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761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Secure your crypto wealth by not having it all in crypto on: December 21, 2023, 01:23:57 AM
just use paper wallet and you're set you frequently investing in many cryptos for long term i think thats not gonna be a problem, but if you need constant interaction with smart contract then i guess there's no truly way to be safe from those scammers , even i've seen so many wallet draining happening in every dapps scene and it happen quite consistently means the scams are exploiting the loophole and really good at it.

the recent problem with ledger also shown to be really critical the hacker attacking directly through the npm package of ledger speaks a lot about the security that it might look strong from the outside but if its getting attacked inside its done for even worse that problem only found out after a while.
i do agree though aside from keeping all the money in crypto, diversifying them might be better, but honestly i've never ever got my money stolen in my life maybe because i don't recklessly interact with some random smart contract.
762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum price before Christmas on: December 21, 2023, 12:48:38 AM
just hold on, ethereum coin is a good project and not a shitcoin, you don't need to worry about holding it for a long time, because all it takes is time and patience, that's why holding coins in the long term requires patience.

Absolutely mate you are right holding a good coin need more time si it's better to hold it tight and no matter what happen do not sell if you don't make a profit yet. There's nothing to worry about once you got a trusted coins cause one thing for sure you can get more profits if you are holding it. Like Bitcoin Many investors nowadays gain more profits as we all know that they are investing on Bitcoin tan the price still go up higher.
i wouldn't worry about etheruem hitting all time high because it obviously will its just matter of time, as we can see nowadays so many project coming up with program to stake ethereum even the gas fee for ethereum is increasing ever so significantly that executing smart contract function require $100 which is humongous for many of us.
its just matter of time until bitcoin reach all time high naturally ethereum will too and yes as you said, its not a shitcoin no need to worry even if it dumps right now to a thousand dollar it will come back up eventually in the future.
i would worry more about other altcoin that have peaked already they might reached their all time high this time around since we know some altcoin might not follow the trend of bitcoin reaching five times of initial price at time like this and just dumpinng all the way to the very bottom eventually in the future.
763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Craze for Meme coins never ends? on: December 21, 2023, 12:13:50 AM
How can we prove this story as anyone can easily make that story up,  but sure many coins can give you tremendous profits in the short term and that is why they are taken as gambling and nothing more than that,  and some of them are just planned pump and dump tokens at some point and if the investors are not smart enough he may lose out on the wave of the project and also ensure loses.

So now it will only be based on proven and verified means to take most of such stories as what they seem to be because even though the possibility is there,  it is still crazy to be able to achieve such profits without high calculations on when to take your profits out of the coins before it got trapped.
well there are many stories like this and yes it sometime gets proven with the blockchain transaction but of course there are some that are pure bullshit as well. regardless it could be the devs buying at the very low and artificially pump the coin anyway and then make this stories up later on nobody knows the thing with these meme coin is that its so saturated with scam that finding legit one is kinda difficult.
the ones thats legit in my opinion are only those coin that reached market capitalization of hundred millions at least like BONK, doge and so on if there's story that someone is making some good money out of it i would definitely believe but with some random meme coin definitely the proof is required.
regardless i would never get interested in investing in a coin thats highly manipulated, seems like im having lower odd with these coin even from the very beginning.
764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 20, 2023, 11:22:04 PM
As reported months ago, Toney’s preference has always been the Arsenal move. Arsenal are interested, but only if the right deal can be struck. Club still 100% want Osimhen in the summer as a priority, they won’t sacrifice that move and overpay for Toney.
The rumor is keep changing anytime. Arsenal has been linked to the several players and as long as there was no official confirmation from romano regarding toney and arsenal can do u turn anytime and im not thinking arsenal will be willing to get toney from brentford.
He was not the best choice to be used as a replacement for gabriel. I would rather than to see arsenal stay with nketiah.  Cheesy It's impossible for arsenal to get osimhen from napoli and believe me if that will never happen.

