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761  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Scam Crypto Telegram Groups on: February 05, 2019, 07:19:50 AM
Don't trust those telegram groups. Its more worse since you are paying for a membership at their "premium" group. Believe me or not, most of the predictions they give are just random, or take information from different threads. If really could predict the prices, why would they have a "paid" group in the first place? They could just trade on their own and make enough profit. And those pump and dump groups are another form of bullshit. The leaders will always make profit on those groups.

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Don't trust those telegram groups
and why ? not all telegram groups are scam . some are legit and informative  . some are required you to join after you have apply for a bounty or sig campaigns  .

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ts more worse since you are paying for a membership at their "premium" group

Premium groups on telegram are rare . most that ive seen are always free  . its not a bad thing to pay only if you knew that the paid membership is worth it for getting real signals and other legit infos  .

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Believe me or not, most of the predictions they give are just random, or take information from different threads.

Yes . thats why it called predictions because they are not accurate  . theres no guarantee that what they supply can occur .

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If really could predict the prices, why would they have a "paid" group in the first place?

paid groups do have a capital to pump a certain  coin  . thats why you pay them  .

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They could just trade on their own and make enough profit. And those pump and dump groups are another form of bullshit. The leaders will always make profit on those groups.

They can easily manipulate if they have enough funds from other people  . also , pump and dump groups arent bullshit because they are business  . they earn from this and others too .  yes leader earns more because this is his main idea  .
762  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which is better option for trading Bitcoin or stocks ? on: February 04, 2019, 11:53:34 PM
If you want to trade, then choose stocks.
If you want to invest (HODL), then crypto is for you.

Why not choose both instead of chosing one ?  In that way you can minimize your risk while at the same time earning a succesive income  .  

I know its easy to say but hard to operate because many will fear on both activities  . some dont trust cryptos yet because its kinda new and untrusted while some aldready confident with stocks but they find it hard to understand  .

Others love cryptos because its easy but they dont like the high volatility factor  .  

763  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's price is so volatile right now! Why should I even hold? on: February 04, 2019, 10:44:48 PM
the market will continue to change because the bitcoin prices are volatile so that when the market goes down the most appropriate choice is to keep holding bitcoin because bitcoin will survive and will soon rise again

Yep the market will survive  because crypto are too useful to be forgotten but we must accept the fact that crypto can go down sharply therfor we must sell some to cut our loss   . its not bad , whats bad is that seeing your assets drop without doing anything to preserve their value  .

Well of course. My opinion is if you don't consider dealing with BTC you can't be involved in crypto. A person should hold tokens not for someone but for themselves.

why not ? its not necesary to buy btc just because you wana get involved on other cryptos .  you can actually buy other coins directly without having to go for btc first  .  person hold tokens not only for his own sake but it does also help the other crypto user  .
764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Invest in ICO or buy BTC? on: February 04, 2019, 10:03:57 PM
You can invest anything you want, BTC, altcoin .. But you should not invest in ICO. 90% you will lose or invest in the scam ICO. There are many ICO scam in 2018 and 2019, you should be careful with all current ICO projects
Agree, when market go down, we can invest in everything we want, which could be bitcoin or altcoin, these options will be very cheap at this time and we can receive profits in the future, the most important thing is that we need to diversify, not focus all in one place and be patient, everything will be good. With ICO, this is a difficult period for projects when the amount of capital they need is often insufficient, so if we are interested in ico projects, we should buy after it is listed, it will be safer, buying directly in the ico phase is probably too dangerous
When the market is strong, it does not matter where to invest, any kind of earnings will make a profit, but in a weak market with ICO you have to be extremely careful, I believe that this is generally an unjustified risk

The market is now strong because the coins are holding their price to not go down the drain  but there were other definition of strong market and that is when the price of the coins are pumping.   No matter what is the status are , it is still adivsable to invest at all times because all cryptos always have the potential to increase the longer they run  due to the adoption or to the demand that they will get in the future .
765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IS BTT a good investment for us ??? on: February 04, 2019, 03:14:37 PM
Us ? Not all . its up to you whether you will invest on it or not . i heard about btt recently and i must say that it is a trendy ico with a good number of sales .

You can try it if you want to but for us , we are already contented on what crypto has to offer .

For me this is the token used to pump and dump, I don't see any potential for this project.

