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781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 05:45:16 PM
To XC community people.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.msg7112753#msg7112753

I should learn more english.

It's al-right mate, you did a good job. Loads of people here are a bit too quick.


He did a good job about what?
Seem you don't get what the test is about...

Show me that the transaction can be traced to an address, don't lookup to the address in a blockchain with few transactions, and guess the transaction based on the transferred amount and on the time.

That's just stupid...

He did no job...just some stupid FUD

Its no point in being able to guess an address when there are so few transactions, if you're not able to do so when the blockchain will contain lots of transactions...which will make tracing impossible.


Its like saying ... "yo test this car for me...it does not have all the wheels now, but it will have them..."
And the tester say ... "well, the car will not move...the idea of a car its flawed..."
782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 04:58:49 PM
Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. Smiley

Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount?

That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment.


Of course I do...

BUT, the community asked for the test. Even the dev put him up to it. If everyone knows how he did it, why give two shits whether he explains it or not? I don't see how arguing, whining, or complaining about it is advancing the discussion in the slightest.


The idea is to test if it can be tracked, not guessed...lol Smiley
That's why he tested it in a stupid way

He guessed.... what's your point. If you guess on a test and get it correct. It is no less correct. At this point you are criticizing the process, not the outcome. Which again, does nothing to further the discussion since everyone appears to already know the means why which he came to his answer.

Omg, ofc you can get it by guessing or just looking out there for that X transaction when there are not enough transactions

Anyway...
783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 04:53:08 PM
Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. Smiley

Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount?

That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment.


Of course I do...

BUT, the community asked for the test. Even the dev put him up to it. If everyone knows how he did it, why give two shits whether he explains it or not? I don't see how arguing, whining, or complaining about it is advancing the discussion in the slightest.


The idea is to test if it can be tracked, not guessed...lol Smiley
That's why he tested it in a stupid way
784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 04:52:01 PM
Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. Smiley

Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount?

That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment.



we were looking for the sender address, not receiver address.

Its the same thing... not enough transactions....
785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 04:46:08 PM
Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story. Smiley

Do you even understand that he just waited in the block explorer for an address to receive that amount?

That's just stupid. There are too few transactions for the moment.
786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 04:29:19 PM
At this point, it appears that if all you know is the receivers address and the amount that you cannot backtrack it to the originating wallet.  Am I correct?



cannot ?


With current desgin? nothing better than Bitcoin.

Ofc you can trace back only one address, but the point is to not know the both, sender and receiver.
Its impossible to track both

So GTFO...
787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 05:03:30 PM
what's going on with this new wallet, I'm not receiving coins from Cryptoalts nor are sent coins getting from the wallet to my mintpal account

its been like an hour now and no confirmations even for coins sent from the wallet ?


Everything is working fine, I just received coins from mintpal
788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 01:02:06 PM
Looks like someone does not want this over 21k..

Re Cinni, its just not a popular coin, it does have very swift transactions though and I do rate it, I just think there is no room for it...

The price is being kept artificially high by the 40k order @ 0.002, the market needs to correct and it can't. As soon as that order disappears we'll be back below 0.002 within minutes

Alternatively we are about to breakout, which I think is much more likely, I think the price is artificially low... Lets see who is correct.

Nope. The TA above is correct. We need to go down first before we can come back up again and attempt a breakout. This could last a few days.

The sooner idiot trader number 1 with his 40k order gets removed the sooner we can continue on with our downtrend, and the sooner we can reverse after that downtrend and attempt a breakout. Seriously. That order is reason the volume is so low. Everybody has their finger on the sell button but while that huge order is still on there's no point.

Trust me on this. It's kind of my job.

Ps: just for appeasement. I do think we'll reach 0.01 by mid July at the very latest, barring any technical fuckups.


All I see in your post is...

"ooo, I want some coins but I don't afford them at this price...I'm a cheap greedy ass...please do something...please get down that buy wall..."

GTFO ALREADY!
789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 12:59:24 PM
Anyone who mentions Loljosh.

Yes because that question has been answared, he's not part of the team. Also most of these comments are here to spread trouble just by the way they are worded.

I think that is exactly the sort of reply NewWorldCoiner is talking about - We know he never was and is not part of the official team, that is not the concern or the question. People want to know the deal is between he and yourself - not what he ISN'T, rather what he IS and what he has done that warranted the payment.

Even worse than uncertainty in a market is having points of concern actively avoided. It is not acceptable to simply call those who ask these questions 'troublemakers'. If certain questions are 'not allowed' to be asked then the market will respond accordingly and it wont be pretty.

Clear the air and let us move on - but a simple "that's already been answered" won't fly.

