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761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Most Expensive Thing Bought with Winnings from the Casino or Sport Bet on: July 16, 2022, 11:07:47 PM


You are not sure of what? That is totally fine because we all have our own priorities and we all have the right to do what we wanted with our winnings, be it expensive things for our loved ones, paying bills, investments, etc. Just like you, you choose to help people with your winnings rather than buying yourself or family something. There is no right or wrong about that.
well - we all have our concerns. and that is okie.
Everyone is giving there concerns so lets respect what others are saying
762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An alternative to gambling with money. on: July 16, 2022, 11:06:02 PM

In my point-of-view yes, rehab can help the user especially if its obviously a gambling problem.
Gambling apps are rampant especially is my country. Hopefully they can remind their players to keep it fun.
IF one decides to leave gambling then they should do it for good.
If there is half will involved than there wil be always an issue. Everything one should do - should do it with full enthusiam.
763  Economy / Gambling / Re: The History Of Gambling. on: July 16, 2022, 11:03:00 PM
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If we go through the history then we can find that, in Hinduism, gambling started much before the Mahabharat which started around 3139 BC.
In fact, gambling had a major role in the cause of the great war. So we can say that gambling has it's roots at ancestral level.
It's mind boggling to see how much gambling has evolved.
And there were some cruel incident attached to the gambling as well. Like barter deal - giving goats and other animals or even the daughters/ women.
The gambling was and is the game which excites the people a lot. There were many ways how it evolved. But it did.

There are even worst things than the example you have given.  In ancient Rome, gladiator fights are also associated with gambling.  It is a fight to the death depending on the decision of the editor.  Editor is the person in charge of the event, he maybe senator, emperor or another politico.[1]

If we go through the history then we can find that, in Hinduism, gambling started much before the Mahabharat which started around 3139 BC.
In fact, gambling had a major role in the cause of the great war. So we can say that gambling has it's roots at ancestral level.
It's mind boggling to see how much gambling has evolved.

Gambling needs to get in sync with the improvement of technology.  Since gambling is another kind of business, there are companies that do R&D, improvements, and developments to get ahead of the gambling business competition.  As a result, gambling undergoes lots of evolutions and improvements depending on the available technology to date.



[1] https://www.thoughtco.com/how-did-gladiator-fights-end-118422
That is correct - gambling is a business
and everyone deals with it in their way. However there traces go back to ancient time. In hinduism there are clear signs of gambling in remote past.
764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: People are not only gambling to win but they are buying entertainment on: July 15, 2022, 02:26:52 PM
Some people would say that they're on it for entertainment. And it's like a never-ending statement from everyone who gambles to have fun.

I see people who talk about gambling for entertainment as liars, most of them don't want people to see them as gamblers that's why they always use the word entertainment to cover up their gambling activities. Most people who say they gamble for fun and entertainment will use huge funds to gamble and they will never leave the gambling environment yet they are been entertained with their own hard-earned money that is a big lie.

Anyone who wants to be entertained will not solely continue to gamble rounds after rounds rather the person can engage in other activities they don't encourage staking money on, so long as the person who is gambling is staking money to make more money, i see no entertainment or fun it.

I agree with you - what the thrill is all about when you are losing money. The only happy ending is if you get so much money in return. This money matter is a strange game - - people keep running after them - and yet they say - they are living a contented life. .
765  Economy / Gambling / Re: How do you know how to trust online sportsbooks? on: July 15, 2022, 02:21:35 PM

Well, BTCGosu is different... you should check out why by yourself! Smiley

You saw 1xBet/1xBit here maybe: Blacklisted Bitcoin Casinos! With the explanation of why it's blacklisted, and an image from the forum where you can see those red tags...
The older the business is the more authentic it is. But there are various ways to check to the authenticity - the most talked about is reviews, Customer support and quick response - the RTP and the withdrawal process.
766  Economy / Gambling / Re: The History Of Gambling. on: July 15, 2022, 02:09:00 PM
This is something that is indeed quite interesting but in a case like this there must have been several versions of gambling especially in ancient times and I once read a presentation entitled "Cultural History of Chinese Gambling" which said that gambling in China is indeed old. more than 4,000 years and the first game is liubo where this if I look at the pictures in some of the quests this game is almost similar to chess with 2 players fighting strategy.


