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7521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: March 06, 2017, 03:56:48 AM
You dont need so much to invest. Yolodice has a minimum of 0.01 btc and that is a decent amount to begin with. I reccomemd 0.1btc that will bring in a few dollars a month. That is a good return. Much better then these scams and you can see all the calculations used to calculate the way your investment return is made.



But I suggest don't invest in these casino bankrolls for every month sure profits because sometimes they do give losses and one need to wait for longer time to recover those lost money. But surely in the long run everyone can make decent profits. If you want to reduce your losses then don't invest all your money in any single site but invest in few good sites then your profit making chances will be higher.
chances of profits would really be higher when you do invest on multiple gambling sites which you could really make an advantage on this method. Be sure to invest huge amounts so that you would able to feel the returns on your investments.
7522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: March 06, 2017, 03:36:35 AM
If you don't want losing then stop gamble. I agree, gambling is not a solution in making money but only desperate of money can grab it without knowing that they are taking one the most risky investment online. Me too, I don't prioritize playing games with money involve even I have already earned a lot of coins.
Treating gambling as a source of income is really a bad idea because it cant guarantee you anytime to make money and we do know that most gamblers are lossers and this thing should be on our minds.In playing dice games profits would really depend on how lucky you are.
7523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: March 05, 2017, 05:31:04 AM
As said trading and gambling differ in various factors. One among them which make a greater difference is the investment requirement. With trading even big amount is required to make big money, but with gambling even a small earning gets you big profit if lucky.

It is not exactly right what you say, both has the chance of getting high profit even with low amount of fund. It depends on how you do it, some people are getting alot from trading while some rely on gambling therefore it is actually the same. In the end it is also luck based although some knowledge is useful in trading
They do have both similarities but i could say that trading is lot way better speaking on making money on longer runs that you cant get on gambling only.
Trading would be like gambling if you do trade without any idea on how to do it.
7524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In which bitcoin gambling casinos should i invest my bitcoins ? on: March 05, 2017, 05:17:30 AM
Hello there i want to invest some 0.2-0.3 btc in casinos or gambling sites.Please suggest me some sites where i can do this investement.
How much possible return i can get and how much is the risk.I am ready to take small risk involved.Any other suggestions for investement are also welcome. Smiley
I think here you can't make a big profit then a big loss .
Actually 0.2 to 0.3 BTC is a very small amount , But suppose you made investment in a casino site then you will get what ?? Nothing than a very small percentage of your actual profit of investment . Secondly risk is more to invest in a casino .. Because you can't get profit every time , So probably here investment in the casino site is like gambling with your Bitcoin .
So I will suggest you to keep himself away from the casino investment .
But if you want still invest  then I will suggest to invest in cryptogame , safe dice , moneypot etc these are most common which are accepting investment .
Its reallly a small amount to invest and even on gambling sites or casinos sites it doesnt make any difference. Actually putting up money on casino or gambling sites are good even though they promise small returns but still a good choice as long you have big amount of bitcoin to put.
7525  Economy / Services / Re: FORTUNEJACK - Earn up to 0.2BTC - NEW Signature Campaign - Weekly Payments on: March 05, 2017, 05:02:07 AM
Wahou, people are sure fast to react xD

Well Fortune Jack explained themselves, so I've deleted my post. Nor reason for me to leave the campaign any more.
As the list has remained still I guess there is no need to change anything. In doubt I've PMed the manager of course.

Cheers.

Lol. You are just afraid to lose a passive income that's why you just ate again your word. But no doubts it is the best thing to do. Good job! This is a very painful post for those who apply immediately after that issue. Hahaha.
Then why did I say I would leave the campaign in the first place?
Maybe I "ate my word again" simply because contrary to betcoin.ag Fortune Jack gave simple and complete explanations on there official thread. I just don't want to promote a scamming company once again.
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If applicants are persistent on applying to this campaign. Why does you didn't complain all the participants that listed on SMAS list here. Hahaha. Goodluck
Didn't understand, you should check your English sir Wink

It was stated in the rules

"Additional Terms: No negative trust, NO other advertisements allowed, DON’T change a signature at any time. Users with alter account are not allowed to participate and will be disqualified."