Many of my questions which were serious have been deleted. Its done nothing but hurt the coin.

I would suggest you get the dev to have a read of the unmoderated thread for XC (and hopefully he can have a serious technical discussion rather than throw buzz words around) - the discussion going on there is 100x more beneficial to this coin then all the stupid "I LOVE YOU DEV" crap in here.

Dig your head in the sand and put your shields up around the dev and pay for it later.



I have read that thread and it isn't exactly technical discussion , it's mostly "XC IS A SCAM".  Also, not a lot has been deleted lately. Actually graphics and images explaining the technical details were provided here multiple times. Again, please do you research and read this thread before you say it's just "I LOVE YOU DEV". The last few 20+ pages, really don't look like that.




As the head of this coin ATCSecure must be the face of all questions and be able to provide FULL TRANSPARENCY to the community before it can be adopted. If that means answering the questions 5x over or coming out and saying "Yes I paid loljosh to do the foundation code for the PoS" then so be it. At least the air is cleared and you can carry on. If not he can choose to hide away in this safe comfort zone which is heavily moderated and throw vague 1 line buzz word filled answers hoping that will put a smile on everyones face. You will keep your closed knit community and go down holding each others hands.

DRK went through the exact same thing but 10x worse with people like Anonymint ripping the architecture and anonymity components to pieces. And thats why DRK has the most solid solution of any coin so far. Every question can be confidently answered - We all had months worth of discussions of chopping and changing parts of the solution - why do you think its over 1600 pages long.

The invitation is there to break down the walls and let the dev come clean with all the questions which have blatantly been shoved under the rug - its your choice.



Whenever repeated questions are deleted users get a link to the answer.

OK great - can you please provide me an answer to the following. If it has been answered in the past, provide me with a link. And I DONT mean a 1 line vague ambiguous statement:

ATCSecure needs to come clean with the exact details of what he paid loljosh for, is the PoS codebase of this coin entirely created by loljosh?Huh - if not provide details on what the payment was for. Remember this is for transparency and to clear the air once and for all.

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F95HUn51.png&t=540&c=Baq9mXQnh6EYXw

Dude, you are fixated on the same thing over and over again, because you don't have something else to create FUD.
Just GTFO already...
Anybody is tired already of this thing with loljosh...we don't care.
Loljosh had something to offer, the dev needed that something, bought it, and left a feedback. Wtf is your business there?

Ppl like you will always end up crying in the end, seeing how they wasted their lives for nothing...

if you don't like a coin, don't buy it and move on... its that easy...

But you leak frustration, and everybody knows why, you did not had the chance to have some cheap coins, and you're crying like a bi.... now...

Move on dude, go and take care of your dark coins.
790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 11:52:27 AM
Announcement!

As promised, the encrypted messaging update will be released within ten to fourteen days. Included in this release is a one of a kind robust encrypted messaging system that is a first in crypto-currency. This system is a framework or protocol within the wallet that allows applications to be built upon it as needed by users. The release will have applications already built upon this framework, these applications will position CINNI as the leading crypto-currency in point of sale systems for both eCommerce and brick and mortar stores. (screen shots of the updated GUI will be available this week)

Included in this release are essential tools to conduct secure encrypted point of sale commerce and are all a first in crypto currency:

1) Encrypted messaging system in client with wallet to wallet messaging platform.
2) Encrypted order form sent wallet to wallet.
3) Encrypted invoice generation sent wallet to wallet.
4) Encrypted receipt delivery sent wallet to wallet.

Future release...est 3-6 weeks.
 
1) Combined wallet for both BTC and CINNI with multiple currency exchange rate support. (this will be the first ever in crypto-currency and will assist point of sale)
2) In wallet chat room.

Future release...est 4-14 weeks. (With this release we will become the best option in crypto-currency as a point of sale solution)

1) A second wallet designed as a "retail wallet" in addition to the "consumer wallet". This wallet is designed specifically for retail eCommerce businesses and is built on the encrypted messaging platform. (this will be the first "retail wallet" ever in crypto-currency and will lead to rapid merchant adoption of CINNI as a form of payment.)
2) Inventory management system for tracking supply in wallet client.
3) SKU number assignment with SKU pricing in wallet client.
4) Full receivables and reporting features in wallet client.
5) QR code generation in wallet client.
6) Export option into accounting software (i.e. Quickbooks, ect.)

Future release...est 12-18 weeks. (This will be an update on the routing of encrypted messages)

1) Optional anonymity features for "consumer wallet". This would allow for anonymity or (dark) send features similar to DRK coin or XC coin system.
2) Optional anonymization of data and messages. This system will use "messagenodes" combined with "masternodes" in the dark send feature. The "messagenodes" and "masternodes" will be paid in transaction fees and will be required to provide "proof of stake" by holding CINNI in wallets developing coin age (more details will follow).

