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761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 19, 2023, 02:30:11 PM
Onana is over rated because he has better passing skills than De Gea but in general, combining all skills of a goalkeeper, I think he is not a better goalkeeper than De Gea. Hopefully Ten Hag will not have to pay an expensive cost by his coach position because of his belief in Onana.
I keep hearing that Onana is good with his feet and that he can pass the ball, but TBH i don't see that when i watch Manchester United's games, he is average in his usage of his feet and his passing accuracy, he is nothing close to the likes of Ederson of City and Allison of Liverpool when it comes to passing accuracy.
It is also worth noting that Onana has lost some amount of confidence since he joined Manchester United. And this has affected everything about his performance. If we take a look at his performance in Inter Milan, I don't think we would doubt that the Cameroonian international is very good with his feet. As the Manchester United squad keeps improving we might also see Onana giving that his masterclass passes..

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That being said, Onana is not a great goalkeeper IMO, average at best, and i think United made a mistake letting De Gea go, the Spanish keeper is better than Onana, De Gea makes unbelievable saves, even though he makes quite a few mistakes too, as for Onana, he doesn't make great saves, but still makes mistakes leading to goals; i'll take De Gea anyday.
Manchester United is going through a lot of problems and we cannot say that its players are having a good time. When a team is not doing well, it is the goalkeeper that most times bears the negative effect. Onana is still young and needs more time to gain experience and exposure. De Gea is 33 and has played more games than the 27-year-old Onana. I still have confidence that Onana will soon get used to the EPL and United will know that his signing is not a blunder.
762  Economy / Economics / Re: When Was the Last Time you Came Across a Positive Economic News? on: November 19, 2023, 02:10:14 PM
I find myself pretty bothered by everything going on in the world. Have you ever noticed how it's so hard to come across positive news about the economy, whether it's in our own country or globally? It's genuinely disheartening. Every time we read, watch, or discuss something related to the economy, it's all about inflation, recession, debt, bankruptcy, companies downsizing, laying off hundreds of workers, shareholders firing CEOs, and the company's stock taking a nosedive. Can't we just catch a break and have some good economic news for once?
Negative news gets more attention than good news. Newspapers like using it for headlines to attract more people to the news outlets. But you don't have to bother with this news because you might become paranoid or even depressed. Economic news is my best section because it helps me to plan how to use my finances and could also serve as a platform for business ideas. It matters less to me if a company sacks its CEO, I don't care if Sam Altman was sacked by OpenAI because he is rich and will son get a new job.

I think it is more fearful to visit the political section of world news than economic news. The news of wars, natural disasters, and coups matters more to me than that of business issues. It is now popular to see pictures of death, destruction, and suffering in news headlines globally.
763  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin really too Expensive? Then Buy Satoshis on: November 19, 2023, 08:08:22 AM
Start investing in satoshi today, if you are too poor, buy and hold atleast, 2,000,000 satoshis worth $732 today, and be very patient.
People spend money on things like cigarettes, junk, and other unnecessary expenses. Such funds can be channeled to buying satoshis as OP has stated. But we shouldn't expect these purchases to bring high profit within a short period. It should just be seen as a means of saving money because the profit will not be as big as someone who used a lump sum with more funds.

Don’t get me wrong but this is certainly a huge wish which might be almost impossible in the near future. One satoshi equaling a dollar means that one bitcoin will be $100,000,000 which is such a higher number that even if the mining stops and bitcoin becomes scarce will be rare to have it at that price.
We cannot predict the future so we cannot say it is impossible. Maybe this could be a good way of saving money for your children. Even if the price doesn't get to the price in our lifetime, our children might be lucky to enjoy the benefits in the future.
764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 19, 2023, 07:29:49 AM
The news of Vinicius Jnr's injury is a big blow to Real Madrid considering the importance of the Brazilian to the Real Madrid squad. From the reports so far, it's reported that's he's expected to be sidelined till the end of the year which means that the club manager will be using Joselu as his current replacement using the club's current formation.
If Real Madrid must contend for a serious title this season, they must sign few more forward players during the January transfer window because the club's failure to land a replacement for their former captain Karim Benzema has really affected their performance this season
I am sure club managers will always be scared each time players are released for international duties. Some of these international games are played in substandard stadiums which could increase the chances of injuries. Some countries also lack quality medical teams that can assist players in times of health needs. Some of these games are so physical and rugged that players become victims of avoidable injuries. I don't blame some coaches who sometimes stop players from honoring national invitations.

