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761  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Will Be bottom Of BTC in 2022 Year ( Current Price= $16000 ) on: November 24, 2022, 08:35:41 AM
Hi guys today I saw btc has gone down almost 3 to 4% and and now it is moving at Avergae of 16000 dollars and that is alarming cause if it goes down below 1550 dollars than it might crash for almost 2000 dollars more and that's my guess and I think that it might crash further too.
And also 2022 is going to slow down and so what are you thinking about what will be the lowest price of Bitcoin in 2022 Fiscal Year. 
Nothing is certain here mate , price may drop low to 10k or it may grow to 20k again the thing is no one really knows but what we can see now is that the price seems to be dipping more .
this can go around at least below 15k before the month is over.
and will recover next month to at least 20k?
this is what I am expecting because my funds will be transfer to another coin once it achieved.
Indeed nothing is certain but for me, I think we can't drop under $10k anymore because as I can see the price is stable now on $16k. I expect that it will increase soon and break $20k again. I am curious if why you are going to convert your btc to another coin? And may we know if what coin was that? But, I think there are no other better coins than bitocin because this was the first and currently the most trusted.

If only you will say that you will sell and you will use the money for something, I think that is more acceptable. I hope this message of mine will change your mind. You can still add more coins if you wanted to but you need to use your personal money or sell your shitcoins, etc, except btc.
762  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why does everyone want to trade? on: November 22, 2022, 06:23:23 AM
I think all traders wants to learn that’s why they are trading. Losing money on trading doesn’t mean you didn’t learn. It’s just that the other trader have profit and someone lose since trading is just transfer of money from early buyer to late buyer. There’s no way that everyone will be in profit because the money on the order book is just from other trader too.

Of course newbie or low IQ trader will always lose there money on trading and even if you study a lot. You will still lose because there’s always someone better especially the whales that can dominate the market.
To learn how to trade and to engage on the actual trade are both different things and should not be mixed up because it will be a disaster. As a starter they first need to know the definition of trading and learn every basic steps, then the intermediate and so on... When there are done, they still need to practice their skill in demo version of trading before moving on the real thing but they need to use small amount of money for the first time.

Losing money is normal and even the pro traders themselves do also experience it. As long as you recover your previous losses and ended up in profit then that's great and that means you are now learning.
763  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What feature of Bitcoin do you think is most difficult to understand? on: November 21, 2022, 07:15:52 PM
What most people including me didn’t understand at first, was that all the addresses that people „create“ are basically already there and you yours create a private key and derive the public adress from there.
We did not know, not understand. but it's quite interesting or surprising if that was true. I really thought each address that are shown in the wallet right after we install and access them are freshly generated because there is even a generate new address feature on some wallet where you can replace the old receiving address you have for some reasons including privacy or security.

We all won't understand all these basic features of btc or a btc wallet if we are new to it or not until we play them around but there are really advanced features which are not necessary to learn IMO for a typical person who only wants to buy and sell a btc.
764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 21, 2022, 11:34:19 AM
Players in promoted teams are not experienced enough. So suddenly they cannot perform well when they face strong teams. Gradually they lose confidence and their performance deteriorates further. However, the main weakness of teams like Ajaccio and Auxerre this season is their poor defense. The defense of these two teams is one of the weakest defenses in the league. I'd say Ajaccio and Auxerre can stay out of the relegation zone if they can strengthen their defenses.
In terms of recent performance i think ajaccio are playing better they managed some good results but they lost against auxere who are their relegation contenders which is the main negative thing plus ajaccio defense is much better i think they can move up the standings in the next few rounds since their games are easier than their rivals.
As we have early broken in this season but still 15 rounds are ended and with this current performance is showing most chances we will have tough fight for few clubs which are doing good job for survive because we have two good clubs are having the worst time, and they are unable to come out of bottom which is surely going to be setback for them and their fans with this most chances we will watch three teams will be down and out which were having some time in French Ligue 1 despite newly promoted sides.

