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7581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: November 24, 2016, 11:43:28 AM
I haven't seen any gamble sin in the Bible
I could not tell also because I do not know hat bible are your reading. Me, I do not regularly attend mass but my parents told me when I was young that gambling is a sin, but I do not listen now that I am an adult because I just found that it's fun if you are just doing it right.
7582  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: November 24, 2016, 11:40:25 AM
As for example , I'm purchase 2 bitcoin ( by investing every month ), 1 year ago and the value still $ 300 / btc !

And now, you can see my current profit since bitcoin reach $ 750 recently so it's unexpected things to happen but it's no impossible
It's definitely not possible as it has happen in the past already, when you buy low and you sell high that will constitute a profit.

Now, I do believe that we do not just simply hold our bitcoins as we also have the responsibility to ensure that the market is doing well for bitcoin and we will know that with constant reading of the news and any news will certainly affect the market and you can use that for your decision making.
7583  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: November 24, 2016, 11:31:23 AM
Not investing is an investment because you can just hold your bitcoin and wait for it to rise and then you will have as much as you would if you did i mean i am not against investing  some of your bitcoin hell i do some investing my self but not invest it all
there are many variations on investments and you are free to choose the existing investment in bitcoin, you choose a low risk or high, it's up to you, if you want a low risk you could just hold your bitcoin and wait for prices to rise
hold bitcoin is also has high risk it's possible the price is dump hard and you will lose your money temporary , but for high risk you can high profit too if you success to do it.
Therefore it's necessary that you will monitor your investment not just holding and doing nothing. It's the nature in the crypto world where pump and dump will happen and despite the fact that bitcoin has the highest volume here it's still volatile. Just accept the reality as the more the risk the more the reward.
7584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 24, 2016, 11:15:20 AM

Indeed many false hope of gambling, we must make wise gambling as entertainment for pleasure, don't use too big a gamble for our money, so when win or lose we remain pleased

I think that's too hard to do for a typical gambler, we cannot deny to ourselves that when we lose we will feel something not good and will rage which will result to chasing bets which is the recipe for disaster. That can be done but it needs a lot of practice as not everyone has the ability to control their emotion in gambling.
7585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your average bet per game? on: November 24, 2016, 03:45:45 AM
Well, maybe in sports betting, I always bet BTC 0.005 until 0.007 once the match. so I can be more efficient in gambling, and not spend BTC exist in my wallet. I am always careful in betting, because if I bet a lot and lose, it will make me stressed. so I only bet with a little BTC when playing
luckily you are play on sports mostly isn't it? with 0.005 and a little touch to manage your bankroll there is no harm to do gamble continuously , but if you gamble in a casino even with a very small amount i am sure not many people can survive to keep playing.

as gamble in a casino always make you get heated .
Sports betting is better if you a gamble who love to study to improve your method because there are ways that you can improve it, also the outcome of the game is not that fast like in dice game so you can still analyze before putting on the next game. That alone would already give you time to think better for your picks.
Actually in sport gambling you have a little advantage of using your mind, your experience, skill and your knowledge work a bit in sports gambling therefore sports betting are more profitable as compare to other gambling games. When the odds are in favor, I do not bother about my bet size, I will go for big bet amounts as I believe I am good in sport betting profit making.
Your mind or your knowledge, and experience is what constitute to give your skills in gambling, you are learning along the way and you are improving your skills. True, that sports betting is a good type of gambling but are we sure enough we can win on that game easy.

From what I know, sports betting industry are among the richest in this world.
7586  Economy / Services / Re: Komodo Signature and Avatar Campaign | Member - Legendary on: November 24, 2016, 03:40:46 AM
Our campaign manager didn't have enough time to finish the spreadsheet today, sorry!

To cheer you up I'll announce some good news!

If you choose to get paid in KMD, then we will give you 25% bonus!

After the ICO we calculated the exchange rate, and it is: 0.00012907 BTC/KMD, or 7747.73 KMD/BTC

With the bonus you can get 9684 KMD/BTC!

P.S. don't send me your addresses in PM (they will go nowhere), also announcing them in this thread will not help. We will give you instructions once we move to that phase (after the spreadsheet is ready)

Sorry for the delays!

Best regards

This one is a good announcement from the OP, imagine guys it's +25% and considering they have a successful ICO there's a great chance the price will pump if you guys will not dump easy. For people who does not really need money the soonest, they will prefer to receive KMD as maybe one way to support the project.
7587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 24, 2016, 03:36:19 AM
how many people are lucky but lose,How else have no relation with luck but uses several strategy that allows them to make earnings, and also how many people have no experience in games but who make big pot, and others who uses the same strategy that worked for other people but does not work for them.
So; do you believe that earnings in gambling is depending on luck?  Huh

