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7701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? on: July 13, 2022, 02:07:32 PM
It's hard to spot if a game is fix to be honest, there a ways to fix a game, it's not only on intentionally losing the game but point and total shaving is very popular in sports betting, however, it's not proven so if you are a bettor, you have to be clever when putting a bet, stay away from the public favorites.

Why? Are you implying a conspiracy of gamblers and bookmakers to "shave off" the betting public? I don't think it makes any sense because the bookmakers make their profit regardless of the outcome of the games, and besides, such activity will not only be a threat to business, but also a risk of going to jail (and given the number of people involved, this risk is high).
7702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Threshold of Loss in Gambling on: July 13, 2022, 01:56:10 PM
$300 in a day loss. I can still remember the emotional state it brought me after that.
It may be small for others but for a third-world country that's a month of salary now and even for a high-rank employee 5 years ago.
A stupid mistake trying to chase for my loss which we all know is an ingredient for chaos to lose more and it did happen.
I changed the game I play to sports betting because dice are where you wouldn't stop betting. Now, I only bet once a day and would not even reach that amount.

Chasing aka Martingale is also found in sports. Some bettors like to bet on a team until it wins/loses and this also leads to maximum losses. But of course it's hard to compare to dice where you can bet every second without having to wait for the next round of competition like in sports. I have also given up dice completely lately, although I really like this game and have focused on betting.
7703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 13, 2022, 01:43:53 PM
Lately I saw a video from PSG training that Neymar rejected to cooperate with Mbappe in training. He waited Messi to train with Messi. We knew Messi wants Neymar to stay and Mbappe does not want. So Neymar shows different reactions to these players.

It seems inside PSG, there are lot of internal conflict and with it, they will begin a new season with bad preparation.

I saw that video too, it's pretty funny. But that's to be expected when a conflict of interest arises between a former number one player and a new number one. On the one hand, I don’t understand why Neymar behaves like this - why openly show his disrespect, is there any practical sense in this? On the other hand, he has a valid contract and he spits on the opinions of everyone and lives as he wants ... in some ways he is right  Grin
7704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 13, 2022, 01:37:38 PM
Predicting Bayern is a champions in Bundesliga is a most boring prediction. Therefore the odds for betting it is not attractive but in most of season, you win. We will have to wait for a first half of season to see how Bayern and their competitors perform to predict final ending of season. I hope that we will have a more interesting season with this transitional season for Bayern.

Have you forgotten about the World Championship which will divide next season? Yes, Bayern will most likely be champions again without too much trouble, but in other more competitive championships (I think Italian and English) the world championship will be a factor that will make a difference. It is obvious that the shape of the players before and after the World Cup will be different, both depending on the result of the tournament and on who plays how many games there.
7705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: July 13, 2022, 01:23:25 PM
Barcelona are still in the pursuit for more players as they continue to struggle with financial issues.They have seen most of the players they wanted to sign turn them down because of the financial crisis at the club at the moment,therefore,they have decided to sell some of the players to make funds available so as to be able to get the type of players they want.A player in the calibre of Lewandowski and Raphinha. It is yet to be seen whether they will be able to afford them or not.

It seems that next week Barcelona will receive the first money for the sale of its media rights in the amount of 200-300 million. Perhaps this will speed up all the processes and the issue with Lewandowski will finally be resolved. I would be glad if this situation has already been resolved, since it is possible that other transfer decisions of the clubs, including the future fate of Ronaldo, depend on the transfers of De Jong and Lewandowski.
7706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 13, 2022, 01:09:06 PM
United have already agreed to this amount (and I can't say that it is any particularly large - if you pay attention, a lot of promising players now worth about 100 million) it's all up to De Jong now, but leaks say he's changed his mind about leaving. An extremely strange decision, Barcelona cannot even pay him the salary that he has already worked ... why stay in a crisis club?
In my opinion, there is no benefit for De Jong to accept an offer from United. he will only waste the opportunity to play in the UCL with Barcelona. After all, Xavi was quite successful with Barcelona in his first season as Barcelona coach, if he stays with Barcelona, he has a chance to make history for the Catalan legend by winning the La Liga title. With MU, what can be expected? just a chance to Play with Ronaldo. LOL
If he really wants to leave, I believe he will choose other club.

