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7621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I always lose all my tokens and btc on gambling~ on: June 07, 2017, 12:58:05 PM
I guess, gambling is not actually for me.
I kinda feel bad on all the tokens wasted on gambling but it's kinda my "when I'm bored" hobby.
Do you guys have any tips on how to not to lose all you tokens on gambling?

Be wise about it dude. Don't make decisions based on what you're currently feeling especially if you've just lost. Make a plan and try not spend too much time in gambling. I know that feeling of being bored and then resort to playing dice. That makes me lose a lot more since i do it basically on a whim and would make sudden rash decisions so now i avoid that
7622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: June 07, 2017, 12:49:12 PM
Of course investment is better then gambling as in investment you always have an chance to make money depending on your skills and strategy but in gambling everything is dependent only on luck and you can never control your luck.
precisely is a matter of knowledge and skills on how to find good investment for your money as long as you it correctly you will able to earn from it unlike doing gamble you always waiting and relying with your luck and if things comes on the other way you will lose everything so its really much better to invest than to gamble.

That's right and we cannot afford to depend only on luck each and every time to make money and if we do so then we are putting our life at huge risk as you cannot expect that luck will favor you each and every time.

Since I'm not good in gambling I prefer investment too, there was a time in gambling that you became greedy. Even your losing you play and play again as long as you have a money. Other tell that gambling is like a drugs that you can't stop when you take it. And in investment we should make a backround check in every company or investment sites that we will invest, make sure that it is proven and legit.

for us that is not good in gambling, we can choose investment like above me and this is what i am doing too for now. because beside i am playing gambling, i want to increase my money with an investment and i hope that with investment, i can growth my my capital. i know to get ROI in investment is really needs a time and i am no problem with that.

It's always better to be sure of where your money is going and between the two, investments clearly has a more secure path. People who invest tend to be those more responsible when it comes to financial matters while young people who are impatient and adventurous wpuld prefer the thrill of gambling.
7623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: June 07, 2017, 12:46:47 PM
then we are clear here right about how experience help you out to influence your winning chance.

now it is just the matter how you consider it as an important thing? a key role? or not necessary at all? just think deeper and be positive about nothing useless as long as you clever enough to utilize anything around you for good reason.

In this context , it is utilizing experience to get the advantage when you play. That means it is useless, you dont need to have tons of experience because it doesnt help you to win. The only thing that you should be aware of is that you are going to lose in the EV- games in the long run so dont even bother to play

That's only one aspect of where experience plays a part. But we can't neglect the importance of what experience can add to your decision making. Most people who gamble dice and lose a lot of money are newbies who doesn't have any form of plan with their capital and time. Experienced players, even for dice games, would know the right amount and when to quit or continue. Experience makes you better in controlling your feelings and avoid panic dscisions
7624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: June 07, 2017, 12:43:10 PM
I started sometime ago with less then 50 dollars that i purchased bitcoin and started trading, why should i put all my money at risk when i dont know what im doing? I were newbie and i were curious and after a long search i decided to test bitcoin, i dont regret since nowadays im able to get an extra source of income with it.

You're right in doing so dude. If you're a newbie, it would be foolish in investing a big amount immediately as you're still at a stage when you're trying to figure things out. That's why its logical to shell out small investments only. You don't want to risk a big amount when you're still finding your way around right?
7625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: June 07, 2017, 12:40:35 PM
If I ever heard the word gamble the first thing that comes in my mind is the word risk,
For me it is a very risky thing to do and for all of the gamblers out there I really do hope that all of the risk that you made is worth it.

Yeah you're right dude. Its just a matter of what and how much you're willing to risk that would determine if gambling can be good or bad for you. We all take risks everyday though we have to also consider thoroughly the consequences of these risks that we take.
7626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: June 07, 2017, 12:38:41 PM
Many people here are asking "How gambling can benefits us by winning" on it using strategy like Martingale, or pure luck when we are playing DICE?
But I'm just wondering when do people will realize that gambling can never be the one that could benefits us, because the truth is, we could lose the thing that we can't lose to afford before we could be benefited by gambling.

They will never realize it as long as there are casino's existing and gambling games are reachable by just a simple url or click throughout the web. We can't blame those people, it's either they are already stick to their minds that they can't live without gambling and as well as they are hungry to win an instant money.
Gambling most of the time relies on your luck and if you are lucky you will win and if not the opposite thing will happen, that is the normal situation that we have seen most of the time and we should not think of pursuing if we cannot afford to lose anymore.
Enjoying is good but if it will lead to gambling addiction due to excessive effort you give just to find a winning solution then that would not be good for you.

