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7781  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 26, 2016, 01:17:55 AM
World bitcoin, we can not predict anything. we could only figure out the, including the issue of revenue. I think one of the monthly income could become a mainstay is the signature campaign. we can achieve bitcoin for free every week.

Though the earnings from signature campaigns are not that much good but still we can really count them in the category if we talk about steady incomes as they pay us the same amount every week or month according to the posts or the ranks of our accounts.

Signature campaign is a good source for earning small amount of bitcoin during spare time. It cannot be a profession.

But signature campaign will not lasts forever so for me, that is just temporary. So for me, trading is the best way to get steady income with bitcoin. Because many traders are able to get a living out of their daily trading. And also if you are going to add your skills and services offered I think that would suffice to have steady income.
Therefore it is not good to rely only in signature campaign to get your steady income, there are possible ways to increase your income here so when you make it right it will continue to provide your profit as long as bitcoin exist. Investing in the only way I see a more visible way of making money and we can invest in different industry, especially in gambling.
7782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 25, 2016, 02:06:49 AM
Gambling and to invest is just like throwing money but there are consencenques that you make face too in investment if that investment is really worth to trust like casino and accepting investment and there are already big names then you can really trust your money there although you say that you can really make profit there and in gambling you could lose money there any time when you are greedy and it can't really help your self on that.

Your post is too difficult to understand Sad. Anyhow, what I understand from you is that playing/investing on gambling site is like throwing money. Well, if you're right, I'm sure that there will be no gambler that roam on many gambling sites.

I may agree that gambling will be a wasting of money if you know how to enjoy your free time with other activities. But I don't agree that investing is also a wasting our money because all investments will come with some risks and we should take those risks to grow our money otherwise we can't grow our money in the long run.
There's no happiness in wasting money and I beg to disagree with the statement that gambling for fun is a complete waste of money. That I may not get any money in return but the entertainment is more valuable than money for me.
7783  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: October 25, 2016, 02:00:29 AM
off course is the bitoin not worth to me and that is only because there are allot of people who dont think the bitcoin would grow such big as he is for now but we all trust gold and that is all we want.

Why are you here then? Bitcoin is worth it because of the big price. It seems like a pyramidal scheme but I don't think it's ever going to end because of the next halvings that will take place in the next years. People will keep coming interested in Bitcoin, and the price needs to increase for miners to get profit. Therefore, it's profitable. However, gold will remain the only one you can use my any scenario.
If you will really understand and dig deeper about bitcoin, you will be thankful not only of the big price but the moment it was invented, we know already that it is designed to help humanity transact online with full freedom..

That cannot be argued as we have freedom to do everything we can with our bitcoin and that does not only limit to earning here but also to enjoy in different forms of entertainment online.
7784  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you use a bot for trading? on: October 25, 2016, 01:49:27 AM
I thought it would be interesting to know if you guys use a bot to trade bitcoin or altcoins..

Whether or not you do, if you were to make one, what rules would it based on?

I don't use one myself.. but am looking to get one built, and would welcome any suggestions on features and rules that you think would work..

Thanks!

I have never used a bot and was never interested in trading bots because you should be a very good developer (if they offer the source code of the bot of course) and understand how the bot works because that bot can lose our funds by pumping or dumping the price of the coin we want to trade

Using  bots are  just  like you are  automating your trades when  you are not around  but  it doesnt  even guarantee you to make   succesful trades with it. There are some  who  would  use it for convenience but  its better for me  to  do it manually.

yeah thats why i never try to use it since bots are just an imaginary profiter in my opinion, tradings really need personal interaction so we can earn from it and bots are just an acessory that can be wipe out immediately, although theres people telling that they are earning from it i would not still believe that there earnings are good as those people who join on pump and dump groups,  so the best thing to do trade really is to do it by ourselves and by this thing we can learn more lessons about tradings lapses.
I have not used bot in my entire life in trading and I will never used it as I do not hear any good story of success using bot. In dice I have tried once and I realize early that I am just fooling myself since there is a house edge and I cannot win in the long run, so I also think if I cannot be successful in dice when a system was implemented so how much more for the trade that the movement is base on the actual market status.
7785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: October 25, 2016, 01:22:36 AM
I think bitcoin will not disappear unless bitcoin is banned on your country or It is illegal to use it your country. No one will use bitcoin if it is banned or illegal on your country unless your are a hard headed and you will get into jail
The only thing that would make bitcoin disappear now is when it will be banned by the government, it is not by country to country as normally when one country ban bitcoin it will be ban by other countries as well especially those who have allied, and by declaring it as illegal when using bitcoin, it wll lose the trust and confidence of the people.
7786  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 25, 2016, 01:15:50 AM
Making money without actually doing anything, that is like the holy grail, even investment will require that you check from time to time things up to make sure everything is running smoothly.