As for ancient Egypt, as far as I know, there was once an artifact in the form of a dice made of elephant tusk and there was a game similar to chess called senet CMIIW.
the image you brought forth - is an ancient image, great info shared though!
But the history of gambling is more ancient than that. It goes back to the creation of the humans. There were different ways people gambled. TOday's is most modern form of gambling.
767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An alternative to gambling with money. on: July 15, 2022, 01:58:36 PM

For someone who do make use of these free money then its up to them whether they had able to get or justify their curiosity on playing on the site but if not then it would really
be ending up on making a deposit.

For someone whose addicted then playing even on a free money wont really change a thing.
Money is a strange thing - we keep running after it - and then at the end - we die leaving everything behind.
I think it's good to have desire for money - but  having a strange lust which is uncontrollable is not the right approach - if someone want to leave the addiction then they should just leave it . .
768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Most Expensive Thing Bought with Winnings from the Casino or Sport Bet on: July 15, 2022, 01:55:38 PM
The most expensive thing that I've bought with winnings from my sportsbook bet were a car for my girlfriend.

Then I've left gambling, I was at some point between the gambling for fun and the addictment. So, better stop before than after. And I'm glad with my choice.

Reading something like this makes me smile and happy because there are still some people who choose to buy valuable gifts for their family or for the love of their life, that might be a bit expensive but I'm sure it was worth it to buy some valuable gifts for your girlfriend and considering that, I believe you got some good finances.
As for me, been winning some but it doesn't amount that big to buy some expensive ones. In most cases, I can only afford to bring my family to some mid-fancy restaurants and pay some bills in the house if there's something left.
I am not sure - everyone talks about payment and investment and fund and more money and loan.
I have hardly seen anyone - looking around and helping people in need. When I get some extra funds - I help people rather than buying expensive stuff.
769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can change of environment have an effect on gambling addiction. on: July 15, 2022, 12:34:11 PM

But if they happen to move in an environment in which no one drinks alcohol then they will not be as tempted to do so, and as far as I know this is one of the steps when it comes to overcoming alcohol addiction, and as such something similar should be followed when it comes to gambling addiction.
I think change in environment does matter - however - it also depend on the will of the person.
One should not get into the gambling to an extent where they lose their money and come in trouble. However sometime man become so much blind that they lose all the control over their mind.
770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? on: July 15, 2022, 12:24:26 PM
Most match fixing is only caught because it involves obscure bets that only a bookmaker would see and later investigate. It'll involve things like a football player forcing a red card in the second half of a game. The first bet might not get looked into deeply but a string of suspicious bets, usually focused around particular players would definitely set off alarm bells so it's not something that can last for long. If a bookmaker is ripped off, they'll definitely alert game officials and likely try to recover money by suing. All these things are normally kept behind closed doors to reduce humiliation and stop copycat activities.

I don't think scammers are stupid enough to constantly use the same player (who in your example gets a red card at some point in time) and the same account to place a bet. The problem with scammers is that even if they have a player willing to "cooperate" they can't make much money from it - if you make a small bet of several thousand dollars, the profit will be ridiculous compared to the risks and costs of such an operation. If you make a bet of a million or even a hundred thousand dollars, then obviously this will attract the attention of the bookmaker and he can simply return the bet with a coefficient of 1 without any trials and evidence.
some people are very good in making big bets and knowing the deals.
Those who know this art are real legends - I wish people makes their  and don't damage other people peace of mind and do not run away with their money while making their profits.
771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: July 15, 2022, 12:18:56 PM
The Indian Cricket Board wants Virat Kohli to play in the T20 World Cup. Although his day is not going well now. Most likely some more matches could give him a chance. However, in this case, there are more players, combination  new and old, they should be given a chance. But now it is understood that India is doing its best to keep the whole T20 World Cup in front of it to do better. However, it is not yet clear whether the player will change in the T20 squad.