It seems this current international break is becoming a disaster for Real Madrid. Eduardo Camavinga will be out for about ten weeks after he ruptured the external lateral ligament of his right knee. Now will be out for about two months after suffering a hamstring tear. Real will be having a busy schedule with seven matches to play before the end of the year. With the absence of important players like Camavinga, Bellingham, Tchouamen, and Vinicius Junior, Real might have a very difficult run after the break.
765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever Thought of Giving Back to the Community? on: November 19, 2023, 07:00:01 AM
Have you ever thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run? One of those punters on X, who usually wins large sums of money from betting, is giving out about 25 laptops to folks who cannot afford them, and he recently paid for someone's cybersecurity online course. Do you think this is something that you can do—give back to the community from your gambling runs?
- https://twitter.com/mrbayoa1/status/1724168941931499884?t=1IglCrSnRsi-LZxxy6WHMQ&s=19
I read a story recently of a man who won big and had to locate one student who lost his school fees in gambling. This man gave the boy back his school fees and this drew commendation from the community. There is suffering caused by poverty all over the world and these people need help. I am pleased to see people give to the community from what they have earned.

 If I ever get lucky to win big, giving back to my community will be part of my budget. After I have settled my immediate needs and assisted my family members who need help, my community will be the next in the budget. But mine will be to build a primary school with a library because the school in my community is overcrowded. There are not enough classroom blocks to contain the number of pupils.
766  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoins on: November 18, 2023, 10:48:42 PM
As we look forward to the anticipated bullrun come 2024, what altcoins are you holding and why do you think they will bring more returns compared to others?
The profits some traders are making from altcoin could be very attractive. But we have to also recognize that the altcoin business terrain is highly volatile. As a newcomer in the crypto space, I have not acquired the requisite knowledge to trade on these altcoins which is why I am only focusing on Bitcoin. A friend of mine just told me how he made some good money a few days ago on altcoins and I told him that I am not interested now because I want to move gradually from the known to the unknown.

Don't be carried away by the profits people make in altcoins because many people have also lost fortunes trading on them. The bull run also comes with an increase in scam projects, that is the reason why I am only concerned with the project I am sure of which is Bitcoin. But anybody who understands the altcoin sector and is willing to bear the risk is welcome to invest as he/she pleases.
767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you in profit? on: November 18, 2023, 09:20:30 PM
I have noticed some individuals claiming to be successful in gambling.
but, my personal experience with online gambling platform over the past 8 months has been consistently unprofitable
I haven't broken even or made any gains. I'm curious if anyone in our community has actually achieved profitability through gambling. If yes, we can calculate that how much percentage of us are profitable.
I know most of the people pay to win and deposit to recover previous losses.
I have been privileged to gamble with small funds only and these few months have been very favorable. This year have gotten some wins that assisted me in meeting some basic needs. My answer will be YES  because my estimated wins exceed the money I have put into gambling.

Yeah, It's super annoying hearing people brag about how much money they've made gambling.  But for most of us it's more like we just keep losing over and over lol. 
From my observation, I think people talk about losses more than wins. Maybe they keep it secret to avoid unnecessary attention from friends, family, or even criminals. Most people I have seen who brag about wins do that to either promote the gambling firm or for other ulterior motives.
768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Letting the cat out of the bag on: November 18, 2023, 08:41:30 PM
If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.

We should know that gambling is not for the underaged so we have to identify that we are dealing with adults. Every adult knows what is good or bad for him or her and we should always respect people's privacy. You don't have the right to intrude in someone's personal life until you are invited or you have clear evidence that such a person needs help. 