And that will be the hard way if you will depend on gambling and with the current situation, many gamblers are starting to build their own career in gambling. Some of them are rising to success and some of them are falling into failure. It is worth to those success gamblers and it is not for those that fall into sadness.

Well, obviously the one who is lucky in gambling ia those people who are lucky on playing gambling, and every try is worth it, even though you win or lose the most important thing here is that you've tried, you've know what is going to happen to you when you try gambling. The result might get you disappointed but it's okay, just take it as a lesson. Because this is life, we have to make the wrong decisions before we succeed on everything that we want to have or happen.

They are the only ones who are benefiting in gambling and it's worth for them to spend their time in gambling. But when they are starting to lose, that will be the start of their control, they know what to do so every move that they do is worth it and being aware of what can be the worst scenario can happen is there.
I think when they start losing, they will lose the control of themselves may be they will playing without thinking what the risks they will got and may be they put everything what they have just for get back what they lose.

People lack self control and discipline so even if they win big they will continue to gamble hoping to win even bigger but generally that never happens and at the end they loose everything that they have.
This is a sign of greediness which you do tend to play even more because you are confident that you can able to make more money out of those money and i cant see any reasons why gambling would really benefit into us since its just good for entertainment purposes not on making money or any other benefits that we do expect from it.

Well entertainment itself would already be a benedit that we can get from gambling. Its just that because of normal human emotions such as greed, we tend to want more from what it basically gives us. Gambling can be healthy too if we know how to properly handle ourselves
7627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC FN 110: Lewis vs Hunt Info and Prediction Thread on: June 07, 2017, 12:25:32 PM
Mark hunt's always been fun to watch though i didn't think he'd be a title contender considering the talent at the top of the heavy weight division. This would be entertaining to watch though with two very tough strikers going at it and i think the super samoan would ko lewis early Cheesy
7628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA FINALS (Golden State Warriors vs Cleveland Cavaliers) on: June 07, 2017, 12:21:17 PM
The Cavaliers will be playing on their home court today and if they win todays game, they can keep their hopes alive. A defeat today will surely mark the end of the series. I hope this goes to the seventh game of the series like the previous year.

I agree. A loss would mean that last years feat won't be replicated. It's bad enough to be down 0-3, it's even a lot worse if it's against a team like gsw with kd at the helm. Game 3 would be the deciding game in this series and hopefully the other cavs would step up bigtime to help lbj.
7629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: June 07, 2017, 12:18:13 PM
It will be shame only if people around you would come to know that you are earning money from gambling or unless I don't think there is any shame or we should be afraid of being a gambler.

Lol, for sure if no one knows our gambling habit there's no need to be a shame. That's why we need to keep this actions secretly even to our close friends or family members.
Well if you're earning, i don't think there's anything to be ashamed of. I wouldn't mind what other people would think if i'm consistently earning and making a living off gambling. What's shameful here is when i'm already gambling beyond my means and even resort to borrowing money. That's a very bad image you'rr setting up for yourself if you're like that
7630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: June 07, 2017, 12:15:13 PM
I had stopped gamble with anything above 10 dollars, i dont know when to stop being winning or loosing i go till i hit some big ammount or loose all my balance. The thing is gamble is something that i do avoid the much i can, but sometimes i do make a sport betting, saying if i win ok if no well gone, i dont take it seriou and i dont risk too much.

His could just that gbling doesn't appeal to you too much as it does to other people. It depends on the person and if a certain gambler realizes that he's enjoying too much, then he's exposes to the negative effects gambling can bring which includes greed.
7631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: June 07, 2017, 12:12:26 PM

GSW is the strongest team in the NBA right now and we can't deny it because you can see how the players of the GSW play. The only way that cavs will win the series if all of them will contribute in the game. They just need to play defense on the GSW. If GSW win tomorrow the chance of sweeping the cavs is high or if the GSW manage to snatch a 1 game on the road we will going to see a 4-1 series.

Cheers to all GSW fans here!  Grin I am excited for the GSW and hope they bring the bacon. I always watch their game and even replay it on youtube again. Hopefully, they will declared winner!!!!

