that does not solve the problem of how other members see my profile  "the main point of discussion".

assuming just to "explain my point" you were now going to give me a negative trust say for " The way i am debating with you", and then the signature campaign i am in " am not in any just assuming still" kick me out of that campaign. what will be the use of my OWN trust list?

the fact that you are by default on EVERYBODY's trust list is the reason why you need to have a few rules to follow, as your opinion reflects on everybody else eyes and not only yours.


* i am referring to "you" just for the simplicity of speech, but what i mean is DT members is general and not related to you as a person.















 

the control is already in the moderators hand, if someone can ban accounts then it's not the best argument to say that putting them in control is not an improvement. since we can not have voting , elections or anything of that kind then moderators must have control. in fact someone with the power to ban accounts can ban a DT member right now for no reason so we are not actually giving the mods any sort of extra power. and even if we were to assume so, i personally rather see a moderated trust system than a random trust system, at that point the majority of the feedback will make sense to the majority of people.



"The variety of opinions" is the root of the problem. you can not have a "The variety of opinions" in a trust system. especially that DT member's tag is the THIN LINE between a usable account and a non-usable account[1].

[1] -almost every signature campaign states that if you have a negative trust  you can't join.
      -the majority of people  will not be willing to trade with someone who has negative trust from a DT member

I mean look at the contradiction of DT feedbacks on the same members, this would have not happen if the rules are there.
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I do not agree with the merit part, it will be impossible to monitor , plus i totally disagree with your theory of that the top merited people got their merits from each other "at least this is what i understood" even if that was to be true, this can simply be due to the fact they actually deserved it? also if you look at most DT members merit score, is just an average, except for a few like suchmoon  whom i am totally against his/her way of describing the use of the trust system, i honestly think he/she deserves all the merit it due to the quality of his/her posts.

so please don't take this off-topic. merits are a whole different thing. we are talking only about trust system only here.

you need 30321 * 168,408,013 to solve the a block at current difficulty. so not even close, but not bad at all from a 900gh.

current difficulty according to bitcoinwisdom.com = 5,106,422,924,659 , so your share needs to => than that.

but it changes every aprox 14 days, so you check it on the website from time to time.

good luck.

The fact it it keeps restarting i am thinking you have accidentally deleted or added a wrong character,  also you have not mentioned whether you are no able to access it "before it restarts" with either new or the old port.

who is enforcing all the other rules on the forum now ? who does the ban/unban any other types of things? rules will be enforced by the same people/person.  

if someone can get you banned then you shouldn't worry if they will abuse this one set of rules, for all we know theymos can ban the whole forum and he is not obligated to even explain why. so there has to be some sort of authority to handle the rules.

once those rules are set, DT members will have to follow the rules, and once they don't which will be rare then even theyoms can attend to that. it will not be an every minute job as we only have a handful of feedbacks that could be considered as a break of rules.

this mainly because the DT1 members have no rules to based their judgment on, they will have to do a lot of reading and waste a lot of time to verify if it should be treated as abuse or not.

but if we have a list of rules, the complaint will be easy to read.

DT member XYZ broke rule 15 by giving me a negative trust after i posted a picture of my naked ass.

rules no 15 : you can not tag a person just for showing their ass on the forum.


DT memeber get's warned or unlisted or whatever the rules state.

but if we have to count on each person's own logic. do you think posting an image of someone's ass is offensive and requires a tag ? well AFAIK they could get a positive feedback  for that and it will still be valid as long as the rules don't say the opposite.

now of course that is just an example, rules don't have to carry that much of details  .

I do not understand why some people are now talking about an alternative method to the trust system? this is not the main point of my topic, the  forum is differently better with it "despite it's weakness" than without it.

what I am proposing here is a clear definition about the use case of the trust system.

as long as there is not a single rule that says  for an example " you can not tag someone because their username is funny" then if someone tags someone else for their funny username , then honestly they are not breaking any rules since non is stated in the first place !.

i also might have screwed up when i used the word "regulate" , excuse my mandarin   . i am not saying the trust system should be controlled by the mods as this will most likely make it worse, i am saying we need a set of rules, so when someone is not satisfied with the tag he gets, he can then complain or appeal based on an existing rule. it will be much easier to judge the case if we have such rules.

* this only applies to DT members as their feedback appears on the profile.