I believe so. It is really depends on the player if were too excited to earn , we bet a lot that we cant even afford to lose. The result is either we win or lose. I think it is really depends on your luck no matter what strategy we use or even how many times we played things will not went right as we plan .
In the end we still lose, it's all about the money as greedy people bet what they cannot afford to lose and though they are having the skills of making good bets but with lack of decent bankroll in the long run they will still lose even if the game has no house edge.
7588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 24, 2016, 03:31:34 AM
Stopping with gambling is not easy but its possible without any doubts, its just that you have to set your mind on it and keep believing in yourself stay reminding yourself to it!
It's easy to stop when your problem is not too big, the more you can stop early the better. All in our life is just sort of gamble because the future is uncertain but when we are making a decision that we like to make money on the hardest game in the world which is gambling, I think that's too risky and stupid for some people who does not have a qualifying skills to succeed, and this would result to bigger problem.
7589  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin be used for Good? on: November 24, 2016, 03:21:38 AM
Why not, why can't it be used for good? We have even had Bitcoin donated for charity cause example is "Bitcoin 100 which has run its cause". In a world there will be people who are good and some who are naturally bad and Bitcoin is a tool since its money and can be used to achieve any of the objectives depending on whose hands it found itself.
It can be use for good as the main purpose of bitcoin actually is for the good of the people, you cannot control those people who are making bad activities using bitcoin because they have the freedom to spend their bitcoins on the way they want, but the question is not even the right question IMO as you are indirectly accusing bitcoin that it is solely use for illegal or bad activities.
7590  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: November 24, 2016, 03:08:46 AM
Selling everything is not a good strategy because the future of bitcoin is still blurry it could go up to 1000$ or it could go down really low the best thing to do is hold half of it and sell the other half so in both cases you still haven't lost
Good idea ,playing safe !  We dont know what will happen this nextyear. I agree on you ,sell the half and the othet half keep it. And in that case it is balance.

If you need some cash, then just sell what the amount that you need. But if you mostly don't need to sell some of it, then just completely shut your wallet and just wait for the price increase for you will generate bigger amount of profit. The more patiently waiting you will, the higher possible income you will make but there's no assurance for it, for the chance of bitcoin to collapse is there and don't set it aside.


It's not like that, if you are treating your bitcoin as your investment you should be discipline not to touch it until your reach your target. Your expenses should be coming from your income in your job or from different king of investment you are doing that gives you daily return. In bitcoin, it's a long term investment and should be treated that way.
7591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 24, 2016, 02:38:21 AM
Well I can't buy Ferrari from my winnings but I can have a good holidays and that is super cool for me

I wish I could buy ferrari from my winnings also. But I can say that I'm not rich from gambling and I can't even get good amount of money in gambling. What I am just doing is gamble what I afford to lose and doesn't hope for any big amount of return. I guess those people who are becoming rich from gambling are those people who are really lucky.

Yeah those people are one in a million who get rich in gambling. And I'm not one of those lucky ones. I just gamble for fun and sometimes to kill time but still learned to manage my money and know when to stop. But still hoping to win in a lottery so I could be rich.

only few people that really become rich through gambling. those people are who quit immediately after hit a huge winning. hard to hold yourself to not to gamble again. people that have a high level of greed might would never become rich. due winning after winning they would gamble it all again , no doubt money desire would never end.
Those who might win the lottery, they have all the luck in this world and those wise people quit immediately and divert their funds in other business activity. If given a chance to win millions in gambling I would certainly withdraw that directly and build my long time dream business.

I will be very happy to convert my earnings in gambling to a legitimate business.
7592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: November 24, 2016, 02:31:01 AM
There is no way to anyone to gamble without loose, sure some people may be able to end the day with profit, but those profit requires lucky and some kind of strategy, but in the end we know that gamble wont allow anyone to reach or make huge profits, just some lucky people are able to such.

Yes there is no way to gamble without losing. Gambling is just created for the gamblers to lose in able the house edge will generate income. So if you are hoping to gamble without losing. Then it is better that you will just simply quit gambling and totally forget your gambling satisfaction. But if are that hard enough and looks for a way, try find a way to reduce losing.
It's not actually for us to lose, that kinda unacceptable statement. Maybe the right word to say it is, gambling is created for us to be entertain while the gambling sites are created by the operators to do business and to make profit. Although, it's not directly said but we should understand that already that we are losing in gambling and they are making profit.
7593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is Gambling Like Investing on: November 24, 2016, 02:18:52 AM
Gambling can never be considered as a investment, because with investment you have assured pay back after certain time period but with gambling nothing is assured. So in my view gambling can be considered a earning source and not as a pure investment.

I think you misunderstood about this thing though, gambling is sure like investing though but with higher risk to get back what you desire. It is not always that you can get your money because of the risk but if you can outcome that risk you will get more better payout mean while if you only investing with some small amount I dont think that you can get some penny from investment

Yeah he misunderstands that investment will give assured pay back after investing. No, it is not the right way he thinks.

All types of investments are risky and it depends on the investor on how he will take the risk and willing to accept the fact that he will lose.