It is really not possible these days to just sit and get money from an investment, this is just what some people think how it is but the actual thing is different which is even if you make an investment you will have to work on that investment to make it go well as you said or don't let it go wrong and give you any losses.
I think that the only people who are lazy and do not want to work, and that only rely on investment income alone. they will not rich by it ?
What actual advantage to get a steady income? I think it would be better if you always get a huge income even though it is not always steady, become entrepreneurs dude ?


What? You are saying that people who are relying to their investments alone are lazy? What kind of thinking is that man, they are not lazy they don't want others to command them and since they are have capital for investing that's why they choose to have their own capital investments. And investing is much more effective to become rich rather than to be a normal employee.
Yes I agree with it they are some people that have a strategy to make  money like investment this is the best strategy by waiting and earn.
Actually it can be called as lazy but depends on who will evaluate the action, if you have a good amount of money then that would be the time to enjoy life and you do not need to work hard for your to earn money as you just let your money work for your. The thing is, we have different financial standing in life and rich have the capacity to do that.
7787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 24, 2016, 03:18:37 AM
Ive seen people rage hard on twitch while gambling.
Seen some dude smash his keyboard and cry.
It was in the casino games section of twitch.
That happens when you are not gambling responsibly, the reason behind is you put an amount of money that is not on your budget anymore because you are too confident that you will win but the outcome does not favor you because you play with your emotions and not in your mind and we know gambling sites are good in making trap to make us think that a certain bet is hard to lose.
7788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it Sports Betting is better than other type of gambling? on: October 24, 2016, 02:46:49 AM
I want to know why people always pushing sports betting as a type of gambling that can give the punters the best chance to win? I need your opinion on the subject and hope you guys can share your informative comments here.

They are doing and telling you that
Because in sports betting even though you
only have 50% chance of winning you still have
the freedom to choose which
is the winning team for you.


So it means that if you conduct a great research for some teams
that you are going to put your bet with
then you have a higher chance of winning.
I don' t even think your chances in sports betting is around 50%. There are some sports, like basketball and boxing where you can clearly predict who's going to win. You only would have to worry about upsets which doesn't really happen most of the time. And also the fact that if you bet on a clear winner, of course your earnings would be smaller. You'd still win though none the less

Ohhh come on,

How much or how many percentage is your
winning chance in a game where there are only
two choices to win?? Is it 50 % am I right.

Come-on try to think about what you are trying to
say, because some guys here are taking some post here
as a serious advice.

Maybe you are not a gambler at all that is
why you don't even know a basic thing like that.

No offense.
Experience will tell you what are your chances of winning, and it is not true that anyone can clearly see that a certain side will be a guaranteed winner. That's why it is called gambling because it is a game of chance, and most of the time, lines are created a little tricky to deceive the betting public to be on the heavy favorites.
7789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: October 24, 2016, 02:40:01 AM
If you want to be a winner in gambling without a lose,
First you must get lucky
Second, be smart when you gambling, don't waste your money in difficult games
Third, bet with high amount if you are 99% sure that you win.
Finally Good Luck.
I have sa a lot of lucky people who live a wealthy life and get success in every field of their life and get a good business successfully but when they come to play gambling then we see that the person lose all of their money and become poor.
yes there are so much lucky people there is no doubt about this but it is also a fact that through out my life i have never seen a single person who is really playing gambling and wining continuously without any lose.
Its impossible honestly to happen since no one can be perfect.. but if you are lucky it can be happen.. everything in gambling is base onluck but i saw some movies that some casino are dirty they are playing fraudulent..  
So you have a high risk they are already calculated all thats why they are choosing gambling as business..
That's the right explanation and a gambling site is keeping its focus on the heavy winners and they can tell easily if there is a problem with there system as it is not normal that a certain gambler can just gamble without any loss, I have not seen any gambler had that kind of experience as mostly I hear is that we always lose.
7790  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 24, 2016, 02:33:58 AM
if you don't focus on win or lose money,the bets can be fun. The problem is  when you bet waiting money because there is any guarantee. If you forget the money and start enjoying games you can make even more exciting games when you're  betting.

That's impossible to do, thinking that you are losing and yet you are still happy? that's not how to work out with fun...If you want fun there are other things that you can do without losing money... I think gambling should be done by those people with enough money only and don't care much about what they may lost...  Smiley

Actually the fun in gambling
is the excitement, thrill and challenge that we may felt
when we are playing in the game.