Most gambling addicts don't always accept or believe that they are addicted or need help. And even they know about their problem they tend to keep it to themselves because of societal stigma. People always see gambling addicts as untrustworthy even when they are free from addiction. This is why some of them prefer to die in silence. Some of them might also keep it secret because they don't trust anyone and there is no counselor or addiction therapist in their location.

But I will always tell people suffering from gambling disorders to seek help from reliable friends, family, or trained personnel. They shouldn't be ashamed of stigma or discrimination because their health is more important than the shame they are avoiding. They can also seek help online if they want to protect their privacy. We should also help these challenged people anytime they come to us for any form of assistance that will make them break free from addiction.
769  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The people from Bitciontalk are a good company to keep. on: November 18, 2023, 08:12:18 PM
The company you keep has a lot of effect on you. Many Investors who are also forum members would have stopped investing a long time ago or become inconsistent and uncommitted with their investment if they were not in this forum. There is something about being together with people with the same interest you have that I have noticed, their commitment can always motivate you when you feel like giving up, and help you make more stable decisions. Many investors who are not forum members will be finding it difficult to maintain their seriousness to invest regularly because they are doing things on their own. If many of those investors find this forum, it will be very valuable for them.
People join platforms for different reasons but if you intend to learn about Bitcoin, then bitcointalk is the best forum to be. Some of the members here have a wealth of experience that is valuable. There is nothing about Bitcoin that has not been discussed on this forum. I will say that the forum is an encyclopedia of the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Without this forum, many members would have been victims of scams because there is much misinformation on the internet. Many people would have invested in scam projects and lost money. This forum has also assisted many in learning about Investing in Bitcoin. If not for this platform people would have been driven by FUD to sell their coins. One will always get the right answers and the best motivation to keep holding regardless of the uncertainties that are out there.
770  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Events that lead to the adoption of a spot Bitcoin ETF on: November 18, 2023, 04:22:25 PM
Kevin O'Leary Warns Spot Bitcoin ETF Approval Could Be 18 Months Away
Shark Tank investor Kevin O’Leary, aka Mr. Wonderful, has cautioned that it could take another year and a half for the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to approve a spot bitcoin exchange-traded fund (ETF). He emphasized that we will not see a spot bitcoin ETF in the U.S. until there is a crypto exchange that’s compliant with the SEC.
I believe Kevin O’Leary is right because the government will always want to ensure that there are regulations that will give it total control over the ETF. Approving what you cannot control is like buying a car that you cannot drive. But I doubt if it will take up to one year and six months for such approval.  

There are already existing laws that will help the SEC to control crypto-related business to some extent. The SEC should not expect to have perfect regulatory laws for the ETF because it is new to the US market. More laws will be made after the approval based on new developments. The SEC has also lost some court cases that might force them to do the needful before the time frame predicted by Kevin O’Leary.
771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can a mega winner say no to public presentation? on: November 17, 2023, 07:57:46 PM
I created this topic as a result of this news, a young Ghanaian man won 6,000,000 GHC ($501,664) with a bet of 40 GHC. This happened few days ago and it trended on social media. Some of the comments from netizens are that the young man should leave Ghana to avoid being robbed or poisoned.

I know some of us must have seen the formal presentation of a mega winner to the public by a gambling platform. Most times, these bookies invite media outlets to their offices to cover the ceremony, so that the news could be captured on newspapers, tv, internet etc. My questions are...  Can a bettor reject being unveiled to the public? Are gambling platforms paying an extra money for the publicity?
Gambling firms always use the opportunity of big wins to advertise the company. It serves as a good avenue to tell the public that one can win big if you place a bet with them. Rejecting such public displays will depend on the laws of the country and the terms of service of the betting firm.

I read some of the comments from the website the OP gave and some persons were saying they winner of the bet would have worn a mask for such a presentation because it would be dangerous to display that you own such an amount in Ghana or any developing nation. These nations don't have adequate security and poverty and unemployment have led to an increase in crime. This winner no doubt is now a target for many criminals. And this young man went to the extent of coming with his family members which makes his security situation more complicated.

