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781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Worried about Mt Gox? What does this price fall mean for BTC and its clones? on: February 11, 2014, 03:05:15 PM
The ripple concept is a brilliant one. The part of the main arguments against it being an IOU system are weak (it's not real money!--except this is a construct that is millennia old). Its execution leaves a lot to be desired, though. There is no advantage to anyone using the ripple system vs. a more open competitor.

And, those who are going around and saying half-truths like 28 billion have been distributed without noting that 20 billion of that has been distributed to its coders is not the way to honestly market it. But you know that, and you know that the honest marketing does not sound very appealing.

You misinterpret the argument. An IOU can be determined as money. The problem with Ripple and most fiat systems is that an intermediary determines the value of the fiat apart from the value of the original asset.  Not only do buyers of Ripple have to content with the risk of bitcoin (changes in protocols by developers) but they are also subject to the whims of the Ripple creators.

Ripple creators as  a company can be  bought, sold, paid off, or controlled by governments. They create additional risk where it is not needed. They are the  good smith's who write IOUs that can potentially coming fraud against Ripple participants by changing the value of ripples independent of the value of bitcoin.

No good has come from using derivatives in financial markets as  they always lead to financial crisis.

No. As you have displayed consistently throughout this thread. You have missed the complete point of the OP. Let me repeat the topic.

Centralized exchanges have long governed Bitcoin transactions. From the plights of Bitinstant to the regulatory, technical demise of Mt. Gox to the wipeouts of centralized wallets by hacking, we have witnessed costly screwups by centralized players. Subject to regulation and easily targeted by world governments and hackers alike, centralized exchanges have no place in the new economy. Tragically, the Bitcoin community has trashed the very savior of Bitcoin transactions from the start: Ripple. Ripple offers a means to conduct transactions instantly with little to no fees in a decentralized manner. This means no longer do we have to wait for confirmations or trust exchanges to be technically capable or safe from a regulatory standpoint - no longer do we have to rely on centralized merchanting solutions. We can bypass confirmation times and reduce fraud to zero by conducting merchanting on the Ripple protocol.



Ripple is just too complex for some. I get it, you are one of those people. There is nothing to be ashamed of. I guess the big colorful pictures on ripplscam.org help you understand their point of view. Maybe I can make a picture book about Ripple. I'll sign it and send you a free copy. It might make things more simpler for you  Smiley




You being a cocky imbecile isn't going to work. You made a thread to promote something you are invested in, and offer NO convincing counterarguments to the problems with the NETWORK, all while attacking personally everyone who disagrees.

Fuck off, you beached blob of blubber.  You're obviously someone stupid enough to have invested in something no one wants.

YOU ARE THE IMBECILE.

Enjoy further discrediting Ripple with your tactics.
782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Chicoin CHI - SHA256 based Coin of Energy Force | Update to v0.9.2 on: February 11, 2014, 10:10:30 AM
Is this different than the scrypt coin of the same name and tagline?

...because that one didn't go anywhere...
was scrypt and later change to SHA256 and pool mining on http://chi.ispace.co.uk/


So do my 1500 CHIcoins from before still count?


Yes Smiley



Nice!

Cheesy
783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Chicoin CHI - SHA256 based Coin of Energy Force | Update to v0.9.2 on: February 11, 2014, 09:51:37 AM
Is this different than the scrypt coin of the same name and tagline?

...because that one didn't go anywhere...
was scrypt and later change to SHA256 and pool mining on http://chi.ispace.co.uk/


So do my 1500 CHIcoins from before still count?
784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♦♣LOTTOCOIN♠♥ THE NEW LOTTOCOIN THREAD!! The hottest gaming currency!! LOT on: February 11, 2014, 09:16:22 AM
Hi, I was hoping to be live on the poker before now, but we found a couple more problems might take us a couple of days more try and fix it



...just faking it 'til the halving, are we?

785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Worried about Mt Gox? What does this price fall mean for BTC and its clones? on: February 11, 2014, 09:13:05 AM
Citation needed.  I have proof of ripple's centralized control as it is part of the architecture.  It was designed that way.  All you have is speculation and conjecture.  Keep spreading FUD because that is all you have.

