these millions of people who are using web wallets (for whatever reason) are idiots since a Bitcoin bank is essentially an advanced version of a web wallet. It would be basically along the same lines as claiming that the majority of people are idiots overall. But they can't be idiots by definition. In this way, I can't possibly see why the idea of Bitcoin bank may not be very appealing to bitcoiners at large. This idea may be even disgustful to you personally, but that doesn't mean that you can speak on behalf of all Bitcoin users...

In fact, the minority is always more vocal than the majority in any field

I do understand your point of view, but i doubt anyone here is really interested into a bank of bitcoins, besides the wallets that allow us to have plenty control of our coins, making us our own banks.
That's true, some web wallets are just like this, (like coinbase), as they required to send their users their personal information just what all banks is, instead bitcoin can do transaction without this personal information so whats the point why bitcoin bank can be created it simply destroy the anonymity of the coin. 
It defeats the purpose on why we are using bitcoin, why we love bitcoin is because of it's anonymity and once there's a bank, there would be a Know your Client policy that will be integrated in the system and I guess majority of us will not be happy with that and will end up not supporting a bitcoin bank.
7517  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: December 20, 2016, 07:45:33 AM
Gambling- Investment HAHAHA
 Grin Grin Grin

Hahaha I thought the same thing its more like charitable donations to those who already have a shit load of cash. The cows that just keep giving huh?
It's like that to you because you are not enjoying gambling, but for us people who manage to enjoyed ourselves despite losing an amount in gambling, we do not consider it as we are wasting money, the fun or the entertainment that you get is worth for the money you spend, and you can only feel that if you are purely gambling for fun and not for money.
7518  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: December 20, 2016, 05:56:59 AM
well i gamble for profit, i don't think that gambling is very fun when you lose

It depends on how much you lose.  People who are enjoying gambling are only playing with the money that is free.  Meaning it is not tied to any expenses like households budget or bill payments.  Instead of watching movies, going out with a friend or spending money on an outing, people play gambling for fun.  Their mindset while playing in a Casino is the same as spending money for entertainment.  So they don't mind whether they lose or win since it is actually a budget for entertainment.
there is people like that honestly rich people are same that they are gamble and not thinking about their lose because they are just gamble for fun.. they can afford what their lose ..and for poor people they are targeting to earn and both entertainment or the other are just targeting profit..
If you win in gambling for me like i said and other it is good to spend your winning profit with your friends and family..
I really hope all gamblers can play gambling for fun, however it cannot be because we do have different financial standing in life. Rich has the privilege to enjoy their money because they work hard to reach that level and they are just spending a little portion of their money to be entertain.

While poor people, are seeking for miracle to win in gambling and hoping their luck could change their world.
7519  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: December 20, 2016, 05:49:54 AM
actually we don't need to have a bank for bitcoin because we already have a banks to ourselves which is our personal wallets we don't need anything to manage and secure our finances in bitcoin and it is much better to do it on our own because we don't need to consider a service fee of that bitcoin bank .

You're absolutely right, but the main intention of people liking the idea of a so called Bitcoin bank is more the financial gain aspect in form of interest over the coins that they store there. Bitcoin offers people the ability to be their own bank and avoid dealing with third party services, but people are easily putting that fantastic benefit away just in return for a shitty interest rate. It's insane to have another entity to control your coins for a full year in return for just a 2-3% interest rate. Even if it was 10%, I still wouldn't store my coins there.
I am always preaching about the benefits of being your own bank and as far as i can tell people do not want to deal with it. It seems like they do not want to be bothered with their own money and this is not because they have so much of it. Maybe they would think different if they had almost non and would go hungry, but it sometimes looks like they still would prefer to pay someone a fee and accept it as necessary.

actually there's also a good side behind this bitcoin bank they can also give you a very secured service for your finances and 1referee is right there will be some people who liked this idea because their intention is to gain from the interests but for sure it will only go to the service fee and the transaction fees .
There's a similar way where we earn interest without investing in bank, the action simply suggest to buy bitcoins and just hold it. Bitcoin nowadays, are very progressive, so when you are just holding you can expect a profit once the price increases and that will give you more interest than a bank can offer.
7520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 20, 2016, 01:49:57 AM
Something interesting and safe to bet for today?
Lost some money in the last few days,so wanna earn it back lol hah  Grin
Just hit me up with something cool..

Thank you masters!

Maybe Timberwolves halftime moneyline?

They have the bad habit of collapsing in the second half, so moneyline is not as safe, but Phoenix is really bad and I think they will win anyway
They are leading now going to 2nd half and the trend continues because Timberwolves are really a good 1st half team, the problem is Suns are getting closer so in the 2nd half it would be easy for the Suns to rally. I like the Suns here Monely, even if they are down at maybe 10 in the half.

What are your thoughts guys?
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