I do not think that any DT member is  abusing the the trust system on purpose, and that most of them are actually trying to "help" the forum but sometimes they go to extremes where they tag people for silly reasons that are far from fair. so regardless of the good intention there still some type of harm.

 
 looking at the amount of complaints from users on both Meta and Reputation boards, you get to see that many people are not happy with how the trust system or specially how DT members use it.

 I have randomly checked a few examples of how DT members use the trust system and to be honest for the most part of it, the tag had a valid reason behind it "scam", but on the other side i see a few cases where DT members give a negative trust for someone for the silliest reasons.

 The issue here is mainly because we have no obvious and clear set of rules that regulates the use of trust system.

 also given the fact that a negative trust from a DT member means no more signature campaigns and most likely no more trading activities, so ti does carry a lot of weight.

while I totally do not agree with @cryptohunter that there is an organized "gang" that abuses the trust system for own personal benefits  " or at least this is what i understood from his multiple posts"  , I do not think that there is any sort of gang what so ever, but I think every  DT member uses the trust system they way they "see fit" which in many case could be the "wrong"  even to other DT members, and you can clearly see in a few cases where DT memebers disagree to one another decision and counter it by giving a positive feedback.

and of course the same thing goes for positive feedback, i see some DT members giving positive feedback also for "silly" reasons too, and no body will ever admit that they way they use the trust system is wrong.

I personally do not think it is right to give a negative feedback for someone that is not a scammer no matter how much of an a**hole they are, this goes also for giving a positive feedback for someone just because you like them or because they have been "helpful".

This is a very important matter as a feedback from a DT member could be a "life changer" for someone who spent years building a good reputation only to get tagged for disagreeing to some DT member's point of view.

although i disagree with the most part of cryptohunter theory, but he has a valid point here


while i doubt it is as bad as he describes it, but it remains  valid as long as the use of the trust system is simply defined by everyone's own view.


here is what i think the trust system is meant to be used for


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so why don't we enforce some rules on the trust system to solve all this mess and live happily ever after ?

 I have that db as well, i want to make a report of ( received merit to post ration) which in the link you provided is not possible, since there is no way to know whether the merit was airdropped or received. and on this database the post count is not there. do you have any other db that contains both post count and received merit ? thanks

say TA is b.s   .

closed partial of my short position, moved SL to break even. currently at local support 3940$.  we could bounce from here, but am not going to open any longs just yet, will add more shorts if we break 3940.

just for fun ,generous members who gave newbies more than 10 merits.


@piggy , can you add post count to user table? thanks

for all we know > einsteineer is a newbie who might have done this intentionally to screw shadyrifles.

anyone can make a new account, copy paste anybody's shit and then accuse them for alt accounts.

 i can create a new account, post the white paper of bitcoin , come back again with this account and accuse satoshi for publishing the same white paper twice.

b.s aside, the full member posted this August 19, 2018, 12:45:17 AM while the newbie posted on December 16, 2018, 10:27:32 PM.

also i do not see why would a full member , apply for a translation with a newbie account ? makes 0 sense unless he is very stupid , since i doubt the translation shit has anything restrictions of that kind.  

here is an update of the current situation for those intraday traders > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071613.msg48868678#msg48868678

  

i closed every single long position for now. should have closed right at the resistance especially with that shooting star forming on the 4H, but i got greedy and closed at 4% less profit, but still with overall about 20% profit from the falling wedge which is not bad.

why did i close my long positions ?

1-we are approaching the 4500$ strong resistance (bitfinex)
2- BTC has formed a kind of a rising wedge which if we break, we will dip to possibly 3750$
3- Bearish divergence and exhausted bulls starting to show on the trend.

what am i going to do next?

1- short the market if we break the wedge " SL will be a close above the breaking candle.

TP will be 3940, 3770   or manual close should any bullish signal appear on the chart.

2- il long the market if we the 4h candle break above the red resistance and close above, it will be safe to buy with SL being a candle close below the resistance which will then act as a support.

TP will be 4800, 5400 or a manual close if things go south.

*tho i doubt scenario 2 is going to happen, but if it does, we gotta take some very nice profit because the run will be quick.

الايتيريوم ايضا يتم استعمالها تقريبا من اكتر من 80 في العملات مبنية على بلوكتشين الايتيريوم..لكن الاقرب لانتعاش اكتر هيا الربل..عملة الريبل عليها منافسة قوية من ايوس..وايضا بحكم عملات الايكو الجديدة والتي اكتشفت معظم الناس ان اغلبها عمليات للنصب بدلك نقصت شعبية الايتيريوم..