I think this would be a good signing for Arsenal by january. This way Mikel Arteta can play him directly as a goal poacher or sometimes pair him Gabreil Jesus to force the attack. This is what Arsenal needs right now soneone who  once he sees the goal post all he thinks is shoot. Someone like Osimehn is prrfect also. Arsenal has their eye on the young talent but Napoli is not ready to give him away yet.
Napoli may not let osimhen to leave from the club and how can arsenal try to hire him? there are also lots of competitors to get him too even chelsea has been linked to him again. I would rather than arteta to consider guirassy as the best choice to be recruited as a new striker.
Guirassy is very good compared to the osimhen and he was able carrying his club to enter into the top competitions in bundesliga. Arsenal needs to get alternative solution for the striker. The club shall not go straight to the toney or osimhen.
765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 20, 2023, 05:01:42 PM
- Real Madrid managed to top group C
- Real Sociedad managed to top group D
- Atletico Madrid managed to top Group E
- Barcelona managed to top Group H.
More than any other domestic league. This means that La Liga clubs such as Real Sociedad and Atletico Madrid showed extraordinary progress to become group winners. There is certainly no doubt about Real Madrid and Barcelona because these two clubs are at different levels. Because what I'm most worried about is that Real Sociedad's performance in the Domestic League is not as good as UCL, it's an achievement to be able to lead group E and be above Inter Milan. Real Sociedad could be the dark horse club in the last 16 of the UCL. The public will focus on competition between big clubs so that Real Sociedad can take advantage of this competitive situation by moving unnoticed.

Probably they have actually thought about performing better in the Champions League and have given the Champions League more importance. Or maybe the other reason could be they are not finding too much problem to go through that the group stage of the Champions League. After all, the Champions League is going to get harder and harder as time goes on in the season. But in the La Liga competition, it is ups and downs. But I respect the decision to give more importance to the Champions League. Because it is definitely a glorified competition and the biggest competition in football history after the World Cup.

Im not feeling good with it. we can get back to the result from the last season when there were many candidates from serie a were entering to the semi finals. it seems like this is the time for la liga clubs to repeat the same achievements like serie a clubs last season. UCL is just getting harder since the strong clubs is starting to face each other. As you can see that from the schedules of upcoming fixtures, if some clubs were not lucky enough caused by they have gotten strong club as their opponent.
The team like copenhagen must have faced manchester city and it's a disaster for the club. It's almost impossible for copenhgen to win against manchester united. There are so many great matches to come.
766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 20, 2023, 04:48:42 PM
Barcelona could finally sigh some relief with an easy fixture coming their way against Almeria, who are at the bottom of the league, leaking goals. Almeria have conceded 39 goals in just 17 games. Barcelona havn't won a match in their last 3 and would be looking to get one tonight. The attackers and defenders could use this fixture to build confidence and score goals while keeping cleansheet.

It must be an easy win for barcelona although barcelona will miss some players but consider from the quality of barcelona was still far above almeria and i have no complaint about that. I will obviously blame xavi on his twitter if barcelona will get draw or lose against almeria caused by it will be a very embarassing result for barcelona. We do know that if barcelona needs to have winning mentality even though it's going to face weak team. I think that this match is not giving huge impact to the club.
Barcelona can confidently winning the game against elmeria but this club is not suitable enough to be used as measurement to know how strong the mentality of the club.

Missing points will be a very bad result for barcelona. It's caused by the competitiors become even far from barcelona. Real madrid and girona were consistently winning their games. Barcelona needs to follow them or blaugrana will lose a chance to participate in the title race this season. The poor performance and financial issues become the hottest topic related to this club. Im wondering how barcelona can survive from so many pressures that will come to the clubsoon.
767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 20, 2023, 03:21:03 PM
I doa gree with what gallas said in this article published by goal https://www.goal.com/en/lists/chelsea-victor-osimhen-ivan-toney-former-blues-william-gallas/bltd5f85122ba2e6fed#cs480cd8c7fa207025

I meant having osimhen or roney will NOT solve the problem owned by chelsea. We do know so well if the main problem was on how difficult the club to scoring. Chelsea has some strikers but these strikers lack of experience. They don't even know how to get a good positioning during the game.
They are being so wasteful with any chances. I have seen it many times if there was no striker once its winger was sending the ball. I think that chelsea shall stop to waste more money. The club needs to make sure they can fix the main problem.