Toulouse and Ajaccio can survive just need good performance after break with Angers, Strasbourg and Auxerre are in deep trouble with their poor run in early part of this season Brest and Ajaccio can fight till end with Nantes is also right now having not good time these all are personal views with current performance things can change as well.
765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 21, 2022, 10:43:59 AM
Things are not going on very well for Inter in general this season. I mean the Serie A not the Champions League. Because they are still pretty good in the Champions League as they have managed to reach next round. But in the Serie A, they are struggling to stay in the title race. In fact, Napoli are far away from all of the teams in the league. But the gap between Inter and Napoli is really big like 11 points. If Inter didn't start to get better results on last a few weeks then I can't even imagine the look of their condition.

Inter are doing great in offense but not the same in defense. If they make some improvement in their defensive strategies they actually have a big potential to finish at the second place in the league table at worst. Because they are more productive than Milan, Juventus and Lazio all despite being behind these teams.
Here now we have things were not good but now in recent weeks they are improving and things are looking good for them because in last few matches they have done good job and now having fifth spot with 30 points sharing Lazio its good fight back after having poor start of the season in Serie A hopefully now things could be more improved after this break, and they are going to host Napoli in first match which is surely big challenge for both teams because right now Leaders are unbeaten in 15 matches, and they will try to keep their record alive but playing at San Siro is never been easy for Napoli.

Surely this is going to be vital for both teams because if Napoli able to pass this test after break then surely they can keep their place for long time otherwise we can expect good changes at the top of Serie A league table because Juventus is also now recovering and most chances after this break many injured players are coming back in playing side.
766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How are Online casino's and sports betting platforms coping? on: November 20, 2022, 08:24:19 PM
Managing a casino is one huge balancing act.... you have to make sure that you are building a huge enough bankroll ..so that you can pay out all the winnings, but at the same time you have expenses to pay for the operating of the casino and you have to make a profit.

Luckily for them, they can manage the RTP of the Slots that they offer and also how much they spend on advertising and also how many people need to be employed to operate the casino. (They simply reduce the support .... adjust the RTP and lower the budget on advertising to increase their profits)  Roll Eyes
Not just casino but managing in general is not an easy task. Many people wants to become a manager because they think it looks cool and they also think about the perks but not until they know the struggles of being a manager. In casino business, managing bankroll is important because there are many people who are interested to gamble and bet more.

We need to make sure that we can pay those who win big. When it comes to expenses I think online casino have an edge because they are online anyway and you only need to hire a few staff for some positions like costumers support. Advertising can also be done free online because social media sites and forums are free to access.
767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Phone Mined Coins as the crypto infrastructure on: November 20, 2022, 07:49:20 PM
It's no secret that the number of people using mobile phones far exceed those using computers. That should make cryptocurrencies mineable with a phone much more decentralized. The problem is that phones don't have the same computing power as an ordinary PC. With such limitations, it'll be impossible to turn a profit when mining any CPU-based coin on a mobile device. While some coins just simulate the mining process (eg: Electroneum), there are some which actually use your phone's processor to the max.

I believe Magi (XMG) is one of the best (if not the best) coins you can easily mine on your phone because of its unique PoW algorithm. It penalizes big miners by reducing the block reward. Effectively, the "little guy" gets the most coins per block, while the others are left behind in the dust. Not only this enables true decentralization, but it also makes the Blockchain more equal to everyone. I'm beginning to explore Verus which is a coin that can be mined with CPUs. Both Monero and Wownero are also CPU-based, but they're much harder to mine because there are GPUs on the network. Ultimately, it's all about which coins give you the "most bang for your buck". If you're only doing this for fun, then I'd see why you can't mine with a phone in the first place. Just my thoughts Grin
That is because mobile phones are thrice cheaper than the computers plus they are more portable. You cant carry your computer outside and the best part is that mobile phones are now more powerful than the standard computers. This is why projects like the one the op is talking about are now being implemented. That magi (xmg) you shared there is also cool. Didn't knew that there are projects like that who exist who favours small miners than the big miners.