 Grin yeah, a chance to become champions of the galaxy. The only question is in what kind of reality?
Yes, United is in crisis, but this crisis is not comparable to the crisis that Barcelona is in - a financial collapse, managerial and ideological. I don't know why I hear this endless talk about Xavi's success (in my opinion he is pulling the team back) and about some chances for the championship - in the coming years Barcelona may forget about the title.
7707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: July 13, 2022, 12:39:22 PM
It turns out that if those who have already bet on Verstappen and lost their money will try to win back, then they will bet even more money on him in the next race ... so we will see even crazier odds like 1.4  Grin
It's pretty funny. In football or tennis, if a team does not win, the odds of winning it in the next game increase, but in formula 1, the opposite picture has been observed so far.
Doing a martingale on Verstappen? I mean not the worst of the ideas, of course he would eventually win one race, we all know that. But, will it be easy to do that? I mean it's not like you just gamble 100-200-400-800 in that situation, because to get it back, you need to gamble more than 2x of it to just recoup what you just lost, and that means if he loses 3-4 races in a row, you would be out a huge amount, depending on what your base bet was.

I am not saying it's a bad idea, I am just saying that you have to have a deep pocket to test something like this. This isn't dice where you can gamble a million times back to back, you need to make sure that you gamble a bit before you could gamble again after a week or even longer break.

I do not bet on formula 1. This is just my reasoning about those who bet on his victory with such ridiculous odds of 1.5-1.6. In my opinion, such bets are absolutely unprofitable whether it is a martingale or not. And I understand that even with such ridiculous odds you can be profitable (in the end, before the end of the season, Verstappen will win several races, this is obvious), but this will be 3-4% of profit in half a year - this is of no interest to anyone.
7708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dealing with ISP block on Gambling websites on: July 13, 2022, 12:34:03 PM
I do not see any other options other than how to use VPN, and only paid VPN. Free VPNs are slow, plus they are detected (since their public IP range is known) by almost all services that fight with VPN. I use VPN for other reasons, but it's obvious to me that if you need to get reliable access to blocked sites (especially when it comes to money), then you need to buy a good service.

Maybe because the site is restricted in your country. Some countries block and restrict sites but unfortunately, using VPNs on some gambling sites is against their TOS. If you're having a hard time accessing the site, you can look for reputable sites that are accepted in your country. You can surely find a good site other than that but be sure to check their reputation.

 Grin very naive to say so. Firstly, I do not like fiat casinos/bookmakers (as far as I know, the use of cryptocurrency in my country is completely prohibited), and secondly, in my country, most (I think all) casinos/bookmakers are scammers. I see the risks in using a VPN, but they suit me compared to other options: either not play at all, or play in fiat scam projects.
7709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Women's Euro 2022 on: July 13, 2022, 12:27:14 PM
Strange that Spain didn't manage to score. In my opinion, the match was even, but the German team got lucky and won the match. If you look at the stats of the game, it's on Spain's side, they had more attacks and the same number of shots on goal. But the realisation of these shots is zero.

I didn't see the game, but I checked the stats. In fact, it's even worse:

Shots 7 - 12
Shots on goal 2 - 3
Ball possession% 30 - 70

And the number of passes from the Spanish national team is twice as much. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to guess that this was another failed attempt to use TikiTaka. It works against weak teams, but not against strong ones.
7710  Local / Юристы / Re: Законопроект о криптовалютах on: July 13, 2022, 11:45:48 AM
Помойный рубль тоже криптой не является и неизвестно кем по факту контролируется, не понимаю однобокости ваших претензий.
Про надежность рубля писать на криптофоруме где в основном люди думают в долларах/битках это фейспалм.
Да, и вы прекрасно понимаете, что если будет стейблдоллар (евро, швейцарский франк и т.д.) с известным эмитентом, полностью контролируемый SEC (короче CBDC как он есть, но не из рфии) и прочими устраненными рисками то гондоны из ЦБ рф точно так же мямлить про риски и про то что надежнее рубля из говна и палок ничего нет.