The blues got a very good achievement after it was beating newcastle through penalty. Newcastle has officially out from carabao cup after it was also out of UCL as well. This is not a good season for newcastle.
The blues need to hear some suggestions before trying to get a new striker. The current striker was so garbage and we can't deny that. Jackson and broja have very poor performance.

Chelsea needs to fix the main problem, and that is on the chemistry between the players. The blues needs to find the problem first.
768  Economy / Economics / Re: Are fast-fashion shopping apps hurting local economy? on: December 20, 2023, 12:39:45 AM
it does hurt local economy otherwise it wouldnt be raised as a concern in many media, i've seen many media raising this problem to their platform few years ago and its only getting worst.
the only thing that could stop this is the government with their taxing towards imports of such products otherwise it will just gonna be some people trying to import product from 3rd world country where everything is cheaper to the 1st world country and get that margin in between, i mean thats just how it is with import business in general just finding cheaper high quality goods oversea and then import it hoping to make some good profit by taking advantage of the gap of prices between the domestic product and the imported ones.
moreover, these fast fashion are leaving so many trash behind that honestly it should be among the thing that urgently need to be solved but somehow people in general just ignore it because its cheap.
769  Economy / Economics / Re: Used cars and real estate market very volatile and a lot people will fomo in on: December 20, 2023, 12:25:25 AM
Used cars? Really?

Secondhand properties I can understand and get behind,but I don’t think there’s a market for used cars now unless we’re talking about luxury cars or muscle cars for that matter, and even then we can’t guarantee that since the car industry depreciates in value every year more drastically than the smartphone world.

A practical used car dealership is one of a successful business for decades but it needs experience, someone with zero knowledge starts a dealership just because they have money then they will fail but one who has at least 5 years of experience in the field can buy a car for 5K and do some detailing work and sell it for 10K in less than a week.
so much underestimation for used car market by the people but its actually quite profitable market, usually these used car dealer got their used car from people that don't bother selling their car and the complicated process by their own and just brought their car to these dealership and give very cheap prices. usually it just needs some detailing as you stated and we are already talking about whooping 20% profit from initial capital if im not being parabolic but thats the truth, the market for used car are quite good market for now not too saturated either its just matter of finding a good secondhand car that are having super cheap prices and we are already talking about profit but yes the cars need to be sold within short amount of time definitely not more than half a year for it to retain value but regardless if we got the car at much cheaper price we still have many rooms for negotiation.
overall used cars market are just as good if not better than real estate market tbh.
770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trading new listed coin/token on: December 19, 2023, 11:50:54 PM
In the first few days actually, this is normal for the newly listed coins in exchanges that they'll get some value and that's going to determine if they'll stay for so long. But also the choice of exchange is an important thing to them if they'll stay here for a longer time. That's how new projects goes and usually a dump is followed by listings so, most of the early investors can get out. But if they survive, then the rest gets hefty load of profit.
the trend of the market that is bullrun right now kinda changed that routine right now many coin after listing still holding its value for long because many people are also getting fomo into buying the coin and holding it instead, sometime the coin after listing are also having some rally like if i remember correctly JTO was having quite good rally after listing and instead of dumping it have some rally that increase the price to be quite high, and recently its ACE that have the same rally, I guess bullrun does affect greatly towards the listing of new coin it also prove that the decision of many dev to hold for another bullrun in releasing their coin to be right.
right now I believe can be a good time to invest when at first listing so long we can get the initial price its already good enough because the trend is rally.
even though there might be some coin that dumps after listing thats because the coin is fundamentally weak so its different based on quality alone.
771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 19, 2023, 05:01:39 PM
Today Manchester City will be playing in the FIFA Club World Cup against Urawa Reds from Japan and yes, I am curious whether Manchester City will be playing their main squad or just playing their second tier players. But, if I consider Mancester City's schedule, then it doesn't seem right if Manchester City only plays second-tier players because after all, Manchester City will also return to playing in the Premier League on the 29th against Everton.

