The most interesting part is that Iconomi keeps growing its funds due to the BTC rise and next week when LSK pumps it will go even higher. Fun times ahead on all fronts here  It would be interesting if they promised to pay dividends in USD. Otherwise it all depends on BTC/ETH price, and the prices of other cryptos they (will) own. No it doesn't. You can convert your ETH dividends to any currency, crypto or fiat immediately. I don't see any problem here. Yes, I can do it, but Iconomi must buy ETH to pay dividends. If they have 1 BTC now and ETH is for 0.012 then they can buy 83.33(3) ETH, but if ETH will be 0.013 in a month then with the same 1 BTC they will have 76,92 ETH. If that 1 BTC worth of ETH was used to pay dividends then with lower ETH prices ICN holders would receive more ETH. uuh, what? Dividends are distributed from realized profits. If they already made profit, why would they buy eth? At the time those profits were made, their net worth in ETH was X. So each ICN will receive X/100M |
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The most interesting part is that Iconomi keeps growing its funds due to the BTC rise and next week when LSK pumps it will go even higher. Fun times ahead on all fronts here It would be interesting if they promised to pay dividends in USD. Otherwise it all depends on BTC/ETH price, and the prices of other cryptos they (will) own. No it doesn't. You can convert your ETH dividends to any currency, crypto or fiat immediately. I don't see any problem here. |
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I am sure ICN will be add in other exchanges like bittrex or poloniex
just give time to add it and we can see ICN there. I hope.
Give it time for what ? any shitcoin gets listed day one if no funny stuff going on ... Correct. ICN is not any shitcoin, so pump and dump dreams will need to wait until the product is actually ready. |
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For Newbie, you might find myetherwallet easy to use for you ETH & ICN - since it also supports natively the ICN token. And you do not have to download the blockchain and keep updating the software to the latest version.
is it really safe using it? I have tried using it lately and have my ICN store there for sometime now. I'm still worried if its safe to put it there for a long time. yes, you can get the chrome addon, which loads the files locally. makes it a lot more secure Thanks. I found the tutorial on how to do it too. I just have 1200+ ICN on myethwallet but i am keeping it for good so i can earn dividends one day. good choice! there will be an exclusive iconomi wallet too, so if you want it managed by them - should be an option soon Which I peronally will use. I always have fear with locking myself out or making too many backups. Nano Ledger would be the only non-Iconomi option for me. |
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Holding ICN Hard now!
Any idea on how much will ICN be on 16 of Dec?
I wouldn't expect a huge price jump before first dividends and OFM. |
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the thing is i have iCN in ico.iconomi.net and i didnt move them anywhere yet since the start...
ICN received
3,882 .16533741308682229 ICN
and
on Kraken exchange i have cca. 1.500 ICNs
so if i move all my ICNs to myetherwallet i will get dividends?
Yes, you will get 2 bulks of dividends - one for the ICN you have on Iconomi site, and the other @your myetherwallet address. You know that dividends are paid based on the amount of ICN each address has, right? thank you for info, is there any way to move from kraken to iconomi site or i have to move to myetherwallet.. No i didnt know that If you bought ICN from Kraken, move those bitches to myetherwallet For now, you cannot move any bought ICN to the ICONOMI site. i move those bitches (15 ICN - to test) from kraken to myetherwallet ... so far 0 balance on myetherwallet.. i gues it need some time to get those 15ICN As far as I remember, the page doesn't support auto-refresh, so you need to login again (that is the refresh) in order to see changes from the last login well i just look on kraken and status is ON HOLD... if the Team really says that we can move directly to Iconomi site, that would be really fantastic!!! |
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the thing is i have iCN in ico.iconomi.net and i didnt move them anywhere yet since the start...
ICN received
3,882 .16533741308682229 ICN
and
on Kraken exchange i have cca. 1.500 ICNs
so if i move all my ICNs to myetherwallet i will get dividends?
Yes, you will get 2 bulks of dividends - one for the ICN you have on Iconomi site, and the other @your myetherwallet address. You know that dividends are paid based on the amount of ICN each address has, right? thank you for info, is there any way to move from kraken to iconomi site or i have to move to myetherwallet.. No i didnt know that If you bought ICN from Kraken, move those bitches to myetherwallet For now, you cannot move any bought ICN to the ICONOMI site. The team approved that deposit into Iconomi site option will be available shortly after the platform is released |
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the thing is i have iCN in ico.iconomi.net and i didnt move them anywhere yet since the start...
ICN received
3,882 .16533741308682229 ICN
and
on Kraken exchange i have cca. 1.500 ICNs
so if i move all my ICNs to myetherwallet i will get dividends?