India needs experienced players like Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma on a platform like the World Cup. Virat Kohli is now going through the worst time of his career. He has been consistently performing poorly, and the BCCI is still keeping them in the squad. Because BCCI now wants Kohli to perform in the World Cup. But in the next two series, if Virat Kohli fails consistently and cannot perform well. Then I don't think BCCI will keep Virat Kohli in the World Cup squad.
Aren't there any other good players in the team? why is the Kholi the only option. Kholi is now in many other campaigns like WLM and Clean Air.
I think he is now more into the bollywood - than in his career. The BCCI is just concerned about Kholi not about the national image. 
772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: July 11, 2022, 08:43:07 PM
Here you have valid point right now we can't predict about any result because we have to wait for another four months and European soccer season is going to start after few weeks which can bring some good changes in many teams like injury or any other problem with player can play a key change in teams performance here right now with the talk about few teams we all believe Brazil is very strong team, and they have good chance to win this year's trophy but few teams which are not looking good can give shocking results as they have few quality players and this is big point for all teams and players.

With most of the talk look like European teams are enough strong and can dominant again this event like we are watching them in last two decades but for practical results we have to wait some time.
But the weather condition in Qatar will be very different from Europe. The weather is hot and dry and also that being an Islamic state will have so many bans particular on gambling, sex and alcohol. I am not sure if the players are allowed to consume alcohol but for the other people coming from far off countries it will be a challenge.
773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? on: July 11, 2022, 08:38:29 PM

I doubt there is a fixed matching happening in big games because those matches are holding a lot of money. We aren't talking about small amount of money at stake here, but a big fund and the reputation of the players or teams as well which cannot be paired and bought by money. These teams are playing because they have supporters believing in them. They are the reason why they are popular and enjoying the place they are already at as well as its privileges. The trust of the people is what makes them going as well as the pride and satisfaction they get in winning every match. So no, I don't think there is a fixed big games.

I think the fixed games and win trading is common in local matches only. Those small games usually contain fixed matches because they couldn't care less about reputation or support because they don't have much most especially those held in small areas and are only organized by the common people. They are mostly just after money. Not all, but certainly there is fixed matches happening in small scale areas because it won't be closely monitored compared to big matches.
You have a valid point here - many big leagues can't be fixed - but did you happen to watch some world cup finals - the fixed thing is not the whole match - but one ball - which can be a no ball and the batsman would hit a sixer to change the game although - not the whole team is involved but one player or two.  But whatever it is - players are more conscious these day to stay away from this kind of stuff.
774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can change of environment have an effect on gambling addiction. on: July 11, 2022, 08:34:10 PM
to be addicted in gambling can only be resolved and solve with not having the intention of going online or going close to gambling sample secondary you don't have to like money because when you gamble at make money through gambling and they are not financially buoyant it is all yours but you still go back to gamble so anything that is addicted cannot give to Grandma infinity except history change his life
I think with the passage of time and age our wants and needs changes and so does our interest.
Many people who were serious gamblor left gambling after marriage to have better family relation. Also in our religion it is said if you in trouble at one place change the place, the city or the country - for us moving is a bliss - so we move when we are in trouble.
775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: July 11, 2022, 08:29:50 PM
Clearly, the changes made in yesterday's match were not good. They should have continued with the bowlers they had in the earlier match. Yes, testing before the ICC trophy is required but in my opinion, they should have done that when playing with a weaker team. I still feel if the same team was playing in the third match India would have won. If they wanted to replace someone they should have replaced Kohli.
In last few weeks we have too much criticism about Virat Kohli but as things are going I am feeling there is no change going to happen because after few months we have mega event T20 World Cup and after this after some time we have another mega event ODI World Cup so most chances selectors will give him chance until these two events and if he fails to do something big then surely he is going to lose his place in all formats.