You have left your post by changing your signature! You should be removed already. We all know you changed your signature to bitmixer! I call the signature manager to judge this case.
Agree on this one since its been stated on the rules of the campaign and if he did change his signature recently then its considered as violation/against the rules but well its the campaign manager decision if he will tolerate such act or not.


he also said that he doesn't trust fortunejack anymore so whats the catch for returning back to this campaign? for me i really think he's afraid to lose those 0.04 weekly pay since fortunejack has do some counteraction for their issue. for his negligence i think he deserves to be kick out to this campaign since he already delivered some words and remove his signature aswell.

rules must be rules and he must obey it,.
I think your right, He's afraid to loss 0.04BTC weekly and I know he knew for what He did was a careless decision. That's the biggest mistakes He made. Anyway, repentance always come at the last. And perhaps, He found out that applying in the signature campaign now is not that easy for s many participants are also looking for the legit and long term campaign.
Hes really afraid and he did make a bad move and saying non good things on Fj and now he ate those words again which he decide to join on other campaign because he wrongly believed that they will gone scam.Seriously? but well we cant judge since we are just also members on this forum Smiley
7526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 04, 2017, 01:18:45 PM
Because i want to win in the game and get rich but sad to say it is a matter of luck and I will lost in the game. And it keeps me coming back because of the gravity. And the addiction way out so the matter that you know before as long as the addiction is going on you will always lost in a blink of an eye and that is the gambling industry.
I guess you better calm down man, that is a very dangerous purpose in gambling, becoming reach is a hard journey and the success rate is very low.
Once that is always in your mind, you could keep losing and become bankrupt in due time. Try to change your mindset about gambling because it is only for entertainment and not for source of income, unless you are the operator.

People need to realize this thing by their own that gambling is an activity that could cause people to be addicted for it. If someone could not even realize it then leave it aside as that kind of people is a fool. Even when we keep on losing, our common sense should keep us from going to lose even more

Most people dont have any common sense. Period

Majority of us run on our impulses and never think logically how the casino business works. If they understand that the casino owners and affiliates are the real profit-makers, they would still go to casinos and lose more money because of their greed.

Of course getting addicted is due to chasing losses and perks offered by casinos to senior players and sometimes giveaways and bonuses. People dont realize that these are marketing methods to draw cash from public and they keep on playing.

If we dont have any self-control, we should not gamble in the first place.

Most of the gamblers are blinded by their greed, they keep believe that they can beat the house everyday and become rich with gambling, the house already got a great system and expert to make sure that they got more chances to win your money, if you gambled and pay attention to the detail you will now what I mean, stop chasing profit with gambling although sometimes the temptation is high, you need to know and realize that most of the time you will lose your money
Temptation and greed is the most common thing that is the hardest thing to avoid when we do play gambling and you are right we are blinded because of that which causes for us to play and believe that we could able to make huge money out of gambling.
7527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Operating a BTC gambling site - Worth it? on: March 04, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
Just imagine the current price of bitcoin. Yet somehow it seems that they campaigns from gambling sites has no changes at all which is for me means that they are not so much affected of the currrent bitcoin price hike.