This is a much sadder situation than first thought. Not only are you oblivious to basic facts about Bitcoin, you dismiss any criticism. Did you even learn what you were investing into? From THREE basic Google searches, I found articles that back up EVERY point. Because they are all well-known facts and I am well educated in Bitcoin politics.

Winkle Twins 1% http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-winklevoss-twins-bitcoins-2013-4

The US Government's HUGE stake in Bitcoin http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/fbi_wallet/

Bitcoin price manipulation http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-bitcoin-1-manipulate-the-currency-deceive-its-user-community-and-make-its-future-uncertain/2013/06/30


Now where are your citations? Because from my knowledge, you can run your own Rippled. So actually YOU are the one looking to spread FUD.

Winlkevoss twins owning 1% of bitcoins.  Yes it is a choice they made to buy those coins.  I am fully aware they own that many.  If they want to buy 100% of the coins that is fine too, I expect that will be very costly.  Its a matter of free market demand.  They don't control the bitcoin network any more than the other 99% of owners control the network. If the 99% sell of bitcoin to 0 then the Winklevosses lose.  They took a risk.  But having 1% of anything is not control.  Tell me where you can own 1% of something communal and have control over the 100%.  Lol

The FBI owns 144,000 coins.  This is even sadder than your winklevoss argument because their bitcoin stake amounts to 1.2% of total bitcoins and their "ownership" is only as an asset in a criminal investigation that will be auctioned off to the public when the investigation is complete.  So they did not purposefully take the coins to "control" the network.  What the buyer does with the coins is up to them.  Free markets dictates that.

Bitcoin price manipulation.  That entire article is conjecture.  There is not fact behind it.  The bitcoin market is controlled by market dynamics.  Bitcoin ownership by account.



Compare that to the United States wealth distribution


Now compare how much control the creatores fo ripple have over XRP.  Oh yeah...


"Ripple is a scam! Ripple is a get rich quick scheme for it's creators, a private for-profit company. It is NOT open source. It is CENTRALIZED, akin to PayPal rather than Bitcoin. For more info, visit RippleScam.org."


Nice. I'm glad people don't put up with shit from this shameless plug.

GO BACK TO YOUR CAVE, no one wants to get saddled with your crap centralized currency!

'TheWhale' - more like 'TheShill'!
786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: !<~~~~~[ANN]~~[EXCHANGED] BatCoin [EXCHANGED]~~[ANN]~~~~~>! on: February 10, 2014, 07:18:27 PM
how many posts per page?
I want to be the first one on page 100  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Me too!

Me Too!!!


...any time now...

BATCOIN!
787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: !<~~~~~[ANN]~~[EXCHANGED] BatCoin [EXCHANGED]~~[ANN]~~~~~>! on: February 10, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
how many posts per page?
I want to be the first one on page 100  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Me too!
788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SCRYPT] Klondike Coin, Join the Goldrush! ★Kimotos Gravity★ [Coinedup!] on: February 10, 2014, 06:21:05 PM
Anyone else noticing how people defend their favorite cryptocurrency like many defend their religion? People always have an agenda, remember that...


Was just thinking about that as I read.

I dabble in about a dozen coins, mostly focused in Prospercoin now.

*plug*

Had some poorly utilized time with the hacks over at lottocoin, and sold all my week one Doge well too early.

Learned not to be overzealous. (sitting on a lot of devalued RPC right now!)

If you can't consider the idea that a coin you love may have problems, you will soon have problems.

This is a tricky game, alertness and adjustment skills are rewarded.

Hope things work out here, folks.

...definitely gotta do something about production volume, though - it IS pretty obvious.
789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: !<~~~~~[ANN]~~[EXCHANGED] BatCoin [EXCHANGED]~~[ANN]~~~~~>! on: February 10, 2014, 06:13:42 PM
Ok 100pages...over 1month online and running.
Yep I see this skyrocketing soon
What does page count have to do with success?  Huh
Do I really have to explain?
Battlecoin went to cryptsy when they had 4 pages
Bat has 99 with no sign of a major exchange


Either way, more pages gives any exchange that takes a quick look a hint that the community is larger, and thus their profit could be larger when/if they add the coin.

Glad we're almost to triple digits.

People have to be patient with Batcoin, it just needs to keep diversifying.