I think the inventor of it was once a small miner and he invented it as a revenge to the big miners. If the coin's value isn't big then we can say that we are doing it for fun but who knows, what if it grew a lot someday?
768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: November 20, 2022, 12:44:02 PM
The Champions League is a league full of challenges for all teams including Liverpool this season. Currently Liverpool is ranked sixth in the Premier League standings and Newcastle is ranked third in the standings with 15 matches that have been played by Newcastle. The point gap between the two teams is also quite far, namely 8 points, so this makes it a little difficult for Liverpool to catch up with Newcastle, who are not far from fourth place at the moment.
Newcastle this season is present as a new challenger in the top 4 of the Premier League standings. Many people cannot believe what they have achieved at the moment because Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, Manchester United or some other teams are in the top 4 more often than not as title contenders.

To be honest, Newcastle this season has been very good, but I would not be very sure they will be able to maintain their form when it comes to meeting a top team. Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal or Manchester City are still very likely to be Newcastle's toughest test even if some of the teams above are not performing well.
There is no doubt Newcastle United done good job in this season while they were not supposed to do this before start of this season but management doing good job and having good players which are playing consistently, and their performance is surely giving them good reward right now they are at the third spot with just one lost against Liverpool in August now after break we have to check how things going into their favour because if they are able to handle this all positively then no one going to stop them for having their first entry into Champions League after many years which is going to open doors for many big players to join here because results like these are surely having big impact and quality players love to play for trophies.

Now if things will be in good shape then surely we will be able to watch Newcastle United is going to have their first Premier League title in coming years which could be first for them in a century.
769  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: BTC Price Drop - How are Bitcoin Long-Term Holders Responding? on: November 19, 2022, 09:11:52 PM
Due to multiple reasons, the value of bitcoin is always bullish hence if you are a long term holder then you never bother about any bearish trend of bitcoin markets. Just imagine if you have bought bitcoins by the times of 2016 when bitcoin was trading below $1000, then you are already in profits for at least 10 folds; and might be keeping your imaginary stop-loss around 2x or 5x from your buying prices then you will stay calm and might be focusing arranging more funds to make use of a 'perfect' bottom.

Not just with bitcoin or cryptocurrencies in general, I do notice that all long term holders of other investment like stock or gold or realestate also enjoying massive profits in long run. But, unfortunately people here do mistake the term long term with months of holding or 1 or 2 years of holding but we need to remember that bitcoin's cycle is 4 years long hence your long term plans must be based on how many bitcoin cycles that you are going to cover.
The main reason would be on why btc price can increase is because of the adoption but I think most of the times the value of btc is only at a normal rate and not really that bullish. 2017 was the first major year where btc experienced a big break but before than that, the price of it was still cheap and many of us wish we didn't waste time or doubt btc after hearing it but being a long term hodler is not also easy and those got involved early didn't also expect that btc will grow big like this but now that we already know, we now know what to do.

Long term hodlers respond in the situations like this (bear) buy buying more coins and then leaving them for a while to avoid distractions.
770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador for the opening match on: November 19, 2022, 08:42:53 PM
I think this new is not correct - these days news spread like wildfire and everyone wants to remain clean.
Brazil and argentina are the favourites of the world cup
What is the point you are trying to prove and is this the first time you are hearing of match-fixing, that is a common thing in football games as many global football games have been fixed several in the past and Qatar happens to be the spotlight of football events in this world cup and a lot of resources will be pushed in just to influence the outcome of some of their vital matches in the world up.

Am not saying the news is real because there has not been any price of that at the moment so the news remains just speculation.
We have too many speculations and allegations from first day of this event while this was in hosting process so right now talking its speculation or right no one can give clear reply but for me, we can expect things like these from them because they have reputation for having use of money for their own cause and mostly this works for them even in this case if anything wrong happen then FIFA could be tough, and we can expect harsh punishments and other penalties as well because Qatar officials without any doubt are desperate for the win of first match.