I don't know if these betting firms pay extra money for this display but I would prefer to accept some deductions from the win me to avoid such risky public display. Alternatively, I can put on a face mask if it is compulsory to attend such an event. If they restrict me from covering my identity, then I will go alone and immediately relocate to another country where I am unknown.
772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The most important thing in a betting site on: November 17, 2023, 07:10:25 PM
So, what's the number one thing on your list?
The choice of payment options matters to me. I want to bet with a casino that has a variety of payment options. They should have options to pay in both fiat and reliable cryptocurrencies. A betting site that has an active live chat support system will always attract me. Having difficulties with your casino account could be frustrating but an active support system will help reduce the tension and also assist in rectifying any issue of concern.

I also appreciate casinos that are reliable and abide strictly by their term of service. Casinos asking for advanced KYC after promising never to ask for it can be discouraging. The crypto space is very volatile so casinos that allow for fast and easy withdrawal will be highly appreciated. Another important factor is the variety of games the casino can boast of. Casinos or betting sites that have diverse games will always attract more gamblers including me.
773  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The SEC Struggles to Recruit Crypto Experts, Report Says on: November 16, 2023, 09:04:16 AM
I am just wondering why they want these proposed workers to obey the mandate to divest while the US government is holding large sums of cryptocurrencies. Does it mean that the current staff of the SEC are mandated not to own crypto or is this law limited to only these new recruits? Maybe these proposed applicants have special tasks to accomplish that require them not to hold cryptos.   
Typically, laws apply to all employees of an organization. Even if, perhaps, the possession of cryptocurrencies was not prohibited before, then after such a rule is introduced, all employees are required to comply with it. I don't know what about the cleaners or the security guards. But I'm more interested in what can be said about the conflict of interest between close relatives.
The SEC might end up losing more employees if the new law is forced on old employees. This is because some of them might resign since they will not want to dispose of their cryptocurrencies. This directive will be difficult to implement considering the pseudonymous of cryptocurrencies. I am also interested in how the SEC intends to manage or control how close family members of such employees will deal with crypto.

That will be the biggest question on how they will define what "crypto experts" means, maybe here in our community or any other crypto community, they might have a different meaning for them. And even up to this day, we could have been debating the meaning of that and because it encompass a broader subject. Could be in terms of laws, or they could be looking as somewhat we can see a possible crypto scams and others.

So it's a very broad subject and maybe that's why they have a hard time finding the right now and there is actually no real experts in this field as it is generally fairly young. So they will have to set everything by precedent and it could be some mistakes by this so called experts as far as decision making is.

The job specification will determine how the organization will define the word "crypto expert". If an applicant possesses the skills that are needed to perform the specified task, then he could be classified as an expert because he can accomplish the task.
774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler's family action. on: November 16, 2023, 08:19:09 AM
9 out 10, if a gambler won a lot of money, they will come back and play for more, resulting to a big lost. So I doubt that it will crossed his mind to share his winnings, but instead what in his mind is to continue to gamble again until he lose all that money.
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.
Many people around me have made such mistakes when they win big. There is a case of a gambler who won about $50,000 and lost the entire money the same day because he lost control. But this doesn't erase the fact that many gamblers have maximized the money they won. One of my friends was able to achieve his lifelong dream of schooling at a European University after he won big. I suggest that every gambler should have a plan on how to use big wins and not waste them on luxury or lose them back. Big wins come a few times in a lifetime, hence we should be set to utilize these wins.

But when the gambler still thinks about his family and still makes family the most valuable thing, it is possible that he will definitely share the winnings with people he loves or buy some valuable things for them.
Even though these people reject the gambling they do, when they receive whatever they are given from the winnings, there is definitely feeling of gratitude and emotion because the gambler still cares about them and has forgotten what happened.
Assisting family members who have needs from a big win is not a bad idea.  Such support will make them know that gambling can sometimes be profitable. This might help to change the perception of some members of society that see gambling as immoral. I have an idea now to drill a water borehole in my rural community whenever I get a big win and I will inform the elders of the community that I got the money from gambling. It will help to reduce the negative view to hold against gamblers.
775  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and War Crimes? on: November 16, 2023, 07:36:26 AM
Crypto is a stock market and also it can be affected by some wars and pandemic like situations. So I will say that Currently going wars with Gaza ( PALAESTINE) and Israel War. In long term situation and as there are high chances of spreading of war to whole middle eat. Will bitcoin market go on crash mood because last time was coronavirus.
What are your thoughts?
I think that could be the reason of the crash.
I don't know how you concluded that there is a high chance of the war escalating to other countries. I know that many countries are gunning for peace and I don't think anyone has the intention to join the war openly. The war in Ukraine affected the global economy because of the increase in the price of crude, gas, grains, and other essential commodities.  This harmed the global economy and bitcoin price was also affected because just like every bitcoin is connected to the global financial system.