Yes, you will get 2 bulks of dividends - one for the ICN you have on Iconomi site, and the other @your myetherwallet address. You know that dividends are paid based on the amount of ICN each address has, right? thank you for info, is there any way to move from kraken to iconomi site or i have to move to myetherwallet.. No i didnt know that If you bought ICN from Kraken, move those bitches to myetherwallet For now, you cannot move any bought ICN to the ICONOMI site. i move those bitches (15 ICN - to test) from kraken to myetherwallet ... so far 0 balance on myetherwallet.. i gues it need some time to get those 15ICN As far as I remember, the page doesn't support auto-refresh, so you need to login again (that is the refresh) in order to see changes from the last login |
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the thing is i have iCN in ico.iconomi.net and i didnt move them anywhere yet since the start...
ICN received
3,882 .16533741308682229 ICN
and
on Kraken exchange i have cca. 1.500 ICNs
so if i move all my ICNs to myetherwallet i will get dividends?
Yes, you will get 2 bulks of dividends - one for the ICN you have on Iconomi site, and the other @your myetherwallet address. You know that dividends are paid based on the amount of ICN each address has, right? |
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For Newbie, you might find myetherwallet easy to use for you ETH & ICN - since it also supports natively the ICN token. And you do not have to download the blockchain and keep updating the software to the latest version.
is it really safe using it? I have tried using it lately and have my ICN store there for sometime now. I'm still worried if its safe to put it there for a long time. Get a ledger nano s and use myetherwallet with that. Its the safest and simplest you will get per now Just experiement a little with the ledger nano s first, so you get confortable with it, and make sure your safewords never touch a digital device. so having ICNs stored in myetherwallet gets you dividends? If you control the private keys of that specific address on myetherwallet, YES, you should get dividends,unless there is some more drama with the ETH network and it forks again, in which case you could be getting "normal" dividends and "classic" dividends. and if you have stored your ICNs in ico.iconomi.net ? Then you don't need to do anything |
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While cry-babies yell & rant from their mom's basement, ICONOMI team is hard at work spreading the word about ICONOMI around the world.  i can see you are not following ICONOMI on twitter but yeah, they sure travel to places to reach out possible investors and spreading the word about them. they shouldn't just be spreading though, the platform should at least be developed and be done on time. It's not like the entire company is there. The developers are working, it is just Tim and Jani, which is actually what they are supposed to do! |
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ says the one hiding behind a newbie account..... PS: AM a YUUUGGGEEEE TRoll....much bigger than you could ever be......  You are right. In am a hodler rank#23 in the holderslist . Big newbieeeee Fantastic.....then you are just proving that you have more money than sense...................  You think what you think. I make more money then you ever can imagine. Good luck with your concerns.. Good for you.... Quite frankly, I don't give a flying fuck about imagining how much money "YOU" are making. I ain't living your life...... Kind of funny to see how people revert to using these kinds of arguments when cornered.... May I suggest that you read this book: "Under Saturn's Shadow: The Wounding and Healing of Men" by James Hollis You might just learn something.... Now you are concerned about me ? you are concerning about everything you must have a hard time in your life. Everybody who says that they are not in ICN for the money is lying! Thank you for your suggestions but i dont read gay books. Fine, I'll bite....just because I'm bored..... It is exactly because I am in ICN for the money that I am raising concerns about mETH I Want ICN to pamp past fucking URANUS........if you didn't get that already, then you are just one big thicko with more money than sense...(which you have abundantly demonstrated so far) And you obviously have no grasp on fucking reality if you're calling a book "GAY" A wise man once said: "Never judge a book by its cover"..... If your are in for the money then why did you invest if you have so much concerns? If you invest in ICN you invest indirectly in Ether too because ICN is on their platform. I understand the concerns but i have trust in the devs that they gonna solve these problems, they already doing a great job en working hard for the community. I want ethereum to succeed because it is for the icn investors benefit. But if you want to attract investors you scare them away with this kind of talk because talking about concerns is helping nobody because its to late for concerns if you invested and it make look ICN team stupid. Sell or dont complain. Im not here for books im here for moontalk and lambo pics. Reddit is for the serious talk. a man said once " Life is like a box of chocolates..." ICN to fucking Plutooooo If you invest in ICN you invest indirectly in Ether too because ICN is on their platform If you invest in AWS you invest indirectly in Cisco too because that could based company is using their platform infrastructure. If you invest in a CRM company you invest indirectly in Salesforce too because that CRM is on their platform If you invest in a stock you invest indirectly in the stock exchange too because that stock is on their platform And that is from #23 in the top investors list.. Have you read the FAQs at all? Q: What if the Ethereum blockchain fails? A: As low as the probability of that happening is, there are other great platforms out there - for example Lisk... |
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like the fiasco we had few months ago, with the empty blocks. Iconomi postponed the token distribution because of network problems, remember? I'd say we have at least 100 pages of cry babies and bitching in this thread because of that, and that is just btt. Now imagine something similar with grownups, "old world" investors..
