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7741  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: October 26, 2016, 03:19:27 AM
i think almost all of investments is scam Smiley after they get at they're quota they will become a scam like other investments scam :3 i think that we can't risk at investments because they will stole your btc Smiley they will let you profit low and they will get your high balance.

Our concepts are made in that way now, because we have seen a lot of scammers in the world of bitcoin that now even if a legit investment platform appears we would first think that it might scam us, and that is a right thing to do, doing some research before investing anywhere is always needed.
Ofcourse it needed because we are putting our hardly earned money it that so some investigation and discussion is needed . And more importantly when investing bitcoin because 90% of the bitcoin investing sites are scam sites or even more than that.

That is true. It is better to just invest in the bitcoin itself. Do you invest your bitcoin in the scam sites.

this is what many people do when they have bitcoin and don't know about trading. invest bitcoin by holding it for a long time is a good thing for investment but don't forget, we can make our bitcoin more grow in amount. but of course from many sites that offering investment programs, there is only few of that site will real legit and pays the member. and all investment that we know have risk that we should thing.
If you are active in the community you can spot different kind of investment opportunity and you can grow more your bitcoins than holding it for a longer period or time, actually we just have to clarify here that when you hold the value will just grow but not the total numbers of your bitcoins but when you trade or invest that in a certain site you trust, for sure it will grow if you succeed.
7742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 26, 2016, 03:09:38 AM
No, gambling and trading is different things
because if we gambling we can play it only on gambling site
if trading we only do it on exchange or marketplace
but yeah both is have same risky we can get lose/profit when we trading and gambling
In the point of Risk both are same I agree, Because In Trading or Gambling both factors making money is not easy. Both have different play style in Gambling the profit depends on the game, But in Trading the profit depends on market price. But in both condition we need investment, and we have to put our money in a risk to make a profit.
Gambling is hard to succeed but trading there is a chance, the big difference is that the longer you trade the more chances you can master and might be profitable but in gambling those gamblers who gamble regularly are subject to losing as we can never master a game with a house edge.

i agree for the risk is the same for trading and gambling, but in trading, we only waiting for next jump for the price to sell it and in gambling, we have loss all of our money. both is hard to get succeed and its need work smart to get success and i think trading have a big chance to get success.

and i am not consider trading as gambling because the reason is in trading we don't loss all of our money, it has change into other form and waiting for next price to sell it.
It's not the same for me, as gambling has a house edge and the odds kills us if we are aiming on making money while trading can give us real and updated information that would be our basis to analyze the market to make an appropriate prediction that would give us success.
7743  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: SHARE NYO NAMAN PINAGKAKAKITAAN NYO on: October 26, 2016, 03:02:50 AM
Wow naman ,dami nio naman pinag kakakitaan,share naman kau kung panu kumita ang cellphone ,tutal freenet naman ako naghahanap ako ng mapagkakakitaan.

Magbasa basa ka lang chief madaming suggestion mga kababayan natin tulad ng stock market na mababasa mo nag uusap sila. Ako nakikibasa lang ako dahil interesado din ako sa stock market pero ang alam ko pinaka minimum amount na pwede mo iinvest ay P5,000 sobrang baba na nun para sa isang newbie lang.
Stock market investment are more secure but with your Php5,000 pesos as you investment, honestly that would not take you anywhere. Since weare here, why not just invest your money with bitcoin, the more you trust it with your investment the more bitcoin will succeed and give you money in the future.

I know it's a bit risky but that amount is worth risking for, it's our way to thank and support bitcoin.
7744  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Rank up anong oras ngayon? on: October 26, 2016, 02:48:06 AM
It's right, check on the spreadsheet it's forum time. I really remember those times when I was a Full Member, I was too excited to rank up as Sr. Member is something like an achievement for me for being active in the forum, and I actually getting the reward of my rank now..
7745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: October 26, 2016, 02:41:36 AM
Oh yeah many can be pretty profitable something people should look at is short term you might have some loses but long term investments will more then likely be profitable.
Because in the end the house always wins, for every big win it normally stimulates bets. And in most cases you see people lose back those big wins.

Counting on it Smiley
That's definitely the main reason why it is really good to invest in gambling sites, if only all the gambling sites we put our money in will stay in operation longer and will not our investment, life is so easy as long as we have a decent capital to invest.

That is why people say that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. This is because the rich have capital and use their spare cash to work for more money. While the poor will stuck in the rat race where they have to work forever to feed themselves and to get a roof over your head.
Yeah, but try to think of it, most poor or average people has the opportunity to invest in gambling sites as well since the minimum requirement to invest is not so big compared to non bitcoin casinos, but there is just something with the attitude of this people that they would rather gamble their money than invest as they do not want to wait longer to make profit.
7746  Local / Pamilihan / Re: EARN HERE GUYS on: October 26, 2016, 02:36:15 AM
Yan ang tinatawag na diskarteng malupit, basta magkapera lang kahit anong paraan kayang gawin, basta legitimate lang naman walang problema yang TS. Good luck nga pala sa iyo, kaso di muna ako mag participate kasi dami kung racket na ehh. Grin
7747  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: October 26, 2016, 02:22:42 AM
Guys the wait is over, so glad the NBA is back. I can't wait to see my beloved Cavs as reigning champs and hate watch the Warriors all season. It will be a long and mostly boring season in my opinion but I'm sure we are in for some surprises and unexpected turn of events (trades, injuries, etc). I'm also very interested in checking some exciting teams like Bulls, Knicks, Wolves & Celtics, sad to see Simmons out from Philly though.

