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781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: History of Cryptocurrency on: September 09, 2023, 07:09:46 PM
The first transection is took place on 10 May 2010

You spend your energy on this information, gather it, and then post it here but the information you post here is wrong not all the information but some points. Many members mention that information in their replies but one I noticed is not only one I mentioned to you that the first transaction took place on 10 May 2010, but it is also wrong the right one is January 12, 2009. I don't know whether you gathered this information, Is that website authentic or not? Please do some good research on it again and then correct it, Spreading wrong information is not good for your account so do it hurry.
782  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which is more profiting self trade or AI on: September 09, 2023, 06:46:35 PM
Lately, there has been some development here in the integration of AI in trading on some stock assets and cryptocurrencies, and to a large instead, AI has ground in acting and executing trades and recording profits, but it has not been for long so as we can't tell what the success rate will be, but for the fact that the reality on the ground has shown and proven their existence in trading stock, so as that which one will you prefer if AI is proven to be effective.
Will you prefer to trade with AI or you prefer to do the trading yourself?

To trade yourself or to trade with AI is your personal decision and there is nothing right or wrong but however we can guide you to what you use for better results.

If AI is productive by proving and giving you more profits than trading yourself then I suggest not stopping using it. AI can process a large number of data and has the ability to identify the patterns that you cannot but AI is not believable its not perfect and still makes mistakes and important thing is that it has the risk of hacking or manipulated.

So according to me Do yourself that at least have no risk of manipulation or hacking.
783  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: September 09, 2023, 04:59:52 PM

bhai jo bath ghalat ho tho usko ghalt he kehna chaiye aur jab apko mukammal pata ho k aage shakhs se ap close ho aur uski be ezzati b nahe hoge. Bitcointalk ma sab anonymous hai especially Umeridrees k wo tho Shahzadafzal afzal sir ka dinner b accept karne ko tayar nahe k privacy ko khatra hai.


Sir zarori nahe ke har bar aap he tek ho kabi kabar dusra be tek hota ha per hum os ko ghalat samj layte hain jaise ke ap ne kaha ke ap ko meri positivity ke bare ma pata ha ke ma ne honda bahi ko kaisa reply de, Tu sir os ke bare ma aap ne shaid mera koi msg nahe phara jes trah unho ne post keia ta ma ne serf un ko samjaia ke ye alfaz tek nahe ha community ma q ke hum yahn sub ek family ki tarah ha aur ayse alfaz ka chunao tek nahe , pir unho ne reply deia os aur baqi jo huwa wo ap ke samne ha.

Tu ma kehraha hun ke ap ne mere baqi reply ko daik ke judge kar leya per ap ne ye nahe daika ke ma ne aysaa raweya kes waaja se raka aur na ap ne mera wo pehla wala post phara.

Baqi ap bare ha Umer sahab ap se be bare ha ma ap dono ki ezat karta hun na serf ap ke balke ma baqi logo ka be buhat ezat karta hu khuwa wo senior ha ya junior, Aur ap ke sath ma aur gambling wale bat per discussion nahe karunga q ke aap log pir serious ho jate ha tu es waja se ma os ke bare ma koi reply nahe karunga . omeed karta hun ke ap ko meri bate buri nahe lage honge.
784  Economy / Economics / Re: What has really been behind china's economy on: September 09, 2023, 04:45:37 PM
Sometimes as a rational thinker,  I've tried to wrap my head around how China has been able to sustain their economy with an estimated GDP growth of 3.00 percent and per CAPITAL  GDP of 18187.98 USD, Especially owing to the fact that, they have to much people heavily dependent on her economy and population of over 1.400 billion people.

Well, you are confused about how China maintains that its growth is low but still sustains its economy. there are many factors behind it. let's talk about some factors, The govt makes an investment in education, infrastructure, and health which helps to increase to improve productivity, They have a strong manufacturing sector which increases the opportunity for jobs and a high number of labourers.

The population of China is very large instead of making it difficult for them they take benefit of it as it provides large domestic markets. The Chinese government has brought numerous reforms in recent years which attracted the foreigners to invest there. And due to the strong manufacturing sector, their export ratio is high.