GSW right now is a superteam, no doubt about that. The Cavs just have to regain their composure, and Irving to play like he did last year.
We'll people have been saying all these about how strong gsw is last year when they went up 2-0 and then the rest is history. We can't really tell though i like the chances of gsw this time basically because of kd. The guy brings so much to the already string team that the cavs would likely get swept if they don't get their acts together especially nbr2.
7632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: June 07, 2017, 12:08:45 PM
I can say yes. Because bitcoin provide anything that gamblers want, easy to use, easy to make a transaction, low fee, anonymous, many online gambling that using bitcoin too. I'm sure many online gamblers happy about the existence of bitcoin.

Yes, once the fiat gamblers are aware of the convenience provided by bitcoin, I'm sure more of them will use bitcoin to fulfill their gambling activities.

And if you look at it, bitcoin features are fit for gamblers in most aspects. Security, anonymity, ease of use, these are mostly what gamblers would be looking for when they gamble. It probably ia not yet known to all gamblers out there but surely once they know about bitcoin innovation, they'd prefer to gamble with it
7633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: June 06, 2017, 10:44:10 AM
When you guys are gambling and already doubled your bankroll, do you still play with the whole money you got or you take away half of your bankroll and start playing with your profit or not?
People will surely have different answers regarding on this question because it does really depend on what kind of gambler you are because some may will still play even they double their bankroll and some eventually stopped as long they are gaining profits because they are securing profits to minimize losses. In my case i will withdraw out first my bankroll or capital and play on the profits if i saw that i have the luck to proceed,it may work sometimes but not consistently.

people have different nature and attitude and perspective on gambling and on how they will manage their money if i were to choose what to do i'm gonna withdraw my investment and i will start playing my profit and if my money multiply again i'm gonna withdraw it all but if i lose that profit i'm gonna stop that day and remind myself to stay cool and wait for another day

Well if i manage to win an amount, i won't just play with my profits but withdraw everything and give it up for another day. I've learned lessons with being hooked into poker for a time and i've managed to practice restraining myself when i already earned more than my capital. Though of you're really up for it, it's sensible to play only with your profits instead of risking to lose your capital
7634  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: June 06, 2017, 10:40:46 AM
As the title says, do you think that you're addicted to gambling? or you just don't realize that you're addicted Roll Eyes
If you ask me, i used to addicted to gambling but stopped after suffer big losses even though i'm still in profit.

Thankfully for me, i've learned my lesson and ceased gambling seriously even before i lose a big amount. It's wasn't about the winningnor losing for me back then but tge feeling of gambling or playing poker itself that made me in a way addicted. What made be quit was seeing people i know selling belongings or going in debt just to support their gambling needs. I didn't want to get to that point

Of course I'm not addicted in gambling, I just played and do gamble but it doesn't mean I'm addicted unto it.
But I often lose in the gambling sites every time I do gamble.
7635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 06, 2017, 10:37:33 AM
It is very addicting to you because you still have some recovery to do . I know of gamblers who will just not give up because they've lost money and that's the wrong attitude because you might fall victim big time to addiction if you don't have self control as a gambler.

Yeah i know that feeling. Your mind is telling you to stop and don't give in but your body reacts in thr opposite. It's either you're having way too much fun, or you've lost a big amount and would want to chase it back or you're just being too greedy and is expecting to win more.

From my perspective, Self-control is the key to getting away from gambling addiction. With self-control, we can know how to gamble and when to stop. And I do not think that all non-addicted gamblers can not control themselves, but all self-controlling gamblers will not be addicted.
7636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: June 06, 2017, 10:34:46 AM
Feelings that can not be expressed in words, happy, satisfied what I have, hoping every game always won it   Grin

This is what I'm feeling and it's one of my best feeling ever. That is what I'm wishing every time I win in gambling but the sad fact about it is that there will be the time that we will lose. And you need to be ready about it but when you are winning just taste the essence and feeling of being a winner.

Thise facts need to be accepted and i think you have to expect that you will lose as much as you'll win in gambling. Winning feels way better if you've already felt how it is to lose money. And you definitely will know how it feels to lose so i winning would have more sense of elation. This probably is the reasob a lot of people get addicted to gambling
7637  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: June 06, 2017, 10:30:35 AM
In my opinion, trading is more risky because money is at stake more, in contrast to skills Wink
yes its true, trading is more risky than skill based gambling. in gambling sometimes we can understand and memorize the patterns of the game or should be the algorithms of it, although we cannot be always win what important is we can read it, in trading we cannot predict the coins, i think it more safe to gambled than to trade, in my own experience trading is more risky.