The same thing in gambling, it is risky. You have the chance to win and lose, gambling is just like investing your money the way you want it and to risk it higher.
Investing for me is when you were able to minimize the risk and maximize your chances, still there's a risk, right? So, the activity of gambling alone is too risky for me since you are playing against the house advantage, the only way you can turn things to be in your favor is when you own a gambling site or invest in existing gambling sites.
7594  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: November 24, 2016, 02:00:08 AM
The best way I think to manage money is to understand that you do need to save and can control the urges to not buy your wants and just pay your responsibilities. You can manage your money through apps, knowing what you paid and how much you save. The first thing when you get your salary or wage, you take an amount already to save. You take a part of it to savings, and apart of it from responsibilities. You should always keep in mind to save then spend what's remaining rather than to spend then save what's remaining. It's a sure way to have savings and completely manage it using an application. That's how I do it. 

You don't even have an app for managing your money. What you need is discipline, if you know the importance matter of saving your money and spending it in right way. You can just simply identify how to manage your money properly. And that's one of the way to best manage your money by knowing the your wants and needs, focus more to your needs and forget for a while those wants.
App is not even necessary as you can certainly right it down if you do not know how to use an app. What we need here is the will to save and we can only do that if we will be able to manage our money very well.  Knowing our priorities is one of the factor to be considered, having a future plan of investment is good so you will be force to set up an amount of investment.
7595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs Betting on: November 23, 2016, 05:08:17 AM
When betting - either sportsbetting or betting in poker, you get to decide/pick your spots that are +EV situations (subjective in sportsbetting, of course). In gambling, not so much.
I am sorry but I was not able to snip out your explanation, in my own knowledge regardless of the type of games as long as there is money involve it is considered as gambling, now since sports betting involves money then it's obviously gambling.
7596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 23, 2016, 04:37:54 AM
Just follow your instict and you will be fine Smiley
And by the its a gamble we really dont know what will happen after we bet so just allow your assessment to win inside your mind and wait for the result if we are lucky enough for sure its gonna win. Nothing is needed but to wait and see just always remember to enjoy so win or lose you will find happiness with your game.
Our instinct are wrong most of the time especially in sports betting, when we see the line we grab it easily because we feel that our favorite team is going to win in the game.

Without knowing that bookmakers knows how a typical gambler reacts so they will set the line to be deceiving and make it easy for us to choose the bet but in the end we know our bets had lose.
7597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many bets do you we need to do in sports betting a day? on: November 23, 2016, 04:05:40 AM
I heard that when you play small number of bets you have a chance.. How's that true in sports betting and base on everyone's experience.

There's no science to this. You're either good at sports betting, lucky at sports betting, a mixture of both or neither.
You obviously stand a better chance at winning & winning regularly if you have a certain amount of knowledge on a particular sport.
Luck will never be enough to be a successful sports bettor since you need to be able to take advantage of opportunities that will present themselves and in order to see them you will need skill so you can see if a bet gives you value or not.
It will never be enough if you are playing for profit, luck is just something that can give us a temporary win but in the long run it will not make be consistent. Aiming to achieve success in gambling requires you to be hardworking enough and you can do that if you will continue to study to develop your skills.
7598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: November 23, 2016, 03:32:05 AM
The definition of gambling is entertainment, and entertainment is not a sin. It will depend on the effect of such gambler's life. It's like bitcoin, bitcoin can be use for illegal activities yet we cannot call bitcoin is for illegal activities and should be prohibited, the action of a user is what makes it a sin IMO.
7599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 23, 2016, 01:22:38 AM
Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.
The risk is always there in investment, however you can reduce your risk while increasing your chances of making profit by making a complete study and I would recommend that instead of gambling which obviously would not do good for us, why not invest in reputable gambling sites.

As long as you will diversify your investment you will be fine...
7600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 23, 2016, 01:15:25 AM
Gambling is not super wrong but the fact is that you just should not do it too much because it stays something that is risky and can get you in problems.
You just should do it sometimes for the enjoyment and nothing more.
I agree. Gambling is wrong in comparison with sport or education. And yet there are things much worse than that people can be addicted to. For example, drugs which obviously are not good for health at least and adrenaline seeking which is too dangerous.
gambling is dangerous depend of a gambler because if that gambler doesn't have any control in his/her money/bitcoin there is always a possibility that gambling will always be dangerous and risky.

Gambling can be dangerous, but so what? You are taking that risk consciously to look for potential profits or to entertain yourself. Either way, you have agreed to take on that danger as a part of the terms and conditions.

Gambling is not wrong. I don't think so.

It realpy depends on one person's perspective.. and we have to acknowledge and respect their own opinion towards gambling. Gambling is for fun and also to make atleast a little profit if you win. But if you really abuse yourself to it and lose all your money then it will become wrong.

That is what others do, they are abusing gambling and instead of thinking that way. They are making gambling as their primary source of income.

And that's why gambling is becoming wrong for all of us, we tend to think that we will become rich for very fast way because of gambling.

But that is really wrong and will just lead us into losing a lot of money in our pockets.
Abusing gambling does not exist in the vocabulary of a gambling operators, we might think we are abusing gambling but at the end of the day we are  abusing ourselves as the outcome will always be losing. It's hard to tolerate that kind of behavior, we need to change so we can still enjoy gambling for good.
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