Good luck to all degenerate gamblers!
Hahaha, I thought there are more Lebron haters here, but look what I have seen.. Good mate, thanks for loving the cavaliers, they deserved respect especially Lebron James for bringing his team a glory and for winning the championship.

Should be another season to watch, and Let's hope cavs will repeat.
7748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 26, 2016, 02:17:31 AM
Don't worry guys I will become rich in the near future, and I will never change my position saying "I will still gamble if I will become rich".
There's so much happiness in gambling and quitting when you have all the means to do it is a big sacrifice.

And as a person, I do not want to do it, I wanna enjoy my life more and feel the freedom money can give.
7749  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Total Ban sa Paputok on: October 26, 2016, 01:59:59 AM
I just really love the move of the government to ban firecrackers as in the past it damages the life of the many, we can still celebrate New Year without using that dangerous thing as what is important is to be our own family and hope for the blessing in the new year to come..

I will support the president if he wants to make the Philippines like Davao, there's peace so we can live peacefully.
7750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 26, 2016, 01:41:35 AM
Gambling is simply a game and a game is fun. That's why. But what's make it more fun is that there's money involved. The more money that you get, the more fun it becomes. You also get to socialize with other cool people that have the same goal as you - to hit the jackpot. I don't know about you guys but I also find the trolls in the chat box as fun to be with.
You are right, the fun in gambling will depend on how much we bet, the more we bet the more it is fun and it was just after the outcome of the game we realize that it is not fun when we do not win. But anyway, that is gambling and we need to accept the reality, we are here to enjoy not to make money..

Therefore it is just right to spend money while having fun..
7751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: October 26, 2016, 01:36:41 AM
I think experience matter in just some types of gambling games and not in all of them. Bust games like BustaBit are all random and you don't know in which multiplier is the next round going to bust. Dice sites are all random too. I think the games that experience matters the most are the ones that you are the one that is actually playing and you're betting at the same time. The result would depend on how well you did at that round or when you defeat your opponent.

Yeah, the experience really matters because if you are able to experience a lot of near to death experience as you gamble with your gambling.

Or I mean you are betting big amount of money or bitcoins, then in the future that will going to make you are risk taker.

And that will help you to become more productive as you are not scared more with risks.
If you will become a big risk taker in gambling, there are only two outcome that might happen into your life.

1. You will become rich because of gambling...
2. You will be broke because of gambling..

For me, I would not want to go that journey as I want to take things slowly but surely..
7752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what fun in GAMBLING? on: October 26, 2016, 01:31:48 AM
For me fun in gambling is where when you risk to bet to your favorite teams win or lose you will enjoy it , how your team plays while having the excitement because you have risk a money for your team.
That's the fun we are talking about, because we love sports betting therefore we gamble just to put some additional thrill in gambling, usually we lose because our team loses when we take points because sports as they say can be manipulated but that would be fine as long as we see our team compete and sometimes we can also experience some wins.
7753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: October 26, 2016, 01:27:13 AM
I'm from a poor country and Bitcoin helps me, does that count? Other alt coins help me too, and my family.
Bitcoin is money and money is almighty.

I dont know how bitcoin helps you,but yes bitcoin can certainly help many indiviaduals,providing cheap and quick online transactions or even providing some earning oportunities online as well.
In general it should be an online transaction convenience because it is safe and cheap using it, we cannot deny the fact that we are enjoying using our bitcoins in different online transaction and even in gambling and investing we can easy do it just a matter of minutes and while we are enjoying here bitcoin have also benefits for the poor countries which the worldwide remittance.
7754  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 26, 2016, 01:17:55 AM
World bitcoin, we can not predict anything. we could only figure out the, including the issue of revenue. I think one of the monthly income could become a mainstay is the signature campaign. we can achieve bitcoin for free every week.

Though the earnings from signature campaigns are not that much good but still we can really count them in the category if we talk about steady incomes as they pay us the same amount every week or month according to the posts or the ranks of our accounts.

Signature campaign is a good source for earning small amount of bitcoin during spare time. It cannot be a profession.

But signature campaign will not lasts forever so for me, that is just temporary. So for me, trading is the best way to get steady income with bitcoin. Because many traders are able to get a living out of their daily trading. And also if you are going to add your skills and services offered I think that would suffice to have steady income.
Therefore it is not good to rely only in signature campaign to get your steady income, there are possible ways to increase your income here so when you make it right it will continue to provide your profit as long as bitcoin exist. Investing in the only way I see a more visible way of making money and we can invest in different industry, especially in gambling.
7755  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 25, 2016, 02:06:49 AM
Gambling and to invest is just like throwing money but there are consencenques that you make face too in investment if that investment is really worth to trust like casino and accepting investment and there are already big names then you can really trust your money there although you say that you can really make profit there and in gambling you could lose money there any time when you are greedy and it can't really help your self on that.