Ethereum is an infrastructure service provider to Iconomi and all other app tokens built on top.
What happens when infrastructure service starts to have availability and performance problems, such as email or cloud-based service?
Or when that infrastructure service needs to patch every week because of security flows?
So far, Ethereum, as such, has failed.
I don't even want to think about the scenario that some miners will decide to fork again in a future "upgrade".
Go explain to the same non-tech investors that suddenly there is ICN-classic stock, but no reason to worry - the team does not support or develop it.
If these forks and flows continue, Iconomi should seriously consider and test alternatives.
That can turn out to be a show stopper for investors! Stability is the most important part in the early stages of a project like that. You can't have trust without stability, and without trust - there is nothing.
Firstly, I would say that Ethereum although is suffering from many problems recently, but still it's the best option for smart contact right now. If they use another blockchain for smart contacts, they have to use the same blockchain to pay the dividends. I think, it would take much time to shift on to another blockchain. Ethereum forks are a sign that Ethereum is actively bring improved. ( Also a sign that it has flaws). I think, many other blockchains would be having undetected problems in them. There are lots of developers on Ethereum, so many problems are detected. I would say, that is best option to remain in Ethereum ( till there's a fork which makes smart contacts incompatible,  hehe , just joking, it would never happen) Some boys are spreading only FUD here trying to bring the ICN price down. Glad the hear some rational thinking. FUD? Are you a clown? Why would I spread FUD? I have already bought my ICNs. And since when talking about real issues and problems that concerns me, as an investor, is taken as FUD? What is so rational about "ethereum is the best option because there is no other option out there"? I will just post my questions on reddit. |
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Starts to look more like bi-weekly fork. Let's hope that we won't end up with another active chain. The last thing we need is ICN classic. Some kid here said something about a pig and a lion? ICN classic cannot happen. would be totally worthless without a company backing it with products You know it, and I know it. What about all people from outside the crypto world? How do u explain a weekly fork and daily high severity "bugs" in the underlaying protocol? Now we are still flying below the radar, but what will happen when the platform will be operative and people will invest into live funds? Or when another major issue will prevent or mess up dividends distribution? Those forks are really really bad for any service that is using Ethereum in production, especially a fin-tech platform. people outside of crypto don't give a single fuck about a blockchain or its state. as long as it works, which it does even with forks nope- they won't give a fuck as long as they're getting their dividends. the second their dividends do not show up, you will have a huge fucking riot on your hands.....pitchforks and all.... sorry, but anyone who's just choosing to act like an ostrich is just purely a fucking degenerate gambler and not an actual investor........that's my take anyway...... like the fiasco we had few months ago, with the empty blocks. Iconomi postponed the token distribution because of network problems, remember? I'd say we have at least 100 pages of cry babies and bitching in this thread because of that, and that is just btt. Now imagine something similar with grownups, "old world" investors.. Ethereum is an infrastructure service provider to Iconomi and all other app tokens built on top. What happens when infrastructure service starts to have availability and performance problems, such as email or cloud-based service? Or when that infrastructure service needs to patch every week because of security flows? So far, Ethereum, as such, has failed. I don't even want to think about the scenario that some miners will decide to fork again in a future "upgrade". Go explain to the same non-tech investors that suddenly there is ICN-classic stock, but no reason to worry - the team does not support or develop it. If these forks and flows continue, Iconomi should seriously consider and test alternatives. That can turn out to be a show stopper for investors! Stability is the most important part in the early stages of a project like that. You can't have trust without stability, and without trust - there is nothing. |
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Starts to look more like bi-weekly fork. Let's hope that we won't end up with another active chain. The last thing we need is ICN classic. Some kid here said something about a pig and a lion? ICN classic cannot happen. would be totally worthless without a company backing it with products You know it, and I know it. What about all people from outside the crypto world? How do u explain a weekly fork and daily high severity "bugs" in the underlaying protocol? Now we are still flying below the radar, but what will happen when the platform will be operative and people will invest into live funds? Or when another major issue will prevent or mess up dividends distribution? Those forks are really really bad for any service that is using Ethereum in production, especially a fin-tech platform. |
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Starts to look more like bi-weekly fork. Let's hope that we won't end up with another active chain. The last thing we need is ICN classic. Some kid here said something about a pig and a lion? |
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Some people don't understand that Ethereum is de best option to build on. They have the best devs the more then 300 dapss in their dapstore, big companies testing on ethereum like ibm siemens deloitte and microsoft azure is already integrated ethereum as a service. Ethereum is being attacked because they (bitcoin) are scared and they know they can lose alot of marketcap to ethereum so they atack to harm the trust of people. Ethereum is hardening every time when attacked. Al other blockchainplatform solutions are far behind ethereum because when they are in the top 3 then the attackers will aim on them too. smart contract platforms look safe (lisk, stratis,synereo) but are absolutely not. I think devolopment is more important then price of ether. Iconomi made the best choice to choose for ethereum. Sorry for my english im from Holland.