Moreover, considering also the trophy winners in the FIFA Club World Cup are dominated by European elite teams and in fact, Manchester City has not yet won this FIFA Club World Cup trophy. Therefore, even though the opponent that Manchester City will face is not a team that has as good quality as the elite European teams. So yes, it is very likely that Manchester City will continue to play their main players in this semifinal match and of course, also in the final match later against Fluminense.
City doesn't have one but you will be seeing it soon. It will be an easy game for manchester city if we are seeing from the european perspective but that's japanese team. We do know that how japanese team has been so popular caused by it has a very hard work.
It seems like that another difficult match for manchester city will be coming soon. Im sure pep will be using the full squad against it. Never try to underestimate your opponent. This has become a common knowledge in the football.

I have no information regarding the performance from that japanese team but urawa was not performing so well in J1 as it was out of top 3. Im thinking city will beat it easily without any problem.
I don't really care about the score as long as city win and that's enough.
772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 19, 2023, 04:53:35 PM
The face of la Liga is changing gradually gradually and I'm liking it. With the 3 nil victory Girona had last night has given them another chance to sit at the top of the table a s I hope the won't let this opportunity of including their name as champions of la Liga.

It's spectacular what Girona has achieved this season, a small Club between the giants Barcelona and Real Madrid.
No one expected Girona to compete at the top of the La Liga standings.
And based on points scored, Girona is the best team in Europe's top five leagues.
It's great to see a club that plays football well and has its style.
Michel Sanchez deserves appreciation for his hard work. He built the current team over the past two years.


Since it may probably helped by manchester city football group and im not doubting it. Michel is a very good coach that can handle the team to be even better than before. No doubt that if the club was able performing so well compared with another low - medium tier club in the la liga.
Being a part of city football group has been giving girona various advantage compared to the another team in la liga. That's also the main reason why girona may be competing with real madrid and barcelona in upcoming seasons.
Girona is very strong right now and it's slowly but surely trying to be another big club in la liga. I do support it caused by we are only seeing real madrid, barcelona and atletico madrid to be the biggest clubs in the la liga.
773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 19, 2023, 02:51:28 PM
Real Madrid has always been a top performer when it comes to the champions league,all season,they've always been the team with a good performance,and even despite not having the names that used to be there and give them that experience,but now,they currently have a squad that is full of young talents who are capable of winning the Champions league as well.

However,Arsenal, Dortmund,and Manchester City are other teams who may win the league as well,and after the round of 16,we would know the teams who can really go through to the final with the performance that will be displayed in this round.
Real Madrid might be experiencing inconsistent results in La Liga but they can be able to deliver when it's time for them to play tough matches. Real Madrid is the best club when it comes to winning major trophies and competing in elite competitions. They have the right players, an experience coach and die-hard fans that channel their energy to becoming one of the best leading club. Mentioning Arsenal and Borrusia Dortmund, they can proves to be competitive within due time and gets knockout when the main business arises.
At leasr madrid still able to delives the trophy for its fan. being trophyless was unacceptable moment for real madrid. goal is always consistently publishing the power ranked article from UCL team and real madrid is always at the top.
It represent how strong real madrid is right now. We can't deny that having bellingham is just making the club becomes even more perfect than before. I do appreciate all of the improvements being made by ancellotti in real madrid.
It looks like real madrid is just getting stronger than before and this is why madrid is always giving us easy win as long as we was picking it to win the game.

Im a real madrid fan and i consistently picking it since the groupn stage has begun it was always able delivering very good result even agianst napoli as the winner of serie a last season.
That proves how strong real madrid is after consistently beating napoli two times in a row away and home. There was no other club who can be as strong as madrid.