But if the war spreads to other parts of the Middle East it will lead to the disruption of the sale and transportation of oil and gas which lead to a shortage in supply. Limited supply will lead to an increase in the cost of electricity and many economies will face inflation and other negative consequences. I don't think the impact of this situation will be as bad as that of COVID-19 because nations can always seek alternatives for oil and supply but the pandemic led to the total shutdown of the global economy.

I don't believe that Bitcoin will crash, the right language should be a decline or drop in price and the currency has the tradition of recovering after some time.
776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 16, 2023, 07:05:57 AM
I feel it's not a problem of adapting to the English Premier League and if I'm not mistaken, Joao Felix actually wants to stay at Chelsea and he feels comfortable there, but Chelsea's decision not to extend his loan period is an obstacle for him. Moreover, he also didn't want to return to Atletico which made things even more complicated, but fortunately a team like Barcelona wanted to come with a loan offer so he didn't have to think long about accepting the offer.

Now Joao Felix has expressed his interest in staying longer in his dream team and is now just waiting for Barcelona to decide whether they are able to make the transfer permanent or not. It would be another misfortune for Joao Felix if he doesn't get a permanent deal and has to return to Atletico.
Joao Felix is a player tipped to be one of the best strikers in the world. His days in Benfica were glorious but his performance reduced drastically when he moved to Atletico Madrid for a record fee.  He never adapted to the club's style of play and fell off with the coach Diego Simeone which made him move to Chelsea on loan. He has so many opportunities to make an impact on the team but he also failed to live up to expectations.

Xavi gave him the lifeline to rejuvenate his career in Barca and he was performing well as he scored three goals and gave three assists in fourteen games. Joao's main problem is inconsistency in his performance but it all depends on Xavi and the management of Barcelona to decide if he will be signed on a permanent deal. But Atletico Madrid will not let him go for free because they are known for making money from player transfers.

Going back to Atletico is not an option for the Portugal players because it is glary that he is not in Coach Diego's plans. He indicated that the player has failed to blend with the team and has also refused to abide by the tactical plans of the coaching crew. He even alleged that Atletico's fans don't like Joao Felix and he would be pleased if he secured a permanent deal with Barcelona.
777  Economy / Economics / Re: How to survive hyperinflation? on: November 15, 2023, 03:41:22 PM
Of course, before that happens, we have to prepare ourselves to protect our money so that it is not eroded by inflation. we switch to buying assets that tend to be more stable, which are better known, namely gold, of course hyperinflation where conditions are much worse than inflation, Before that happens, we should get used to living frugally according to our capacity and try to create new additional income. This method means we don't have to rely on just one income.

If you want a safer and less risky area to keep your money during inflation, gold, property and government bonds would be ideal. These investments have lesser risk but have lower profit. But if you want to make some profit and also hedge your funds against inflation, investing in Bitcoin will be ideal. However, the risk of investing in Bitcoin is greater than established investment platforms like gold and real estate.

Apart from a steady DCA investment strategy which would require much discipline during this time, one good way to survive hyperinflation is to stock up on household groceries, toiletries and and other comfort that would make the saving or investment process easy to bear. Also is to limit gambling and indulgence in habits that consume much like smoking, drinking, daily.
Further more, buying resellable items cheaper from willing to sell individuals would also be one save up or survive hyperinflation successfully.