Not quite true actually. The big companies like the idea of smart contracts, but none of them has built anything on ethereum blockchain. There is a big difference between testing on and deploying a real product or service on. Can you point out one product, service or use case that is working on ethereum? Don't tell me Iconomi, but a service that one of these companies that you mentioned are providing? As for Azure - it is Blockchain as a service, not ethereum as a service. Sure, IBM and IoT, Microsoft, Santander and others are very much into blockchains and smart contracts. Does it mean they are going to use ethereum blockchain to deploy their services? Bitcoin is scared, that's why "bitcoin" attacks ethereum? What are you 15 y/o? Since currently there is no other real alternative, Iconomi made the ONLY available choice to deploy on ethereum. You have to be ignorant if you ignore that bitcoin has the biggest motive to attack ethereum. It is totally normal that they are scared that there is a serious competitor in the game. Even a 15 year old understand this. And they gonna do everything to destroy it. I never said there is a product ot service build on Ethereum what people are using, but thats not strange because ethereum is in the development fase when the platform is ready (Metropolis) then we gonna see real world usage. Why is the only available choice? Because they are the BEST available choice You have to be ignorant if you ignore that bitcoin has the biggest motive to attack ethereum... they are scared Why would they want to attack Ethereum? And who is "they"? Bitcoin core devs? Miners? Can you backup your claims about that fear somehow? Or is it your hunch and a crystal ball? You are the one talking like a 15 y/o child. Applying that I am ignorant doesn't help you prove your point. Which is what, exactly? |
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Excellent news! Looks like moon launch is still on schedule for this December  Tsunami season ahead of us. We have ICNP tsunami, ICNX tsunami, platform access tsunami, first dividends tsunami, OFM tsunami, debit card tsunami, unique offline key generator tsunami..
And then dividends tsunami strikes again. and then again. and again. and again.
I think Iconomi will be announced a tsunami area soon.
ICN is certainly approaching Tsunami area. Hold on to your butts.  You keep moving that arrow to the right ICN is already creeping on top 10 on Market Cap list. I can't even imagine how high it will rise on Poloniex or Bittrex.  Looks like Tsunami season is getting closer and closer... Can't wait till December December is just the appetizer. I can't wait for the main dish (OFM) |
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Some people don't understand that Ethereum is de best option to build on. They have the best devs the more then 300 dapss in their dapstore, big companies testing on ethereum like ibm siemens deloitte and microsoft azure is already integrated ethereum as a service. Ethereum is being attacked because they (bitcoin) are scared and they know they can lose alot of marketcap to ethereum so they atack to harm the trust of people. Ethereum is hardening every time when attacked. Al other blockchainplatform solutions are far behind ethereum because when they are in the top 3 then the attackers will aim on them too. smart contract platforms look safe (lisk, stratis,synereo) but are absolutely not. I think devolopment is more important then price of ether. Iconomi made the best choice to choose for ethereum. Sorry for my english im from Holland.
Not quite true actually. The big companies like the idea of smart contracts, but none of them has built anything on ethereum blockchain. There is a big difference between testing on and deploying a real product or service on. Can you point out one product, service or use case that is working on ethereum? Don't tell me Iconomi, but a service that one of these companies that you mentioned are providing? As for Azure - it is Blockchain as a service, not ethereum as a service. Sure, IBM and IoT, Microsoft, Santander and others are very much into blockchains and smart contracts. Does it mean they are going to use ethereum blockchain to deploy their services? Bitcoin is scared, that's why "bitcoin" attacks ethereum? What are you 15 y/o? Since currently there is no other real alternative, Iconomi made the ONLY available choice to deploy on ethereum. |
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mETH will die.
They should move the platform on to Stratis.
Stratis will rule the world while Vitalik will be sobbing away in a corner while holding on too his pussycat manbag.....
I think the ETH project will soon be replaced with Zcash ZCRASH.....no...... but seriously, the team should have contingency plans in place in regards to mETH. I don't care how much of a mETH fan boy you are, it would be smart for ICN to have a back up plan in case King Vitalik's project comes crashing down. That would reassure investors as well. It could be cool if inter-blockchain auto failover mechanism exists. |
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