Раз это было неочевидно, уточню: по умолчанию я подразумевал ситуацию с одноимённой парой: эмитированный неизвестно кем стейбл-рубль против CBDC-рубля (ЦБ РФ), стейбл-доллар против CBDC-доллара (ФРС). А так-то, конечно, активы разного рода могут иметь разную надёжность. Тот же венесуэльский боливар я пока бы считал даже менее надёжным, чем USDT.

И, разумеется, никакие CBDC криптой не являются. Просто мне кажется очевидным, что это фиат, поэтому я не видел необходимости это дополнительно акцентировать.

Ну вот этот маленький нюанс всё рассуждение под откос пускает. На мой взгляд нет смысла упоминать рубль и мнение шарашки ЦБ рф в обсуждении "стейблы vs фиат" так как рубль даже как фиат не СКВ.

В проблеме стейблбакс vs CBDC все довольно прозрачно: с каждой стороны есть разные риски и разные степени свободы то есть разные свойства. И говорить тут что "национальная валюта явно надёжнее псевдостейблов" изначально ошибочно так как это вообще разные продукты по совокупности свойств.
7711  Local / Новички / Re: Как я пришел в криптобизнес, и продолжаю зk on: July 13, 2022, 11:30:09 AM
Какая теперь разница, кем является блогер, если СМИ принадлежат манипуляторам?~

Откуда мне знать какая для вас разница. Разговор начался о плане Б как о шарлатане, я придерживаюсь мнения что это и не простодушный дурачок и не шарлатан, а инструмент влияния на идиотов.

Префарм ЧИА от префарма эфириума отличаются. Эфириум давно торгуется и ходлится, а у ЧИА монеты заблокированы, и пока не было продаж, у СЕК не будет вопросов. К эфириуму тоже не будет вопросов, потому что памятник Smiley

Ясно. Примерно как и трактор от помидора отличаются - помидор красный, а у трактора дверь наружу открывается.

Ты говоришь что решалы отнимают свободу. Ты не прав. Решалы вытащили биткоин и эфириум на крупные биржи, пролоббировали ETF, законы, создали компании и экосистемы,  чтобы хомяки смогли пользоваться криптой. Это не заслуга шифропанков. Без решал биткоин ничего бы не стоил.

Ох уж эти добрые решалы-альтруисты  Grin
Только вот ошибаетесь вы. Это не решалы, а лично Дед Мороз сделал.

Ты хочешь свободу, так используй анонимные монеты которые нигде не торгуются или ликвидность минимальная.
Никому не нужна такая свобода.

Это щас заявление от лица банковской системы было или перебодрились и прям от лица всех высказались?

Кто использует Taproot в биткоине? Кто использует децентрализованные мосты и биржи для торговли в эфириуме? Вам такая свобода неудобна. Промытые мозги и лень разбраться с технологией, когда есть банки, ETF, централизованные сервисы.

Прежде чем рассуждать о промытых мозгах неплохо бы пройти курс элементарной математики  Roll Eyes Если использование "инновационной технологии" дороже других работающих методов, то она существует/работает только в фантазиях сектантов так как с точки зрения рынка ее просто не существует.
7712  Local / Новички / Re: Как я пришел в криптобизнес, и продолжаю зk on: July 13, 2022, 08:20:28 AM
Ну то есть честно заблуждающийся идиот?
Сомнительно. Имхо фрики с логарифмическими графиками где можно быть "очень точным" с прогнозами +- километр ниоткуда не берутся. И наверно поэтому Бутерин (который побольше нашего знает) вообще обратил на него внимание и сказал удалить ему аккаунт нахуй, когда тот обосрался и начал свой график перерисовывать.
Если он на этом зарабатывает, почему идиот?
~

Это вообще может быть продукт СММ отдела которые ведут параллельно еще 10-20 таких проектов. Я и написал что это не идиот, а инструмент влияния (на идиотов).

А аргумент про "раз зарабатывает значит не идиот" вообще бредов по своей сути, но не будем уходить в оффтоп.

Apytioh, на СЕК есть управа в виде решал, которые убедят политиков не трогать нужные проекты, за эфириум я спокоен, за другие нет.