Additionally the winning may be add up to fun,
But Playing gambling without thinking about
the amount that you bet is kinda impossible,
Because you bet to be thrilled excited and whatsoever.
The fun is when the game is very entertaining and we will be having great excitement when we are putting a big amount of money and we hope it will give us a winning, other than that there is no fun anymore. When you lose your world will collapse because you put everything at stake, and for me that is the reason why people failed in gambling because of having so much fun.
7791  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: October 24, 2016, 02:28:46 AM
So a lot has changed over the last week with our investments. We have been very disappointed by Satoshi Dice and MoneyPot for nearly 3 months now and we see no signs why they will get any better. As such we do not believe they are worth investing in at this time and have pulled our money out.

MoneyPot was slightly negative and Satoshi Dice was slightly positive which gave us approximately 2 Bitcoins in total when we withdraw. We have now decided to invest 1.25 Bitcoins in Bitvest and the remaining 0.75 Bitcoins into SafeDice. This may seem illogical putting an extra 0.75 Bitcoins into SafeDice but please note our team already has significant investments outside of this experiment in the other sites that are performing very well.

So without further ado here is the latest summary after 2 months and 3 weeks:



If you want to read our review of Bitvest go here: http://bitcoingamblingreviews.com/bitvest/

Really cool dude, at least you know early what sites are not giving your profit, I believe you will continue to increase your investment in the remaining sites, I am actually closely monitoring on this thread as I have a plan to make additional investment in the gambling sites included in your experiment.
7792  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: October 24, 2016, 01:50:45 AM
I found a small poem online that I think really puts my opinion of this into words:
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank
Give a man  bank and he can rob the world

I don't think this is a good idea but it will probably happen anyway.
That somewhat true, the biggest criminal here is the bank because it robbed the whole world and the humanity. We cannot change the fact because we are living but their rules, that is maybe why bitcoin is created is because of the genius mind of satoshi to give freedom to the people to do banking without needing a bank.
7793  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: October 24, 2016, 01:47:10 AM
If you believe it's time to sell, you're in a pretty lofty club
Many investors, in fact, have taken up the bearish cause, yanking money from U.S.-focused stocks and shifting it overseas. By one measure, emerging market equity funds are seeing their largest inflows ever of investor cash. Bonds are raking in money, reflecting the pervasive risk-aversion dominating retail investor sentiment.All of this, of course, is the perfect setup — for a market rally.

Despite a decidedly mild downturn from late July to early August, the stock market has met all the pessimism with a convincing upturn. Not only was the S&P 500 up 6.7 percent year- to date heading into Monday trading, but it has staged a 19 percent rally off the February closing low, a time when it seemed as if U.S. markets were descending into what would be a prolonged funk.

For the bitcoin investment, it is better to hold it for the long term. Only sell it when there is a big price bubble.
That's the way to do it and we pray that the price will continue to increase so we can always sell for a profit, and we should not be greedy and we can only do that if we have a definite plan that we will be able to follow every time we sell, if we aim to sell when the price double then sell it directly.
we can only wait for a high price and then sell it, but who become confused is hat price is  highest price or not, because sometimes I sell bitcoin at a high price while riding, but then the price was back up and it made a loss of course, I think it needs great analysis if you think you want to sell all of your bitcoin at a high price,

When the price is increasing we are are expecting more for the price increase of bitcoin. That is why many are not selling as long as they are satisfied with the price.

And selling with the low price is not going to make you feel good because the price is just fluctuating very fast don't do sell immediately.
A goal should be followed when selling bitcoins, and that goal should ensure that we sell bitcoins for profit.

Actually, if we are getting greedy waiting for the price to rise more even though we have seen our desired price already based on our goal we might end up selling for a lose, the price is very unpredictable, sometime it will skyrocket and suddenly it will drop big.
7794  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: October 24, 2016, 01:42:30 AM
I will love cash to be with me as well as bitcoins,because is really important also in the real life.But talking about bitcoins,we cannot use cash online or sending the money all around the world cannot be possible with cash,but bitcoin makes that possible,in that case you should have bitcoin instead of cash.
Yes these both are important for us I have some cash for my local use and I have my remaining money in bitcoin and I have them in bitcoin because the future of bitcoin is much bright and in the future its value will be very high.
But there are a number of places where you can buy good with bitcoin so we do not need to keep fiat it is better to keep our money in bitcoin and have to use bitcoin as currency to buy things online from bitcoin shop.
Not all the things we need are found online, we have only limited stores online that accepts bitcoin and mostly they are selling digital goods. We need cash more that bitcoin if we are spending for our daily needs. For now, bitcoin is good as an investment and maybe you will consider as your needs if you love to gamble on a regular basis as what I see, gambling industry are very profitable because of gamblers who uses bitcoin.
7795  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: October 23, 2016, 02:08:03 PM
I do understand about the transaction fee is less in bitcoins but you miss the very important thing that is safty. If your dealing with a unknow person online then your main priority should be safty of our funds instead of worrying on small fee so when I deal with unknow people then I use paypal to pay them. Bitcoins are very safe but you always need to go through escorw to deal with unknow people.