Now, with this all if they won this match on merit then still many doubts and suspiciously is going to work around with surely this is going to be one of the most controversial events in soccer history because too many problems and now sudden ban on alcohol just before few days is also having another controversy.
771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: November 19, 2022, 08:18:02 PM
as long as the Chelsea owner is ready to spend more money in bringing quality players, he will be able to release more money to Graham Potter to make good signings in January open window.
The Chelsea Football Club is struggling to perform and it is not something the owner will ignore because he has already spent a lot. That guy as I see him needs results and he will be able to do anything to have the results that he wants. if it requires signing Ronaldo he will be able to do it this time around, let us wait till January and see how everything will work out
It's like a mess in chelsea thesedays.

The club gave tuchel money to bring fofana, cucurella and koulibally and then fire him plus these players play below expectation and drowning ... what would we expect now? More signing for the champions league ambition? I dont think so , the club might start saving money and let graham potter manage the current squad , how far we can go? I'm not sure ... chelsea might disqualified early from the CL this time.
This mess started when Roman Abramovich sell this club because he was doing amazing job and club was also having good quality and performance but suddenly change of ownership having issues and Tuchel sacked which create more problems now Graham Potter was good in early few matches but now before break Chelsea was second worst club in Premier League for their last five matches performance just two draws and three loses.

But, good thing happened for them now they have good break which is surely going to help them for having better strategy which will bring them back in good shape specially right now they are at eight position with most chances they are going to miss top four spots and their next match in Champions League is against Dortmund which is also not good, but they can give shock to Chelsea as they were tough against Manchester City so most chances this season is going to end on below for Chelsea.
772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 19, 2022, 07:18:23 PM
In limited overs, the brand of cricket England team plays, sometimes they are bound to fail and at times might even look ugly but when they click they are going to make a mockery out of their opponents.

In the last 5-6 (under Morgan) This very same outfit changed the White ball game for the cricketing world and i believe one day they are going to become 1st team in cricket history to put 500 runs on the scoreboard (ODI).

Coming back to this match, this is another useless bilateral series, so not very important except for stat padding, both captains also skipped the match.
Here I agreed with you this is completely useless series specially after winning T-20 world cup just because of this English players are not giving their best and losing matches frequently which is not good but good thing happening for them, they are best team in white ball cricket which was never been easy for them here lost to Bangladesh in 2015 world cup bring big changes.

They have done good work for having this all Morgan is also one of the best leaders as he started from scratch and ended with them as champions now they can bring good changes and development with good domestic set up and improved strategy but for this all they have to scratch few things because these are also important for players mentality like these useless bilateral series which are having not positive impact on them.
773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SBF said: WHAT HAPPENED? on: November 19, 2022, 07:04:41 PM
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Sam has spent about $37 million on the current  government, and I assume the government will send him to a safe place to prove its loyalty to him.
That's not how the real world works. His crimes and misbehavior is too public to brush it under the rug anymore. Sam messed up big time in many ways but are donations from rich guys now illegal somehow? I though they were pretty common thing in US.

Also people seem to forget what triggered this bear run. It wasn't CZ catching the mismanagement of funds and collateral. Terra was the trigger that caused the panic, insolvency in everywhere, shorting etc.
Governments are full of controversy. There are left and right corruptions, and etc.. so the above scenario is very possible to happen. Donating is not illegal of course but there is a big possibility that what he used as a donation is not the money of his own but it was the money of the people who trusted him. That was wrong in any angle but if scenarios like that are common in the US then that's bad for their reputation. I even thought US is a good place but I was wrong.