Только вот там где есть решалы там нет свободы от их решений. Соответственно "борцам с банковской системой" (или верующим в монеты борцов с банковской системой) должно быть пох в банк нести деньги или в "нужные проекты" которые точно так же этими решалами контролируются = смысла в этих проектах ноль.

Гари Гэнслер недавно заявил что пока только Биток подходит, так как у него не было
токен-сейлов, Сид раундов, эир-дропов от разрабов или рефералок. В своем большинстве 99,99% криптовалют делали что-то
из вышеперечисленного, поэтому по факту ценность и регуляцию в большей степени будут иметь те проекты, которые органически
добывались майнерами, то есть биток и наверное большинство его форков. Эфир например был закрытый раунд продаж на самом старте,
этот факт может быть большой проблемой. У риппл в таком раскладе огромные проблемы, чтобы они там не говорили.
Но есть теперь еще Чиа. Эти ребята очень умные, и действуют пошагово очень продуманно. Коэн как-то говорил, что одна из основных
задач компании не попасть под запреты регуляторов. Чиа однозначно станет ценной бумагой и акции компании будут торговаться на фонде.
Они же публично заявляют, что постоянно работают с СЕК, обмениваются вопросами, пытаются все сделать красиво и правильно.
При этом у Чиа есть огромное преимущество перед битком. Во-первых они публичные люди, нет таинственных Сатоши, во-вторых
есть компания Чиа Фаундеишн с инвесторами на борту. В-третьих первые Чиа добываются здесь и сейчас, тут нет первых 10млн монет
добытых с 2009-2013 до первого халвинга не понятно кем как у биткоина.    

Не пойму логики - у Эфира, Риппла проблемы, а у Чиа 21 лям монет префарм (это 84% всех монет на данный момент, 50% всех монет в ближайшие 20 лет и 44% в ближайшие 50 лет) все заебись?  Grin
С таким префармом говорить что Чиа "добываются здесь и сейчас" довольно смело.
7713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Threshold of Loss in Gambling on: July 12, 2022, 10:21:16 PM
Gambling is fun. And it doesn't matter whether you go to a land-based casino to bet or an online casino. When we bet, we celebrate our wins and count our losses. According to this study, the researchers found that gamblers are satisfied with small wins and will tolerate small losses but when they hit the threshold of loss, they will not play anymore.  I will attempt to define threshold of loss as regards gambling as the minimum intensity at which a gambler can no longer tolerate a loss.

My question is, can you remember a time when you reached your threshold of loss while gambling?

The budget allocated for gambling can be of different sizes, so in each case the loss threshold is different. The only question is the discipline that allows us to stop in time, but if we are discussing the situation when the player himself ceases to want to play after a series of defeats, then I don’t know how to determine this threshold for me personally. Thank God I haven't reached it yet.
7714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 12, 2022, 10:00:58 PM
Obviously, Neymar is not leaving PSG now, the luxury that PSG offers is hard to come by with other clubs. One of the reasons Neymar moved from Barcelona ​​because PSG offered double the salary he received at Barcelona. PSG ambition to win the title on the Europa stage is no joke, PSG are willing to spend large sums of money to achieve their dreams, including extending the contract of Neymar who does not always appear consistent as the most expensive player PSG has ever had.

The contract was extended automatically. As I understand it, the only option that could prevent the automatic extension is the desire of the player, but Neymar wants to stay at PSG. After dissatisfaction with him at the club, he made several loud statements that everything would be fine next season ... but I don’t even know if he can keep his promises even if he wants to - the next season will be broken by holding the World Cup and what this will lead to is unknown .
7715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 12, 2022, 06:15:50 PM
It has been reported that Robert Lewandowski undergo medical tests at Bayern Munich in the morning. Performing routine tasks is what he does. Despite this, he remains confident about his departure. While Lewandoski has made it clear that he wants to leave, he has not altered his plans. Although Barcelona is confident, negotiations with Bayern still need to be conducted. The work is in progress. Lewandoski cannot be obtained if Barcelona cannot release Frekie De Jong.