اما من حيت ارتفاع السعر فا انصح بالتوزيع في الاستتمار..لاتضع البيض كله في سلة واحدة..

بالتوفيق

sorry i can't reply to everything, but i do not understand what do you mean by other people being afraid to speak up? afraid of what? being tagged by DT members? i assume that non of the DT members is stupid to enough to abuse that system in such an obvious way that everyone and their grandmother can see, if 10 people commented on your topic now and said the same things you are saying about the "gang" who will have the balls to abuse the system to that extent by tagging everyone who says anything about them?  

one negative trust and you started a whole topic and the DT member had no choice but to take it away, imagine he gives 10 negatives and the whole Meta board turns to a serial of topics against him. i bet the horse he will be in deep in shit.

now the only thing anyone can do including the "gang" is to try and fight you back without using the "power" at their disposal. by maybe finding a plagiarism or a scam  accusation against you, and that is their legal right to defend themselves and all the tools at their disposal are nothing special, you will get the same sort of a fight-back from anyone or any "gang" regardless of their rank or merit for that matter.  unless they start giving you negatives, or accusing you for being a scam or something, then i see nothing wrong with anyone trying to defend themselves. and to be honest I think they are not that much into each other, but by fighting them all together at the same time , they might turn into a real "gang" this time for real  .




we can debate all night on this topic, but really neutral does not mean tagging someone thet you don't like. an example of trust feedback is:

1- positive > you had a successful trade/trades with this guy, you send them money first, they kept their end of the deal and sent the goods > trustful.
2- negative >  this person scammed you , by either not sending you the money/goods he promised to, or they arrived in bad shape > can't be trusted
3- neutral > they sent you the money first , you sent them the goods > ( they had no chance to scam you ) but this does not mean they are "trustful" thus a neutral represent that the person has done a successful trade without being in a position of gaining trust hence " ability to scam".

I am sure Theymos can confirm that this is the initial propose of the trust system. you see people with negative trust  " Warning: Trade with extreme caution! ". it does not say  "Warning: Interact with extreme caution!

if the trust system was meant to be the way the you think, then why theymos doesn't have it show across all parts of the forum? it is a pretty plain simple answer.

however,since people started to use the trust system as another way of measuring other members it started to sound normal for something tagging someone else for their ugly avatar.

as long as  there are no clear rules on how MUST the trust system be used for, then everybody will have their own "way" of using it.

These Hodl MOON boys will never understand what are you trying to explain them, I am done trying to educate anybody who is not willing to learn. let them sit there in the dark crying and asking when moon? when lambo? 

ok first thing first here is a link the contains 4 different firmware for D3, mixed between bitmain and blissz , try each and everyone of them

* please scan for virus before you download, just to be safe.
https://ufile.io/oxzkc

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if everything fails then as i mentioned you need to modify the current firmware on your miner to force it to allow you a different firmware.

you will need to use a ssh tool like putty.

type the ip address of the miner in putty , keep port 22

* if message pop up > click Yes

username :root
password:admin

then you will be inside the miner.

copy paste this line

    > hit enter

like this



then type this


you will get something like this


but yours will be different, there will be something like


you need to copy paste the code for me here to modify it, if you don't understand programming.

if you do, then it would be easy, just remove the IF statment.

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and if you speak russian you can visit the website > the solutation i am propsoing  is actually taken from this Russian website

https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/65678-%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F%D1%8F-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-antminer-l3-%D0%BE%D1%82-blissz/&page=5&tab=comments#comment-1703686

even if you don't understand russian, you can follow my directions and then look for the picture for the upgrade file, it's in english and could be exactly like yours, if it is, just follow the picture, if it is not, just paste the code here i will modifiy it for you.

also keep in mind the default upgrade file will be locked ,you cant modify, only view. you need to click 'I' to modify it.

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let us know how it goes.

I see ETFbitcoin being active and giving some merits on the mining board, also looked at a few random merits sent and I think he deserves to be a merit source, mainly due to his participation on the tech side of the forum. good luck

I have to disagree to your point, it's a valid reason for someone not to get merit for the quality or the actual content of their posts, English on the other hand is not a scale for post quality by any means. nobody is obligated to speak perfect English unless they are getting paid to do exactly that. Many of us here "including myself" speak a poor to average English, as long as one can deliver their point, that alone should be enough.