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7541  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: July 25th to Aug 8th diff thread on: August 11, 2015, 03:14:08 PM
Sorry took a few day's have been with limited internet.  Did not want to announce it on forum before hand to prevent someone from trying to make a fake of me during it.

Locking thread thanks to all who helped in it.
7542  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Sfards: SF100-the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner gets into mass production on: August 05, 2015, 06:20:17 AM
HAS ANYONE GOT One of these yet ?
I'm surprised we haven't had any photos or reports of these "in the wild" yet.


I keep thinking the same thing. The first batch has to be getting done soon if not done already.

I want one myself, still cant believe the price zoomhash set.  I want to see them in wild to see prices and if they do go down.
7543  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Sfards: SF100-the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner gets into mass production on: August 03, 2015, 10:50:05 PM
I doubt anyone is going to pay $2000ish (Zoomhash price for a single unit) just to review it.


I personally refuse to pay almost double from a reseller.   I have voiced many times I want to do one so I can get back into scrypt.  

But I can wait till officially in stock.   No possible way I mine 800 dollars between when they get it to me and when they officially get them in stock.
7544  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: August 03, 2015, 08:36:49 PM
Macro is with limited access right now.  There is no reason to turn this thread into people asking for spots (like last 3 posts).

If you bring something truly unique or special to the table as far as your posting send macro a PM.  But don't just send asking when spots will open, I don't want to flood him with spam Smiley.   But as of right no spots have been advertised as open.
7545  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Second hand S5 for Bitmain, are they worth ? on: August 03, 2015, 08:29:24 PM
Here is the question I have to ask on second hand gear.  If it's worth Bitmain sending someone out to their farm and unplugging it, then sending it to a customer for X amount..... should I really be interested in that gear at X amount?

I respect them for saying it has been used.  If they want to get rid of it at that price I personally cant see why I would want to add to my farm at that price.

If you pay less for electricity than them, sure? It's still ethically dubious... With the home miner dying and the hash centralizing, it look like they arent even making the effort to hide what they're doing. They could have put them back through QR, cleaned them and sold them as refurbished, but no... They aren't even bothering, they are selling units they ran in their own farm (so they says themselves) and aren't even bothering cleaning them etc. xD

It depends on what the cleaning is.  If it's just the fan and finds of heatsink I don't mind doing the cleaning if it would save me money.  But if it's so bad it's down to thermal paste I would prefer not to clean.

Are you serious on the pay less electricity then them?  I have no idea what bitmain is paying.... but I doubt many hobby miners can come close.
7546  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bit Crane Mining Equipment from new egg it's temping . on: August 03, 2015, 08:25:56 PM
I wonder if it really requires all 4 pcie connectors running @ 500gh

I'm guessing that it must.  One of the pictures makes it look like a splitter going from 1 pcie to 2 on board. Do these miners use a splitters?

The interesting thing is these are probably one of the few miners that are not running whall they wait to be sold.  I think these are actually sitting on a shelf somewhere at newegg.
7547  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Second hand S5 for Bitmain, are they worth ? on: August 03, 2015, 08:17:41 PM
Here is the question I have to ask on second hand gear.  If it's worth Bitmain sending someone out to their farm and unplugging it, then sending it to a customer for X amount..... should I really be interested in that gear at X amount?

I respect them for saying it has been used.  If they want to get rid of it at that price I personally cant see why I would want to add to my farm at that price.
7548  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ETHICAL PROBLEM WITH BITMAIN on: August 03, 2015, 08:10:51 PM
This is pretty standard by any manufacturer, when I used to repair electronics. Sony, Panasonic and many others required us to void warranties if the water sensor was ever tripped, keep in mind that if the camera or electronics is in cold A/C and you take it out on a hot humid day it may trip the sensor.  Other then that most got repaired under warranty.

Is it moral since its their money and their deciding?  Probably not, but they will not go out of their way not to honor their warranty cause if people complain in mass its ruins their reputation.  So in the case of 5 miners, I would expect them to be honest.

I don't know if it's moral or not.   But some people put the units under pretty horrible conditions.   I remember when SP20 showed one that had salt water damage I believe.   It is crazy but I have heard of some just down right bad conditions for miners.