Madrid is having so many young players but these players are fully experienced to play on their roles.
774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 19, 2023, 01:58:16 PM
Rather than forcing to qualify for Champions or Europa League, it's better for them to develop their club first.

They need to find two wingers, midfielders and few defenders. Although Onana sometimes make mistakes, but we have Bayindir who can replace Onana. While the other positions I mentioned before, Manchester United really lack of good players.
If I may ask, how does a club focus on one trophy like the champions league or the Europa League? You cannot have a target when you don't have a squad to actualise your goals. Manchester United is not in the race to qualify for the champions league and neither are they in the race to qualify for the Europa League. They are just playing without focus. Whenever it gets to a stage that club will be celebrating draw like a win, you will understand that the club is in trouble.

Chelsea is in the state that I described above. We saw it when they drew with Manchester city 4 : 4, the celebrated like they won and their subsequent matches were disaster. Last week, Manchester United drew with Liverpool and celebrated as if they won the league. Something is wrong.

I agree with you that in fact clubs like Man United and Chelsea are only covering up their inconsistencies, so celebrating a little result is considered very important because you can never achieve it in full. So these two clubs are in big trouble that cannot be resolved in the near future. I appreciate the hard work of the Man United team when they held Liverpool to a draw and when Chelsea held off Man City. However this doesn't mean the fact that they are on the right track because compared to the record, this season achievements are still not enough to cover up their failures.

Chelsea is more shitty compared to the manchester united. How much money spent by chelsea last season compared to the manchester united? this is still remain the main question. manchester united is much more persistence compared to the chelsea.
Chelsea was struggling out of top 10 while manchester united is on the top 10 right now. Some improvements have been showing by manchester united once it was facing liverpool. There are so many parties applauses the hard work from manchester united during the game.

At least manchester united did better thing than last season when liverpool was destroying it with a lot of goals. Manchester united is trying so hard to make sure its club will be competing for the UCL spot this time.
Chelsea is still struggling with its performance and no chance anymore for chelsea to compete at the top positions. I must say if chelsea is the worst among the big clubs in the EPL.
Manchester united has been doing far better than chelsea in various aspects. Too many kids played for chelsea. It was also making them have no consistency as they have no strong mentality.
775  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Who should own a demo account? on: December 19, 2023, 01:23:48 AM
...Before putting money into our new strategy, we can let it run for a few weeks in our demo accounts and see how well it performs. Also, in the demo accounts we can make small changes to our strategies without paying transaction fees directly. For me demo accounts are a free tool that I try to use as much as possible.   

There is no point in returning to the demo account again to test a new strategy, since it can be done much more effectively on a real account with a small amount of money. And in this case, if your testing is correct, you just need to increase the amount of the bargain.
and also it gives more authentic feeling towards the market instead of some demo account where we used some fake money and certainly the emotion felt would be different and if its emotion that we are talking about then im almost certain that its the one thing that sometime could be the decisive factor on whether we gonna make money or not.
i also always trying to test my strategy with some small money just to test the water and see whether the strategy is good enough for me to put in more and more capital in it and see some flaws before hands.

