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761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: October 11, 2017, 09:34:07 PM
La liga will start again the next week end after very the FIFA. Players are tired after hard matchs. Players of fc bacelona have generaly guaranteed their qualification with their national teams. A hard match is waiting Barca against Athletico Madrid. Messi and his friends are looking for their successive win to continue leading la Liga.p
I think barca will win this match, since lionnel messi is extremly angry following the catastrophic results of his national team and the vulgar criticism of the media, so he will make barca win the match and show the world again that he is the best player in the world always and forever.
a Messi will not be the best player in the world if he is not helped by his teammates to show his quality because although football is a game of 11 people, so if Messi alone maybe he will not be anyone in this world. we know Barcelona is filled with world-class players so maybe every game they always demanded to give a win for his team, and I'm sure Barcelona will continue to maintain the consistency of his victory in every game.
team compactness I think is the main one,
because rarely players who have good teamwork,
messi able to maintain the cohesiveness of his team and can play well with his team.
sometimes a lot of players who have good quality but they have a tall ego attitude,
this is what makes the difference between messi and other players and this also can make messi become one of the best players in the world.
sometimes the player's selfish attitude that makes him a less shining player

this week, there is the first direct clash of the season: At Madrid vs Barcelona.
I think the At. Madrid can stop the series of consecutive victories in Barcelona in Liga. If Barcelona also wins this match it would eliminate 1 opponent (+9 at atmadrid) and put a serious mortgage on the Liga's victory this year!
Suarez, Messi and Griezmann with their goals have qualified their teams at the next world cup, we will see if they will score in the match
762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 11, 2017, 09:18:29 PM
This week the big match is surely Liverpool vs Manchester United!
Liverpool at home is very strong and against top teams is always very focused.
I expect a draw (last year 0-0 and 1-1).
Of this direct clash he can take advantage of Manchester City (against Stoke),Chelsea (against Cristal Palace) and Totthenam (against Bournemouth),
instead, Arsenal has a hard match away against Watford
763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction ligue 1, france football league on: October 11, 2017, 09:05:20 PM
Amazing the Nantes of Ranieri, with only 6 goals scored he has already won 5 matches and made 16 points in just 8 games played.
Ranieri is ready for a new miracle this year, let's see if he can bring his Nantes to Champion's League!

I know Ranieri is still a reliable manager, he is still a great manager and I still regret the decision of Leicester City who fired him last season. I think at that time Ranieri was just in a bad season, but they did not forgive, but Ranieri is the most meritorious in the history of the club. Anyway, now Ranieri is in France and I am also looking forward to another miracle of him after a good start in France.

Ranieri is a great coach and is surely underestimated.
It was a big mistake to kick it out! with few players and without Kante he also had to play the champion's league where he also qualified for the eighth-final.
Unfortunately there is little gratitude in football, but Ranieri will remain in the story for his miracle, we will see if in the future if he will do some miracles!
764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 World Cup qualifications, UEFA zone, discussion and information thread on: October 11, 2017, 08:53:07 PM
here are the 8 European teams that will play the playoffs (the 4 best teams in the ranking will play against the 4 worst ranked)

Switzerland (1134 points)
Italy             (1065 points)
Croatia         (1012 points)
Denmark      (1001 points)

Sweden               (872 ponts)
Northern Ireland (889 points)
Ireland                 (866 points)
Greece                 (681 ponts)

the playoffs will be drawn on October 17, while the matches will be played in November
765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 11, 2017, 08:41:10 PM
This week there are 3 amazing matches among the top 6 teams in the standings:
Juventus vs Lazio, Inter vs AC Milan, Roma vs Napoli!