Shipping it back is a normal procedure.  Most likely there are some good parts they can reuse.   A good example is S3 controller boards.  Most bricked boards they were able to make come back to life.   So shipping them back provided a source of a good amount of controller boards for future returns.  Ethical... i do not know but I think that was a business decision not ethics.

What did they decide on yours op?

7549  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series on: August 03, 2015, 08:00:52 PM
Is noisy these psu?..Huh.

It is a server psu.... and 1600 watt's.  I think it is safe to assume it makes some noise Smiley.

Normally when you look into most server PSU's noise is not a huge factor as far as what they worry about.
7550  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 50 BTC lost because of blank passphrase on: August 03, 2015, 06:03:27 PM
This is a pretty amazing error.  I cannot imagine someone with 50 BTC making this mistake.

If it is someone new made this mistake... wow would that be one way to make you want nothing to do with BTC.
7551  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: August 03, 2015, 05:41:50 PM

it's a passion for me than money ...


My hat off to you, sir; a very impressive set-up!  I like the hand-made look of it all, you can tell it's a labor of love and not some cold data center.

Thank you  Wink

Love your setup, looks very very nice Smiley.

Mind if I ask what is your electricity price in your case there?
7552  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CloudThink NEW 8TH/s Imperator Bitcoin Miner - Apply for a FREE test unit on: August 03, 2015, 05:38:31 PM
A private message has been sent.
7553  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Sfards: SF100-the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner gets into mass production on: August 03, 2015, 05:29:25 PM
Oh I see it was a skype screenshot, I thought it was a screengrab of their customer service site. Yeah this definitely has nothing to do with Sfards, sorry about your loss.

Yea sorry to hear about it aswell.   This form of scamming has been around for to long, and still works.  You need to double/triple check skype names.   

And on this one it's pretty hard to get, so if anyone is offering it currently might investigate pretty well before buying.
7554  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Exactly one year away from block halving on: August 03, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
I bet price will go to the moon (1-2 month before), then crash (1-2 weeks after), then go up but slowly  (months following the halving)

I'm so excited about that. Let's wait 1 year guys  Grin

Buy now and keep you bitcoin Cheesy That's my advice

I think once we get close we will see a increase.  But I do not think it will be to the extent many of us would like.

My biggest fear is what this will do to the mining sector.   To cut 1/2 of it makes most home miners out of business.   I'm afraid of it just being "free" power, and mainly by far big operations.  Time will tell.
7555  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: People are still buying 333 MH/s Block Erupters on: August 03, 2015, 05:23:13 PM
I'm collecting old mining equipments for cheap prices. It's just for fun, I don't turn them on. Anybody with a sane mind won't buy them for real mining for profit. Cheesy

They are still good learning tools to.   For someone wanting to learn about mining with little money you can grab one of these.

To be honest I'm surprised the value they still hold.  It seems collectors and those wanting to learn are there, and there is a market.
7556  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH on: August 03, 2015, 01:38:12 PM
I would like confirmation, did the latest S5 firmware fix the chip not going idle when the S5 lose internet connection? The fan would power down but not the chips.

Wondering if i should order those bimetal thermal thing or not.


It did but for some it had other side affects like hashing cut in half. or speed dropping to 900 GH .

The entire problem seems to be hit or miss.  I have had an S5 since batch 1. 

I have lost internet before to the unit and did not get this problem.   But others obviously did. I wish we could see what the differences are.   
7557  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: August 03, 2015, 12:26:20 PM
i got the full 0.13 payment, maybe i was the only one? weird stuff going on with the bot this week...

There was a bug or something.  As for many of us it was over a week that was being paid for.   Mine showed quite a bit more on stats, then I was sent: 0.11570000 . (have not looked in Bit-x to see actual amount yet)

I have had good luck with this campaign so I'm not complaining.  I know they will look into it, but something was off as far as payment.

Either way it's still the best campaign around.
7558  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon official reponse to Bitmine bankruptcy - Let the evidence talk on: August 02, 2015, 12:42:29 AM
One scammy fat fuck scammer down in the bitcoin community. Only a matter of time before the rest like Joshua Zipkin his almost twin goes down #JoshuaZipkin #bitcoinscammer
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/01/ex-boss-of-mtgox-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-in-japan-over-lost-480m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate

Japan has a conviction rate that exceeds 99% (Note that it includes guilty plea cases.[1]), which has been attributed to low prosecutorial budgets impelling understaffed prosecutors to present judges with only the most obviously guilty defendants.