In my view, These are some other factors from the above that stabilize their economy, After the covid 19 the economy of the whole world was disturbed but China has covered it faster than others.  
785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DCA'ing isnt a bad strategy on: September 09, 2023, 03:26:19 PM
What is your opinion?
And and which method do you prefer to be used in this present market conditions?
According to the current market conditions which are volatile and uncertain you can't predict it or hard to it. The dollar cost strategy is good which reduces the risk involved in cryptocurrency by investing a small amount of money. Investing a small amount will protect you from affected short-term price fluctuation but using the DCA strategy you will not make more wealth but a small one. This strategy in my view is best for those who are new in the world of cryptocurrency because it can reduce the risk of losing their money as they are less knowledgeable and have zero experience but if you are a professional, skilled, and experienced one I suggest you to use Lum Sum. It requires a big investment and returns double its profit.
786  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto or Real estate on: September 09, 2023, 02:03:30 PM
An investor can invest his money in any platform as per his desire for investment. No other platform has the benefits of investing in Bitcoin. No one can give high returns like investing in Bitcoin. Moreover, an investor can get the expected returns by investing less money than real estate business. A long-term investment plan is essential when it comes to cryptocurrencies. On the other hand a real estate business  also needs long term investment. Overall real estate business requires both time and money and an investor has to solve various problems. Comparatively I think investing in Bitcoin is a much easier and less risky investment platform than real estate business. So i prefer Bitcoin investment as crypto currency.
Well said bro, A person who has less amount can invest it in Bitcoin as Bitcoin gives a good profit in return with respect to the real estate business, But I am reminded that investing in Bitcoin is highly risky and it requires technical information like what is the best time to invest, or reading the chart etc. But in real estate risk is very low and it's a simple and easy business compared to investing in bitcoin.

A person who has no knowledge about real estate can give his money to another person for business and look over it but in the case of Bitcoin you can't give your money to another person due to security and privacy factors and also you have to have enough knowledge for investing.

I am not proving that you should not invest in Bitcoin or it's not beneficial for you but I want to know the risk involved in Bitcoin and for better profits you have to get more information.
787  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: September 08, 2023, 07:08:20 PM
$1.7 Billion Scam
Agian ek aur scam huwa ha aur wo be ek African company ne keia ha kes ka MTI ha . Company ne talreebn 100 countries se $1.7 billion lay kar farar ho gaue hain . Company ne logo se wada keia ta ke ap logo hamre pas incest kare bitcoin aur hum daily ap kp one percentrofits dainge per yasa kuch be nahe huwa aur ukta company bhaag gaye.
neeche lonk da raha hun wahn per ja ke aur phar sakte hain es ke uper.


Refrence
788  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: My experience as a beginner trader on: September 08, 2023, 06:56:52 PM
There are no experience mate Grin you lose  as a beginner to become a stronger trader  Smiley so for everyone out there thinking of QUITTING QUITTING is not the option here just keep learning  till you  can say "Gone are those days " Grin

For the first time everyone starts as a beginner and after some time he knows all about trading. Trading is a skill and it requires time and practice. At first, you will make mistakes and lose money, and it's normal to make mistakes for the first time but when you take lessons from your mistakes one day you will be a successful trader.
If someone follows some steps that every trader must know then I think he will some profits at the beginning.
>Start with a small fund if you lose it, it will not affect you that much
>Start from a demo account which also helps you a lot
>Before investing, I suggest you do your own research.
>Be patient and never give up on what you started.
789  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bank vs Crypto: Are they opposites? on: September 08, 2023, 06:39:36 PM
In short, the answer is no. Banks and crypto are not opposites, but they have different purposes and ways of working.