At one time I was new in trading and when I was new I did not use any demo account in trading I directly used main account and tried to trade with main account. As I don't have any experience using demo account, I can't say how demo account actually works and how long it lasts and how to manage it. There is no rule for beginners to use a demo account so I don't want to go through this trouble because if I used a demo account I would have to create a main account again. I don't feel the need to use the demo account as it is possible to work with the main account.
There are some advantages of using a demo account that if someone does not understand anything about trading or has no idea about the market relationship, there is no possibility of any financial loss if he trades through the demo account.  So there he can practice trading as he wishes. And when he realizes that it is possible for him to trade and avoid losses, he can trade with real money in the main account.
but i would advise not to immediately put some big money into the trades after trying out demo account because thing can be a whole lot different, you know the tension of using fake $1000 money and rea $1000 money is really different even more so when we don't really have much money in the first place.
776  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade only Bitcoin on: December 19, 2023, 01:09:42 AM
Bitcoin is the only one that can give profit to a person because Bitcoin is a coin that can never go down because if you look at how many years ago Bitcoin goes down sometimes but again it goes up because bitcoin can never be finished and other altcoins I also think that I'm not playing the game because in a short time they go up and suddenly they go down.if we can see the future profit, so this is a very great coin, only bitcoin we should only invest in it. The rest of the Ethereum is also a great coin, BNB is also good, but of all of them. Depend is only on on Bitcoin
There's particular reason why I choose Bitcoin not because I'm acquainted with it but because it's a promising projects. We're in profits or not, it doesn't matter, what matters is our ability to grab significant profits in the market. The space is filled with competitive projects, all projects trying their solid best to outgunned the current one. No one would settle for lesser project, underrated it as if there's no absence of prominent projects. Bitcoin is a promising project in the market and I've cared ao much about making a bold step in accumulating good profits.
indeed bitcoin is really good coin that always the one that experience the bullish market first but we also need to know whether our capital suited to invest bitcoin, if my capital is low i would more likely switch over to other coin and find a good coin with lesser price, but its no denying that bitcoin is among the best investment, there's reason why many institutional investors out there are decided to invest their money and we are talking about tons of money here to bitcoin because its the best investment from their perspective, the liquidity is there, the community is strong, also if there's anything that gonna get delisted last in exchange its bitcoin because its the leading market dominance coin surely it won't get delisted anytime soon even decades into the future.
but the only hurdle of investing in bitcoin is simply put the fact that it requires a lot of capital, bitcoin is so great for big financial institution and fund management to invest but for us the little guy its kinda hard to get profit because even if bitcoin is increasing maybe 50% we just gonna get fraction of the profit like many have said earlier.
777  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The best decision you can take on: December 19, 2023, 12:40:43 AM
As long as trading is concern, it's very essential you have a guideline rules you follow while trading, and one of those rules is not trading when not sure of the market.
As simple as it may sound, it's very difficult to abide by it.
Timing is very important in trading and yes, its not always about you do trading but its more about the timing in the market. If you are doing this on purpose and with strategy, you don’t have to worry about the market trend. You have to be more cautious every time you trade, make sure to have your strategy always so you can know if its your buying time now or you still need to wait for other confirmations and that’s how indicators can guide us.
after all not trading is also part of trading, if we're not sure like for example when a coin has reached certain height we don't sure it could even climb up further, we just can wait until the coin go down again, I mean regardless whether the coin keeps on continuing to climb, then we can just find another coin, i always have strong sense of avoiding coin that already pumping because they mostly just gonna be waiting for a chance to be dumping and make exit liquidity for the group that pumps the coin, or anyone that hold the coin before the pump.
such tendency could easily save me from being fomo'd like anyone else therefore cause my money to be left intact not losing.
I've seen plenty scenario where so many people are buying at peak because they afraid of missing train in my opinion thats dumbest decision ever.
778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 18, 2023, 04:48:55 PM
You are right there is nothing we can expect from Chelsea this season everything seemed impossible to them moreover, having to fight for the top 5 positions is clearly more difficult,
With Chelsea's current performance, they can’t end the season in the top 5. If Pochettino will still be in Chelsea till next season, maybe we will expect a better performance from him, and maybe he will be able to end the season in a better position, but Chelsea have been inconsistent this season, which really affected them. Sometimes you will think Chelsea are in form, and they will be winning any club that comes their way, but they will perform poorly in some matches, nothing special will be coming out of Chelsea this season.

By the way Liverpool messed up my parlay yesterday Liverpool played very convincingly from the first half and continued in the second half but unfortunately there were no goal, I don't know what happened even though they dominated the match from the first half. With this draw, Liverpool had to drop to 2nd place but yeah Liverpool has a chance to take over the standings when the two teams have to fight each other on December 24, I hope Liverpool as the home team does not waste this opportunity or they will find it increasingly difficult to retake first place.
Liverpool disappointed lots of people. Most people were expecting a win from them in the match, but to my greatest surprise, they dominated the match but they couldn’t score. What most people needed in the match was a win from Liverpool. A higher percentage of people placed a bet on Liverpool to win the match. Most people will be losing their bet just because of the draw that Liverpool played yesterday.
Yeah that sucks to see that liverpool was getting draw. Im sure that if many people were taking the result from the last season as their data to bet on liverpool in the last game. Liverpool got many chances but it was not even able scoring a single goal against mancheter united.
This is also the main reason ten hag has been praising his team. The exceptional performance of the defensive line of Manchester United during the game, where they successfully blocked numerous attacks from Liverpool, is the main cause of this.

