http://www.therainforestsite.com/

-MarkM- ( have you eaten today? http://www.thehungersite.com/ )

Quote "If it is profitable then it is not, by definition, a waste."

Don't let's get started on that outside the Economics section.

-MarkM- (Other than to blithely claim it is to me a very dubious assertion (no date of calculation of bottom line, possibly other points))

Quote "Its like they dont want anyone investing in the country ...."

Since with CJ et al it's about them paying me "affiliate commissions", it seems in such cases more about the U.S. doesn't want them investing in potentially anti-U.S. terrorists.

(Or who knows, maybe any terrorists, even pro-U.S. terrorists. What is the likelihood of that? Hmm...)

-MarkM-

In my experience the U.S. seems to tend to want a form officially affirming I am not from the U.S. and further something about how much business I actually do in the U.S. or how totally I can really claim to not be U.S. or something like that. That might have been about some other form than the one discussed here but was something someone did need for me to do business with them due to they themselves were in the U.S.

-MarkM-

The form of biting implemented in browsers by clicking on the displayed string doesn't seem to work, which seems to detract from the biteableness of the referred text.

My browser did however bite on an earlier recommendation but I have not yet gotten to the thusly created browser-tab to actualy digest bitten-off tabful of data.

-MarkM- (And it's the one claiming to be html I 'bat', not pdf or suchlike (those would have lower priority for technical reasons.)

(Thinking of html versus other formats reminds me Bucky Fuller's "Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth" is html. What the heck brand of economics if any would that fall into? Un-austrian? Somewhat austrian? Anti-austrian? Not-economics? Pseudo-economics? Etc...)

(Yes I know, I too failed to make my mention biteable. What for would a link to the BFI be wanted here if e.g. it is totally alien to all things austrian?)

The government of the Hacker nation on the planet known as B13, colloqially known as "Bitcoin" or "Planet Bitcoin".

Next poll: who will be the first to *pay* such taxes, and how does anyone know that 1FZRuiMdiaeuYLDpTgKEpZFXJqx8tzKxUf is the right address to send them to?

Even if they published such an address, how do we know they will actually credit such payments against such taxes?

-MarkM-

Quote "Hey, if my machine cuts your head off at night, it's not my fault - I told you not to touch it"

Yeah but the Organic Peripherals Manual Page claims mantrap and/or spring gun use also fires up certain Organic Peripheral Behavioral Subroutines...

-MarkM-

Yep and unlike the MiB they might even be able to do it without getting too totally in the bad graces of their friendly neighborhood Hackers.

Google Simmer of Code, anyone?

-MarkM-

According to some prognosticators or propagandists we will have warp drive on or about 2063.

So beware of fundamentalists who wish to bring about that prophecy by causing world wide disaster prior to that time in fulfillment of that line of prophecy. (Some Galactic Milieu inhabitants refer to it as the Pointy Eared Aliens Nexus, when humans are supposedly to meet elves or whatever one likes to call one's pointy eared friends.)

Reaching 2063 without that predicted / plotted / planned / intended / prophesied / prognosticated disaster becomes more and more important to the agenda of the Institute of Chronodynamics as 2063 approaches.

Note that we have heard prognosticators / plotters / whatever claim "my divination was purely for entertainment purposes" before. What is it's market value in *your* market of ideas / excuses / claims / purports?

Among Earth's prognosticators those "behind" the pointy eared alien encounter plot might not be the most accurate.

-MarkM-

Yeah. I think it might have been one of the Marines (as in once one always one aka maybe "retired") on NetMarketingForum (a dot com) who brought up some great possible quote possible mere top of head summary along the lines of

What has violence ever achieved? Other, of course, than abolishing slavery, ending this that or the other world war, accomplishing this that or the other great thing.

It was a pretty decent-sounding list of accomplishments actually. Uh, I mean wow it was a nicely crafted piece of propaganda. But hey like I said I think it was one of the Marines so military grade is to be expected, yes?

Maybe googling could come up with it even, not sure.

(Hmm maybe it was "accomplished" not "achieved" and in answer to a googly-famous poem or work that had a different bias...)

-MarkM-

Editted: added "abolishing slavery" as one of the accomplishments/achievements I recall.

Well maybe Marx had a stash someplace. Anyone find it yet?

-MarkM-

How did they guess she'd tell the truth? Isn't she some kind of political figure? Hahaha.

No but seriously, keeping track of which pet I had and what school I was at according to which place other than MI5 who likely can find out the true info gets to be a lot to keep track of.