About these changes in last match of this series surely I was also not expecting because after this tour India is going to tour West Indies with having five T20, so they can give youngsters chance here which is not good because with this defeat now they can go under pressure in coming ODI series and England can player more aggressively which is not good for them.
Kholi has become more of an actor cum entertainer after his marriage with superstar - Anoskha Sharam.I think Kholi started seeing himself as a super star too.
He is more into other campigne like Black lives matter and save the environment and lost his focus on his career. Now there is time - Indian team should look for a new captain.
776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Japanese man gambled away a huge Covid-19 relief funds mistakenly sent to him on: July 11, 2022, 08:25:37 PM
It's not yours in the first place, then why you should gamble that money? And I heard countless stories like this and it didn't end well with the person because this is like stealing. I know that it's the bank's fault or whoever it is, but the fact that it is not your money and for sure you know that. And then totally gamble it? This man should be jail  for years and pay it.
People like to have fun on others money - like many boys want to get entertainment on their gf money and many girls want to get entertained on their bf money.
People are materialis and they want to get as much money as they could. This lust for money is a disturbing trait and one should try to get rid of it. The sooner the better.
777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: People are not only gambling to win but they are buying entertainment on: July 11, 2022, 08:23:13 PM
I think we already have a lot of topics that discuss this and of course all of them have their own goals and understanding for gambling. for example, a gambling addict considers gambling to be the goal of his life, there is no longer any entertainment in it, there is only how to make him fulfill his desire to play gambling every day. I personally make gambling as entertainment only, when I lose that day, I will return the next day with enthusiasm and confidence to win.
from what I am seeing you I will see everybody is a scholar of it own in gambling tradition and in gambling involvement some people get addicted to gambling because then want to get addicted to it and where have to know that when you get addicted to gambling you'll find it very difficult to get away from it and before you get away from it you must have gloves excessive amount of money that will make you to rethink and I understand but what you are doing is abnormal
I don't think that gamblor goes to casino because they want to but  entertainments only. Not sure about it.
Gamblor goes to casino because he want money - more and more money. Do you know in many cultures gambling is not liked and admired at all and people do that in hiding. They stake their honor for the sake of money and not for entertainment.
778  Economy / Gambling / Re: How do you know how to trust online sportsbooks? on: July 11, 2022, 08:18:45 PM
That's why it's so hard to immediately trust someone else's review, especially if it's from a website outside this forum. But specifically for reviews from this forum, I trust it more because the people who provide these reviews have expertise in the field of gambling, so we can use that as reference material for choosing a sportsbook site.

I agree with what you suggest is to use small funds to see the progress of our bets. But still don't use large funds even though the sportsbook site looks comfortable because we have to take care of ourselves.
At least in this case we have more references because regardless of anything like this, there needs to be a match for us.
What I mean is when looking at the reputation and reviews on this forum it's clear we can't be completely sure if we really haven't experienced it yet.
In terms of reputation, it's quite good, but playing games is not necessarily suitable for us, so seeing more than one reference is indeed good enough as a reference and a choice whether the criteria for a sportsbook with a good reputation will suit us or not.
I am not sure about other countries - but in our country people would do anything for money.
WE don't trust new business - especially if there is money involved also we try to check with other people if they have had a experience about the particular business. But I have observed that scams dont last for long.
779  Economy / Gambling / Re: The History Of Gambling. on: July 11, 2022, 08:15:25 PM
Wow, actually, this is one of the most exciting trends I've seen lately. Very cool. Thanks for the article, I definitely learned a lot of new things.
If you're curious about how gambling started, this one is for you since you can read here some of the good highlights of gambling activities before. Honestly, this is also my first time to know the background of gambling, since I usually gamble without knowing the history, I'm not good at history but this one is really interesting. Gambling changes a lot in so many ways, I wonder what would be the big game changer for the future.  Cheesy
Gambling trends has definitely been changing with the passage of the time.
Also they are getting better and more sophisticated - We have seen some very strange gambling trends in our regions like barter deal and getting house, car or even woman if the loser don't have money.
780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An alternative to gambling with money. on: July 11, 2022, 08:08:03 PM
Those who gamble that are basically for money. There is no way they can accept anything fake instead of money. I don't think they will attract those sites in any way. Some times gamblers are interested in betting even if they have no experience in any field. In that case, there is no way to improve them with anything fake.
Lol it's more than just wasting time.

You will never feel the thrill playing with the fake money ... just like the demo , it's useless not really helpful at all. We need a professional help in case you get addicted to gambling .. not such distraction with zero function in it. I have a lot of addicted friends that can't move on from gambling and this way is one of ridiculous way he might laughing off.
TO me it's not an attraction. I don't like playing with fake money- if I have to quit gambling - I think I will indulge myself in some other activities.
Go into hiding into some remote area with my DSLR and will not be incontact with anyone for sometime - so that I clear off my mind. Once I decide something - I do it. No matter how hard it is. . .
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