That is also what im thinking about at first but after i see the name bittorrent , my doubts were instantly erased  .  bittorent is a legit torrent brand before until now .   its popular , thats why it got alot of attention .
766  Economy / Economics / Re: what will happens if everyone has own currency, doesn't a bad for Economics ? on: February 04, 2019, 01:28:28 PM
Personal cryptocurrency for everyone is a great idea! This will mark a new era in the economy. This will be a natural exchange on a new spiral of progress. Technically, everything is ready. It remains to create standards, institutions, Infrastructure that will provide the solvency function of any currency, which is supported by labor, talent and creativity of the issuing person.
Personal cryptocurrency for all is a waste of time and effort. Almost all of them will be useless signs that no one will need. Well, you exchange them with your friends and acquaintances, and then what? You will simply know that you have a cryptocurrency. And you will use the same means of payment that everyone uses and who are in demand.

Its possible but only for personal use  or for decoration/souvenir only  because its not legal if you csn create your own currency without the approval of higher authority .

 but let say it can happen in real life , i guess that can only cause too much confusion because every single person has a different kind of currency that they will use for buying and exchanging  .

767  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $1.7 billion in Bitcoin stolen on: February 04, 2019, 12:38:54 PM

i think for some investor $1.7 billion is not much cause right now bitcoin had value $60,833,048,151. so don't panic about that hacker cause in this digital world so many hacker. so for ourselves, it is more important for ourselves to save our data so that it is not hacked

the said amount is already billion . we cannot disregard that event because that can affect the value of btc badly  . what i dont understand is why there were too many hacking hacking incidents happening lately  ?  hmmm ? is this a sign of something bad ? lets hope not  .

That's a huge amount of Money and I don't know whether it is true or not. Even if this is true, people may have a difficulty to believe this.

true or not true , this is something that is believable because hackers mainy attack crypto exchanges and bigtime accounts . they can stole much more money than that  .
768  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ATM's are popping up on: February 03, 2019, 10:20:35 PM
I honestly though that these Bitcoin ATM's wouldn't live very long and that they wouldn't be half as popular. I doubted that anyone would use them since it isn't profitable to anyone except the person who owns the ATM.

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I honestly though that these Bitcoin ATM's wouldn't live very long and that they wouldn't be half as popular

Huh ? How can you say that things ? bitcoin thesedays are now kinda bit popular . almost  all of us do owns it   and  every btc hodler are always looking for bitcoin atm's to try if they can really withdrew and deposit btc using those machines .  this may not really popular to you but soon as other recognize it , they will also follow the trend  .

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I doubted that anyone would use them since it isn't profitable to anyone except the person who owns the ATM

bitcoin is still profitable and will always be .  the market may be down these times but this isnt forever .  soon the price can rise and it can attract again investors  .
769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin matured as a currency? on: February 03, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
If bitcoin is really mature then why its value is stuck at a low price point ?  Yes 3k or under is low because the ideal price of btc is 6 to 8k  .  

Other factor on why btc can be consider imature is the adoption . majority of countries / people arent familliar with it  .

We can call only it a mature currency if btc will became mainstream  .

There is no currency on this earth that is 100% stable and totally devoid of manipulation

Local currency are 100 percent stable ( except usd and other major coin )  . they have a fix value and cannot be manipulated anymore .
770  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency lending business. on: February 03, 2019, 10:41:50 AM
I have heard of it and it has been roaming around the forum for months. As for me, it is a convenient way to invest yet a risky type of a decision that we could make because we don't know when we are getting a good profit here now that the market is currently down.
it seems that it is the nature of cryptocurrency, which has a big risk but also gives great rewards. but if we already understand this business, the risk can actually be reduced

What business are you talking about ?  The title says lending business which means we are talking about lending here and not crypto investing    .   

Crypto lending or lending in general is a good business because it is indemand as people are always seeking for cash whether it is for emergency or for personal spendings  .

you just gotta know the correct people that you will offer this service because many are also looking to scam  .
771  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin & Banks on: February 03, 2019, 09:16:08 AM
bitcoin with the bank are interrelated. because bitcoin has grown to date because of the bank. so btc if there is no bank then the possibility of bitcoin will not grow as it is today. but even though bitcoin and banks are interconnected but the government still has not agreed with the circulation of bitcoin.

bank is not connected to bitcoin . they even hate it because they think btc is like a bank that people use for investing  . bitcoin only grow because people buy and invest on it  .  

It's not about protocol. Bitcoin simply cannot be channelled through the banking system as the two things are completely incompatible. Banks deal with a trust system whereas bitcoin is trustless and banks have no way of accommodating such a type of currency.