Your post is too difficult to understand Sad. Anyhow, what I understand from you is that playing/investing on gambling site is like throwing money. Well, if you're right, I'm sure that there will be no gambler that roam on many gambling sites.

I may agree that gambling will be a wasting of money if you know how to enjoy your free time with other activities. But I don't agree that investing is also a wasting our money because all investments will come with some risks and we should take those risks to grow our money otherwise we can't grow our money in the long run.
There's no happiness in wasting money and I beg to disagree with the statement that gambling for fun is a complete waste of money. That I may not get any money in return but the entertainment is more valuable than money for me.
7756  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: October 25, 2016, 02:00:29 AM
off course is the bitoin not worth to me and that is only because there are allot of people who dont think the bitcoin would grow such big as he is for now but we all trust gold and that is all we want.

Why are you here then? Bitcoin is worth it because of the big price. It seems like a pyramidal scheme but I don't think it's ever going to end because of the next halvings that will take place in the next years. People will keep coming interested in Bitcoin, and the price needs to increase for miners to get profit. Therefore, it's profitable. However, gold will remain the only one you can use my any scenario.
If you will really understand and dig deeper about bitcoin, you will be thankful not only of the big price but the moment it was invented, we know already that it is designed to help humanity transact online with full freedom..

That cannot be argued as we have freedom to do everything we can with our bitcoin and that does not only limit to earning here but also to enjoy in different forms of entertainment online.
7757  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you use a bot for trading? on: October 25, 2016, 01:49:27 AM
I thought it would be interesting to know if you guys use a bot to trade bitcoin or altcoins..

Whether or not you do, if you were to make one, what rules would it based on?

I don't use one myself.. but am looking to get one built, and would welcome any suggestions on features and rules that you think would work..

Thanks!

I have never used a bot and was never interested in trading bots because you should be a very good developer (if they offer the source code of the bot of course) and understand how the bot works because that bot can lose our funds by pumping or dumping the price of the coin we want to trade

Using  bots are  just  like you are  automating your trades when  you are not around  but  it doesnt  even guarantee you to make   succesful trades with it. There are some  who  would  use it for convenience but  its better for me  to  do it manually.

yeah thats why i never try to use it since bots are just an imaginary profiter in my opinion, tradings really need personal interaction so we can earn from it and bots are just an acessory that can be wipe out immediately, although theres people telling that they are earning from it i would not still believe that there earnings are good as those people who join on pump and dump groups,  so the best thing to do trade really is to do it by ourselves and by this thing we can learn more lessons about tradings lapses.
I have not used bot in my entire life in trading and I will never used it as I do not hear any good story of success using bot. In dice I have tried once and I realize early that I am just fooling myself since there is a house edge and I cannot win in the long run, so I also think if I cannot be successful in dice when a system was implemented so how much more for the trade that the movement is base on the actual market status.
7758  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: October 25, 2016, 01:22:36 AM
I think bitcoin will not disappear unless bitcoin is banned on your country or It is illegal to use it your country. No one will use bitcoin if it is banned or illegal on your country unless your are a hard headed and you will get into jail
The only thing that would make bitcoin disappear now is when it will be banned by the government, it is not by country to country as normally when one country ban bitcoin it will be ban by other countries as well especially those who have allied, and by declaring it as illegal when using bitcoin, it wll lose the trust and confidence of the people.
7759  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 25, 2016, 01:15:50 AM
Making money without actually doing anything, that is like the holy grail, even investment will require that you check from time to time things up to make sure everything is running smoothly.


It is really not possible these days to just sit and get money from an investment, this is just what some people think how it is but the actual thing is different which is even if you make an investment you will have to work on that investment to make it go well as you said or don't let it go wrong and give you any losses.
I think that the only people who are lazy and do not want to work, and that only rely on investment income alone. they will not rich by it ?
What actual advantage to get a steady income? I think it would be better if you always get a huge income even though it is not always steady, become entrepreneurs dude ?


What? You are saying that people who are relying to their investments alone are lazy? What kind of thinking is that man, they are not lazy they don't want others to command them and since they are have capital for investing that's why they choose to have their own capital investments. And investing is much more effective to become rich rather than to be a normal employee.
Yes I agree with it they are some people that have a strategy to make  money like investment this is the best strategy by waiting and earn.
Actually it can be called as lazy but depends on who will evaluate the action, if you have a good amount of money then that would be the time to enjoy life and you do not need to work hard for your to earn money as you just let your money work for your. The thing is, we have different financial standing in life and rich have the capacity to do that.
7760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 24, 2016, 03:18:37 AM
Ive seen people rage hard on twitch while gambling.
Seen some dude smash his keyboard and cry.
It was in the casino games section of twitch.
That happens when you are not gambling responsibly, the reason behind is you put an amount of money that is not on your budget anymore because you are too confident that you will win but the outcome does not favor you because you play with your emotions and not in your mind and we know gambling sites are good in making trap to make us think that a certain bet is hard to lose.
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