Before the FTX tragedy happened, there was terra but before them, I think there is already a bear market that time but these negative events that we are experiencing are making the bear market worse.
774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 18, 2022, 08:48:22 PM
Admittedly, it will take a while before we start the competition again in Germany, but there is a decent squatter on the program in January. RB Lepzig then plays at home against Bayern Munich. If RB Leipzig is to maintain any chance at the title, they will have to win this game. Bayern have more players in the World Cup than RB Leipzig, so maybe that's another advantage for Leipzig. They have managed to work their way up nicely over the past period. It is also time for Schalke 04 to win matches. A club with their history should continue to play in the Bundesliga.
RB Leipzig's performance so far before the World Cup break has been impressive, as they have not been defeated since October, which is a very good form. With this form and a smaller number of players playing in Qatar compared to Bayern Munich, I believe the match will be a difficult one for Bayern Munich, because RB Leipzig has taken time preparing for such a season, and they are hoping to win the Bundesliga title this season, so it will be a very difficult match.
After poor start of this season now they are back in business and having third spot with impressive result in last ten games which is giving positive development for them after break they are going to face leaders Bayern Munich which could be tough challenge, and they have to done good strategy for this match because their defense is not good and right now Bayern Munich is surely at the fire which is not giving any relaxation to any team so if they want to keep staying at top then surely they have to solve problems and start positively against Bayern Munich.

After break, we will have good matches at top because things are going to have good changes and mostly teams will try to keep their momentum but world cup injuries can also create problems for few teams because they are relaying on players which are currently on national duty.
775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: November 18, 2022, 06:36:40 PM
Sadioman injury has really spelled disaster for the boys. At such a time, his injury cannot be accepted in any way.While playing a club game, he injured his leg and got pain in his ankle. The pain has not improved so far but has increased. Due to which he got injured from this World Cup. We will not injure him in any way I can't accept it.
Sadio Mané and many other injured players those were going to have best for their countries in this event now have to watch this from their homes which is surely the biggest regret for them and this all happening just because of this corrupt FIFA which is having no intention but just counting money and having their own interests in busy schedule which is already having many troubles for players now having impact on clubs as well those already spend millions of USD for these players and were expecting good results.

Five African countries are involved in this world cup, but mostly fans were expecting good results from Senegal because they won African Cup of nations, but now hopes are already ended and now most chances no other team can go through as mostly having tough groups, and it's never been easy for them to go through into next round.
776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Must it be the last game? on: November 18, 2022, 05:58:32 PM
Even at point of reducing the matches to 3 or 5 there would still be the last 1 match terminating the game from have correct straight winning which have kept me wondering why this is always happening to me and why must it be the last match always. Even though I said lemme bet on 3 matches it will still endup being the last 1 match to cut off the match then my question is why must it be the last one?
If you have figured is always your last game and you are wondering about it, there is nothing wrong with that. In gambling or generally in life there are times or days that you notice certain things are just happening the other way against your expectations. In this your games too it may be seasonal and that will change with time. But basically it is not just the last game that stop winning, it could be from any game this is with experience.
I think it's only a coincidence and we are just overthinking it, and that is why we believe it's normal but it actually isn't. There should be games where you can win straight as long as you are extremely lucky because betting on multiple games is also hard. If we want a better win chance then why not bet on single or double games instead? As their odds are much better than 3 or more games. Of course the chance of losing is still there if we are not that fortunate or lucky enough.

In gambling, each must prepare to lose and must accept it so that no hard feelings are going to be carried later on but if we are not that type of person then much better if we avoid betting.
777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: November 18, 2022, 03:11:31 PM
51 st T20 match Sydney sixers women team vs Sydney thunder women team. There is a lot of difference between the two teams in this match. Sydney sixers women's team is at the top of the points table and Sydney thunder women's team is at the bottom of the points table. Sydney sixers women's team batted first and collected 178 runs for 6 wickets. The other side, Sydney Thunder batted in the second innings hoping to win the match, finishing with 160 for 7 in 20 overs. In this match, Sydney Thunder women's team lost against Sydney sixers women's team by 18 runs. The Sydney Thunder women's team lost in match thes, but played very well
There is no doubt quality is the biggest difference between these two teams like Sydney Sixers are at the top with 10 wins from 13 matches, and they are clearly leaders in league table with Sydney Thunders are at the bottom with just one win from their 13 matches which is giving all details about their performance and quality in this season.