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It's not about protocol. Bitcoin simply cannot be channelled through the banking system

i think it is possible . we did already have btc powered atm's  .  we can deposit or withdraw btc using banks 

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Banks deal with a trust system whereas bitcoin is trustless

if btc is trustless then why people buy and invest on it ?  btc is trusthworthy because it is existed for a long time but banks , not all banks are trusted because they are only controlled by people  .
772  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it time to sell Ethereum & all coins , and buy Bitcoin on: February 03, 2019, 06:47:06 AM
ETH is a good coin but these days we will see fud that ETH is a failure and we should sell it. This is because the whales want us to sell the ETH at lower prices and they will buy at these cheap prices. Remember ETH has a hardfork on 25 Feb, so it's price can pump near the hard fork.
Also a lot of token runs on ETH chain and therefore it makes it a very useful coin.

i thought eth fork had already been cancelled ? you did said that eth will pump after the hardfork but why you are suggesting that we should sell our eth's ?  i agree that whenever theres a fork , the price of a coin can also pump but you we should act fast because the pump cannot last a long time due to sellers will also sold thier hodlings to be able to gain a profit just like you  .

you also said that eth is a useful coin on which i also agree with it because i can also see and feel it . we must not dispose our eth with that said no matter what happen .  if we want to buy other coins , then use other cryptos or use fiat to buy  them  . basic
773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Be careful of strange projects on: February 03, 2019, 04:11:48 AM
Guys, it have come to my notice that some criminal minded guys are busy creating tokens and using it to defraud people, example of those tokens are *ripple classic,stellar classic, eos classic*, becareful guys and don't fall victim to their sweet mouth, they are busy listing them  in almost exchanges and using that to brainwash guy.... Becareful and guard ur money like ur whole life depends on it
We also see that ETH classic vision is a scam and it is now traded quite a lot on the Yobit trading floor. It has been accused of numerous scams but there are still many greedy people who want to buy those scam altcoins.
It's so bad, we can't influence greedy people and we should let them have a valuable lesson!

Its obvious with their names that they are shady but if im not mistaken i get a few airdrops from them before and some of them did skyrocket thru the roof  .

 im sure many people enjoyed them for a short time but eventually they did disapeared  and some got scammed because they temtped to buy the those coins  .

Greed is really what drives us to our pit
774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH and BTC bottom 2019 on: February 03, 2019, 03:02:06 AM
What is everyone predicting as the bottom on the market for ETH and BTC for 2019
yeah buddy, many of my friends thought last year was the lowest price of all crypto asset prices, and this year I didn't expect much of the cryptocurrency price to recover quickly, I think getting a green candle every month is enough

you guys werent alone as i also thought that  . i thought last year was the lowest and this year was the recovery but i was wrong . infact 2019 ( this year ) was much morst than the previous year but this is not the end of the crypto world  .  sooner or later their value can still recover and grow as long as the etf , bakkt and other agreements  were finally approved  .

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this year I didn't expect much of the cryptocurrency price to recover quickly,

no man , the price didnt recover quickly but instead the price did drop more pretty quick .

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I think getting a green candle every month is enough

its enough if the green percent were huge and can last a bit longer  so that anyone can enjoy it  .
775  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: It is not your fault that you are loosing in trading! on: February 03, 2019, 01:45:26 AM

your the one that makes your decision so theres no one to blame whenever you lose your trades .  its not because of the market because the market originally works this way before or after and even on the future .  

 
agree with you , i think this year more risky than past 2 year

All year are risky because even before , the value of cryptos are already highly volatile  . the past is not an exemption even if we say that they are better because they market is healthy back then  .

There is no magic in trading, you must always remember that if you experience to be lose in trading, it is understood you made a wrong move when you do trade in the market.

There is . theres a magic in trading , we need magic so that we can earn huge profits  .  the magic that im talking about is luck  . sometimes if we are lucky we can decide properly .  
776  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Holding coins on: February 03, 2019, 12:40:36 AM
Dont hold your coin on the crypto exchange, and hold there only if you want to trade. Too many issue of crypto exchange get hacked. In the beginning of this year, cryptopia exchange get hacked and we can not guarantee others exchange avoid the same issue. For long term hold , much better keep the coins on the private wallet that you have own control with the private key.