These 3 matches will make us understand who the real favorites are for winning the Serie A, and who can qualify for the next champion's league (4 teams)
766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: October 11, 2017, 08:36:05 PM
Here are the eighths-final of the atp 1000 tournament in Shanghai:

Nadal vs Fognini
Querrey vs Dimitrov

Cilic vs Jonhson
Struff vs Ramos

Troicky vs Isner
Del Potro vs A.Zverev

Simon vs Gasquet
Federer vs Dolgopolov


Interesting the match between Del Potro and A.Zverev
Nadal, Cilic and Federer have an easy draw to the semifinals.
767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: International Games Prediction Thread on: October 11, 2017, 08:26:57 PM
here are the 23 of 32 teams already qualified for the next 2018 World Cup in Russia:

Europa 10: Russia,England,Spain,Germany, Iceland, France,Portugal,Serbia,Poland,Belgium
South America 4: Brazil,Argentina,Uruguay,Colombia
Asia 4: Iran, South Korea, Japan, Saudi Arabia
Concacaf 3: Mexico,Costa Rica,Panama
Africa 2: Egypt,Nigeria


surprising Panama and Iceland!
already delightfully eliminated: USA, Chile, Holland



768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 11, 2017, 08:12:55 PM
Standings Drivers after 16 of 20 races:

1.Hamilton        306     gap
2.Vettel              247     -59
3.Bottas             234     -72
4.Ricciardo         192   -114
5.Raikkonen      148    -158
6.Verstappen      111   -195
7.Perez                 82    -224
8.Ocon                  65    -241
9.Sainz                  48    -258
10.Hulkenberg      34    -272
10.Massa               34    -272


Standings Teams after 16 of 20 races:

1.Mercedes    540   gap
2.Ferrari         395   -145
3.Red Bull      303 
4.Force India  147
5.Williams       66
6.Toro Rosso    52
7.Haas             43
8.Haas             42
9.McLaren        23
10.Sauber          5

Both world championships are closed, Mercedes could win them both already in the next Gp of USA in Austin on 22 october.
Ferrari at the crucial time of the season lost its reliability by compromising the world championship that it could finally win this year.

769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: October 06, 2017, 01:12:43 PM
here are the semifinals of the 2 Asian Tournaments atp500:

Beijing Tournament:
Nadal vs Dimitrov
Kyrgios vs A.Zverev

Tokyo Tournament:
Cilic vs Mannarino
Goffin vs Scwartzman

My favorites are Nadal and Cilic
770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: October 06, 2017, 11:45:50 AM
Barcelona has just announced that Andreas Iniesta has signed a lifetime contract and will be part of the company even after he has stopped playing!
Great news for a great player and for a Barcelona icon!
finally, the rumors of his transfer to another team are denied!

Many players, however, are leaving in Januar: Paco Alcacer, Rafinha, Delofeu, Andre Gomes
771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: October 06, 2017, 08:59:34 AM
what is Catalonia Referendum means ?
Catalonia referendum come from the referendum which taking place nowadays in Catalonia which is an autonomous Community in spain.
While referendum is a form of elections,furthermore , its objective in not the choice between different persons, but to answer a question given by "yes" or "no", which is in this case "are you agree with the independence of Catalonia from Spain ?".
well we wish them all the best but that shouldn't be mixed with our game. we should know where to draw the line between sports and politics and we'd be fine. I wish barcelona even if they do separate from spain should still partake in the la liga so that we don't loose the excitement.
There are limits to all things, and I think that the limit of the sport is politics, really to interpolate these two is the real disorder.
Otherwise we all agree, the football fans, that if barca leaves the liga it will miss its taste, its classico, and the historic competition between the first two club in the world.


the Liga without Barcelona would not make sense and lose all its appeal!
this will never happen because there are too many economic interests and the abandonment of Barcelona would be catastrophic for itself and for the whole of Spanish football.
772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 06, 2017, 08:52:21 AM
One exciting scenario that could happen on the summer transfer window of 2018.  This could be a little too farfetched but bear with me...

Messi still hasn't signed Barca's new offer and his most likely destination if he leaves is Man City to reunite with Pep.  And what would be Mourinho's answer to this?  They will bid for the other Argentinian who's dubbed as the 'next Messi':  Dybala.  With Man United's financial power, I think they could acquire him.

What do you guys think?