  Why arent they so affected? Well who knows? Maybe because they can still pay the price
There would be no effect at all since their bitcoins would grow and even they are paying on fix campaign rates it doesnt matter because its just on the same story.No matter how bitcoins price would hike they will still not change payrates which is really an advantage for its promoters.
7528  Economy / Gambling / Re: fortunejack.com POSSIBLE EXIT SCAM on: March 04, 2017, 12:40:46 PM
Why it should be limited? Since many people say good thing about that site. Things is happening here, so without clarify anything they just raise the withdrawal amount which does not make any sense for such a big and old site. And btw I told once before that fortunejack is scam though and their support also so bad, last time I have an issue and they are completely ignore it and said that is not their problem. How can you guys still believing their site until now?
You cant blame on the people do still believing on fortunejack and as i read above on  the link posted by fj support seems like they do have the right reason and explanation why they increase the minimum payout but considering on that range its really high but stated there its not permanent so just chill.
7529  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You only lose if... on: March 02, 2017, 04:04:17 AM
in my opinion, we only loss if we are rush and in hurry to make decision without doing research for what is going on in the market and we don't watching and analyze the chart. sometimes we get in there and we made wrong decision so we are rush for selling or buying coins so finally we loss the good time to selling or buying. i think its normal to have this experience as we are ordinary people that sometime we loss our mind because of we are not focus.
Yes that is normal for people like us to make bad decisions because we are not perfect and we need those kind of experience to do better decision in the future. There is a saying that says "Losers quit but winners fail until they succeed" i think on that saying it is the proof that winners always need failure in order to succeed which we can apply in buying and selling coins like bitcoins or altcoins.
We do really learn from our past mistakes and as we are still newbie we do commit mistakes and we cant really deny on that. Mistakes do mold us for future decision that we would made since experience adds up and we do already know the right next move.
7530  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should governments allow people to pay their taxes in Bitcoin BTC? on: March 02, 2017, 03:48:48 AM
i don't think that i want to pay the taxes on bitcoin, i think its enough for us to pay the government from our money to pay the taxes and i think the government is already make a big profit from people taxes and i don't think that bitcoin user is agree to do this. but we can do nothing if the government want to make regulation for bitcoin taxes and we only obey what they want.
True,we cant do anything if our government would impose regulations regarding on paying taxes thru bitcoin but speaking of this regulation they wont really such make thing and people will surely not obey this for sure and the question is how government would trace up the citizens who uses bitcoin?
7531  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: March 02, 2017, 03:30:31 AM

I want to generate a constant monthly gain. Is it possible to do this by bitcoin trading? So, can I just do this by dealing with BTC trading?
Are there any people among us who can make a living by trading in BTC?
If you are asking to make profit in trading in a fastest way, that's not an easy to do it.  Doing trade in the exchange it needs  a lot of experience in buying different altcoin which are potentials to buy, and it needs some analysis before you gain or obtain the level of a real profit in trading. You can have a fix income in trading that's possible but you cannot have fix rate amount/average of earnings in exchange sites.
Yes, fixed income in trading is possible because you just need to put a target income for a month but getting good profits in trading is one of the hard thing to maintain because sometimes the market is not active. But we can have a high chances of getting high price by doing great analysis and having a lot of experience in trading.
Being profitable in trading is not really easy since you would really need enough knowledge for you to be able to do so. Trading could really give us profits but not on constant amounts because same as you said sometimes we do earn big and sometimes its just average it would depend on the market movement.
Getting enough informations and building up your knowledge in trading is not that hard to do because all you need to do is to study the basics fundamentals and the common behavior of the market or the coin that you are trading and then study also how the manipulators work in altcoin market and how you can take advantage of that. If you already achieved that then getting big profits is easy because you already know how to play the market and that's what professional traders already did, they study and apply those basic things on their self.
Learning would really be easy because of veteran traders would able to help you out and all the things you need to learn is already on the internet which means it depends on you on how you gonna train yourself or having a self study regarding on doing trading and yes it does require time and effort and we will gradually able to learn in and get the right methods.
7532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: March 02, 2017, 03:16:08 AM
If you really want to quit in something that you really are good and somewhat a part of you already, It's going to be hard, maybe even the hardest too just because it's already a part of you. Especially when you are addicted to it. Just open your eyes and see if it's good for you or not. If it's not good, find a group that you sharw beliefs in, then you can over come it.
It would really be hard if you dont help yourself because the first thing should be done is the determination on quiting gambling because if you dont have this all actions or aims would be useless.Seeking help from others would do but be sure to help yourself first.

True, the first thing to do is accept you have an addiction then you have to learn how to combat your addiction. Acceptance is key, if you are in denial that you have an addiction then you will just tell yourself that you don't have one and this is just for fun and I only lost... $300,000. That's not how you should face this problem.
Acceptance does really be needed and you are right because if you dont have this you will still surely play as long you do know you do have the money to play on.
7533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 02, 2017, 02:55:02 AM
i will always coming back to gambling because i need to earn money everyday
to cover all my daily needs if i am lose today will back tomorrow with bigger funds
to recover it and for earn money not only for fun