I think that depends on the exchange we are doing it mate. Though, holding gave a lot of help if they will become more patience, especially
if the coins is really has a capability to get higher in the future aside from bitcoin, and Ethereum. Then, put your coins in the most safest place storage wallet.
The point is that, exchange doesn't gives us the full control of our funds making as just depend on the credibility of the exchange while in fact we could have full control of our assets without third trusted party. In this way we could assure ourself that our funds are well kept.

Agree . thats why i dont trust online exchange ever since i start investing in crypto im not a fan of putting my assets inside the exchange because i feel scared as i know that they are always the target of hackers  .   i rather opt to hold my coins inside my hardware wallet  since i have a vast range of coins on my portfolio .
777  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A better way to invest in cryptocurrency. on: February 02, 2019, 10:49:54 PM
I know a lot of people who quitted their day job to trade in the cryptocurrency market.
But it was when the market was good.
In this bear market, they're struggling very hard to survive.
So I think the best way to invest is this :
Have a side job, cut down your expenses, then invest 10-20% of your monthly income in the market.This way you never have to worry about gain and loss and surely you have higher chance of getting rich because the market will recover in the long run!
But if you do another job, you won't be able to focus on the crypto market. we will only succeed when we focus on a single job.
instead of having to do other jobs, we can trade everyday to get some money. I think that is the best way to be successful in the crypto market.
doing trading only will be a difficult for all of the traders to get their profit then how can they manage their secondary job also in the meantime but considering trading as a main job is very difficult for anyone in trading we need some other way of income not and secondary job.

Yes trading can be consider as a sideline job because not all times the market is in good condition . stable jobs that pays in fiat are more guarantee because they provide sucessive income for a longer time  . many want to apply for a job offline but the problem is that applying a real job is also hard than most people think . 
778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 6 Ways to earn Tokens without investing or mining on: February 02, 2019, 12:16:31 PM

Of all the options, you can earn good money only on the sixth method. There is no sense to spend your time on other methods, you will not earn much.

6th method which is applying for crypto jobs or free lancing jobs that pays in crypto is verry hard than compared to 5 other method . do you think you can easily get accepted after you post your applications ?  many people are also looking for a job  .  you have many competitors  and most jobs available are also hard .

id rather do bounty and airdrops because theres always an available slot for me  . the task isnt also hard and the payouts are also promising only if you know to choose a good one  .
779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DO WE NEED TO REGULATE ICOs? on: February 02, 2019, 10:32:48 AM
who is we?

actually the bitcoin founders already regulate ICOs with their corruption index and that bad enough

do you mean satoshi nakamoto already regulated ico ? oh wow  , how come ? he is a founder of bitcoin and bitcoin is his only creation  .  he must first regulate his invention before others but luckily he did not do it because he created bitcoin to be partially anonymous  . he wants freedom  , thats why he didnt like regulations  .

as for ico i agree we must regulate them because im also tired of scams and fake projects  . they say regulation can somehow prevent those shady projects from spawning  .
780  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Whats your most common uses for cryptocurrencies? on: February 02, 2019, 08:55:30 AM
I am using my cryptocurrency in buying prepaid loads.
Using an app that accept crypto, I get ten percent rebates everytime I buy load. Also, for bills payment there is a discount. Here in our country, bitcoin is not illegal.

That's great, and you can get more benefits from bitcoin. I hope that in the future, I can get the same things as you. Right now, I don't use too much of cryptocurrency besides of exchange it into fiat because it's hard to find a local store that will accept bitcoin or altcoin as the payment. I can only dream for living in the country or city which want accept cryptocurrency for a new payment system.

Though bitcoin here in our country is not totally accepted and recognized by the government at least some merchants will also accept it as a mode of payment. I am also using it for prepaid loads and more.
For offline merchants, it is still very rare especially in countries that prohibit cryptocurrency. but in online, I think payment using crypto is quite famous you know ? I see there are many stores that accept Bitcoin payments, ranging from hosting providers, domains providers, electronic stores, bill payments, etc. and I also often use bitcoin for that, even though I also invest in bitcoin

In my country there are now a couple of offline stores here that now accepts crypto payments . mainly they are retaurants , resto bars and some mini stores  but this only available on major areas   since crypto adoption is not yet really recognize on our city/region    .  so thats it i use my crypto to shop and dine but aside from those i also use it to buy data's ( intenet mb 's )   .

Soon im looking forward to use my crypt to buy some physical items online like gadgets , for example phone , power bank , keyboard , etc ... Im just waiting for our local online shop to support crypto because i heared that they are now doing some move to inplement it on their service .
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