-MarkM- (That's a "five" not a "bee", by the way. )

(And since I can put the burden of knowing the right answer on them, why tell them either? Hahaha cool. )

So maybe a high tech or newfangled or bloated transaction system would have a signal it sends out saying watch out I am duplicating keys to this wallet, watch closely to make sure its contents only get spent once.

But wait, isn't it true of any wallet that whoever has the key(s) can try to double-spend? Run a client on the other side of the moon or mars or other world (earth even maybe, who knows) and synchronise spending from two far apart wallets?

What for is a second party needed to make danger of double spend?

All that said though you could still put it into a state of "needs to be emptied into another wallet using another key".

Actually, in transit that starts to seem reminiscent in some way maybe only semantic/wordplay to Open Transaction's term "purse". It's not but still we could call it that, to distinguish it from a wallet. Purses are issued by wallets and unspendable until assimilated into a wallet via a changing of keys process. (We could say. These purses are mere stealing and subverting of a word used in Open Transactions and bear less and less resemblance likely even starting from zero resemblance in the first place to Open Transactions usage of the word. But the idea of using both words (wallet and purse) I stole from there.)

-MarkM-

Maybe simple abandonment? The owner went off to bed instead of staying in the factory making shoes so by default he now owns a bedroom for the night while the night shift owns the factory for the night?

Then later they go off to own a bed someplace and the dayshift takes ownership of the factory?

-MarkM-

Earlier poster seems to imply they are cheated out of ownership of the shoes but I think Marx was more about they were cheated out of the tools of their trade - the means of production. (In Celtic "triads" the tools of one's trade is one of the three things that cannot (as in must not / should not) be taken from someone.) (Actually it was sexistly worded though at least in translations I've seen as compared to some brands of antisexism.)

So maybe if the workers should own the factory they make shoes with the capitalist should own the propaganda machine (money or whatever) used to herd workers into the idea that owning a shoe factory aka making shoes in one is a good idea?

-MarkM-

Quote "Why not to the workers who made machines used by the factory? And to the workers who mined raw materials?"

Because they are workers? Therefore like all workers they were cheated out of the products of their labour?

-MarkM- (Just guessing... More likely because they are now in process of owning the places they are making machines and mining in?)

Edit: I thought it was workers own the means of production, not workers own the products others go on to use to produce things...

But that puts all these rocket surgery fingering systems out of work!

-MarkM-

Some of the "traffic exchanges" would reject the very password I had still in my paste buffer and upon looking more closely at the plaintext email I saw it wasn't working because they had lowercased it. Ouch.

It was actually a while before passwords longer than 8 characters were even allowed in many programs. Even some Minix or Unix or Linux cant remember which types of things (maybe that Atari unix) used to only actually use the first so many characters, though they were at least consistent in that they chopped them when you tried to use them too instead of making you guess how many characters they actually had chosen to use.

I have seen that latter though at least once I just can't remember where.

Three failures and you're out a minute or more only allows about 1440 * 3 tries on any given account per day of brute force. Luckily for the brutes there are so many sites out there that three tries on each account at each site that has login can keep them busy a minute probably easy. (?)

Your bank doesn't tell you to use the last 4 digits of your social insurance number as your PIN so you'll remember it easily???

-MarkM-

I didn't realise not defacing coin of the realm didn't extend to not defacing paper money.

Maybe its more a matter of whether it actually loses face though than whether you used it as a napkin to scrawl your solution to the theorem Fermat didn't quite get to before he died.

-MarkM-

For those who do wish to fabricate web-identities fast and easy (identity spammers might love that idea, no proof of work, awesome) a service that will create for you an account on each of the biggies like ... well, more than I am likely to be able to type offhand, gmail, yahoo, hotmail, myspace, facebook, sourceforge, twitter (yeah, knotwork caved, it's on there but not used), heck I am not even in digg and slashdot yet, darn that proof of work requirement, do I want to spend more time creating this identity or backtrack and start establishing my notgaymarkm identity first on all the places I already am on? Hmm. An identity-spamming tool, eh? Interesting, tell more...

So thanks for the clarification.

We did all this work, archive.org even did some for us wow how altruistic of them to save all our info for us without even spamming us with "can we do this" requests, now you propose to consolidate all the work we did to make it clear it is a large body of work that possibly the identity-spamming tools of the time weren't up to doing for us. Maybe even if notgaymarkm is dubious this markm sure is a long term scam with a lot of work put into it!

I am mildly surprised no-one jumped on archive.org with like hey I never told them they could publish *this* and *that* and omg they have *that too*!?!?!

-MarkM-