The future relationship between banks and crypto is uncertain. Both have some potential conflicts but also a potential collaboration is there. However, it is clear that both will influence each other in the future.
Yes, I agree with you that crypto uses blockchain and bank traditional finance institutions that provide services such as loans, etc. but there are some more things I want to mention.
-As you all know crypto now becoming popular so maybe the bank should adopt their business which will make a new collaboration.
-Banks may be using blockchain for more secure and transparent records.
-The bank will meet with crypto to start a new offer for customers to give them loans based on crypto assets.
790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Circulation review on: September 08, 2023, 06:12:43 PM
I checked the link , and I found out 1 M BTC  still lies with Satoshi Nakamoto let's  just bring up assumption that he's/she's dead as nobody know whereabouts', orhe/she eventually died later with the funds still on hold what will happen  1M BTC gone forever ??
The death of Satoshi Nakmoto has been a mystery no one knows if he died or not, The world does not know him nor do they see him so how they will know about his death? Let's come to the topic if Satoshi Nakamoto is dead and the private key is unknowable to someone else then this  1 M BTC will gone forever but in case if someone knows then it is possible to regain it. The total supply of BTC is capped at 21 M and if 1M is lost, there would be still 20M BTC left. However, it is important to back up your wallet on a daily basis if you lose your wallet key then with the help of this backup you can easily access your wallet.
791  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: El Salvador: bitcoin education in school curriculum on: September 08, 2023, 05:42:21 PM
What do you all think about the methodology of adoption the El Salvador government is using to shovel bitcoin knowledge to every home through school students?
Will the goal be attainable and what does this mean for your own country?

It's a great idea for EI Salvador to teach about Bitcoin in schools. It's a really appreciable innovation done by EI Salvador. This will provide more information to young ones and also the potential benefits of it and inform more people which lead to more adaptation of Bitcoin. The EI Elavador is adopting the right strategy by teaching about Bitcoin in the schools which will reach a large number of people at the right time because the young will understand it better and watching them the other schools will also adopt this trend which will make the whole country towards bitcoins.

Bitcoin is a new technology but it gaining popularity in the world and learning about it is more likely to adopt it. I think other countries should learn from the EI Slavador and use the same techniques in their country.
792  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why newbie may find it difficult to rank up in this forum on: September 08, 2023, 03:57:26 PM
Imagine an account opened for more than 2 year that still exist as a newbie..
You made some good points about why Newbie does not rank up on the forum and
You explained it nicely but I would like to add some points of mine for better understatement. The newbie needs to be helpful to others and share information that helps the others but also helps them to rank up. They need to be patient because success does not immediately come, newbies are discouraged and they leave the forum. They also need to be active and follow the rules of the forum. The more you actively post and follow the rules the more chances you to have rank up. the newbie has not to be posted in every thread but to be relevant, that match your interest and expertise. If the newbie focuses on the points you share and as well as I mentioned they definitely grow their rank.
 
793  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: September 08, 2023, 02:11:01 PM
Bhai jab b post parna ho aur uska reply dene ka man kare tho mehrbani farma kar poora post para kare aur per us k mafhoom ko jaane. us k bad ap reply karege tho to the point hoga otherwise ap ka reply dosre taraf chala jaega.
Je je zaror auenda se khyal raakengee ke ap ke leye full reply ko quote kare. Maine jes sentece ko qoute keia wo bs es leye keia ke pure reply ko quote karunga tu pir post lamba hoga

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Acha bhai bath ye hai k mai ne dil wali bath kii he nahe, q k mai ne andaz ka kaha hai aur andaz ka ghalat hone ka kaha hai ab agar neyat b sahi nahe tho per tho double ghalat hai
Bahi bat ye ha ke hum kesi ko direct ye nahe keh sakte ke ap teek ho ya ap ka ye andaz ghalat ha . Ma ap ko samjata hun
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. aur muje khushi huwe k kisi k baare ma positive sochne kii magar abe thak tho Umeridrees bhai ne wazahat nahe kii aur MashaAllah se ap ne pehle her kar dee.
Bahi ma tu hamesha se posistivity ki he bat karta hun shiad ap ne pehli bar notice keia.Aur rahe bat pehle reply karne ki tu agr ek cheez ke bare ma agr muje thora doubt ho to os ma ka reply dene ma koi haarj nahe ha aur waiise be Umershab ne de deia ha reply Grin

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Bhai apko yad hoga Honda bhai se apko start na bath huwe the aur us be apni neyat b btha de thee bath ki magar ap usko nahe man rahe the aur yaha tho neyat ki bath he koi nahe. maqsad ye hai k ese tarah positive soche, ye ache bath hai.
Sir ab ap es ke bare ma kia kahenge q ke jes cheex ke leia aap Umeridrees sahab ko ghalt keh rahe te ap ne be wahe keia .Matlab aap karo tu tek hum kare tu ghatal wow  Cool

