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761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: July 23, 2016, 01:35:41 AM
Appreciate the project. But if EthHF holders can use their coins on the Eth Classic chain, won't it be likely that they'll just dump it to 0 ?

We'll start at 0 but price now looks to be 33˘, this isn't a pump and dump, we're here long term
762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: July 23, 2016, 01:34:00 AM
where could i buy some ?

no worries... im sure the hacker has a few million to dump Grin Grin

Preferable solution is for white hats to keep them locked up or hacker to donate them, but refunds are not supported on this chain
763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: July 23, 2016, 01:32:46 AM
where could i buy some ?

Now bitsquare

Possibly soon https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4u45n6/coinexchangeio_is_working_on_adding_ethc_to_their/

Update OP and Title with new ticker ETC

Someone from Reddit needs to tell me but I like ethc or eth
764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 22, 2016, 11:51:31 PM
Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714


Every time I read this (bolded) I can't help but laugh!

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After a torrid few weeks arguing about what to do, while the DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization) became ever more corrupted due to repeated attempts to recover the money without fixing the code problem that made it impossible to prevent the money being stolen again, the Ethereum community has finally bowed to the inevitable. The DAO code has been rolled back to a point prior to the original attack – a “hard fork”. Ethereum has had its first bailout.

Frances Coppola and Elaine Ou both wrote splendidly well-argued, devastatingly condemnatory articles about the outcome of the DAO/ETH fiasco.

It's now perfectly clear the hard fork isn't being done for any reason beyond a troubled asset relief program.

Good luck with that TARP-fork.  You're going to need it.






765  Other / Off-topic / Re: Fight between scammers - who would win? Homero Joshua Garza or ... (poll) on: July 22, 2016, 10:07:48 PM

766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 22, 2016, 09:46:52 PM
Ethf is a dead man walking
what exactly does that mean?

There will be a massive dump, do you realize how big the supply is? Add in inflation? Plus pos?
767  Other / Off-topic / Re: Fight between scammers - who would win? Homero Joshua Garza or ... (poll) on: July 22, 2016, 09:33:40 PM
Nigerians, they spell better
768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 22, 2016, 09:32:33 PM
Ethf is a dead man walking
769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: July 22, 2016, 08:22:04 PM

You can rent Dagger-Hashimoto rigs and point them to one of the "classic" pools.
Yeah, www.nicehash.com has nice rigs as well.

How many ethc can I get with 1 btc

Let's try mathing a bit...

1 BTC buys about 7 GH/s for a day. Total network hashrate is 31 GH/s so you would have about 23% of the network. I think the total number of coins mined per day is 25k-ish, so you should be able to mine 25,000*0.23 = about 5,000 to 6,000 ETHC for 1 BTC.

I may have messed it up completely though so don't go spending your retirement savings without verifying the numbers yourself.

Thanks that's above my $20 floor

Then again the market seems to be selling at 2000/1btc

Ethc at 33˘ is better than paycoin and just getting started!

770  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: July 22, 2016, 08:20:29 PM
Homero burned all his money and I'm sure those close to him stole some since Homero admitted to not even being able to use a paycoin wallet, I hope stu will buy his wife a trailer to live in while Homero is in prison

Allen Shinners, former wannabe GAWMiners employee, then outspoken critic, then business partner with the Usual Suspects & now leader of the GAWsuit, believes that Homero stashed millions offshore in fiat.

He has good reason to believe this & to spend so many hours working on this, and he clearly had access to inside info.

Getting a monetary judgement in his favor, however, and then getting his hands on said funds, moreover, are completely separate & difficult unrealistic expectations, IMO.

I'd love to know what he knows.....

I highly highly doubt it. I do believe Homero Googled store money offshore but there's no way he did it successfully. The farthest he went would be to give it to a fake banker/Nigerian. Remember Homero is retarded. But we'll see.
771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: July 22, 2016, 07:04:40 PM

You can rent Dagger-Hashimoto rigs and point them to one of the "classic" pools.
Yeah, www.nicehash.com has nice rigs as well.

How many ethc can I get with 1 btc
772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: July 22, 2016, 06:09:46 PM
Where to download the wallet? Is there a wallet somewhere that's easy to set up? I don't want anything messy with lots of hacking and clicking through options. Anything ready out of the box?

This is how I got a wallet.

Not mist but https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases

https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases/download/0.8.1/Ethereum-Wallet-win64-0-8-1.zip

You can't have the updated blockchain though. So if you already had this software you need to rename Mist and Ethereum in appdata to start fresh and choose no fork.

I don't know how they're different. Ethereum sucks compared to btc. I can't even see my transactions wtf?

You don't even need to trust us since we're using eth code. Ethf had to get new code not ethc.

773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 22, 2016, 02:35:02 PM

Despite all rumors and attempts on fudding..


ETH is up 15% with a nice volume.


https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_eth

That's what a pump and dump looks like
774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 22, 2016, 02:25:09 PM
How exactly is ethf going to beat bitcoin? It almost lost $150 million in seconds, being pumped and dumped, hyper inflation, not immutable, premined, and massive supplies. And they want pos so the owners can syphon more value out.

All they're missing is a lock up period like paycoin and onecoin so the owners can dump, oh wait they had the doa which burned to the ground

All the dao are scams which will go bankrupt, they had a roulette game which can be forked out by the govt by holding vitalik in contempt until he forks again since he has no excuses now

They're already ready for doa round 2, they might be dumber than paycoiners
https://reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4twcix/crowdfunding_for_slockit/
775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: July 22, 2016, 02:18:33 PM
It just needs a listing on a "real" exchange

Yes if someone can contact bittrex
776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 22, 2016, 11:24:56 AM
So, how you guys see this going? I personally think it'll go down until we get closer to the devcon date. As now Coinbase addition is behind us and DAO holders will be cashing out their eth refunds. Correct me if I am missing something. Also, what is the latest on the classic? Any major exchange planning to add it?
In terms of ETHC (Ethereum Classic) vs ETHF (Ethereum Fork), it will be a matter of time to see which one will prevail. Either way, I don't think ETHF will be done for so easilly, not even if DAO holders would massively cash out. Actually, anything can happen.. Time will tell!

Does ETHC have a chance? There are more miners and pools supporting ETHF right? The ones supporting classic will have to switch because what's the use? How can they make profit by supporting what is considered a dead chain by the Ethereum founders themselves?

If the miners and pools supporting ETHC cannot cash in their coins then they will give up before the end of the year.

We have a strong community https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0
777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 22, 2016, 10:32:35 AM
Vitalik is not being honest and closing this thread
778  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: July 22, 2016, 09:15:20 AM
Homero burned all his money and I'm sure those close to him stole some since Homero admitted to not even being able to use a paycoin wallet, I hope stu will buy his wife a trailer to live in while Homero is in prison
779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETHC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: July 21, 2016, 10:18:25 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/
780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 21, 2016, 10:09:31 PM
Critical article but interesting - and not totally wrong:

A Painful Lesson For The Ethereum Community
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2016/07/21/a-painful-lesson-for-the-ethereum-community/#494412bf5714

Sad that ethereum became greedy and incompetent
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