Karpeles is toast.

Reading article it's insane to think of keeping "MtGox said 750,000 customer bitcoins and another 100,000 belonging to the exchange were stolen due to a software security flaw." in a hot wallet.  I cannot imagine 850,000 BTC in a hot wallet.  Just even if they talked about security I cannot imagine someone suggesting hey ... lets move most of this to cold wallet and only keep so much online.
7559  Economy / Services / Re: 35 BTC JOB! eCommerce Website Needed on: August 01, 2015, 11:55:15 PM
If the right developer comes along and wants to use escrow and I can find a trusted service then yes, looking at those profiles the amounts are significantly smaller than this, or the alternative is that I'm happy with is to break the job down into milestones you can develop it on your own server so I cannot access or steal the source code, and as you complete each milestone I will send payments as we go.

I'm looking for an experienced developer, there is not much time for this project so mistakes would delay the project that's why it needs to be done right the first time round. So experienced people only please.

The milestone idea is not bad.  But with being new you will need to put the BTC in a escrow. 

You could set a list of milestones with escrow and who accepts it to pay X amount at X milestone.
7560  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: July 25th to Aug 8th diff thread (temp) on: August 01, 2015, 11:50:53 PM
Ohh, i see. I think i misunderstood what you meant by "end after 1000 blocks".

The round is not over yet Shocked

You're not talking about this?;

Adjust time:   After 963 Blocks, About 6.6 days


okay each  diff adjustment   that number starts at 2016  and count down to 0

so

 when 2016 - 300 =  1716   that is the start of picks
 when 2016 -1000 = 1016   that is the end of picks

we are at
   2016 -1053 = 963     so picks are ended but winner comes  in 963 blocks  with the new adjustment.  so you are in the running.


Some back ground on why we did it like this.

  We used to let you pick just 1 number like 1.11%   and the closest to the real number won.

 but people would open new accounts and if you had 1.11%  they would pick 1.10% and 1.12%    so you got fucked inthat you need to be perfect.

so the range came up a .25% range and you must have the right number in your range.

We used to open picks right a way and end them ½ way into the 2016 block diff adjustment we also allowed 1 switch in your picks.

that was a mess and too much work to keep track of.

so we start  picks 300 blocks in and end 700 blocks later at block 1000.  so now we wait about 6 or 7 days to see the winner.

We also speculate on why diff moves about.  or stays stable.  if you look at the threads and we have about 1 years worth you can see a lot of info on diff movement the whys of it being really high  .  20% every 2 weeks for about a year.  to lower like now 2% for about a year.


I see. Thank you for the explanation!

Hmm i guess people using multiple accounts still aren't really penalized, since they can get bigger range.

But at least its harder to get a pick with better odds if you wait and try to snipe the value at the last time with new accounts, since the range is locked.

Ever thought of putting a minimum activity requirement?

yeah but realistically the prize is small 0.10 btc  and so far we have not had 100 newbies in the first hour lock up all the picks.  If that happens I think we would cancel it.

Well maybe they just havent discovered it because there's newbies trying all kind of crazy thing just to get in Sig Campaign. I seen crazier stuff happen for 20 bucks.

I'm still wondering however. Where does the BTC come from, i don't see ads or anything. There is such a kind benefactor who dont mind giving 0.1 every 2 weeks?

There is a kind benefactor.   And sign campaigns are not bad if used right, but I will not get into that here not sure what crazy things you mean.  They keep it pretty well in check between campaign managers and mod admins.

But yes if a bunch of new accounts start guessing it would be noticed. So far there has not needed to be rules as normally speculation is users who have been here a while.  But if someone signs up with multiple accounts and takes guesses, i'm sure rules can be added.

Difficulty like rest of summer is still looking good:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    52,278,304,846
Estimated Next Difficulty:    53,720,691,762 (+2.76%)
Adjust time:    After 930 Blocks, About 6.4 days
Hashrate(?):    380,119,309 GH/s

Price is going down a little this period around 282 on coinbase.
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