Darkcoin and XC coin only anonymize half of the transaction (the actual transfer of payment). The communication between buyer and seller is left wide open and can be intercepted by a third party. There are ways to mitigate the communication risk however the communication risk to anonymity remains more significant than the payment risk to anonymity. The system being developed at CINNI will use the encrypted messaging system to allow CINNI to become the first ever completely anonymous transaction system.



Cinni dev is claiming both xc and drk are not truly anonymous.  Could ATCSecure please address these points next time he is here.  I am sure he has a retort/solution.

It looks like there will be a race on to implement point of sale features.
i'm fairly sure we are getting the encrypted messaging system as well, bit of a stab in the back though to say we are not truly annon when he seamed so nice and helpful..


Yes, and we will trust a dev that says "that product is not good, my product is better..."
791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 11:39:38 AM
Announcement!

As promised, the encrypted messaging update will be released within ten to fourteen days. Included in this release is a one of a kind robust encrypted messaging system that is a first in crypto-currency. This system is a framework or protocol within the wallet that allows applications to be built upon it as needed by users. The release will have applications already built upon this framework, these applications will position CINNI as the leading crypto-currency in point of sale systems for both eCommerce and brick and mortar stores. (screen shots of the updated GUI will be available this week)

Included in this release are essential tools to conduct secure encrypted point of sale commerce and are all a first in crypto currency:

1) Encrypted messaging system in client with wallet to wallet messaging platform.
2) Encrypted order form sent wallet to wallet.
3) Encrypted invoice generation sent wallet to wallet.
4) Encrypted receipt delivery sent wallet to wallet.

Future release...est 3-6 weeks.
 
1) Combined wallet for both BTC and CINNI with multiple currency exchange rate support. (this will be the first ever in crypto-currency and will assist point of sale)
2) In wallet chat room.

Future release...est 4-14 weeks. (With this release we will become the best option in crypto-currency as a point of sale solution)

1) A second wallet designed as a "retail wallet" in addition to the "consumer wallet". This wallet is designed specifically for retail eCommerce businesses and is built on the encrypted messaging platform. (this will be the first "retail wallet" ever in crypto-currency and will lead to rapid merchant adoption of CINNI as a form of payment.)
2) Inventory management system for tracking supply in wallet client.
3) SKU number assignment with SKU pricing in wallet client.
4) Full receivables and reporting features in wallet client.
5) QR code generation in wallet client.
6) Export option into accounting software (i.e. Quickbooks, ect.)

Future release...est 12-18 weeks. (This will be an update on the routing of encrypted messages)

1) Optional anonymity features for "consumer wallet". This would allow for anonymity or (dark) send features similar to DRK coin or XC coin system.
2) Optional anonymization of data and messages. This system will use "messagenodes" combined with "masternodes" in the dark send feature. The "messagenodes" and "masternodes" will be paid in transaction fees and will be required to provide "proof of stake" by holding CINNI in wallets developing coin age (more details will follow).

Darkcoin and XC coin only anonymize half of the transaction (the actual transfer of payment). The communication between buyer and seller is left wide open and can be intercepted by a third party. There are ways to mitigate the communication risk however the communication risk to anonymity remains more significant than the payment risk to anonymity. The system being developed at CINNI will use the encrypted messaging system to allow CINNI to become the first ever completely anonymous transaction system.



Cinni dev is claiming both xc and drk are not truly anonymous.  Could ATCSecure please address these points next time he is here.  I am sure he has a retort/solution.

It looks like there will be a race on to implement point of sale features.


Cinni dev..... bahahaha

No comment
792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: June 01, 2014, 11:35:35 PM
Im in version 1.32 are we in block 23296? as I am..

for the guy above the correct wallet is in the update link in the first page

Yes
You are on the right block and wallet
793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: June 01, 2014, 11:09:21 PM
"REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem.  Using a dynamic learning trust system"

Create Xnode - steal coins.

Shutdown Xnode - Move Coins to new Xnode

steal coins.

Shutdown Xnode - Move Coins to new Xnode

Rinse, repeat.


Cant wait to get started.

Lol, good luck with your uber hax skillz /facepalm

Can someone explain if that is a potential risk?

I know it's probably FUD, but it seems somewhat "logic", anyone to explain?


Lol, there is not logic there, its just an idiotic post, from somebody who invested all hist btc's in darkcoin, and did not had any btc left to buy some xc when the price was affordable...

Can't you ppl already see very clearly through this rats living their lives in their parents basement?
794  Economy / Services / !!! on: May 29, 2014, 08:58:06 PM
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