i think you should be careful to playing gambling in everyday because you can not win in every time you've played and if you want to cover your daily need, i think you should search another jobs that can help you to fill your need. its not good to fill your need from gambling as we don't know how much we can win from gambling but the choice is up to you.
Its really a bad idea on making gambling as a source of income or making a living with it since we all know we dont know what would be the results or whats on ahead.We also know that gamblers mostly lose in the end thats chasing our losses is not really a good idea.
7534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: March 02, 2017, 02:23:11 AM
If you really want to quit in something that you really are good and somewhat a part of you already, It's going to be hard, maybe even the hardest too just because it's already a part of you. Especially when you are addicted to it. Just open your eyes and see if it's good for you or not. If it's not good, find a group that you sharw beliefs in, then you can over come it.
It would really be hard if you dont help yourself because the first thing should be done is the determination on quiting gambling because if you dont have this all actions or aims would be useless.Seeking help from others would do but be sure to help yourself first.
7535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: March 02, 2017, 02:00:44 AM
Investing our money in online casino has the better chance to gain some profit at the long term. But don't forget to find a very trustworthy casino to put your money in and always follow the development of the casino. Deceived is the only reason why I am afraid to invest in an online casino.

I would love to choose investing to. I don't want to lose all my profit with gambling since I know that I can go crazy if I'll let my gambling spirit go on with me. But I will not just focus on a single investment there are some investments like trading. I will go also for some offline investments and I would love divest my money.

The more you diversify your funds then more you will reduce losses in the longer run. Yes, you also should consider putting your money in different asset classes instead just only in casino bankrolls. I too invested in gold, real estate, bitcoins, shares, etc., I gamble only for fun and never consider it as an investment.

Yes exactly and even though there were times that you are going to earn small from each sources of your investments. Still you can come up into bigger profit combining them all. And with the lose that's definitely an advantage if you will diversify your funds,you can lose with some of it but if majority has gains then that loss is nothing.
As long we are on positive profits those loses are just normal and we cant really avoid that thing since its part on an investment on losing some of it and we should really be ready on that situation because not all investments do constantly give us profit.
7536  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Go to Land Based Casinos? on: March 02, 2017, 01:46:08 AM
The truth?I didnt even try to play on a casino since i dont have the capability to do so because i dont have much money could able to play there thats why i do love play casino games online because we could able to adjust on the amounts that we would like to risk.
7537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: March 02, 2017, 01:28:03 AM
if gambling not introduced people will have to do hard work get money is correct statement
but to earning money from gambling is not easy too so with or without gambling people will not easy to get money
in gambling we will find difficult way too to get money

at least if gambling is not introduced, then people will not try to make money out of it is uncertain as gambling. People have to work to earn money and as you said it was not easy. I think gambling is just a shortcut for people who want to earn money quickly, but has to do is throw a quick buck.
Gambling cant be remove since its being known since the beggining of human civilization and gambling is really a shortcut to earn fast profits and also losing money,thats why we should really treat it as an entertainment since theres no easy money on gambling because its very risky.If gambling isnt introduce then people will surely find ways to make money.
7538  Economy / Services / Re: ♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ Signature Campaign - High Pay - Monthly Payments - Bonuses ♠ on: March 01, 2017, 06:06:02 AM
My rank now is Hero Member,i have already changed my signature according to rank..
7539  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: March 01, 2017, 04:59:32 AM
Bitcoin has already overcome PayPal but PayPal only has the edge in terms of popularity and so with time I guess everything will be evident for all to see because Bitcoin transfers and transactions presents better alternatives to PayPal.

I don't think that bitcoin has already overcome PayPal. If bitcoin will overcome PayPal then those online stores / shops & merchants aren't going to use PayPal anymore but will completely depend with bitcoin. But as of now, the two has in a very tough competition but I do believe that PayPal will don't have choice when Bitcoin is reigning but to adopt it.
You do have a point since bitcoin isn't still recognize by most countries and paypal is being already used for how many years when we are talking about online transactions but when the time comes that bitcoin adoption would spread it will surely defeat paypal for sure.
7540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Strategy and Lost in GAMBLE on: February 23, 2017, 02:13:19 AM
Strategy? I dont really believe on this things specially on playing pure luck based games because no matter how you analyze you will still lose in longer runs but theres still chances to make good profits if you are lucky on that particular day.
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