I think Messi is an icon of Barcelona and should end his career with Barcelona.
He will reach the 100 goals in the champion's league(96 goals scored at this time) this year and I am convinced he will also reach 500 goals in Liga( 360 goals scored at this time).
If Messi goes away, Barcelona will reinvest the money for Dybala,
so we will hardly see both of them in Manchester, though it would be really intriguing.
773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 World Cup qualifications, UEFA zone, discussion and information thread on: October 06, 2017, 08:16:24 AM
today there may be another 2 probable qualifiers in European teams, in fact if Spain (at home against Albania) and Serbia (away against Hungary) will win their matches will be mathematically qualified.

the most interesting game today is surely Turkey vs Iceland, almost a shootout in Group I where the first 4 teams are enclosed in just 2 points (the others teams are Ukraina and Croatia)
774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: International Games Prediction Thread on: October 06, 2017, 08:02:38 AM
conmebol zone, very competitve world cup qualification
and im not believe argentina with messi this now 6 rank placed, ussualy argentina and brazil always top rank in conmebol zone

today meet peru, and october 11 meet ecuador, if bad result must say world cup without argentina and messi

lmao as I expected Argentina is really sucks even with Messi, they can't make any goals and bad at finishing.

If there is still Messi on the squad, Argentina will never get any success in any competitions lol. He can contribute so great at Barcelona but he cant do it with his National Team. The coach should make change, at least try to replace Messi with other players and lets see what will happen. I'm so shocked to know that the coach did not even try to put send Dyabala on while they get difficulty in scoring goals.

their main problem is the finishing, don't know why argentina is so hard to make a goal

another disastrous result of Argentina that even this time did not make any goals (really absurd the problem of scoring goals when they have players like Aguero, Messi, Higuain, Icardi, Di Maria, Dybala etc).
Now Argentina must win against Ecuador to get to the top 5 positions.
Harakiri for Colombia, who until 88 'wins 1-0 and was mathematically qualified, but in the final minutes of the game  lost 2-1 and now rises clamorously to be eliminated.

Analyzing the group:

-Uruguay: is 99.9% qualified (against Bolivia, who lost all the games played away, only one point is enough, but also losing has a significantly better goal difference than his opponents

-Chile: ,who will play away against Brazil, if  wins is qualified, if  draws comes in top 5, if  loses it is likely to be eliminated.

-Perω/Colombia: direct clash between these two teams
If Colombia wins is qualified, if Peru wins enter the top 5. If they make a draw, Colombia comes in top 5

-Argentina: must win, to enter the top 5.


I think the top 5 teams will be:
Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, Colombia, Chile
775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 06, 2017, 07:30:06 AM
FP1 results from this morning.  This really doesn't say much and it's expected that Ferrari and Merc would be quick with RBR trailing them.  Let's see what develops on FP2 and FP3 and who finds the right balance for their car.

2017 Japanese GP FP1 Times

1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1’29.166 23
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1’29.377 0.211 29
3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-TAG Heuer 1’29.541 0.375 27
4 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1’29.638 0.472 22
5 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1’30.151 0.985 30
6 Max Verstappen Red Bull-TAG Heuer 1’30.762 1.596 26
7 Esteban Ocon Force India-Mercedes 1’30.899 1.733 22
8 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1’30.974 1.808 24
9 Romain Grosjean Haas-Ferrari 1’31.032 1.866 22
10 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren-Honda 1’31.202 2.036 24
11 Kevin Magnussen Haas-Ferrari 1’31.216 2.050 15
12 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Honda 1’31.235 2.069 19
13 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1’31.530 2.364 23
14 Lance Stroll Williams-Mercedes 1’31.602 2.436 22
15 Jolyon Palmer Renault 1’31.757 2.591 22
16 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1’31.912 2.746 20
17 Carlos Sainz Jnr Toro Rosso-Renault 1’32.252 3.086 14
18 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso-Renault 1’32.501 3.335 18
19 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber-Ferrari 1’32.897 3.731 29
20 arcus Ericsson Sauber-Ferrari 1’33.397 4.231 28

Edit:  FP2 is live now.  Conditions are wet.  Sad

Vettel and Hamilton seem very close, we hope to see a great duel in the race.
Yes, the second session was wet and only 5 cars made laps. Sainz had an accident and will have a penalty of 20 positions.