That is the disadvantage of bitcoin, it is fast and less fee but you need to have an escrow to protect buyers. But if I have to chose between safe but will freeze your account (paypal) and fast, less fees but little bit risky (bitcoin), i'll choose bitcoin all the time.
It's actually depend on our interest, I do use bitcoin because I love to gamble and I do it regularly, and the fact that the rates are very low, it makes me gamble with ease and I can make transactions like even 100 transactions for a day without worrying the transaction fee, in paypal we cannot do that of course.
7796  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: October 23, 2016, 02:02:39 PM
Depends on the price point that you bought in, actually. If, say for example, at the end of a year you only gain $50 out of your investment or holdings, then definitely you shouldn't have kept those coins in your stash but instead just use those as your capital into trading or something else. My indication of a good time to buy and wait is when everyone else is selling and you're the only one left believing that bitcoin could still do it.
Actually as long as you can make profit that is a good sign dude, but talking of $50 means you are only putting a little investment. Basically, if you want higher income then it is just necessary also to put a decent investment as in my honest opinion, a long term investment will require a decent capital so we will not waste our time in case our investment will grow.
7797  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think bitcoin is one new step for sucess. on: October 23, 2016, 09:16:13 AM
Is bitcoin one new step for success? Well, for users that are hard worker, have patience and if they wanted to it, i would answer it as yes. Yes bitcoin can be one step to be a person become successful, but it only depends on a person if he wanted to be successful. Bitcoin is a one way on how to be successful because it is a great source of income nowadays.
Frankly speaking, bitcoin is not a source of income, it was created as a currency and not a job, whatever we are earning here, that is because a certain company that we are promoting is paying us bitcoins for our effort, and anyone can do that and even pay us fiat if they prefer, beside most of us here when we receive bitcoin we are just going to convert it to fiat.
7798  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: October 23, 2016, 09:11:43 AM
In one sense it would be good because having bitcoin bank will make the coin popular and some other guy would start using it. But in one sense it would be bad because having bitcoin bank will make the network untrustworthy because bitcoin is decentralized and automated but bank will make it insecure but if they make it automated then it would be welcoming.
If we will make you idea possible, I have a big question for you, who will manage the bitcoin bank?

That's the question that is hard to answer since banks are centralized and we are decentralized, so it should be the interest for everyone here and since we do not know each other how can we trust a person, literally bank is a business of trust.
7799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 23, 2016, 08:57:14 AM
i think that you should invest that your 1 bitcoin in Alt coin and i think that trading with Alt coin is much more better than gambling because sometime gambling is very risky and trading have too much lower risk than gambling.

I disagree with this. First, which altcoin are you talking about? Most of them are waste of your money for sure. But even if you are investing in an established altcoin you are taking the risk. It's like betting with 90% winning chance: if you win - you win small compared to your bet and if you lose you lose. I'm not saying you should gamble to increase your money, but trading is a risky thing too IMO.
sometimes we see that a slower altcoin start to increase in price much faster like pakcoin. a few days ago its price started to increase i thought it as a temporary increase and I thought that it will once again go down but today i saw that the price increased much higher and the people who invested in that coin got 3X their money.
That is happening even with other coins, and most of time when we think that a certain coin is not so popular or well funded will not be progressive. By the way dude, do not mind or regret that you have not invested as it will not last, I can see it is just another pump and dump game by the big bag holders.
7800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 23, 2016, 08:54:00 AM
Of course i gamble for profit, that's is why i gamble in sport bets only, if some day i want to gable for fun i go play poker, slots, or any other game that is fun to play
So you are not having fun gambling in sports?

I can prove now that not all people do love sports betting, personally my favorite game is sports betting and although I am not quite profitable for that game but it gives me more entertainment than I expected, now that NBA Regular season is about to start, I think I will be busy again.
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