The news is that De Jong has changed his mind about the transfer, but I don't think the two transfers are that much connected. In the end, Barcelona were going to get a lot of money from media rights sales, the amount is in the region of 700 million, so in my opinion they will find money for Lewandowski (maybe the delays continue due to the timing of the deals, but if Barcelona has time before the end of the transfer window, then everything will be ok).
7716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: July 12, 2022, 06:03:13 PM
Vinicius is only 21 years old. He is still young and not experienced enough. Maybe he doesn't perform well in the winger position. But it is wrong to say that he will not be able to become a worthy striker in the future. If he is hardworking and if Real Madrid coach Carlo Ancelotti cooperates with Vinicius properly, then Vinicius may become a worthy striker.

At the end of the season, I looked at the statistical report on Vinicius and it was obvious that over the past year he had made a lot of progress and increased his efficiency in almost all indicators. If he continues to work in the same way, then he will not have any problems either with the position of a winger or a striker, by the way, Ronaldo was also a winger at the beginning of his career, but then without any problems (except for the endless work hehe) he became a striker.
7717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: People are not only gambling to win but they are buying entertainment on: July 12, 2022, 05:55:18 PM
I wrote a long time ago that I am surprised by people who complain about "losses" in gambling. Similarly, we "lose" money when we go to the cinema to watch a movie or to a restaurant to drink wine at a price of x5 of the usual price. This is the entertainment fee. And most people, in my opinion, understand this well, and those who try to make a profit out of entertainment get mostly only disappointment.

These are players who are thinking to win and try to challenge the house edge, losing in gambling is inevitable you're naive if you think losing is not normal the key is how to take your losses and feel the fun and excitement in playing, if you get depressed playing then you have the wrong idea and mindset.
You're already a winner if you win or lose then have fun and you can log out and say
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wow what a game that's exciting

In my opinion, the key to success is to enjoy the game is to make enough bets to have time to get both wins and losses. If a person makes one big bet and wins it, then of course he is happy, but if he loses, he is upset because, in addition to losing money, he did not have time to enjoy the game. In my opinion, doing so is wrong.
7718  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io - UFC on ABC 3 Multi Master Challenge - (Saturday) on: July 12, 2022, 05:43:52 PM
12) Brian Ortega
11) Amanda Lemos
10) Muslim Salikhov
9) Sumudaerji
Cool Shane Burgos
7) Miesha Tate
6) Punahele Soriano
5) Jack Shore
4) Bill Algeo
3) Dustin Jacoby
2) Dwight Grant
1) Emily Ducote

Match 12 Total Strikes 88
7719  Local / Юристы / Re: Законопроект о криптовалютах on: July 12, 2022, 05:34:00 PM
Банк России выступает против легализации стейблкоинов
Банк России рассматривает цифровой рубль как альтернативу стейблкоинам, которая сочетает в себе надежность полноценной валюты и преимущества цифрового платежного средства.
ЦБ утверждает, что стейблкоины не могут быть надежными инструментами, так как эмитентов токенов практически никто не контролирует. Цена такого актива не може быть стабильной.
https://whattonews.ru/bank-rossii-vystupaet-protiv-legalizacii-stejblkoinov/

Вне зависимости от того, что я думаю о других заявлениях ЦБ РФ, тут я с ними полностью согласен: цифровая национальная валюта явно надёжнее псевдостейблов, которые по факту криптой не являются и неизвестно кем по факту контролируются. К сожалению, из-за обычной дичи в словах представителей ЦБ и эту мысль вряд ли кто оценит. Потому что про тру-крипту ЦБ тоже много чего говорит, что уже совершенно не соответствует действительности.

Помойный рубль тоже криптой не является и неизвестно кем по факту контролируется, не понимаю однобокости ваших претензий.
Про надежность рубля писать на криптофоруме где в основном люди думают в долларах/битках это фейспалм.
Да, и вы прекрасно понимаете, что если будет стейблдоллар (евро, швейцарский франк и т.д.) с известным эмитентом, полностью контролируемый SEC (короче CBDC как он есть, но не из рфии) и прочими устраненными рисками то гондоны из ЦБ рф точно так же мямлить про риски и про то что надежнее рубля из говна и палок ничего нет.
7720  Local / Новички / Re: [Merit] Вoзьми задание, поддержи форум контентом on: July 12, 2022, 05:17:35 PM
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