The option of socking house with food is a good one but it will depend on how long the inflation will last. Sometimes the price of basic products keep increasing consistently for several months or years so these household item might not sustain the house before the end of the inflation. The best option will be consistently buying goods in bulk from wholesalers instead of patronizing retailers who sell higher. Another option could also be growing your food if you have farmland.
778  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi were here, what question would you ask about the future of Bitcoin on: November 15, 2023, 12:13:34 PM
There should be others so I feel we can make this a discussion while I expect answers from those who have.
With all due respect, the Bitcoin project is now bigger than Satoshi. Every day the Bitcoin industry is facing new threats and opportunities due to the everchanging political, economic, and social global systems. The currency has become very influential, complex, and dynamic for Satoshi to control or predict. I believe that he would have the same answers as some of the reputable members of the forum. Satoshi might not have envisaged that issues like ordinals would be a challenge because these are new threats. The future will still come with more issues that will test the strength of Bitcoin. I don't think I have any questions, if there are any, the forum is enough to answer them.
779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you want to play on casinos without KYC requirements? on: November 15, 2023, 09:40:19 AM
Does this really works? I mean how can this work properly, if a person is asked to pass KYC only after he wins and tries to withdraw his balance. I have never seen a casino sending funds back, because they were transferred from some kind of a "grey" wallet. I have never seen any casino refusing to accept gamblers' funds because the origin of the funds is questionable.
That's true! If the casino is comfortable with people depositing lots of money and will not demand KYC, why would they ask for it after a win and withdrawal request? I know many nations or regulators mandate casinos to enforce KYC policies but some casinos are taking advantage of it. They will use the KYC to fraudulently delay payment and sometimes freeze customer's funds. Doesn't it mean that the funds become tinted only when they are coming out of the casino

It does not matter how you look at it, KYC verification is inevitable. Let's look at how KYC are enforced and when it happens to understand this. Example : A casino will start out small with virtually a few hundred gamblers and they want to stand out from their competition, so they announce that they do not ask for KYC verification.

This goes on for a few years and they gain MANY gamblers, but as they grow... regulators start to notice them and they track them down and confront them with options... "either implement KYC or get shutdown" .... so suddenly you see sites with no KYC requirements, starting to ask for people to verify their identity.

So in conclusion : They start with No KYC requirements and are then forced to implement it.  Roll Eyes 
Using no KYC as a business strategy to attract customers is not bad. But it is important to give your clients a long time notice before changing the casino policy. You shouldn't assure gamblers that they don't need KYC but when it is time to withdraw a big win, you start asking for KYC. Let everything the gambler needs to know be in your terms of service, there should be no hidden terms.
780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: November 15, 2023, 09:02:48 AM
I think financing a gambler is fine but it needs an accurate tracking record to know if a gambler has a potential of majority winning and losing so that you will have a basis on how much yoi are able to fund a gambler, Im not deep when it comes to this thing but I think it needs a legal agreement and both sides will agree on the terms and conditions of a funder.

I see your point and yes if the gambler is really good but make sure that you are willing to risk your money, even how good the gambler was
the venue is gambling and there's no assurance that he can always win.

Maybe is some sessions he can win but if emotion beat him up expect that he will lose his temper and eventually lose all the money he got, it's more practical to use your money in other investment or play the money on your own.

Win or lose it will be your decision and nothing will be blame if things went wrong.
The outcome of gambling is unpredictable but there are indeed people that have track records of more wins than losses. But be sure that you can take these risks and bet only what you can afford to lose. While growing up I have seen people finance gamblers to win games. This is common in physical football games and table tennis. This happens when you believe that the gambler can win the bet. As a witness of such experience, I have seen many people win bets and also lose. This is because there is no assurance that somebody will win the game.

My example will be the last World Cup in Qatar. Even if you have someone who has a track record in betting, I think many of them would have failed to bet that Saudi Arabia will win Argentina. Considering the record of Tyson Fury many great boxing stakers wouldn't have predicted that Francis Ngannou would give the world champion a great fight.

I don't know the kind of legal document that will be signed between both parties. Would it be that the gambler will pay back the money the financier invested if the game is lost? I am sure the gambler will never want to lose bets it's just that gambling is unpredictable. I don't think there are any legal grounds for an agreement except in the case of the sharing formula for wins.
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