Tomorrow the third free practice session should be wet, instead the pole position should be dry.
776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 05, 2017, 11:16:22 PM
Hi everyone )
all people in general and fans of Bayern Munich in particular wait who is the new manager of them.
The first name in table Bayern is Thomas Tuchel and all news said he is closest one to manger them but today news comes from Spain said that Bayern in contact with the last manager of Barcelona Louis Enrique and we listen that there is another contact with the manager of Hoffenheim Mr.Julian Nagelsmann.
who knows if there is someone else but I'm sure we will soon the new manager of Bayern Munich.
I just read that Bayern Munich President Uli Hoeness has disclosed to Pep Guardiola the identity of the new Bayern Munich manager during a a dinner at a restaurant at Munich and that Guardiola approves of the said manager, i really don't if they wanted Guardiola's approval or not but it's shameful because he wasn't really extraordinary in any way dueing his tenure at Bayern Munich winning the bundesliga is very normal to the Bavarian side.
I read from the Daily Mail that Bayern Munich are considering going in for Jurgen Klopp as the replacement for Carlo Ancelotti, considering how Bayern Munich has bought most of his former players at Dortmund, it's only natural for them to bring the manager as well, No the problem, Is he going to leave Liverpool for Bayern Munich at this crucial juncture and since Bayern Munich's need is dire its now or never for Jurgen Klopp
Jupp Heynckes has put an end to speculations bu coming out that Bayern Munich has offered him his old job back, Jupp Heynckes is the last manager to take Bayern Munich to the Champions League finals which he eventually won against Borussia Dortmund and then later the club after achieving a historic treble for the team
I almost sure that Thomas Tuchel would be the new coach. Really clamorous this choice!
Jupp Heynckes (72 years old) seemed to have left the footbal in 2013 (when Bayern won the historic "triplete".
Maybe they wanted a person who already knew the environment and the team and liked the "old" team players like Muller.
777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 05, 2017, 10:58:14 PM
Perfect timing for Manchester United to take over now isn't it?  Grin This will be Mourinho's season he is due a Premier league title  Grin Grin Grin

Let's see their next match first against Liverpool on 14 October and this match play at Liverpool home. This will be a good match though, Liverpool recent matches are really bad and Man United is in a good shape, if Man United can win with many goals as usual, It will be a big one. Can't wait for duo manchester meet!
Liverpool is not in the good shape even more likely they are showing unsteady performance this season and some people says Liverpool only good at the forward but pretty bad for defensive so Manchester United had good opportunity to get the points although Liverpool will play for home ground match

Liverpool is unpredictable side in Premier League but still they can handle big teams this is going to be very interesting match as Manchester United is in super form and they are now serious contender for this years Championship Mourinho can do any thing for this match I expecting a very tough match even Manchester United is favorite for this match

But every week there is always a surprising incident, in football sometimes past [the last few matches] do not guarantee what will happen next. So although Liverpool are in a bad period and Manchester United is in a fantastic period does not mean the victory is already owned by manchester United. This is what makes sport interesting, especially football.

Everything is possible in football, so I also think Liverpool has chance to show some miracle, but mostly the favorable winners are Manchester United.
They are outstanding this season, and Liverpool is pretty down from their usual gameplay. But as you said I agree and moreover Liverpool is sometimes being unpredictable, so I hope the match to be super entertaining.

This year Manchester United really looks like an unstoppable team.
But up to this point Manchester United faced weaker teams. In the next 4 matches will play against Liverpool, Tottenham and Chelsea!
These direct clashes will tell us whether Mourinho and his Manchester will be the favorite for the Premier League conquest, or whether the favorite will be Manchester City of Guardiola (who has already played against Chelsea and Liverpool by winning both matches)
778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: October 05, 2017, 10:45:23 PM
hello everyone, has anyone predicted who's the top score candidate here? and is zaza one of the top score candidates? but it seems that I think the messi will be the holder of the top scorer this season., I'm here not talking about cr7 because I'm sure cr7 will not shine in this year ..
I am just here to present the zaza and messi to become the top scorer in La Liga (Spanish League)
here is the current top scorer for Laliga below

Lionel Messi      Barcelona           11 goals
Simone Zaza      Valencia CF    6 goals
Cedric Bakambu      Villarreal CF    5 goals
Maximiliano Gσmez  RC Celta            5 goals
Sergio Leσn       Real Betis    4 goals

Messi looks will be the most candidate top scorer this season but very unfortunate that i didn't see Ronaldo at this list


what the odds for Ronaldo ? it must be big.