In this match Thunders won the toss and have field which was good decision as they take two early wickets, but after these Sixers take charge and done until end of the match with Ashleigh Gardner 85 on 48 balls were best with the help of captain Ellyse Perry's 45 on 30 balls they give 178 target which was enough and Thunders were not near to achieve this ended 160 even they also have few good innings, but now they have to wait for next season as they can good performance in this league.
778  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: November 18, 2022, 01:34:02 PM
Is this an extreme example of FUD being fabricated to discredit Crypto currencies and Crypto casinos? ==> https://ftxcollapse.org/breaking-news-sbf-lost-over-100m-gambling-at-online-casinos/  - "All the deposits were made to such casinos as Stake, LTC Casino, and Bitcasino."

I mean..... why do you register a domain specifically to focus on the FTX Collapse? ftxcollapse.org ....is this a butthurt person that lost money on the exchange or is this opportunistic enemies that are actively attacking the competition?
I feel like stake is such a famous place that when there is a scammer who would like to steal money, they may end up using Stake to whitewash that money away, deposit here, gamble a bit, and then try to withdraw somewhere else, which would be sort of like a semi mix of bitcoin basically, and of course there is no KYC here neither, which would be easier to confuse others, but of course Stake could just say "the account that deposited from X withdrew that money to Y" and it would be all over for them.

It’s just a fame issue, not anything else, Stake is too famous to be ignored when there are things like this going on, not saying it is true or not, but it wouldn't shock me.
779  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: November 17, 2022, 05:59:09 PM
I do not see why it is necessary to implement a "paid" service for this, because it is free on Stake.com ...you simply open the high roller tab or all bets... find a bet that you like and click on it.... then add it to your own bet slip. I use this option when I am too lazy to pick my own bets... but it is risky.

I think there are a lot of multi bets on there... that are simply created to milk people. The pro's know people "copy&paste" their bets, so they simply pick a lot of losing multi bets (the opposite of what they want to bet) and then their odds increase. (Just look in detail on what is combined in these multi bets.... impossible odds)  Roll Eyes
I think there are a lot of people who think they are very very good when it comes to sports betting, even some that makes their whole income from it and live based on that, which means that it shouldn't really be that shocking to learn they would also want some payment to share it. If they are good enough that you could copy their moves and make a living out of that without ever working again, then they actually do deserve some money.

I disagree that you can make a living from this, I feel like it's valid for a while but not for 30 years for example, it is just good for maybe a year at most but that’s it, and even that would be only if you are great.
780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 17, 2022, 09:18:32 AM
It will be interesting to see how PSG play after (hopefully) they are sent home from the Champions League by Bayern. For many PSG players (Mbappe, for example), this will be a severe psychological blow and, in fact, the end of the season. The paradox is that there will be many games ahead in Ligue 1 and maybe PSG will perform much worse in this scenario. It is hard to believe that any of the opponents will be able to take advantage of this opportunity, but in theory why not.
Hahaha, I don't think PSG is so bad this season mate. We know the statistics of these two teams and can probably determine which one deserves to go through, so the scenario may never be the same as we think now.

Neymar, Mbappe, Messi are great strikers this season with good performances. They have scored as many goals 16 goals during the group stage as a team and for now Mbappe is still the top scorer in the Champions League with his 7 goals. PSG will be weak if the defense is bad, but this season their defense seems good enough to rely on.
I agreed with you in this season we have some positive development in this team PSG even their two back to back draw matches are looking for few answers but still they can do good fight against Bayern Munich which is surely currently in the best shape after having few bad matches in Bundesliga their performance in Champions League is at their best but now this three months break can bring good changes in both teams which is surely going to have good impact on performance in knock out rounds.

Neymar and Messi are surely doing amazing job with Mbappé is also at his best, but his childish behaviour is surely creating problems for himself he needs to do change if he wants to be one of the best in current generation because this is also important for good performance.
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