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Thanks bhai, dekho bhai es masla ma hamara muaqaf belkul seedha saada aur mukamal wazih hai. ha agar ap k pas koi daleel ho tho daleel ki bunyad par bath ki ja sakte hai. ab ap jo hawala de rahe wo qabil qabool nahe. Jab ye masla aya tho mai ne apne ustado se jo k darul ifta jaha par fatwe lene pore district k log aathe hai us k ustad se poocha yani jo k mufti banne walo ko parata hai aur ye sab se bara madrassa hai tho unho ne ghalat kaha aur haram aur daleel unho ne eaanat alal Ism yani gunah mai madad karna hai jo k Nas se haram hai .
Es k elawa b jitne Elaqe k jayyad ullama the un se poocha tho jawab haram hee mila, online Whatsapp group mai poocha jawab same. online fatawa mai dekha tho har jaga same he tha, es waja se mai es masla par Allah k fazal se bahot sakht hoo. mai ye nahe kehta k ma nahe kar raha es liye ye sahee nahe bal k ye sahe nahe ha es liye ma nahe kar raha.

ab apki maulana se bath ki bath kare bhai tho wo ab pata nahe k ap ne sahee tarah se smjaya nahe ya signature ka os ko pata nahe , bahar hal bhai agar wo maulana ap k qareeb hai tho ma us se bath karta ho k wo daleel ma kia pesh karte hai. Mai neeche telegram de raha hoo apna, jab b apko mauqa mile tho maulana se meri bath kara de tha k ma usko smja sako ya wo muje smja sake. agar ap k pas apne koi daleel ha tho us pe b bath kar lenge.

Je bro me ne os ko samja deia ha ke ma serf os gambling signature ki serf logo laguga baqi mera kessi se koi wasta nahe na ma as ko ye kahunga ke aap es ko join karo ya oir es ma invest karo tu unho ne jawab deia ke agr ap kessi ko ye nahe kehre apne alfaz se ke ap es ko join karo tu ye ghalat nahe ha ghalat tab hoga jab ap kahen ke logo ko ke es ko join karke invest be kardo es ma. Khair mere kafi dost ha mufti aur alim , aur confirmation ke leye ma ne un se be pocha ha daikte hain wo kia kehte hain es ke bare ma.

Baqi muje ek cheez ki samaj nahe arahe (maa ap ko nahe kehra bs waise he apne mind ko clear karna chahta hun) , Molana shab ke party ka ek molana ta tu os ne kaha ta ke agr ap sharab ma machli(fish) dal do tu wo sharab halal ho jati ha . Matlab ke kaise hoti ha wo halal aysa kon sa chemical reaction hota ke wo halat ho jati ha?
Agr ap ma se kessi ko es ke bare ma elam ho tu plz share karde
794  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: September 07, 2023, 07:51:48 PM
Is Pakistan discontinuing Rs5000 currency note from Sept 30?

No i am disagree with you. Ye note khtam hone wala ha aur ma es yaqeen ke sata q kehra ha hun tu es ke pecche be waja ha . Os din Cheif sahab ki kuch khaas logo ke sath meeting huwi ti jes ma dollar ke smugling ke bare ma bat huwi ke ye market se ghaib q ho rahe hain Tu es ke uper haji sahab ne kaha ke es ko rokne ke leye hamre pas saub se zyada acha rasta ye ha ke hum es note ko band kar le ap pata nahe ke es note ko band kar ke kaise dollor ki smugking ko rok sakte hain oer khair cheif sahab ne kaha tu pir tu hoge he aur mere es yaeqeni ka be yahe raaz ha tu may be band ho jaie per fikr karne ki zaroart nahe etna jaldi nahe hoga es ma be time lage tu agr ap ke pas ha 5k wale notes jo ke yaqeenn honge tu os ko simply bank ma change karwale Grin Grin Grin
795  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading bots... do they work? on: September 07, 2023, 07:43:08 PM
Looking to get some real-world feedback on trading bots, the pros, the cons and the most important question... do they work?

So please, only comment below if you're actively using trading bots and how successful they are.