The highest i could find anywhere is 15 @ bet365. Surprisingly low. Ronaldo will probably score a lot, but it will be hard to to surpass Messi unless he get injured. I would not bet on odds lower then 40.

why surprised ? its normal actually, he is absent 5 matches ? cmiiw.

Yeah I know he have been absent, 4 matches to be exact. But I wrote about Ronaldo's chance of becoming top goalscorer in La Liga, and that will be tough with Messi's start. At least he have scored 4 goals in the two CL matches so far.
This is still the start of the league season. I'm sure the increasing performance of Real Madrid game then Ronaldo will be increasingly chasing the number of goals Messi is now at the top of the list of players scorer while in La Liga this season. we all know that Ronaldo is a player who has always been the top scorer candidate in both League and UCL. Why? because Ronaldo is the only player that can be compared with Messi.
Ronaldo still didn't yet to score a single goal in LaLiga so he is 11 goals behind and I don't think that he can be the next top scorer unless Messi gets injured and misses half of the season so it is more likely that Messi will end up the winner here even Luis Suarez and Greizman are behind while Simone Zaza have just a temporary so I don't expect from him to get past the 20 goal mark with Valencia despite having a good start.
This is the same thing that happened in the UEFA Champions League last season after the group matches Ronaldo just had three goals and scored against the big teams like Bayern Munich,  Atletico Madrid and Juventus, it's the ending that really matters not the beginning when it comes to football.
The problem that Ronaldo is having now is due to lack of confidence. He is under pressure with Messi ahead of him with 11 goals. He wants to catch up as soon as possible to be back on the golden boot race. Other strikers doing well this start of the season make him worry about his gaol scoring abilities. He does not suffer from that in the champions league because it still in the begining.
We all know that he will overcome this and get back at his normal level. The 5 match ban affect players, but, as a four time ballon d'or winner, he shouldn't be affected this hard.
Lack of confidence, I really don't think so, he is scoring and i mean outscoring even Messi in the Champions League so there is no lack of confidence there in my opinion at all. He just have not been scoring in the La Liga and i will attribute it to his late start due to his ban and he is trying to cover lost time, that's why all this is happening.

Messi will surely win this title of top goalscorer.
He has this title in his hands and only an injury could reopen the games.
Its strongest opponents have too many goals to recover:
Suarez: 2 goals scored
CR7, Benzema: no goals scored
779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: October 05, 2017, 10:37:19 PM
Revolution in the next all star game! the East vs West match will be eliminated,
This year, will be the 2 captains (most voted for each conference) to choose the other players and then for the first time in the history of the All Star Game (since 1951) there will be mixed teams!

The next All Star Game will play on February 18, 2018 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.
780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 05, 2017, 10:25:09 PM
7 consecutive win results from Napoli makes this team a strong contender for Juventus and at least for this season Juventus had get serious contender although the league still very far to ended but i wish Napoli could manage their performance with Juventus so i was hoping Italian league will more tight with Napoli and Juventus as the strong candidate to be the champion

yep it will be boring if juve win again.
I really wouldn't mind to see Juve winning the Scudetto but i don't want them to win it so easily say six games before the league is done and we see Juventus already confirmed champions i want it to be fought to the last day just like the La Liga ended last season to the last game.

For the first time in its history, Napoli won the first seven matches of the season (11 consecutive victories, also considering last season).
Napoli is really spectacular, has already scored in 25 goals in Serie A with an average of over 3.5 goals scored in each game (the best average in the top European championships!)
The next two matches against Roma (October 14) and Inter (October 21) will tell us whether Napoli is really ready to win the Serie A championship.
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