The slowdown from the forks set us back, but with more time is certainly surmountable...

790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VTC] Vertcoin - Adaptive N-factor in Scrypt - No more ASICs on: February 09, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
I'm pretty sure mining for Vertcoin just ruined my TRI-X 290X.

What happened? Im just about to buy those.

Decided to try and mine Vertcoin, within 3 minutes of using the settings on page 1 my rig crashed. Now it locks up and crashes indefinitely when trying to mine any altcoin. I had zero problems using cgminer to mine other coins for three weeks straight.

Also, just tried to play a game (BF3) to test it, and the whole rig crashes immediately.

Sounds like it might have heated to the point of warping components or messing up the thermal grease.

NOT a good sign - someone's gotta fix the miner.
791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Prospercoin -Launched-Exchange Poloniex.com-Gravity Well NO PREMINE on: February 09, 2014, 09:19:59 PM
This Kimoto Well feature is really cool to watch, seeing the difficulty adjust every block on the hash spikes is conforting, no one will exploit Prosper network.
thats one reason i'm mining this coin.... I saw the same thing happening with cashcoin... and i loved it... its like multipool resistent or something... if they hop on... the fun only takes a few minutes before they leave again...  Cool


I too am loving it. Feels like loyalty is being rewarded...

Looking forward to Prosper Day...
792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Chicoin CHI - SHA256 based Coin of Energy Force | Update to v0.9.2 on: February 09, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
Is this different than the scrypt coin of the same name and tagline?

...because that one didn't go anywhere...
793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Prospercoin -Launched-Exchange Poloniex.com-Gravity Well NO PREMINE on: February 09, 2014, 05:09:31 PM
Now THAT was quite the difficulty jump!  2.42 to 3.93!
794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.5 Released! on: February 09, 2014, 04:02:26 PM


Or dump!
795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.5 Released! on: February 09, 2014, 03:03:39 PM
wow such wall 0.00000180   100137583.66419142   180.24765060

EDIT: and it's gone again...
EDIT2: now its on 176 for a few seconds and gone again. very funny. bad wall  Grin

So pointlessly large, too...
796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [2014 FLAGSHIP ALT] *EarthCoin* EAC +1 Community, +1 Exec Team, +1 Best Talent on: February 09, 2014, 03:02:11 PM

Don't mean to be a pain, but wouldn't we want to AVOID asking about pumps on the main thread, since it isn't supposed to be a pump and dump coin?

797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Prospercoin -Launched-Exchange Poloniex.com-Gravity Well NO PREMINE on: February 09, 2014, 02:59:45 PM
Before I was eager for more hashpower on the network. Now I am sad, because I can't mine a thousand coins a day anymore...

Smiley
798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♦♣LOTTOCOIN♠♥ THE NEW LOTTOCOIN THREAD!! The hottest gaming currency!! LOT on: February 09, 2014, 03:59:12 AM
Why is this thread self-moderated? I really enjoyed the previous one.

Cause mrlotto chose the side of a scamming casino owner who threatened to close down his casino and change it over to btc if he didnt make a new moderated thread to shut us up.

This is why I enjoyed the previous one.

If you delete this conversation I will make a separate thread with quotes from this one. If you delete my post I will receive PM about what is deleted.

Thank you for your time.

Good work.

Glad to see a community forming around calling these assholes out...
799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♦♣LOTTOCOIN♠♥ THE NEW LOTTOCOIN THREAD!! The hottest gaming currency!! LOT on: February 09, 2014, 03:24:27 AM
Hahahaha. Mrlotto deletes my post when I try to enlighten the investors about his case.

I'll post it again. There is no valid reason for removal unless the OP wants to fake his personality...

Hampuz (the #2 founder) QUIT LOTTOCOIN because mrlotto was 'too greedy' and 'didn't care about the failure of his coin, as long as he got the goods'. That's what he told me on the MCXNow chatroom.


Once Hampuz stopped talking, I sold mine, actually.

This is a transparent forum. Go look at my other posts.

...instead of making suppositions about them.

Fools.
800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Prospercoin -Launched-Exchange Poloniex.com-Gravity Well NO PREMINE on: February 09, 2014, 02:09:28 AM
hashrate will sky high on the Prosper day

No doubt!

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