Well, I am not an active user of trading bots but I did some research on it. Basically, trading bots are used for the purpose that a person can't look at the screen every time and look at the balance, and for that, he uses trading bots for it. Here are some pros and cons of trading bots is below.

Pros.
Trading bots can automate the trading process which can save time and reduce human errors.
It can speed up the trades which will be beneficial in the volatile market.
Trading bots analyze the market and according to it push the trades that make more profits than humans.
The boys are available for 24 hours which is also profitable.

Cons.
The bots are complex and without any technical information, you can't set it up.
Bots are more risky than humans.
Bots depend on correct market data if a small change occurs then it may not work properly.
The bots are making more mistakes which can lead to loss of your money.

Trading bots are a good tool but if you are using it then be aware of its risk and also DYOR for finding the best bots that have a good track record, because it is very risky to use it.
796  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: September 07, 2023, 07:03:52 PM
Umeed hai umer bhai apko meri bath smj aaa gae hogee.


Ap ki bat tek ha per ye pata nahe ha ke jo ap ne kaha Umeridrees sahab ka wahe matlab ho mean ke dilo ka haal Allah behtar janta ha.
Kuch dino pehla aap log es behas ma phare huwe te ke Gambling signature se weekly paise laina tek nahe ha aap Umer shab ke opposite te per os ke bare ma ma ne ek ayse molana se pocha jo ke quran ko be phra ha janta be ha aur mandrassa be chalata city ma aur es digital world se be waqif ha mean trading waghira se, Tu os se jab ma ne pocha tu baqole os ke gambling ka paisa haram nahe ha es shart per jab ap kesii ko ye na kaho ke awo es ko join karo waghira wagjira balke agr ap serf os ka logo lagte ho aur wo aap ko payment os ka daita ho tu wo haram nahe ha.

Ma ne os time es ke bare ma kuch nahe q ke os time ma sure nahe ta kesi be traf per ab jab os ne keh deya ha tu mera Vote Umeridrees shab ki traf ha
797  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN-M.Rank] SINBAD.IO [Mix Your BTC Quickly] Signature Campaign | Up-to $200/w on: September 07, 2023, 05:33:05 PM
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798  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto or Real estate on: September 07, 2023, 03:16:11 PM
Which one do you prefer?

I don't know why you guys don't look at other threads or maybe you are copying the thread idea because the same thread was made by a hero member in the economics sections. He did the same as you as you did. And I don't think that this topic is suitable for this section, As it is an economic question so it will be better if you did it in the economy section. I am giving the link of that topic and I want you to take a look at it and then you will know that this topic is in the wrong place. Please bring some good quality posts here and make sure that the topic you are sharing here will not be posted anywhere. Hope you will not mind my words.
799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: September 07, 2023, 12:43:46 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.


There may be a few reasons that they may not use their own strategy on their self.
>They may be not that confident they claim to put their own money at risk and apply their own strategy because they are afraid of losing their own money.
>They may want to sell their own strategy to others to make more money and for that, they guarantee that they will work and will win at the gambling.
>The third one is that they scam people that their strategy will win them and in reality, they just focus on the money that they take from them and have zero experience of gambling.
It is important to use your own strategy be for the first time you will lose but you will gain more and maybe for the second time you will succeed
800  Economy / Economics / Re: To afford personal education or a property? Where to allocate funds? on: September 07, 2023, 11:35:29 AM
Let's suppose you have a limited budget which can be used only for one of the alternatives below:

What is the best investment, in your opinion? To use this money to pay for your education, so you can conclude a superior course and achieve a higher degree, have access to a wide jobs market, or use that money to acquire an apartment, house, or piece of land, so you can make a passive income from this?

It brings the following question up: What is more valued in life: to be or to have? Does it make someone fulfilled to have while not being or being without having anything?

It depends on the land where you are living. If you are in a place where education is high potential and after graduation, you can easily find a job that gives you a healthy package then go towards education in case there is no job available then start your own real estate business which will make you richer easily. However, it also depends on your favorites which you set as a goal, your needs, and your family circle also. If you look at the world the person who is richer is uneducated while the people who have an education will be always in the middle.
So if you want to become rich then invest in the real estate business which will give you a higher profit in return than education and yeah your life will be gone easily with less fear and issues. And if you want to gain information and spread it to others then the route is clear for you.
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