It looks like you may be liking gambling more because as per you gambling is safer that trading. If you don't know trading then surely you can't make money from it but risk wise it is less compared to gambling. In gambling, you must be lucky to win and all those patterns will never help you to win money but if you learn trading then you will surely make profits in the longer run. Just remember don't leverage more money and go for day trading. Buy some good coins and wait for the right time to sell then you can make profit from trading.
. I get your point in saying that there will be times when skill based gambling is safer than trading and i agree to some point. Though for me, there are more in trading that you can study that will make you end up with a good trade like how to read candlesticks and past movements. There are a lot of books and references that we can study to improve our trading skills, same as to how we can improve our skills in some gambling games
7638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: June 06, 2017, 10:21:56 AM
I have seen some gamblers doing really crazy things while they gamble, but it didn't bring them any luck at all.
I don't believe in superstition, nothing can change outcome, not some crazy items, wearing the same clothes etc, gambling is just math game with odds against you, nothing more.
Maybe you do not believe in superstition but many peple say sometimes believe in superstition can help you a little. I'm one of those people who believe and believe it or not, I've won just because i believe in superstition. for example, players from club that win champion league, one of the will win fifa ballon d'or. last year i won bet ronaldo win ballon d'or and for this years, let see.
I do agree with you sir i am also a superstitious believer so everytime i went or play gambling i use to believe what i wear i have won two times with that same day also and i will advise that if superstition has a good effects and result why not but if not it is bad stop it and play with your specific stratedgy . It is only simple right don't make your life miserable overdo the things that wont work on you.
we do really have beliefs on our own life on any situation and its not bad to follow them as long you dont hurt anyone on doing it.Talking about tshirt colors i think it does affect on other people but for me doesnt work thats why i dont really bother to think up on those tshirt colors because i really believe no matter which color you wear if luck isnt on your side you will surely lose up no matter what.
You got some point there ,having different opinions is good to hear but asidr from the luck the experience and the superstitions that will bring confidence to gamble is good .And wearing a coloured lucky t-shirt of a superstition will set your mood and mind to a good play bets. Luck is needed but ofcourse it will depends on the person how he will use it when he feels lucky that day.
Being confident to play does really help you when you are playing gambling because your mind is conditioned enough to make good bets and strategies on playing but a reminder dont get too confident because once gambling will break your expectations then it does really hurt too much and frustrate you in the end of the day.

Indeed. Believing that a certain amulet or routine can boost your chances of winning can make you confident and will make gambling a lot more fun as well. People who believe in superstition when gambling sometimes really get a bit lucky for some reason
7639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: June 06, 2017, 10:18:49 AM
It is true that giving up gambling is not that easy to do in the actual. It may takes time or process before make it happens,
But for others opinions according to them, if you really wanted to change or to give up gambling addiction it will only happen if you decide it now to leave or stop it anymore.

It really will take a lot of time before you can give up gambling. But I admire those gamblers that are able to quit gambling for an easy way and can do it for only a short amount of time. And also I do salute also those addicted gamblers that was able to survive and surpass this type of addiction that leads them to bankruptcy and taught them a lesson.

Well these people that can quit gambling at any given time are those who know how to properly prioritize. Of course if you don't give gambling more time and effort that it needs, you won't have a gard time dropping it. What's more admirable are those that got addicted but were able to go through quitting. It takes a lot of determination and self restraint to do that and being able to do so is very respectable
7640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: June 06, 2017, 10:15:51 AM
It depends on what type of game you play if you choose dice or roulette you don't need analysis just make sure you can control your emotion while sports betting and poker needs analysis about the card or the team of each match with thinking and searching any additional information.

as i don't playing gambling games beside for only playing dice, then i will only said, i don't used any analysis when playing gambling because for playing dice games, i only click the push button and then waiting for what number that will be out as the winner. it is sadly because my chance to be a winner is not big but as i only want to enjoy the games, then i think its not be a problem for me.
Well that's where you'll need to use proper analysis when you play games like dice. You have to think about the whole picture and not just the game itself. Think about how much would it be worth it to gbamble that day, or how long does your time and money would allow you to continue gambling.
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