The cost for Liverpool to bear is quite steep, as they were unable to emerge victorious in the game against Manchester United, resulting in the loss of 2 crucial points. Arsenal took the lead again after it was getting perfect ersult.
Any points are very crucial to determine how big the chance owned by the club to take the EPL trophy this season. We are still far away from the end of season. There was enough time for liverpool to take the first position again.
Arsenal is quite strong and consistent. The gunners were starting to praise havertz coz his performance. Those fans were blaming him in the past, but they are changing his mind again.

It's such unacceptable result for liverpool.

779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 18, 2023, 03:30:09 PM
The europa league draw is done and dusted as the 3rd placed team from the uefa champions league is pitted to face the europa league group stage runners up. Its a super draw and i am eager to learn and know which tie you look forward to the most??

I think Sharktar Donesk vs Marseille will be an interesting tie


Shitt!, roma was facing a difficult opponent. Feyenoord was not performing so perfect in UCL as it was only able getting 1 win and 1 draw but it's going to face roma. Jose mourinho needs to be carefulw ith feyenoord. Even though it was not that strong during the UCL group stage but it's worthy to get more attention from roma. Rennes should become the unluckiest team in this draw as it was facing a strong team from the very difficult group of UCL. Glad to see that acmilan gets a weak team as its opponent.
Im sure acmilan will make it to beat rennes easily without a tough game between both of clubs. Donesk was really underrated club in the UCL group stage. Marseille was not in its best position.
Shakhtar has a chance to go to the next round coz it was only facing a weak club like marseille. As i said above that if rennes has become the unlickiest team in this draw. It was getting a fucken strong opponent like acmilan.
Im feeling so bad for rennes. It was not a lucky draw for this club. Other matches seem ok to predict right now.
780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 18, 2023, 03:04:03 PM
Girona Vs Alaves
Girona are certainly showing their strength with great performances in La Liga this season. Their latest win against Barcelona is a testament to their quality. Looks like they will continue their great run. Although Girona have played one less match and have a one-point gap with Real Madrid, Girona can go to the top of the points table in today's match. Alaves, on the other hand, haven't had the best start to their season, but have shown signs of improvement in recent weeks. But facing Girona will be a tough challenge for them. Girona are clear favorites for me in today's matchup. I think Girona can beat Alaves  win 3-1.
The match against Alaves should be a match that Girona will easily overcome because when they can overcome Barcelona very convincingly it proves that they are a team that has very good playing quality, especially as Alaves, as you said, is a team that is performing badly this season, the score is 3-1 like your prediction could be the final score of this match, but seeing as Alaves has poor statistics in scoring goals, it is very possible that Girona can win without conceding a goal, and Girona will maximize this match to score as many goals as possible and take over the top of the standings again from their rivals Real Madrid, and tries to maintain the point difference from his competitors.
@1.59 for girona to play at home against alaves. I would definitely bet on girona rather than alaves. Alaves became very inconsistent at this moment. It's the best choice for now as girona has been favoring to beat alaves.
Let's also mention the result from previous match. Girona was able humiliating barcelona with good scores and im sure girona will be repeating it again. It's caused girona needs to take the first place again from real madrid which has been passing the 17th match with perfect result. It's time for girona to show it again.

Girona is likely getting another good result again alaves. Alaves was a weak team and i see no problem will be facing by girona to beat it soon.
Im sure girona will be dominating the match and it's a sense choice to pick girona to win the game compared to the alaves soon.
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